Top effort Les, well done.
LOL! Some of your best work Les
Jsearles seems to be taking the approach of ignoring things that he doesn't have an answer for, and instead defers with nonsense... Like that he is now willing to go with "outside arbitrators" because he can't get a fair shake around here. LOL. Yeah, ignore all the people that actually KNOW the situation, and trust someone who doesn't have a clue. Makes a lot of sense, and that's not even mentioning how much of a pain in the ass it would be to find these trustworthy outside arbitrators and agree on that, let alone get them to agree to read the thread. I am only bringing this up now because this guy is going to run around here saying I'm not willing to settle this bet because I won't agree to 3 outside arbitrators. It's not good enough for him that the entire site (including the 3 judges he originally agreed to when booking the bet) all think he lost this bet, one being the owner of this site who, without question, is considered to be one of the most ethical, moral people out there when it comes to all things gambling.
Why do you need outsiders to convince you that you lost? You said it comes down to grammar... That is just your angle shot. You always knew what this bet was about but tried to find some loophole with the wording of it. Everyone, and I mean everyone here knows this, yet you keep on trying to weasel your way out of it.
Do you disagree that Druff is considered to be one of the smartest, honest, most ethical people out there when it comes to gambling?
Do you seriously think that everyone on this site worth a damn is wrong, and that you are in the right?
BTW, good job ignoring this post as well...
http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sho...ll=1#post26836
I think you should apologize for these false accusations.
Last edited by vegas1369; 06-03-2012 at 12:26 AM.
I haven't ignored anything on this site, that much isn't even in question.
No one on this site could be considered impartial. Vegas wants to use "judges" who have already rendered a decision in his favor. That's both laughable and idiotic. Vegas originally said he would agree to these grammar police as long as they would read the thread. Someone noted that he could in fact lose and now Vegas is backing off. He doesn't want a fair resolution, he only wants a resolution that he knows is in his favor before he ever agrees. Funny, that's how this bet started; Vegas thought he had a free roll.
Druff is in fact one of the smartest, honest, most ethical people in poker. The problem is, again, that he has already rendered a decision. No one in their right mind would agree to a judge like that.
Quit saying all three of YOUR pre assigned judges agree I lost. Druff says I lost, Steve-O is in the middle, and Tony says it should be voided.
I apologize for falsely accusing you of continuously bringing my wife into this. You retracted and apologized the first and really only time you did so. My mistake.
Huh? I said "YOUR pre-assigned judges."
you want me to accept them now that they have rendered a decision and I will not do so. I did not agree to them before or after the bet.
So this thing is dead I guess. Vegas won't agree to 3 impartial judges as was the original term of the bet. I'm willing to escrow and settle, Vegas is not. Anyone smarter than us two see any other possible resolution? I'm frankly growing weary of all of this.
Would be fucking HOF if Vegas and jsearless boxed it out like micon and dirtyB. Loser either pays x amount/ or is banned. Record it and throw it up on youtube.
They both live on Vegas, right?
There are 2 points here that you missed.
#1 is that the whole "those two words" quote isn't even relevant. You made the quote about setting the terms of the bet and you clearly said 25 incorrect usages. No where did you ever say I need to find both words in the same post, you just said "25 incorrect usages". Again, this was AFTER I said "those two words", and those terms weren't even agreed to by you as I wanted to bet $1000 and asked "booked?", you came back with "25 incorrect usages" and 3 impartial judges for $250, I countered with 15 for $250 or 25 for $500 and then nominated Druff, Steve and Tony as judges... You then accepted 25 misuses for $500 and said "you have 48 hours", thus booking the bet to those terms, which included those 3 guys as judges. This is indisputable dude.
Point #2 is obviously that you accepted the judges when you booked the bet. You only started questioning that when you tried your angle shot with wording that wasn't even relevant to the actual booked bet.
Again, do the right thing for once and just pay and end this shit. It's beyond obvious that you lost and are just trying every angle to get out of it.
Last edited by vegas1369; 06-03-2012 at 06:48 PM.
16 pages?
*shaking head*
I don't even think the loser of the fight should pay the $500. It would be epic & I think the winner should be given the title of PFA Heavyweight Champ. They should also get to use an actual picture of themselves standing triumphantly over the other as their avatar & have the boxing video posted for all to see.
After a week the loser could then have the option to pay the $500 to an agreed upon charity & have the avatar & title removed forever with the agreement that it never be used again & this would end this debacle forever.
It's a dream but it's the only fair resolution to this that I could see. Plus it would be the funniest shit that could ever happen(at least for us not getting punched in the face)regardless of who won.
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No, he lives in Missouri. It would be interesting though, we are both the same height. He outweighs me by a bit, but it is pretty much all fat though. Who knows, while I doubt it, he may pack a punch, Butterbean sure could hit like a mother fucker. Let's be real though, this is no resolution as far as I'm concerned, and I am not going to wait months and months for this guy to come out here to box to settle this. I just want what is rightfully mine, which is the $500 that he owes me for this bet. If he wants to come out here and box me for shits and giggles, I'd be down, but that's a different issue.
Back to the bet...
I don't know why, but I never went back and actually read the timeline of how the bet went down until this morning. Probably would have saved a lot of time and sore eyes for those that have followed this shit, because the now infamous quote that I made about "those two words" was made before Jsearles set the terms for the bet, which he eventually accepted, rendering that quote irrelevant. Allow me to elaborate...
This is going to be long, so if you really don't give a shit about all of this don't go any further, just a fair warning.
This is the first exchange about the bet and the ONLY time I said "those two words"...
At this point Jsearles DOES NOT ACCEPT THIS BET rendering this last quote of mine completely irrelevant. This was THE ONLY TIME I say "those two words"... He then counters with this...
He didn't say "25 incorrect usages containing both words in the same post", he simply said "25 incorrect usages", which obviously meant all I had to do was find 25 misuses of the word then or than. This is what any reasonable person would take away from that, there is no "looseness" in the definition of "25 incorrect usages".
I was gone until the next day... I then made this post...
NOWHERE IN THAT ^ POST IS THE TERM "THOSE TWO WORDS" USED. I am now agreeing to his proposal of 25 INCORRECT USAGES but I want the bet to be for more money. I also nominated the three judges, which he never questioned until AFTER the bet was booked and was looking like he was going to lose.
Jsearles' next post is this...
So at this point, according to him, he was supposedly clowning on me... This is important here, the reason being is one of his arguments when he tried to angle shoot was that he felt he was tricking me into a stupid bet, meanwhile the ONLY TIME the term "those two words" was used was in an initial post with terms he didn't agree to... If he felt he was tricking me why did he not jump on the bet right away... Why would he wait all this time, and then on top of it try to get out of it by saying he was clowning on me? Doesn't make any sense at all if in fact he thought he was tricking me into a stupid bet, does it? Fuck no.
My response...
"Accept the terms of the bet that YOU proposed to begin with."
Obviously that is referring to jsearles' initial post AFTER THE "THOSE TWO WORDS" quote, which again was...
Jsearles then responds next with this... Notice again, never any mention whatsoever of two words used together, just 25-30 "misuses"...
At this point I like the 25 for $500 and say I should be able to find at least half here and the rest on DD, he says...
So in all of that, please show me one instance where Jsearles says anything about having to find both than and then in the same post. It was always about finding 25 incorrect usages, and nothing else.
It's pathetic this shit has gone all this long, this is one of the weakest angle shots in history after looking it over a bit.
Like I said Jsearles, just pay up and end this shit already. Enough of this angle shooting bullshit, you lost fair and square and everyone here, except for you knows it.
If and when Jsearles does pay me, I will pledge $200 of it to Druff for one of his radio tournaments. Maybe even Jsearles could play in it and try to win it back.
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Last edited by vegas1369; 06-04-2012 at 06:20 AM.
I've realized the exact same thing, it was only when Duddly got involved that Searle's story changed and that is because he knew he was drawing dead.
POS should pay up or shut-up, meaning ban.
you do have to be aware of fat-man strength
Last edited by limitles; 06-04-2012 at 05:50 AM.
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