So apparently they ran these super profitable high stakes poker games that were hecka lucrative and brought in thousands (!!!) of dollars a night for the house.
Was it ever explained that the games were rigged? Its not unheard of; Vito Genovese ran rigged high stakes poker games specifically to rip off businessmen. But they never outright said or even implied the games in The Sopranos were rigged, did they?
Always wanted to get some clarity on that.
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If I remember right they were raking 100 chips in plain site.
Who... the fuck... would let $100 a pot leave the table?
What universe does that happen in?
I think a rewatch is in order because thats fucking nuts.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
I hear that this is pretty standard in underground games, especially in NY. 10% (or more, lol) uncapped. In French casinos it's 4-5% uncapped and lots of people still play for some reason.Originally Posted by sonatine
I guess people just don't know any better? Or if you do, you're attracted by the sort of people who don't.
thats the craziest shit ive heard in a while. consider my mind blown.I hear that this is pretty standard in underground games, especially in NY. 10% (or more, lol) uncapped. In French casinos it's 4-5% uncapped and lots of people still play for some reason.
I guess people just don't know any better? Or if you do, you're attracted by the sort of people who don't.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
most underground games in NYC or at least the 2-5 and 5-10 nl have a "cap" of $30 anything else is 5% pot. This is pretty standard from what I've seen (I go to 3 different ones if I don't feel like driving to AC to play), wish I could find a better one, but it is what it is if you want to play. Funny enough, the players are so bad that even with the ridic rake, the games are beatable and are nice places to hang to pregame before you go out at night.thats the craziest shit ive heard in a while. consider my mind blown.
most underground games in NYC or at least the 2-5 and 5-10 nl have a "cap" of $30 anything else is 5% pot. This is pretty standard from what I've seen (I go to 3 different ones if I don't feel like driving to AC to play), wish I could find a better one, but it is what it is if you want to play. Funny enough, the players are so bad that even with the ridic rake, the games are beatable and are nice places to hang to pregame before you go out at night.
I think that makes sense for an underground mid-stakes NL game. In the (shitty) documentaries Ive seen the rake was $25-$30 on fuller pots so that jibes with my understanding. Honestly the more I digest that plus the size of the pot in the Sopranos stud games, I get it. My inner Jew is outraged/horrified but I get it.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
Whenever you're worried about the rake on a fake card game on a TV show that's not even on anymore, you probably should get out of the house and log off the internet
It's hilarious that we as a society think everyone can be a dr, a lawyer, an engineer. Some people are just fucking stupid. Why can't we just accept that?
It was a fictional show about mobsters.
People associate 'the mafia' with elements such as gambling, loansharking, garbage collections, construction, opulent displays of wealth etc.
The show featured all of these elements, including gambling.
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The fact that you associate me making a thread a 3am with 'being worried' in real life says to me that you probably should get out of the house and log off the internet.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
The fact that you associate me making a thread a 3am with 'being worried' in real life says to me that you probably should get out of the house and log off the internet.
"Always wanted to get some clarity on that."
Sounds like it's been on your mind for awhile. Tight life
It's hilarious that we as a society think everyone can be a dr, a lawyer, an engineer. Some people are just fucking stupid. Why can't we just accept that?
I went to a 2/5 home game once and one of the dealers didn't show so I took the odd downs. They had me raking 10% on the first $100 then $5 for every $100 after that. The part that I thought was really bad is that the pot got raked even if there wasn't a flop.
Sunshine was a pretty good dealer, though. Really controlled the game.
I mean, I get that if youre dealing with a 2/5 game, there might easily be 10k cash per table in the house, so yeah, maybe it makes sense to rake enough to pay for a good dealer and at least one dedicated security person.. so I guess my original question is more or less resolved.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
if i lived in an area where there wasn't already five casinos within an hour drive, i would def try to run my own game
seems like a helluva racket
you know, i used to run a regular NL home game along with a few other miscreants and i can honestly say that not only did none of us ever even consider charging rake, i think it would have gone over extremely badly if we did.
that said.. we were pretty much surrounded by casinos, and the games played small (average stack was maybe $100-$300).
but with the interest in non-holdem games combined with the difficulty in finding them spread in casinos makes me wonder if revisiting that theme but spreading a rotating mix might not be such a bad idea.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
if you build it they will come (a good atmosphere, comfortable chairs, flat screen tv's, wifi, decent sandwiches, drinks, maybe a massage girl, security obv)
you know, i used to run a regular NL home game along with a few other miscreants and i can honestly say that not only did none of us ever even consider charging rake, i think it would have gone over extremely badly if we did.
that said.. we were pretty much surrounded by casinos, and the games played small (average stack was maybe $100-$300).
but with the interest in non-holdem games combined with the difficulty in finding them spread in casinos makes me wonder if revisiting that theme but spreading a rotating mix might not be such a bad idea.
and then while they are sitting around playing and watching tv, you wanna bet on the games? sure, i'll match pinny lines
could easily become a six figure plus income stream if you do it right
i just dont think id want to roll the dice with that kind of legal exposure... plus all the goombas ive ever seen trying to get enterprising in that direction seem to spend most of their time chasing down buyins they fronted to degens. i dont have the temperament for that.
but if i can pocket half a buyin spreading 10/20 mixed limit games? and somehow handle it all via digital beanie baby money?
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
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