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    Robert Pickering Needs to Learn Some Manners

    http://picosong.com/Q7Yw/

    Just going to post all the email screen shots I saved, (as well as his ridiculous voicemail) and let the masses decide on how to deal with some total tool like this in a business setting

    Before you get into it (or not) let me clarify a few things and give you a quick synopsis on how I got to be where I am today (outside of poker)

    I have a marketing and sales background...and have worked with small business owners of all kinds & trades for over 15 years.

    Never in my entire professional sales career have I ever dealt with someone like Robert Pickering in any capacity

    In my career, I've sold everything from cars, to burglar alarms door to door, yellow page ads, collected signatures for ballot initiatives, photo albums, page inserts for the L.A. Times, Morgan Stanley...spent 9 years as a merchant marine, worked as a waiter and a cabin steward on cruise ships.....been to 30 countries, met people from all races, religions.

    Despite my multitude of character flaws, and occasional emotional outbursts, I've never had to deal with a toolbag extreme like this mutt

    ok never mind all that...

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    Over the last several years, I've become fluent enough with various aspects of web development to feel confident enough to approach small business owners to build simple, clean, and easy to navigate WordPress websites, and never promise more than I can deliver, charging a reasonable rate for services including social media platform development, SEO, and support.

    If I land a client while prospecting that have demands exceeding what I can deliver....I outsource the work. But ultimately, I'm the one who is held accountable for what was promised to the customer.

    With that said, no...

    I'm not some master coder and/or programmer...but my marketing and content writing skills have evolved with a knowledge of keyword optimization to the level that far exceeds much of my industry competition

    The way I see it, I provide a full arsenal of website design and numerous effective marketing strategies that work for small business owners (in good faith), with a specific timeline for development and launch.

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    OK enough fluff....lets cut to the chase.

    A few months ago I'm cold calling skilled trade single business owners on Craigslist to hustle up a new client

    I connect with Robert Pickering from 'Reliable Marine Services' in San Diego

    we hit it off well.....I sold him for $1470.00 on our 2nd phone call.....(5) payments of $295.00

    sweet...He ships his deposit

    I'm a happy camper to have his business, and we are off the races.

    __________


    He emails back a very generic response on his prelim design questionnaire, and I get to work coming up with a nice template for his fly by night 'mobile marine repair' failsite

    _________


    It just occurred to me that most of you don't wan't to be bothered with these mundane details....but I did want to set the stage for the onslaught...

    To put this into perspective....while I was working on RMS (Reliable Marine Services)...he sent me (2) more down payments of $295.00 for some underwater basket weaving or save the spotted owl sites his wife wanted...and some other site for his illegal EPA banned export tile company he is running out of Mexico

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    Basically after 6 weeks....(after he had a site design he LOVED)....I start getting these voicemails from him stressing out that his new company email hadn't been set up yet

    yea no shit they aren't set up yet

    I asked this guy over and over and over to send me his GoDaddy password

    he refused for whatever reason, and then left me this voicemail...after refusing to pick up his phone anymore


    http://picosong.com/Q7Yw/

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    Here are all of our email conversations....

    also attaching his out of the blue hostile voicemail threatening to get me deported from Mexico etc etc

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    Basically, everything was fine....he loves the RMS site....and then bam, gets a huge bug up his ass because he doesn't have his company email set up via my server

    So I call him up to explain to him AGAIN (for the 3rd time) that he never sent me the correct password

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      FRANKRIZZO: Despite my flaws and occasional outbursts, I've never had to deal with a toolbag extreme like this mutt(I find this impossible to believe)
      
      bukowski72: Mr.Pickering responds on Page 9 / Post 170. This seems be more of a business dispute than a straight rolling.
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    Oh and it's important to note that we delivered him a kick ass website...that he LOVED

    and this fool back charged my business account for 'unauthorized' charges to the tune of roughly 900 bucks

    on top of the threats he made

    FINE

    lets do this proper

    I tried to be very tactful and resolve his issues...but no

    he has to make it personal and come after me threatening me and my livelihood

    yes I take this personally

    I was going to edit his personal information from these screen shots

    but fuck him

    by far the biggest douche I've ever had to deal with in my professional career

    for the record, I am honestly looking forward to Druff's take on this situation

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    GET HIM TYDE

    TID

    SFO

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    feel free to call this fool

    I posted his number for the community

    wonder how the EPA is going to feel about some gringo setting up shop in Mexico to illegally import a banned toxic tile product across the border

    he is lucky I don't post a screen shot of his fucking home address
    Last edited by Tyde; 12-30-2015 at 10:46 PM.

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    Wow, this guys quite a big fucking pussy.

     
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    This was the story pitched to me when Marty asked me to reset his password.

    Why he took weeks to come out with it (and instead trolled me during that time), I'll never know... but I stopped trying to figure him out years ago.

     
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      anonamoose: wasn't worth it

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    a few random comment's from my 'circle' before making this post


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    I am not clear on why he was making it so difficult for you to get the GoDaddy passwords.

    Of course there are two sides to every story.

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    here is how this went down basically

    Pickering threatens me and lashes out huge.....saying he is going to make sure I get 'deported' from Mexico among his other promises to make sure all the locals know whats up

    (listen to the voicemail again)

    http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sho...n-Some-Manners

    Then I share with China and two other trusted long time confidants.

    Pickering backcharges my card....I get pissed even more

    I share post
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    I have been on the fence whether 'put this behind me'.....or not

    I decided not

    If this man had such a huge gripe with me over his delivery timeline...or his beloved email addresses (before his actual site was launched)....I would be apologetic and eager to accommodate him as a client...even with his verbal onslaught.

    I did the best I could (with my heart racing with adrenaline) NOT to unload on him

    well, after my business account was backcharged almost 900 bucks when I went out of my way to make this joker happy, the fact he comes after my personal livelihood burns my ass
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    I think the worst part about this situation (other than my business account being back charged) is the fact that Robert Fuckering was unreachable when I was trying to just get him to reset his primary login password on GoDaddy

    http://picosong.com/Q7Yw/

    He had a terrific site that he loved all set up and ready to rock and roll.....but for some reason....refused to get me the info I needed to move his nameservers to my VPS

    I saved all the emails just to prove a point.

    I am baffled why this turned personal in such a hurry.

    Not even a week prior to all of this, he was kicking me 2 more sites to build and sent me another deposit

    then he spazzes the fuck out with that voicemail, and threatening to have me deported and how he knows people LOL

    I will say that I've been in a lot of different sales jobs in my life...and web design clients are BY FAR the biggest bitches of all

    it's not even close

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    oh and this clown is setting up shop in Tijuana building some tile product that was apparently banned by the EPA because its apparently TOXIC


    and then transporting it back to the United States for one of his cheesy ass unlicensed remodeling companies he whores out on Craigslist to unsuspecting senior citizens who already have Mesothelioma



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    That's the thing that doesn't make sense Marty.

    The guy most likely is a softcock clown.

    What do you gain from claiming to be a professional and then hoping he gets cockbombed or prank called?

    The Bronx Tale $20 quote springs to mind.

     
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    meant to green rep that btw zealanddonk

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    get his ass on radio

    maybe just maybe I don't get this warm up intro from Druff that paints me in a negative light with a multitude of disparaging remarks

    I'd love to see what Fuckering has to say to me

    whats so unreal is that his site kicked major ass and he was pumped up about it...

    then he has a meltdown a week later
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    From what I can see of the conversation being presented, the guy seems unreasonable.

    I am not clear on why he was making it so difficult for you to get the GoDaddy passwords.

    Of course there are two sides to every story, but yes, he looks crazy.

    I asked him at least 1/2 a dozen times to simply call Godaddy and ask the rep to reset his password and forward it to me

    easy fix

    after I got his email saying 'where are my emails' ?

    that was when I called him (twice)

    then hilarity ensures

    http://picosong.com/Q7Yw/

    I got this voicemail after having the audacity to call him twice in a row

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    I better tread lightly

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