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  1. #21
    https://memberplanet.com/lostinpoker

    That guy works for ACR.. he recommends you download his software if you join his team... the software tells you what to do mathematically... so ACR allows all 3rd party software.. so basically youll be playing against a really smart bot with human making the final decisions..

  2. #22
    Betcoin.ag is such a dumb and obvious scam and as they use only bitcoin and litecoin, there is even no trace to payment service providers!

    Betcoin.ag Poker Terms of Service (TOS)

    BetcoinPoker.com advises You to read all of these documents carefully as each forms part of the legally binding agreement between You and BetcoinPoker.com
    It is juridical not possible to have a legally binding agreement with a domain name! Legally binding agreements are only possible between legal entities or private persons. The "Terms of Service" does also neither state the name of the operator nor a gambling license (if any exist), nothing!


    Betcoin.ag scam governed in Hong Kong or in Curacao or nowhere?

    25.GOVERNING LAW
    These Agreements shall be governed by and interpreted in accordance with the laws of Hong Kong. You irrevocably agree to submit to the exclusive jurisdiction of the courts of Curacao in The Netherlands Antilles for the settlement of any dispute or matters arising out of or concerning these Agreements or their enforceability.
    Based on what shall the alleged agreements with the Betcoin.ag scam be governed and interpreted in accordance with the laws of Hong Kong?

    How could "These Agreements" be governed and interpreted in accordance with the laws of Hong Kong, while online gambling is not allowed in Hong Kong? Does this make sense?

    If the Betcoin.ag operation shall be governed by and interpreted in accordance with the laws of Hong Kong, why do you need to irrevocably agree to submit to the exclusive jurisdiction of the courts of Curacao in The Netherlands Antilles for the settlement of any dispute or matters arising out of or concerning these Agreements or their enforceability?

    Is the company who operates Betcoin.ag incorporated in Curacao and holds a worthless Curacao eGaming license?

    If this is the case, what is the name of the company? Why is the name of the operator not stated on their website?

    If Betcoin.ag has a valid license, why do they not state the seal on their website?
    Last edited by Game Protect; 07-23-2016 at 09:25 AM.

  3. #23
    betcoin is so rigged it isn't even funny. I challenge anybody from this site to play there. You will find out quickly how rigged it is. The site is infested with bots. What scares me is how fucked up the winning network(betcoins skin) is. I know it is never smart to play casino games online but, they are not even trying hide how rigged it is. Take a small amount of btc to a craps game. They will get you down to nothing. As soon as you have all your chips in play. 7. every time. I'm convinced druff couldn't even win there.

  4. #24
    My research and experience revealed that the betcoin.ag scam's recruitment of new players heavily rely on the presense at bitcointalk.org forum.

    They have currently an army of minimum 50 bitcointalk accounts who promote them in their signature and avatar campaign, namely:

    - 98789 - ajareselde - Barbut - BeGoods - Betwrong - bitcoinmasterlord - BitcoinPC - BTCevo - cjmoles -Denker

    - Erza - ETFbitcoin - hawkins - hopenotlate - Hugroll - forzendiablo - jack1111 - Jasad - JayJuanGee - Junko

    - Karartma1 - Kotone - lorylore - mOgliE - NetFreak199 - NorrisK - ObscureBean - OgNasty - Omegasun - PacePay

    - panjul07 - poptok1 - Roboabhishek - Sarthak - shintosai - smho_16 - Superbitzz - SyGambler - The_prodigy - thejaytiesto

    - tokeweed - tspacepilot - tyz - uki - WEBcreator - Xenophoto - Xiaoxiao - XERES

    Furthermore, there are several threads and after people have started to complain, they closed 2 and opened a new self-moderated thread for their signature and avatar campaign recruitment:

    ♠ Betcoin.ag ♠ Signature Campaign - High Pay - Monthly Payments - Bonuses ♠

    If you know other recruitment methods of the betcoin.ag scam, please let me know...
    Last edited by Game Protect; 08-12-2016 at 09:37 AM. Reason: updated participants

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by donkeykilla View Post
    betcoin is so rigged it isn't even funny. I challenge anybody from this site to play there. You will find out quickly how rigged it is. The site is infested with bots. What scares me is how fucked up the winning network(betcoins skin) is. I know it is never smart to play casino games online but, they are not even trying hide how rigged it is. Take a small amount of btc to a craps game. They will get you down to nothing. As soon as you have all your chips in play. 7. every time. I'm convinced druff couldn't even win there.
    Let me retract this statement. I have had moderate success on betcoin lately. Now they are under a ddos. FML

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by donkeykilla View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by donkeykilla View Post
    betcoin is so rigged it isn't even funny. I challenge anybody from this site to play there. You will find out quickly how rigged it is. The site is infested with bots. What scares me is how fucked up the winning network(betcoins skin) is. I know it is never smart to play casino games online but, they are not even trying hide how rigged it is. Take a small amount of btc to a craps game. They will get you down to nothing. As soon as you have all your chips in play. 7. every time. I'm convinced druff couldn't even win there.
    Let me retract this statement. I have had moderate success on betcoin lately. Now they are under a ddos. FML
    Honestly I think it's more likely they are the victims of their own stupidity than a ddoser.

    They posted this a few days ago. I'm no expert, but I've never heard of a ddos attack only affecting certain browsers.
    DDoS Attack - Please access Betcoin.ag from Firefox or Internal Page www.Betcoin.ag/user

    Traffic to the homepage of www.Betcoin.ag from Chrome and Explorer is blocked.
    Ironically, they also have been paying one of their players to trash my reputation, including obviously faked skype logs to make me look like the ddoser.
    Betcoin Support "Calling Me Out"

    https://www.betcoin.ag/twitchyseal-o...-about-betcoin <---100% Faked Skype/Twitter/Whatever Logs

    https://www.betcoin.ag/twitchyseal-b...in-proof-below <---100% Faked Skype/Twitter/Whatever Logs

    I laid out the evidence here

    Also I suspect they are telling people that I am game-protect, and a big time multi accounter. (Those are some of the accounts I made after being banned from their forum and chat for calling them out- not to "multi-account")

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by TwitchySeal View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by donkeykilla View Post

    Let me retract this statement. I have had moderate success on betcoin lately. Now they are under a ddos. FML
    Honestly I think it's more likely they are the victims of their own stupidity than a ddoser.

    They posted this a few days ago. I'm no expert, but I've never heard of a ddos attack only affecting certain browsers.
    DDoS Attack - Please access Betcoin.ag from Firefox or Internal Page www.Betcoin.ag/user

    Traffic to the homepage of www.Betcoin.ag from Chrome and Explorer is blocked.
    Ironically, they also have been paying one of their players to trash my reputation, including obviously faked skype logs to make me look like the ddoser.
    Betcoin Support "Calling Me Out"

    https://www.betcoin.ag/twitchyseal-o...-about-betcoin <---100% Faked Skype/Twitter/Whatever Logs

    https://www.betcoin.ag/twitchyseal-b...in-proof-below <---100% Faked Skype/Twitter/Whatever Logs

    I laid out the evidence here

    Also I suspect they are telling people that I am game-protect, and a big time multi accounter. (Those are some of the accounts I made after being banned from their forum and chat for calling them out- not to "multi-account")
    I think it is a issue of your horrible play. I have been a victim of this myself. Stop blaming them, and take a look at your play. I've been a victim of this myself, I thought bovada was a scam site too. I did some research and saw good players were winning(druff) I challenge you to show us your play(history).

  8. #28
    bump

    edit: wow donkeykilla - quite the change of heart?
    Last edited by TwitchySeal; 01-09-2018 at 03:57 PM.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by TwitchySeal View Post
    bump

    edit: wow donkeykilla - quite the change of heart?
    Ya, I was hammered when I posted this. You sure changed your tune on the whole issue as well. Do you really believe there is new ownership over at betcoin. Seams like you stopped pressuring them since they unbanned you. A very smart tactic that seams to be working for them. Your knowledge of the site, and individuals who were running it is what got them to say they are going to pay out the BBJ. We all know this will never happen though. If they do pay. It will be a fraction of whats owed.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by donkeykilla View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TwitchySeal View Post
    bump

    edit: wow donkeykilla - quite the change of heart?
    Ya, I was hammered when I posted this. You sure changed your tune on the whole issue as well. Do you really believe there is new ownership over at betcoin. Seams like you stopped pressuring them since they unbanned you. A very smart tactic that seams to be working for them. Your knowledge of the site, and individuals who were running it is what got them to say they are going to pay out the BBJ. We all know this will never happen though. If they do pay. It will be a fraction of whats owed.
    You should listen to the most recent radio show.

    I thought you were listening - I saw you were in the chat and all - but I'm pretty sure I answered most of your questions.

    Not sure why you (and many others) have such an issue with me.

    If I get my way, you won't get fucked.

    If I fail, you will get fucked.

    Let's say you're 100% right and I'm just wasting my time.

    Why do you give me so much shit for wasting my time trying to keep you from getting fucked?



    In other news, here's some more evidence to support DonkeyKilla's theory:

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    looks as if poker is back...
    https://www.betcoin.ag/poker-return-betcoinag



    "In our attempt to calculate and repay Bad Beat Jackpot contributions precisely to those players that contributed them it was determined that each contribution cannot be determined with 100% accuracy. Without this 100% transparency and accuracy we believe the redistribution was unacceptable.

    During this review process we consulted poker executives and players and all confirmed that the most transparent and best way was to open poker back up and lower the requirements of the bad beat jackpot until it is earned by the players. Our goal is to do the right thing and remain fully transparent therefore poker will open back up to everyone and the bad beat jackpot requirements will be lowered. As a result of this change in direction, some Staff members will be leaving the company and will be replaced. Players will have full access to ring games, table games, jackpots, tournaments and more.

    We are modifying the rules of the BBJP in order to make sure they are crystal clear and we expect a posted update to the rules by Monday, 22, January 2018 and we expect poker to resume in full the week of the 26, January 2018.

    We want to thank everyone for the great feedback and assistance in this matter. We are dedicated to making Betcoin.ag the best place in the world to play."

  12. #32
    Twitchy can we get a update. I know it's not good.

  13. #33
    All sites have cheaters and problems. Acr is the biggest problem imo and betcoin is just a tiny site with barely any action. Just don't play there and get over it. I posted elsewhere here about betcoin and think it's a good site. The casino games that are provably fair are exactly that and nothing more. I don't trust many of the company's like betsoft etc so I don't play those, the sports betting is reasonable but nothing spectacular. The poker room is pretty dead these days and wpn is a shit hole w to many cheats. The cash games on betcoin are hit or miss and when I see some good game running I'll jump in but haven't been playing very much lately. I stick to global poker where I've been winning and it's the only site where I'm comfortable playing mid to high stakes cash. When I want to gamble I love the dice at betcoin because somehow I've managed to run up chips with small deposits many times. They have always cashed out my balance within about 30 minutes sometimes 10 minutes or less. Global is fast too usually in about 1 day I have the money in my PayPal.

    If I think about all the times I've had bad experiences in casinos it's mostly the Indian ones not the online sites. betcoin has been fair to me and as far as I know haven't done anything that makes me want to stop playing. Twitchy I think you are a bit paranoid and have some vendetta w betcoin, which is fine that's your business but my experience has been totally different.

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