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    Merge Removes Skrill Withdrawal Option

    The Merge Gaming Network has taken away the popular Skrill e-wallet as a withdrawal option, leaving some people with no cashout options right now. On Thursday, September 10, players at the various Merge Gaming Network rooms, including Carbon Poker, Sportsbook.ag, and BetUSA, received an e-mail informing them of the news if they had Skrill withdrawals pending.


    The e-mail read, in part, "We apologize for the inconvenience, but we are no longer able to provide Skrill as a Withdrawal Solution. Due to reasons out of our control, Skrill will no longer be used as a payment option to process Withdrawals. Therefore, we have canceled your pending Skrill Withdrawal and funds have been returned to your account. Please fill out the Bank wire instructions online and request a new Withdrawal via Bank wire. We will be sure to prioritize your Withdrawal once the verification process has been completed."

    Players were then told that they needed to submit identification documents to be eligible for bank wires and were given a few tournament tickets as an apology.
    http://www.pocketfives.com/articles/...option-591359/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shizzmoney View Post
    The Merge Gaming Network has taken away the popular Skrill e-wallet as a withdrawal option, leaving some people with no cashout options right now. On Thursday, September 10, players at the various Merge Gaming Network rooms, including Carbon Poker, Sportsbook.ag, and BetUSA, received an e-mail informing them of the news if they had Skrill withdrawals pending.


    The e-mail read, in part, "We apologize for the inconvenience, but we are no longer able to provide Skrill as a Withdrawal Solution. Due to reasons out of our control, Skrill will no longer be used as a payment option to process Withdrawals. Therefore, we have canceled your pending Skrill Withdrawal and funds have been returned to your account. Please fill out the Bank wire instructions online and request a new Withdrawal via Bank wire. We will be sure to prioritize your Withdrawal once the verification process has been completed."

    Players were then told that they needed to submit identification documents to be eligible for bank wires and were given a few tournament tickets as an apology.
    http://www.pocketfives.com/articles/...option-591359/
    This is a bad sign.

    This is exactly what happened to Lock Poker as they circled the drain.

    It is possible that Skrill shut them down after multiple complaints that they weren't paying out. That's exactly what happened with Lock.

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    Merge Removes Skrill Withdrawal Option

    To be fair Carbon processed and paid out well over $100k in canceled Skrill withdrawals and sent players their cash via bank wire just days after Skrill was completely removed as a withdrawal option. Two of my grinders - who didn't even post in the 2+2 Merge cashout thread - also received $15k in cashouts via wire this past week as well.

    Compare that to Lock Poker, who pretty much made little effort to process any cashouts after Skrill was removed, I think this move should put a lot of doubters' minds at ease for the time being...especially given the amounts processed in the days after Skrill being shut down (which I hope is temporary).

    There's still work to be done but this was a pretty clutch move by Carbon getting out wires to players so quickly. My only problem with the bank wire switch was players who requested max $10K Skrill's had to settle for a $5k max bank wire instead - with the other $5k still waiting to be processed...
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    The pro play for months has been to initiate the cashout process to get everything you have on this network off and gtfo before the problems get even worse, or eventually they disappear.

    Sorry to chinamaniac who respects Carbon a lot since they have done him well over the years but he is in a very small minority of people who can get more then $12k to $18k a year off this network at this point.

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    I donīt think that Carbon is as bad as Lock.

    And: "...one person spoke with a representative at the Antigua Gaming Commission, the governing body that licenses Carbon Poker. He was told that the Commission is aware that Skrill withdrawals were cancelled at that the problem is related to issues with payment processors. He assured the player that the Commission monitors its licensees' cash on hand and that Carbon is not having liquidity problems."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel72 View Post
    I donīt think that Carbon is as bad as Lock.

    And: "...one person spoke with a representative at the Antigua Gaming Commission, the governing body that licenses Carbon Poker. He was told that the Commission is aware that Skrill withdrawals were cancelled at that the problem is related to issues with payment processors. He assured the player that the Commission monitors its licensees' cash on hand and that Carbon is not having liquidity problems."

    with naive greetings

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    I hear this stuff time and time again but the reality is if they aren't having liquidity problems then why can't the find ways to pay people, especially when they know it's damaging their reputation at the moment?

    Checks work fine for Bovada, WPN, etc... Bitcoin can be added as an option too.

    Lock is in a different category all together and nobody should compare the current Merge to it at least not at this stage. If stuff goes down in the next few years like Lock then we can look back at it but for now Merge shouldn't even be mentioned with Lock.

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    Due to reasons out of our control, Skrill will no longer be used as a payment option to process Withdrawals.
    -> Merge lost their Skrill account


    Quote Originally Posted by The PINO View Post
    To be fair Carbon processed and paid out well over $100k in canceled Skrill withdrawals and sent players their cash via bank wire just days after Skrill was completely removed as a withdrawal option. Two of my grinders - who didn't even post in the 2+2 Merge cashout thread - also received $15k in cashouts via wire this past week as well.
    If Merge is able to send bank wires, this confirms that they have no issue with their bank, right?

    And if they have no issue with their bank, they could send money to their Skrill account within 3 business days and then make Skrill transfers within seconds.

    -> this confirms that Merge lost their Skrill account. I also spoke with Optimal Payments and they assured me that Skrill has no processing issues.


    Quote Originally Posted by The PINO View Post
    Compare that to Lock Poker, who pretty much made little effort to process any cashouts after Skrill was removed, I think this move should put a lot of doubters' minds at ease for the time being...especially given the amounts processed in the days after Skrill being shut down (which I hope is temporary).
    I compare Lock very well with Merge, as both misappropriated player funds. The only difference is, Merge is in the stage of unacceptable delayed withdrawals while Lock moved to the stage of non payments.

    I hope that Merge will never get an Skrill account again, so that even the dumbest idiot can see something is wrong with Merge.


    Quote Originally Posted by The PINO View Post
    There's still work to be done but this was a pretty clutch move by Carbon getting out wires to players so quickly. My only problem with the bank wire switch was players who requested max $10K Skrill's had to settle for a $5k max bank wire instead - with the other $5k still waiting to be processed...
    -> This doubled the waiting time to withdraw $10K from 3-4 months to 6-8 months!

    Out of curiosity, I did not read Carbon's terms and conditions, but do customers have a credit contract with Carbon?


    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel72 View Post
    I donīt think that Carbon is as bad as Lock.

    And: "...one person spoke with a representative at the Antigua Gaming Commission, the governing body that licenses Carbon Poker. He was told that the Commission is aware that Skrill withdrawals were cancelled and that the problem is related to issues with payment processors. He assured the player that the Commission monitors its licensees' cash on hand and that Carbon is not having liquidity problems."

    with naive greetings

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    We have seen that Carbon has no issues with their bank(s), as they were able to send bank wires and Optimal Payments assured that Skrill has no processing issues. Where could be the processing issue then? On the moon?

    The only thing the Commission monitors is the license fee they receive.

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    Stop saying things that are not true. Merge did not "lose their skrill account"

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    If Carbon did not lose their Skrill account, why they are not able to send money to their Skrill account?

    Which deposit options does Skrill support?

    1. Bank deposits
    Skrill customers can fund their Skrill account with bank transfers from a bank account. This deposit option is available for all countries and our banking network enables you to make local bank transfers without incurring cross border charges. Bank transfers must originate from a bank account held in your name.

    Local and international bank transfers take 2 to 5 business days (excluding weekends and national holidays).

    It is more like a breach of Skrill's terms & conditions:


    11. Prohibited transactions

    11.1. It is strictly forbidden to send or receive payments as consideration for the sale or supply of:

    Third party processing or payment aggregation products or services Multi-level marketing, pyramid selling or ponzi schemes, matrix programmes or other “get rich quick” schemes or high yield investment programmes

    11.4. It is strictly forbidden to use your Skrill Account for any illegal purposes(misappropriation of player funds, ponzi scheme) including but not limited to fraud and money laundering. We will report any suspicious activity to the relevant law enforcement agency. You are prohibited from using your Skrill Account in an attempt to abuse, exploit or circumvent the usage restrictions imposed by a merchant on the services it provides.

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    TowerFlower, please, tell us how you really feel about Merge, lol :P

    I've spoken with the same people and I've received much different answers that suggest things are just fine at Merge (although definitely not perfect). If it gets to the point where they go all Lock Poker on everyone and just stop processing cashouts altogether then I think it's ok to give everyone a big "I told you so" type post on here...but the fact they've continued to pay despite so many people thinking they're going to rogue every month shows that Carbon is gonna be ok.

    And you can quote me a million times over and give me a collective "fuck you" when the day comes that Carbon up and flees with $15 million of player funds. But you'll probably be waiting a long, long time...
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    Quote Originally Posted by The PINO View Post
    TowerFlower, please, tell us how you really feel about Merge, lol :P
    I have no feelings about Merge. I just want to inform poker players that the player funds are misappropriated, because there is a lot of misleading information spread on the forums.

    Quote Originally Posted by The PINO View Post
    I've spoken with the same people and I've received much different answers that suggest things are just fine at Merge (although definitely not perfect). If it gets to the point where they go all Lock Poker on everyone and just stop processing cashouts altogether then I think it's ok to give everyone a big "I told you so" type post on here...but the fact they've continued to pay despite so many people thinking they're going to rogue every month shows that Carbon is gonna be ok.
    If it is fine for people that player funds are misappropriated, then it is fine for them. Everyone has his own taste.

    Quote Originally Posted by The PINO View Post
    And you can quote me a million times over and give me a collective "fuck you" when the day comes that Carbon up and flees with $15 million of player funds. But you'll probably be waiting a long, long time...
    You probably missed something, but Carbon can not flee with $15 million of player funds, as they are already misappropriated and obviously not available anymore, otherwise they would have used a part of it to process withdrawals to avoid the decline of their customer base and thus revenue and profits.

    What Carbon can try to do, is to continue their ponzi scheme and it is indeed possible that it will last longer.

    Unfortunately, ponzi schemes are based on a scheme with a negative development:

    Less and less incoming deposits to pay the huge amount of pending withdrawals, while the player base continues to decline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel72 View Post
    I donīt think that Carbon is as bad as Lock.

    And: "...one person spoke with a representative at the Antigua Gaming Commission, the governing body that licenses Carbon Poker. He was told that the Commission is aware that Skrill withdrawals were cancelled at that the problem is related to issues with payment processors. He assured the player that the Commission monitors its licensees' cash on hand and that Carbon is not having liquidity problems."

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    I hear this stuff time and time again but the reality is if they aren't having liquidity problems then why can't the find ways to pay people, especially when they know it's damaging their reputation at the moment?

    Checks work fine for Bovada, WPN, etc...

    Bitcoin can be added as an option too.

    Lock is in a different category all together and nobody should compare the current Merge to it at least not at this stage. If stuff goes down in the next few years like Lock then we can look back at it but for now Merge shouldn't even be mentioned with Lock.

    The checks work fine for xxxx is a bad comparison. Processing is not an easy business. If you have a huge processor and lose them then you are going to run into problems no matter what site you own. Even Bovada had a period where checks were taking 3 months at times since black friday. They do however thrive most of the time because they have been doing this since the 90s and WPN has also been in business a long time. But I guarantee if a major processor either of those sites have went sour in some way shape or form their wait times would increase as well.

    Bitcoin was added for an option for a lot of players today. I just initiated a max WD and will report how it goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Towerflower View Post
    I have no feelings about Merge. I just want to inform poker players that the player funds are misappropriated, because there is a lot of misleading information spread on the forums.
    If you know the player funds are missappropriated can you at least tell us how and where they are and show some evidence?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by chinamaniac View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker View Post

    I hear this stuff time and time again but the reality is if they aren't having liquidity problems then why can't the find ways to pay people, especially when they know it's damaging their reputation at the moment?

    Checks work fine for Bovada, WPN, etc...

    Bitcoin can be added as an option too.

    Lock is in a different category all together and nobody should compare the current Merge to it at least not at this stage. If stuff goes down in the next few years like Lock then we can look back at it but for now Merge shouldn't even be mentioned with Lock.

    The checks work fine for xxxx is a bad comparison. Processing is not an easy business. If you have a huge processor and lose them then you are going to run into problems no matter what site you own. Even Bovada had a period where checks were taking 3 months at times since black friday. They do however thrive most of the time because they have been doing this since the 90s and WPN has also been in business a long time. But I guarantee if a major processor either of those sites have went sour in some way shape or form their wait times would increase as well.

    Bitcoin was added for an option for a lot of players today. I just initiated a max WD and will report how it goes.
    This has been Carbon/Merge issues since Black Friday. Their have been times where they pumped checks out faster but a majority of the time it took at least a 4-8 weeks. I don't remember ever having checks on Bovada take 3 months but like all the processors serving sites in the industry they definitely have had a few take off with the money and bounce checks causing longer delays from time to time.

    I just logged into Carbon and it lists 6 to 8 weeks as the ETA in my Carbon Cashier for a check which is going to be 8 weeks or longer to get a max $2500 off the site. 5 to 7 checks a year at $2500 a pop is what the majority of players can withdraw which is a joke.

    I drop into read the Merge cashout thread over on 2+2 once a month which you china are very active in. If you are telling me people have received checks from Merge in two week time frames for the majority of the 4+ years since black friday which they have on Bovada then you would be wrong in saying that. Merge has people waiting for checks since May from what I see over in this thread but if you go check Bovada's or ACR I'm sure you won't see anyone waiting that long.

    Now they are entering into DFS which only caters to a percentage of the players the network has left. They better not pump too much into this as far as having guarantees they have to cover the overlay in with the current state of this company.

    https://www.carbongaming.ag/promos/fantasy-sports.html

    I will be interested to hear how bitcoin goes but all I know is I don't have the option and most others don't either. If they only open this up to a few of the top grinders then it don't help the masses so the ecosystem continues to struggle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinamaniac View Post
    The checks work fine for xxxx is a bad comparison. Processing is not an easy business.
    Illegal check processing is not an easy business, but all the other methods are easy to process.


    Quote Originally Posted by chinamaniac View Post
    If you have a huge processor and lose them then you are going to run into problems no matter what site you own.
    This explains why illegal checks are delayed, but not why all the other methods are delayed. And surprisingly Skrill deposits were instant.


    Quote Originally Posted by chinamaniac View Post
    Even Bovada had a period where checks were taking 3 months at times since black friday. They do however thrive most of the time because they have been doing this since the 90s and WPN has also been in business a long time.
    You just confirmed that illegal check processing issues are temporarily and not habitual over years!


    Quote Originally Posted by chinamaniac View Post
    But I guarantee if a major processor either of those sites have went sour in some way shape or form their wait times would increase as well.
    Their wait times for illegal check processing would indeed increase, but not for the other methods, if player funds do exist.


    Quote Originally Posted by chinamaniac View Post
    Bitcoin was added for an option for a lot of players today. I just initiated a max WD and will report how it goes.
    How much is max?


    Quote Originally Posted by chinamaniac View Post
    If you know the player funds are missappropriated can you at least tell us how and where they are and show some evidence?
    This question clearly shows that you have no knowledge how these things are working.

    a) How?

    They send the money from the deposit method accounts to wherever they like, with no control whatsoever. I.e. number accounts in tax havens.

    b) Show evidence where the player funds are?

    Such a stupid question. As if I would have access to bank transactions worldwide. A criminal investigation might could show to where the player funds went.

    As Carbon is not able to process the pending withdrawals in a timely manner and is not able to bring money in, I would say that the majority of the player funds is lost in failed investments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by chinamaniac View Post


    The checks work fine for xxxx is a bad comparison. Processing is not an easy business. If you have a huge processor and lose them then you are going to run into problems no matter what site you own. Even Bovada had a period where checks were taking 3 months at times since black friday. They do however thrive most of the time because they have been doing this since the 90s and WPN has also been in business a long time. But I guarantee if a major processor either of those sites have went sour in some way shape or form their wait times would increase as well.

    Bitcoin was added for an option for a lot of players today. I just initiated a max WD and will report how it goes.
    This has been Carbon/Merge issues since Black Friday. Their have been times where they pumped checks out faster but a majority of the time it took at least a 4-8 weeks. I don't remember ever having checks on Bovada take 3 months but like all the processors serving sites in the industry they definitely have had a few take off with the money and bounce checks causing longer delays from time to time.

    I just logged into Carbon and it lists 6 to 8 weeks as the ETA in my Carbon Cashier for a check which is going to be 8 weeks or longer to get a max $2500 off the site. 5 to 7 checks a year at $2500 a pop is what the majority of players can withdraw which is a joke.

    I drop into read the Merge cashout thread over on 2+2 once a month which you china are very active in. If you are telling me people have received checks from Merge in two week time frames for the majority of the 4+ years since black friday which they have on Bovada then you would be wrong in saying that. Merge has people waiting for checks since May from what I see over in this thread but if you go check Bovada's or ACR I'm sure you won't see anyone waiting that long.

    Now they are entering into DFS which only caters to a percentage of the players the network has left. They better not pump too much into this as far as having guarantees they have to cover the overlay in with the current state of this company.

    https://www.carbongaming.ag/promos/fantasy-sports.html

    I will be interested to hear how bitcoin goes but all I know is I don't have the option and most others don't either. If they only open this up to a few of the top grinders then it don't help the masses so the ecosystem continues to struggle.
    That first part I bolded is simply not true. There were plenty of times where checks were coming every 10 days and this was over a long period of time. I know because in 2012 when the p2p transfer was no longer available I ran up mid 5 figures in multiple games over a 3 month period and you could stack check cashouts up to multiples of 10 and I had a check hit my door every 10 days as did many others and all of this is in the cashout thread on 2+2. The only catch was the first check requested would take about 3-4 weeks but after that they followed every 10 days or so like clock work.

    Cashout times have there have never been the fastest of the U.S. sites and I never said they were and I never said they had an average of 2 weeks so I don't even know why you are saying that but from 2012 up until this year an average check was under 30 days. I'd guess a lot less than 30 days but I don't have the exact figures because it has no relevance to me. They quote 6-8 weeks and some checks this year took 4 months but if you follow the thread on 2+2 times are improving and payouts are being made.

    If you don't remember Bovada taking 3 months then you probably were not cashing out non stop max checks so maybe you missed this but that did indeed happen and I am sure many other guys who have been constantly cashing out could verify this or this information may be available in the thread on 2+2.

    The fact they quote 6-8 weeks also doesn't mean that all checks will take that long (although they are averaging about 12 weeks since after the super bowl). But if you want to login and say "hey they quote 8 weeks so I get 6 checks a year so I dont play" then don't play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Towerflower View Post
    Illegal check processing is not an easy business, but all the other methods are easy to process.


    Quote Originally Posted by chinamaniac View Post
    If you have a huge processor and lose them then you are going to run into problems no matter what site you own.
    This explains why illegal checks are delayed, but not why all the other methods are delayed. And surprisingly Skrill deposits were instant.


    Quote Originally Posted by chinamaniac View Post
    Even Bovada had a period where checks were taking 3 months at times since black friday. They do however thrive most of the time because they have been doing this since the 90s and WPN has also been in business a long time.
    You just confirmed that illegal check processing issues are temporarily and not habitual over years!


    Quote Originally Posted by chinamaniac View Post
    But I guarantee if a major processor either of those sites have went sour in some way shape or form their wait times would increase as well.
    Their wait times for illegal check processing would indeed increase, but not for the other methods, if player funds do exist.


    Quote Originally Posted by chinamaniac View Post
    Bitcoin was added for an option for a lot of players today. I just initiated a max WD and will report how it goes.
    How much is max?


    Quote Originally Posted by chinamaniac View Post
    If you know the player funds are missappropriated can you at least tell us how and where they are and show some evidence?
    This question clearly shows that you have no knowledge how these things are working.

    a) How?

    They send the money from the deposit method accounts to wherever they like, with no control whatsoever. I.e. number accounts in tax havens.

    b) Show evidence where the player funds are?

    Such a stupid question. As if I would have access to bank transactions worldwide. A criminal investigation might could show to where the player funds went.

    As Carbon is not able to process the pending withdrawals in a timely manner and is not able to bring money in, I would say that the majority of the player funds is lost in failed investments.
    All of the other methods can be easy but you need to do the processing yourself!!! Not every company processes their own payments. And without a good processor or a processor that limits your #s you are stuck

    There is the answer to just about everything you typed

    max btc was $5,000
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    Quote Originally Posted by chinamaniac View Post
    There were plenty of times where checks were coming every 10 days and this was over a long period of time. I know because in 2012 when the p2p transfer was no longer available I ran up mid 5 figures in multiple games over a 3 month period and you could stack check cashouts up to multiples of 10 and I had a check hit my door every 10 days as did many others and all of this is in the cashout thread on 2+2. The only catch was the first check requested would take about 3-4 weeks but after that they followed every 10 days or so like clock work.
    Merge has always been slower and inconsistent compared to other USA facing sites that actually pay their customers. This is all I'm trying to get at because it's a fact with the exception of a few people who have other options to get the money.

    I do remember times when checks were much quicker in 2012 since I played on there a little in that time but unlike some of the other sites Merge has had several times when checks took 12+ weeks. Their is no reason it should be going on still with super bowl being 9 months ago.

    Processors come and go but people will do things for money so finding processors shouldn't be that difficult. The network should have worked harder on this since it's very important to a lot of customers who jumped ship elsewhere even the same guys that claim they hate anonymous tables so they never would play on Bovada started to play there or moved to someplace else like WPN.

    The decrease in traffic of Merge tells a lot while other USA friendly sites increased especially when public opponent everywhere I read likes the Merge software better then WPN, Bovada, Chico Network,etc... These people wouldn't have jumped ship if it weren't for them eliminating rakeback and having slow cashouts.

    If Merge opens bitcoin up to everyone then starts taking two weeks to ship it even though that is a huge improvement over current pay methods it's still very slow in comparison to ACR which process bitcoin cashouts during the week within a few hours. People will think this is so great two week cashouts since they had to deal with long waits but sending bitcoin out is something Merge (or anyone) can do with ease without third party involvement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinamaniac View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Towerflower View Post
    Illegal check processing is not an easy business, but all the other methods are easy to process.




    This explains why illegal checks are delayed, but not why all the other methods are delayed. And surprisingly Skrill deposits were instant.


    Quote Originally Posted by chinamaniac View Post
    Even Bovada had a period where checks were taking 3 months at times since black friday. They do however thrive most of the time because they have been doing this since the 90s and WPN has also been in business a long time.
    You just confirmed that illegal check processing issues are temporarily and not habitual over years!


    Quote Originally Posted by chinamaniac View Post
    But I guarantee if a major processor either of those sites have went sour in some way shape or form their wait times would increase as well.
    Their wait times for illegal check processing would indeed increase, but not for the other methods, if player funds do exist.


    Quote Originally Posted by chinamaniac View Post
    Bitcoin was added for an option for a lot of players today. I just initiated a max WD and will report how it goes.
    How much is max?


    Quote Originally Posted by chinamaniac View Post
    If you know the player funds are missappropriated can you at least tell us how and where they are and show some evidence?
    This question clearly shows that you have no knowledge how these things are working.

    a) How?

    They send the money from the deposit method accounts to wherever they like, with no control whatsoever. I.e. number accounts in tax havens.

    b) Show evidence where the player funds are?

    Such a stupid question. As if I would have access to bank transactions worldwide. A criminal investigation might could show to where the player funds went.

    As Carbon is not able to process the pending withdrawals in a timely manner and is not able to bring money in, I would say that the majority of the player funds is lost in failed investments.
    All of the other methods can be easy but you need to do the processing yourself!!! Not every company processes their own payments. And without a good processor or a processor that limits your #s you are stuck

    There is the answer to just about everything you typed

    max btc was $5,000
    What a dumb, misleading and blatant lie!

    If you send money from your bank account to Skrill, then your bank process the transfer.

    If you send money from your Skrill account to another Skrill account, then Skrill process the transfer.

    If you send money with WU, then WU process the transfer.

    Even if you send BTC, the network process/confirm the transfer and not yourself!

    The only way you could yourself process a transfer is to take the money and bring it personally to the receiver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinamaniac View Post
    There were plenty of times where checks were coming every 10 days and this was over a long period of time. I know because in 2012 when the p2p transfer was no longer available I ran up mid 5 figures in multiple games over a 3 month period and you could stack check cashouts up to multiples of 10 and I had a check hit my door every 10 days as did many others and all of this is in the cashout thread on 2+2. The only catch was the first check requested would take about 3-4 weeks but after that they followed every 10 days or so like clock work.
    Merge has always been slower and inconsistent compared to other USA facing sites that actually pay their customers. This is all I'm trying to get at because it's a fact with the exception of a few people who have other options to get the money.

    I do remember times when checks were much quicker in 2012 since I played on there a little in that time but unlike some of the other sites Merge has had several times when checks took 12+ weeks. Their is no reason it should be going on still with super bowl being 9 months ago.

    Processors come and go but people will do things for money so finding processors shouldn't be that difficult. The network should have worked harder on this since it's very important to a lot of customers who jumped ship elsewhere even the same guys that claim they hate anonymous tables so they never would play on Bovada started to play there or moved to someplace else like WPN.

    The decrease in traffic of Merge tells a lot while other USA friendly sites increased especially when public opponent everywhere I read likes the Merge software better then WPN, Bovada, Chico Network,etc... These people wouldn't have jumped ship if it weren't for them eliminating rakeback and having slow cashouts.

    If Merge opens bitcoin up to everyone then starts taking two weeks to ship it even though that is a huge improvement over current pay methods it's still very slow in comparison to ACR which process bitcoin cashouts during the week within a few hours. People will think this is so great two week cashouts since they had to deal with long waits but sending bitcoin out is something Merge (or anyone) can do with ease without third party involvement.
    Merge has always been slower and inconsistent compared to other USA facing sites

    The funny part about this is they were slower pre black friday than post black friday! 6 months at times for checks back then according to Daly

    Processors come and go but people will do things for money so finding processors shouldn't be that difficult

    Just LOL especially if you want to stay around and not get robbed and not get caught. You think these companies just grab any joe off the street and do business with them? If they did they would be FTP and stars part 2 or they would have processors stealing left and right
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