Rescamming the scammer

[v12cl]

Tell him you are interested, and that your attorney will be contacting him this evening. He should expect a call from Mr. Finkelstein.

Tell him you don't sign anything without consulting your attorney, and that he can expect a call, and to be prepared to discuss it with your attorney, who is also your business adviser. Then Druff has to play him along and say he gets a hundred calls a week, and to get to the point, and sell him on the idea, because he's the one who needs money, not you, and he isn't signing anything until he knows what it involves.

This is a good approach, but we need to add one more level of separation because I don't want to be the investor. I have created an email addresses to disguise as the potential investor, who will then introduce Finkelstein.

I have cc'ed XXXX XXXXwitz on this email, who may be interested in hearing more about your idea. XXXX is based in LA, and has done some small/medium angel rounds in the past, though he is pretty busy right now.

[NaturalBornHustler]

Tell him you don't sign anything without consulting your attorney, and that he can expect a call, and to be prepared to discuss it with your attorney, who is also your business adviser. Then Druff has to play him along and say he gets a hundred calls a week, and to get to the point, and sell him on the idea, because he's the one who needs money, not you, and he isn't signing anything until he knows what it involves.

This is a good approach, but we need to add one more level of separation because I don't want to be the investor. I have created an email addresses to disguise as the potential investor, who will then introduce Finkelstein.

I have cc'ed XXXX XXXXwitz on this email, who may be interested in hearing more about your idea. XXXX is based in LA, and has done some small/medium angel rounds in the past, though he is pretty busy right now.

The very busy part is key so we can string him along for as long as possible. Good move.

[v12cl]

Just got an email back, he is stoked now. PM'ed Druff the email address and password, this one is out of my hands now.

[TheTemplar]

This is going to be fucking classic.

[NaturalBornHustler]

Just got an email back, he is stoked now. PM'ed Druff the email address and password, this one is out of my hands now.

Good work.

Druff is a trained professional, he will not disappoint.

[Dan Druff]

We will attempt to make this call tonight.

Question: Do you guys want me to be outrageous to where it will be funny but likely ruin being taken seriously for the future, or should I just be more serious and string this along?

[Avon Barksdale]

String along. Fuck this scammer's world up, or at least make him waste a lot of his time.

[tommyt]

We will attempt to make this call tonight.

Question: Do you guys want me to be outrageous to where it will be funny but likely ruin being taken seriously for the future, or should I just be more serious and string this along?

be outrageous, but dont end it fast. the longer the better

[NaturalBornHustler]

We will attempt to make this call tonight.

Question: Do you guys want me to be outrageous to where it will be funny but likely ruin being taken seriously for the future, or should I just be more serious and string this along?

String along, we need a weekly idiot guest for lolz.

Also I would tone down the voice or not use it at all, not necessary and he might not buy it.

[DRK Star]

Find a way to explain that your client is eager to invest but needs to hear more about it because he is concerned that something could go wrong.

Then, after you have expressed to him that your client would like to move forward, PROVIDED THAT THIS SCAMMER PAY A $99 fee to cover the cost of some NDA form the two of you had to discuss. Send him a bogus NDA which he wouldnt be bright enough to decipher anyway, and have him pay the $99 fee before anyone proceeds. He should pay this fee "IN GOOD FAITH" for doing business together.

Take $99 fee from your paypal account and put in piggy bank. Profit.

[DRK Star]

Also, one of your "Angel Investors" is a philanthropist named Martin Karrico, who prefers to divest his wealth (earned from his profitable dog food empire) into ventures pertaining to "Web development, enlightening the human spirit and canine sustainability".

[TheTemplar]

We will attempt to make this call tonight.

Question: Do you guys want me to be outrageous to where it will be funny but likely ruin being taken seriously for the future, or should I just be more serious and string this along?

A little bit of both. You should have a segment every week called Out the Scammer. We can def find one of these mofo's every week.

[DRK Star]

..you could also list a Mr J. Searles as an ANGLE Investor...

[limitles]

String along for sure.....remember the Sklansky-Fabersham call.....that was played to perfection

[GAMBLE-BOT]

A guy was actually arrested for doing this to oned of those Nigerian scammers. He got the guy to send him money and was later arrested for fraud or something... better to just leave it alone

link please

[BUBBLES]

String along for sure.....remember the Sklansky-Fabersham call.....that was played to perfection

"which underage girl are you reffering to?"
CLASSIC

[Sandwich]

Some funny tidbits from last night's Finkelstein call! I particularly liked the quote from the "Good Times" theme song, and the references to Hella Grapes, Tupac hologram drive-bys and the neck tattoo concern.

Some of the links in the chat during last night's radio show to the random "Shane Kellers" (registered sex offender, etc.) were hilarious. This cab driver seemed very willing to pump himself up as an animal lover, father, volunteer and all around charitable individual. Maybe Mr. Finkelstein is not done vetting this prospective investment?

Also, the relevant law in California pertaining to this guy's idea is the California Celebrity Rights Act, which, after 70 years after a person's death, allows use of the "name, voice, signature, photograph or likeness on or in products, merchandise or goods" of the person, without consent of the estate. Similar laws have been enacted by 12 other states.

For Mr. Alvin Finkelstein's review:

"WEST’S ANNOTATED CALIFORNIA CODES
CIVIL CODE
DIVISION 4. GENERAL PROVISIONS
PART 1. RELIEF
TITLE 2. COMPENSATORY RELIEF
CHAPTER 2. MEASURE OF DAMAGES
ARTICLE 3. PENAL DAMAGES

§ 3344.1. Deceased personality’s name, voice, signature, photograph, or likeness; unauthorized use; damages and profits from use; protected uses; persons entitled to exercise rights; successors in interest or licensees; registration of claim

(a)(1) Any person who uses a deceased personality’s name, voice, signature, photograph, or likeness, in any manner, on or in products, merchandise, or goods, or for purposes of advertising or selling, or soliciting purchases of, products, merchandise, goods, or services, without prior consent from the person or persons specified in subdivision (c), shall be liable for any damages sustained by the person or persons injured as a result thereof. In addition, in any action brought under this section, the person who violated the section shall be liable to the injured party or parties in an amount equal to the greater of seven hundred fifty dollars ($750) or the actual damages suffered by the injured party or parties, as a result of the unauthorized use, and any profits from the unauthorized use that are attributable to the use and are not taken into account in computing the actual damages. In establishing these profits, the injured party or parties shall be required to present proof only of the gross revenue attributable to the use and the person who violated the section is required to prove his or her deductible expenses. Punitive damages may also be awarded to the injured party or parties. The prevailing party or parties in any action under this section shall also be entitled to attorneys’ fees and costs.
(2) For purposes of this subdivision, a play, book, magazine, newspaper, musical composition, audiovisual work, radio or television program, single and original work of art , work of political or newsworthy value, or an advertisement or commercial announcement for any of these works, shall not be considered a product, article of merchandise, good, or service if it is fictional or non-fictional entertainment, or a dramatic, literary, or musical work
...
(g) No action shall be brought under this section by reason of any use of a deceased personality’s name, voice, signature, photograph, or likeness occurring after the expiration of 70 years after the death of the deceased personality.
...
(h) As used in this section, "deceased personality" means any natural person whose name, voice, signature, photograph, or likeness has commercial value at the time of his or her death, whether or not during the lifetime of that natural person the person used his or her name, voice, signature, photograph, or likeness on or in products, merchandise or goods, or for purposes of advertising or selling, or solicitation of purchase of, products, merchandise, goods, or services. A "deceased personality" shall include, without limitation, any such natural person who has died within 70 years prior to January 1, 1985.
(i) As used in this section, "photograph" means any photograph or photographic reproduction, still or moving, or any video tape or live television transmission, of any person, such that the deceased personality is readily identifiable. A deceased personality shall be deemed to be readily identifiable from a photograph when one who views the photograph with the naked eye can reasonably determine who the person depicted in the photograph is.
(j) For purposes of this section, a use of a name, voice, signature, photograph, or likeness in connection with any news, public affairs, or sports broadcast or account, or any political campaign, shall not constitute a use for which consent is required under subdivision (a).
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(o) This section shall be known and may be cited as the Astaire Celebrity Image Protection Act."

[Steve-O]

A guy was actually arrested for doing this to oned of those Nigerian scammers. He got the guy to send him money and was later arrested for fraud or something... better to just leave it alone

link please

I guesx it was a woman:http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow...175755518.html

[Sandwich]

Ok, I have a proposal -- a little game, for next week's radio show....

If you can get this taxi driver guy on radio for next week's show, I will donate $1 to the FOLLOWING week's radio show freeroll poker tournament for each of the below TERMS used by Mr. Alvin Finkelstein in conversation with this taxi driver guy.

TERMS:

anal investor

sick enterprise

dunkdown

Taco Bell Beefy Nacho Burrito

touch your privacy

dandruff

Group Bernard Tapie

shit the bed

moonshadow

dildo saleswoman from corvallis

man oh manischevitz

young smooth

prolapsed

bitcoins

50 dollar back


Note: Each of these TERMS must be spoken clearly and audibly by Mr. Finkelstein so that the taxi driver guy hears it ("what?" "oh, never mind" does not count) (max of $15).

[Jasep]

Ok, I have a proposal -- a little game, for next week's radio show....

If you can get this taxi driver guy on radio for next week's show, I will donate $1 to the FOLLOWING week's radio show freeroll poker tournament for each of the below TERMS used by Mr. Alvin Finkelstein in conversation with this taxi driver guy.

TERMS:

anal investor

sick enterprise

dunkdown

Taco Bell Beefy Nacho Burrito

touch your privacy

dandruff

Group Bernard Tapie

shit the bed

moonshadow

dildo saleswoman from corvallis

man oh manischevitz

young smooth

prolapsed

bitcoins

50 dollar back


Note: Each of these TERMS must be spoken clearly and audibly by Mr. Finkelstein so that the taxi driver guy hears it ("what?" "oh, never mind" does not count) (max of $15).

If all of these can be done in one conversation I will give a 25.00 bonus