Thread: Time to get on the TRUMP train

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
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    there is exactly zero fucking chance the democrats would tell fucking turkey 'yeah go ahead and invade northern syria so you can exterminate these thousands of people who just fought isis for us'.

    yall need to stop with the AM radio takes respectfully.

    Of course not. Point being if Trump said we going into middle eastern country X with 15K incremental new troops the right would be all for it and the left would be against it. If one party was going to lead the way on getting all our troops home it would be the Democrats.

    to be clear, i think getting troops out of syria is fab. i really, really do. but what you me and everyone but a certain sundowning learning disabled reality tv star understand is that what is most important is to never withdraw from a country you invaded without there being some sort of an accord.

    turkey announced just now that its invasion is going to start in the morning. that invasion is happening because trump wanted to get off the phone with erdogan so he agreed to just gather up his troops and leave.

    this isnt political grandstanding or democrat pearl clutching, thousands of our allies are probably about to die, their families are about to die, and the remains are absolutely 100% going to dedicate their lives to fucking us all to pieces.

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    Hey sona chub, your Trump on speed take is a bit wild
    considering his gut but what would you know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
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    When Trump got elected everyone was freaking out criticizing him saying John Bolton controlled his foreign policy and he was going to escalate US military presence in the Middle East. Then he fires Bolton and starts withdrawing military from the Middle East and now he is being criticized for this.

    Whatever Trump's innumerable failings are, seems like Trump critics are talking out of both sides of their mouth on this one.



    Republicans are freaking out because they are the party of war. Democrats are freaking out because it’s a chance to bash Trump even though it’s something they would argue for, at least theoretically.
    nah, literally everyone is freaking out cause our allies who fought ISIS for us are going to get slaughtered by our abandonment. i don't see how that could be a problem for us in the future though. so you're right guys, nothing to see here.

    no wait, responsible countries don't behave this way.

    but yet again, we're demonstrating to the world -- as part of our daily and constant humiliation -- that our citizens are so low-functioning that they are capable of knowingly electing an honest-to-god retard to the role of commander in chief. this is doing serious and permanent damage to our reputation and trustworthiness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    in fairness, the national polls were actually fairly accurate in 2016. clinton was viewed as about 3 percentage points ahead of trump and that's about how it played out. the state polls were slightly less accurate, but actually not less accurate than historical averages.

    decent article on the subject here

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...are-all-right/
    Instead of this dumb article twisting numbers to try and make themselves seem more right than they really were, they should be pushing that they were one of the few outlets claiming before the election that Trump had a realistic chance to upset.
    um, they're not twisting any numbers. they are giving you facts as to why the universal condemnation of polling in 2016 may be a bit overblown. that was the whole point of the article. like you said, they gave trump a chance to win.

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    any chance lindsey graham is having second thoughts on being trump's lap dog in a bid to stay relevant?

    from graham:

    "This is worse than when Obama left Iraq, because you’ve got so much information as to what happens. This would be a game changer to our national security. This would pave the way to the re-emergence of ISIS.”

    “If I hear the president say one more time, ‘I made a campaign promise to get out of Syria,’ I’m going to throw up.”

    “He took an oath of office to protect the nation against all enemies, foreign and domestic. There’s no bigger enemy to our nation than ISIS. And there’s no way we can protect the country from radical Islam without partners like the Kurds.”

    "His duty as commander-in-chief, I believe, compels him to act honorably by the Kurds, and it is impossible for Turkey to go into Syria and not create a devastating ripple effect, no matter what the president says to [Turkish President Recep Tayyip] Erdogan.”

    “Nobody besides Trump believes the president’s claim that the U.S. is not abandoning the Kurds.”

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    and... BREAKING: Turkey Launches Attack on Kurds in Northern Syria

    https://www.mediaite.com/news/breaki...orthern-syria/


    remember when trump promised to "totally destroy and obliterate the Economy of Turkey” "if they did anything that I, in my great and unmatched wisdom, consider to be off-limits"?


    let's see what happens guys


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    and... BREAKING: Turkey Launches Attack on Kurds in Northern Syria

    https://www.mediaite.com/news/breaki...orthern-syria/


    remember when trump promised to "totally destroy and obliterate the Economy of Turkey” "if they did anything that I, in my great and unmatched wisdom, consider to be off-limits"?


    let's see what happens guys

    Graham starting to make a play at running in 2020?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post
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    and... BREAKING: Turkey Launches Attack on Kurds in Northern Syria

    https://www.mediaite.com/news/breaki...orthern-syria/


    remember when trump promised to "totally destroy and obliterate the Economy of Turkey” "if they did anything that I, in my great and unmatched wisdom, consider to be off-limits"?


    let's see what happens guys

    Graham starting to make a play at running in 2020?
    no, he's just suddenly realized that his rejecting everything he used to stand for to bend over for trump accomplished him absolutely nothing and he's super-embarrassed about it.

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    i admire and respect mark ames, have admired his work for years, and generally find his perspective thought provoking but UUUUGGGGGGHHHHHHH
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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    and... BREAKING: Turkey Launches Attack on Kurds in Northern Syria

    https://www.mediaite.com/news/breaki...orthern-syria/


    remember when trump promised to "totally destroy and obliterate the Economy of Turkey” "if they did anything that I, in my great and unmatched wisdom, consider to be off-limits"?


    let's see what happens guys

    When did Trump ever say that attacking the Kurds was “off-limits”?
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    something to consider; that whole 'the military has a cult of trump in it' vibe just got ethered.

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    "We are just watching the second largest Army in NATO attack one of our best counter-terrorism partners"


    totally normal.
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    I just don’t get why Trump is ok with Turkey doing this, and getting his own party riled at him, at a time when he needs his own party so badly with the impeachment stuff. Bizarre politically and I can’t think of a rational reason for this other than Putin likes it. But I don’t want to be accused of Muh Russia. I’m curious to hear any other explanations from Trump loyalists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    "We are just watching the second largest Army in NATO attack one of our best counter-terrorism partners"


    totally normal.
    Israel considers the Kurds to be great allies. They should open their borders to all Kurds. It’s really the only humanitarian thing to do.

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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    I just don’t get why Trump is ok with Turkey doing this, and getting his own party riled at him, at a time when he needs his own party so badly with the impeachment stuff. Bizarre politically and I can’t think of a rational reason for this other than Putin likes it. But I don’t want to be accused of Muh Russia. I’m curious to hear any other explanations from Trump loyalists.
    He's a shameless, narcissistic moron.

    That's probably the extent of it.
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