Dipshits Leave $15K+ In A Safe At Rio With A Degen In The Room And Surprisingly The Money Disappears

[GambleBotsChafedPenis]

here's the thread on 4...

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...again-1540357/

think detective druff might have to break this one down because there smells like a lot of bullshit in this story...like how as the roommate do you have $10K in the safe while the other guy has like $6-7K and you don't know the combo to the safe? that makes no sense...

lots of other sketchy shit that im too lazy to type up, but Christ these guys are really fucking stupid if they left a degen in the room with that kinda money...

[lurkeymclurkerville]

Druff needs to put up a section called 'street smarts for young poker players.' It should also link to the peterdc and the micon neck tattoo guy threads.

Astounding how gullible these poker players are.


:rolled

[Crowe Diddly]

you can probably just google the safe brand/model and find the default password without ever calling the front desk. seems like 000000 is an all-too-common default password.

[Dan Druff]

I haven't read the thread yet, but it seems like every year there's some suspicious story (or stories) about money "disappearing" at the Rio.

And every time the story is full of more holes than swiss cheese, and it becomes apparent that people are making up stories in order to explain to backers how their seed money was blown before they got to register for WSOP events.

Without even reading a word, I am going on record predicting that's the case here.

[Dan Druff]

Actually, there was one exception -- where "Willing2Die" had money stolen from his room, and then the Rio stonewalled him regarding who accessed it.

Turned out that they accidentally double-checked-in someone to his room, and that guy stole Willing2Die's money. But his story seemed legit from the start, while all of the others seemed super shady.

[Dan Druff]

Just read the beginning of the thread.

Story was initially told "for a friend", and the OP isn't the victim. No idea why the victim didn't speak for himself. Shortly thereafter, the victim ("Coach McGuirk") showed up and posted his longer version of the story.

Basically the victim left his roommate and a poker player named Omar Ghanim in the room. Roommate left, Omar supposedly called security to have the safe opened, and they didn't check Omar's ID. They opened the safe, and Omar supposedly stole the $15k.

Here is a pic of Omar (on the right):



Also they claim the Rio won't cooperate and are covering up their mistake.

However, of course there are tons of holes in the story.

Here' s Coach McGuirk's post:

Hi guys, I was the person whose room safe was broken into. I was going to make a post in the next day or two but my friend saw my post on the Rio facebook page and went ahead and made this thread. He just told me about creating this thread for me so I guess I'll make this the official forum for the incident.

For starters, let me say that I am well aware that my roommate screwed up big time by allowing this guy to stay in the room by himself. This guy was clearly a broke degenerate "poker player" and I never had a good feeling around him. I was very upset with him right after the incident but I can't change what he did. However, that doesn't change the fact that the Rio fucked up big time by opening the safe for Omar when his name was not on the room. For the record, i had $6500 in the safe and my roommate had $10000 in the safe.

Pretty tired right now so don't feel rehashing that entire night, but I'll give a few important notes. The incident appears to have occurred at approximately 10:30 pm on Thursday night. My roommate was playing craps at the time of the incident, I was in the poker room. My roommate went to talk to me in the poker room around 11:45 and left to go to the room a little after midnight. About 10 minutes later I get a frantic call from him freaking out because Omar's bags were suddenly missing and Omar wasn't answering his phone after responding to several texts until roughly 30 minutes prior. I hustled up to the room immediately and tried to open the safe (I was the only person who knew the code), the code had been changed and it would no longer open. I feared the worst almost immediately when i saw an envelope I had filled with cash in the safe now lying empty on the coffee table. We of course called security right after that and got a security guard up there within a few minutes, however maintenance took close to 15 minutes. Sure enough when maintenance came to open the safe it was empty (btw when all this happened nobody asked to see any identification from me one time).

Me and my roommate spent the next 3-4 hours filing a police report and giving statements to the LVPD as well as filling out an incident report with the casino. While all this was happening my head was spinning because I couldn't figure out for the life of me how the safe got opened, this guy was never even in the room once when I had opened or closed the safe. Later that night as I was talking to the Rio supervisor of security for the night he told me in private that a call was placed from the room at approximately 10:30 pm to hotel maintenance to open the safe. Before he told me this he was very adamant that I didn't tell anyone else about this, he made sure that I wasn't recording him and threatened to sue me if I recorded him without his knowledge.

The few times I have talked to the Rio since they refuse to acknowledge or give any information regarding times or anything that hotel maintenance might or might not have done because it's an active investigation. Apparently the next day another security person on the floor acknowledged to my roommate that the Rio "fucked up, and didn't follow protocol", but I did not personally hear this conversation. So basically all this comes down to the fact that the Rio opened a room safe for a person whose name was not on the room because they did not check any identification.

I apologize for that long winded paragraph but just wanted to rattle off as much pertinent information that I could think of. As to the scumbag who did this, his name is Omar Ghanim, apparently he had one big score at some Borgata tourney. He was begging my roommate for a stake in one of the nightlies and kept making excuses about how his Western Union transfer was being delayed. Standard broke degen stuff I guess.

The police and Harrah's do have all of his information so I suspect he will be caught eventually because I doubt he'll be able to help himself from entering the pit at some point in the future. But if anyone, especially in the Atlantic City area sees this guy in the next couple weeks I would appreciate it if you could let me know. To make matters worse the Rio said they would comp my next two nights and ended up charging me afterwards, 3 days later and they still haven't fixed it yet, waiting to hear back from the front desk manager working that night, lol.........

So yea this pretty much completely soured my trip, wasn't motivated to play any other bracelet events after this, wasn't in the right frame of mind. I'm currently filing a report with the Risk Management people who handle these type of situations. Some people are saying I should try to find a lawyer locally, I'm honestly not sure what the best recourse is at this point.

The holes in the story were pointed out by a poster named "krunky":

1. If the RIO really did open the safe for someone without ID verification who was not on the room list, they should at least comp you one night. (I'd say this is max as you can't prove how much money was in there and was their mistake).

2. You say Omar was just up to the room to smoke weed with your roommate, yet later say when you rushed up to the room you noticed that Omar's bags were missing. Seems odd that he has multiple bags that he just carries around with him all the time. I'd assume they'd be in his actual room or he was actually staying in yours.

3. Your actual roommate was okay with having $6500 in a safe that only YOU knew the code to?

4. I can't seem to find the answer to the question of another poster, how is it known that the RIO did not check the ID? Is there record or acknowledgment? Did Omar text you guys after the fact to let you know that the plan was still on? (Just another hypothetical, not saying you're at fault or this happened)

My thoughts exactly.

Either "Coach McGuirk" was in on the whole thing to roll the Rio, or he got scammed by the roommate, who was either in cahoots with Omar or is using him as a scapegoat.

Very possible that it really went down like this:

- Roommate was smoking pot with Omar in the room. Omar wasn't a close friend.

- Omar said, "Thanks for the pot bro," and bailed.

- Roommate needed access to his money in the safe, but didn't have the combo.

- Roommate called security, figuring safe could be opened because his name is on the room.

- Security showed up and opens the safe, but forgets to ask for ID.

- Roommate has lightbulb pop over his head. What if Omar was alone and had made the same request? He could have stolen all the money!

- Roommate steals money.

- Roommate calls Coach McGuirk and pretends to be freaking out that Omar and "his bags" are gone.

[Dan Druff]

Post by another guy just now seems to semi-confirm that Coach McGuirk wasn't in on it, and was likely the victim in some way (likely by the roommate):

After reading this thread, I'm sure that I was staying directly across the hall from these guys, they would have been in room 748 or 750. I was in my room on Thursday night and I started to hear some loud talking in the hallway. I went close to my door and I could hear one guy defending himself very loudly saying something like "I know I fucked up, but you know I wouldn't steal from you". I heard one or both of them mention something about their safe a few times. I went to look through my peep hole and their door was open and they were standing in their room close to the door and there were no security guards there yet. They had no reason to think anyone was listening when they were arguing without the guards there yet, so this proves to me that Coach was not in on the scam. A little later, i heard the security guards come to the room and there was a lot of yelling going on. I didn't really hear what they were saying at this point. I stayed in my room for awhile, idk maybe for 45 minutes, playing online poker. When I left to go downstairs, the door was closed and I didn't hear anymore yelling. When I came back an hour or so later, the door was still closed and I didn't hear anything. Then not much time passed and the security guards or maybe the police came back. I went to bed shortly after that, so I don't know anything else. Coach, sorry I don't have any useful information to help your investigation, best of luck to you.

[Dan Druff]

Also this Coach guy mentioned dealing with "Risk Management" at the Rio, which is exactly who they refer you to.

While some people know this, I would think the average degen wouldn't be familiar with that detail, so I doubt the story is completely made up.

Smart $ goes on the roommate scamming him and blaming it on a convenient degen like Omar.

[Brittney Griner's Clit]

And Omar just leaves forever at the same time. Omar has no friends and no way to defend himself? Cmon now.

[SrslySirius]

Very possible that it really went down like this:

- Roommate was smoking pot with Omar in the room. Omar wasn't a close friend.

- Omar said, "Thanks for the pot bro," and bailed.

- Roommate needed access to his money in the safe, but didn't have the combo.

- Roommate called security, figuring safe could be opened because his name is on the room.

- Security showed up and opens the safe, but forgets to ask for ID.

- Roommate has lightbulb pop over his head. What if Omar was alone and had made the same request? He could have stolen all the money!

- Roommate steals money.

- Roommate calls Coach McGuirk and pretends to be freaking out that Omar and "his bags" are gone.

CASE CLOSED

[MumblesBadly]

Smart $ goes on the roommate scamming him and blaming it on a convenient degen like Omar.

Dan, while my impression is that you are good at sniffing out a lot of BS, I think your "smart money" recommendation here is a bad bet. Consider what Coach McQuirk said here:

"All I can tell you is based on how I saw (my roommate) react (when he didn't know I was around) that it wouldn't make sense for him to act in such a way if he was in on it, and this wasn't a show he was putting on in front of the floor, this is when he was by himself in his room talking to his girlfriend, and he's just not that good of an actor either. I'm 99% sure he isn't involved...

... Lastly, I talked this possibility over with a very trustworthy person who has known my roommate for over a decade and knows he tendencies as well as anyone, and he came to the same assessment that he didn't think he was involved either."

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=192

With that said, what kind of Kobe burgers odds would you lay on this matter?

[Dan Druff]

Smart $ goes on the roommate scamming him and blaming it on a convenient degen like Omar.

Dan, while my impression is that you are good at sniffing out a lot of BS, I think your "smart money" recommendation here is a bad bet. Consider what Coach McQuirk said here:

"All I can tell you is based on how I saw (my roommate) react (when he didn't know I was around) that it wouldn't make sense for him to act in such a way if he was in on it, and this wasn't a show he was putting on in front of the floor, this is when he was by himself in his room talking to his girlfriend, and he's just not that good of an actor either. I'm 99% sure he isn't involved...

... Lastly, I talked this possibility over with a very trustworthy person who has known my roommate for over a decade and knows he tendencies as well as anyone, and he came to the same assessment that he didn't think he was involved either."

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=192

With that said, what kind of Kobe burgers odds would you lay on this matter?

Not sure about odds, but I would definitely bet that the true story deviates significantly from the one being presented.

I just threw out a theory.

We still don't have an explanation for why Omar had "multiple bags" in the room, why the roommate never had the code to the safe, or whether the Rio has acknowledged fault in not checking ID.

The only time I needed a safe opened, they sent 2 security guards and took my ID.

[MumblesBadly]

We still don't have an explanation for why Omar had "multiple bags" in the room,

2.) Omar had come up in the room earlier in the day while we were all in the room because he needed to place to put his bags and supposedly he had a room that was supposed to be ready that night. This was when he started his constant string of bull**** about his Western Union transfer being delayed and indirectly asking for money to cover the resort fees for his room until his money came. This was the point where I should've just asked him to take his **** out and leave and make sure that nobody let him in the room again. After Omar left his bags in the room he disappeared for the day degening off in the pit the couple hundred he had won gambling the night before and resurfaced again later that night.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=188

Of course, the "delayed" Western Union money is a classic degen card. But until personally bitten by such a move, most people wont be 'the heavy' and force a smooth-talking degen to leave once the their bags are in the room for awhile. Because most people don't want to come off as seeming like a dick.