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    Strikeforce heavyweight grand prix final is tonight

    Looks like a good card especially Milendez vs Thompson and the main will prove whether or not Cormier is for real or just a giant wrestler.

    streams if you don't have Showtime which I don't
    http://www.vipbox.tv/sports/ufc.html

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    Def looking to see what Cormier can do with Barnett. Thanks for the link.
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    Just ordered showtime. Usually grab it the day of the fights, cancel it tuesday or wednesday or whenever I remember. Works out to about 2.50 on the cable bill. Well worthwhile.

    8 PM EST the prelims start on Showtime Xtreme or whatever its called.

    I gotta think Gilbert is a mortal lock here. With the heavyweights, I want to pick Cormier, but Josh Barnett... I have a Melendez-Cormier parlay going, but not with the greatest of confidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly View Post
    Just ordered showtime. Usually grab it the day of the fights, cancel it tuesday or wednesday or whenever I remember. Works out to about 2.50 on the cable bill. Well worthwhile.

    8 PM EST the prelims start on Showtime Xtreme or whatever its called.

    I gotta think Gilbert is a mortal lock here. With the heavyweights, I want to pick Cormier, but Josh Barnett... I have a Melendez-Cormier parlay going, but not with the greatest of confidence.
    I agree. Nice catch on that Ariel Helwani tweet about Jones getting a dui too.

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    Odds makers have this as even. I think there is a ton of money to be made on barnett here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BetCheckBet View Post
    Odds makers have this as even. I think there is a ton of money to be made on barnett here.
    I agree. I think Barnett is a lock here. Same with Melendez.

    I just can't see either losing although we all know anything can happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BetCheckBet View Post
    Odds makers have this as even. I think there is a ton of money to be made on barnett here.
    He's lighter than he's been at any time recently, even if only by a few lbs. If he can use his reach advantage well, he should be good, you would think, but BigFoot couldn't so it with a much larger advantage. Cormier ain't easy to hit, he's strong as fuck, and Barnett won't likely be taking him down very often if at all. AFAIK, he doesn't have any TUE for test, so the Japan advantage doesn't apply here. Barnett has a big submission advantage I think, but he probably won't often have Cormier in a position where he can use them very often. Intangibles mostly go to Barnett, for historical bad-assed reasons.

    I think the Warmaster goes to sleep tonight. I almost can't believe I think that. But I do.

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    Little off topic but my buddy Marina has her first professional fight in Mass tomorrow.

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    My bet is she will be in StrikeForce within the next 8-12 months. One bad bitch right here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTemplar View Post
    Little off topic but my buddy Marina has her first professional fight in Mass tomorrow.

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    My bet is she will be in StrikeForce within the next 8-12 months. One bad bitch right here.
    Needs to be a new rule, submission by licking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Dragons View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTemplar View Post
    Little off topic but my buddy Marina has her first professional fight in Mass tomorrow.

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    My bet is she will be in StrikeForce within the next 8-12 months. One bad bitch right here.
    Needs to be a new rule, submission by licking.
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    Great fucking fight. I think that Milendez did win but holy shit Thompson fucked his face up.

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    Cormier is real deal. Looking amazing. This guy would likely be world champ if he competed at earlier age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BetCheckBet View Post
    Cormier is real deal. Looking amazing. This guy would likely be world champ if he competed at earlier age.
    The Barnett everyone knows and loves is the UFC 36/Japanese MMA Barnett. Hard to get older and have less chemical tools at your disposal and still be dominant. Barnett's still awesome to watch and beats most in the world, but not the best in the world, and Cormier is one of those, it seems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTemplar View Post
    Little off topic but my buddy Marina has her first professional fight in Mass tomorrow.

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    My bet is she will be in StrikeForce within the next 8-12 months. One bad bitch right here.

    Winner by Arm Bar. 44 Seconds into the first round.

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    she wouldn't have to twist my arm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Dragons View Post
    she wouldn't have to twist my arm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BetCheckBet View Post
    Cormier is real deal. Looking amazing. This guy would likely be world champ if he competed at earlier age.
    The Barnett everyone knows and loves is the UFC 36/Japanese MMA Barnett. Hard to get older and have less chemical tools at your disposal and still be dominant. Barnett's still awesome to watch and beats most in the world, but not the best in the world, and Cormier is one of those, it seems.
    Barnett has always struggled against the HW elite, I was surprised to see how many people picked him over Cormier in this thread, Cormier is just a far superior athlete, I think he dominated a prime Barnett as well. Cormier is a huge HW threat, hopefully he moves over to the UFC, there's nothing left for him in strikeforce.
    How did you guys score the Melendez fight? I thought Thomson won a very close decision, but it's another fight where its hard to pick either way and it's impossible to be too upet with the judges. I also think Melendez is overrated, I don't think he's a to 5 guy in the UFC.

    Quote Originally Posted by shortbuspoker View Post
    Great fucking fight. I think that Milendez did win but holy shit Thompson fucked his face up.
    did you give rounds 1-3 to Melendez? I thought he won 1 and 2, 3 was a draw IMO but because no judges ever score rounds a draw and if I have to give it to someone I thought Thomson won it and I gave 4 and 5 clearly to Thomson. I also wish MMA would do away with the round by round system, it's a terrible way to score a fight. Pride had a better scoring system back in the day. The fighter that does more damage and comes closer to finishing over the total fight should win, there should be no other way to score an mma fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter mcneil View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly View Post

    The Barnett everyone knows and loves is the UFC 36/Japanese MMA Barnett. Hard to get older and have less chemical tools at your disposal and still be dominant. Barnett's still awesome to watch and beats most in the world, but not the best in the world, and Cormier is one of those, it seems.
    Barnett has always struggled against the HW elite, I was surprised to see how many people picked him over Cormier in this thread, Cormier is just a far superior athlete, I think he dominated a prime Barnett as well. Cormier is a huge HW threat, hopefully he moves over to the UFC, there's nothing left for him in strikeforce.
    How did you guys score the Melendez fight? I thought Thomson won a very close decision, but it's another fight where its hard to pick either way and it's impossible to be too upet with the judges. I also think Melendez is overrated, I don't think he's a to 5 guy in the UFC.

    Quote Originally Posted by shortbuspoker View Post
    Great fucking fight. I think that Milendez did win but holy shit Thompson fucked his face up.
    did you give rounds 1-3 to Melendez? I thought he won 1 and 2, 3 was a draw IMO but because no judges ever score rounds a draw and if I have to give it to someone I thought Thomson won it and I gave 4 and 5 clearly to Thomson. I also wish MMA would do away with the round by round system, it's a terrible way to score a fight. Pride had a better scoring system back in the day. The fighter that does more damage and comes closer to finishing over the total fight should win, there should be no other way to score an mma fight.
    I thought it was too close to call without hard numbers and was pretty sure even though I thought Thompson took it, especially with the late takedown at the end - that the judges were counting points and not just the overall condition of the guy at the end. So here you go:

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