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[duped_samaritan]

Obv OPs mind will not be changed, and if you guys really just think those 30-60 player fields are awesome than power to you. But why put so much energy into trying to chnging the big field mtts if you dont even play them.

Why do you think that the GI60 $10- $50 are barely getting 20 or 30 entries though while there are other tournaments with the same buyins, starting around the same time, getting 8-12x the number of entires. Perhaps there's just something about playing for lots more money?

Here are results from 6/28 and 6/29. Keep in mind that 6/28 was a sunday (busiest day of week for mtts)

Gone in 60 Tournaments - (I believe several were cancelled due to lack of interest, just copying results from ACR website)

Time Finished Tournament Buy-in RESULT
4:01pm GI60M - $200 GTD PLO8 R/A $2 48 players, covered by $76
7:35pm GI60M - $250 GTD 6-Max $4 60 players, covered by $42
11:29pm GI60M - $150 GTD $3 67 players, covered by $78
10:58pm GI60M - $500 GTD $10 34 players, $160 overlay
11:26pm GI60M - $1,500 GTD $50 20 players, $500 overlay
11:51pm GI60M - $100 GTD Turbo $2 75 players, covered by $116
12:00pm GI60M - $200 GTD PLO8 R/A $2 43 players, covered by $53
3:45pm GI60M - $250 GTD 6 Max $4 40 players, $90 overlay
5:45pm GI60M - $1000 GTD R/A $20 21 players overlay (not sure how big)
7:25pm GI60M - $150 GTD NLHE $3 47 players covered by $20
8:15pm GI60M - $500 GTD NLHE $10 31 players $190 overlay
8:45pm GIS60M - $1500 GTD NLHE $50 17 players $650 overlay


Every GI60M tourney with buyin over $5 barely gets more players than their on demand sngs style tourneys...

spartan you are funny man

Heck yeah. Gi60 rocj

I did a 30$entry for a 600gtd. And if generally don'tplay that high(30$)

It had like 35 entries. I played tight most of the time made a couple of bluffs, that worked. Didnt cash though. I think it was top 8 in the money.

I made it out of the late. It was fun and felt like real poker. Not a rentry casino.

Did you really not notice that all the GI60s are reentries also?

You really think I'm the nit for prefering to play mtts with several hundred entries and decent money up top instead o these GO6s sng sized ones?

[FRANKRIZZO]

Hi duped no one is saying to take away all your 3 hour late reg. We are saying give us other options so we don't have to play 10 dollar buyins for 8 hours. I don't think there is anything wrong in having other options other then 3 hour plus rentrys is there?

[duped_samaritan]

Hi duped no one is saying to take away all your 3 hour late reg. We are saying give us other options so we don't have to play 10 dollar buyins for 8 hours. I don't think there is anything wrong in having other options other then 3 hour plus rentrys is there?

I agree 100% Frankie, players should be able to choose from mtts with fields as big as possible, HUSNGs and everything inbetween.


If you check OP and his followup posts though, he seems to think that late reg is actually not making tournaments bigger.

I disagree with pretty much everything the spartan says in first two posts of this thread.

I rallied a whole bunch of posters to complain about th 3hour/5 hour late reg on the majority of there tournaments on all levels..

Proclaiming that people would enter more tournaments and satellites if the late reg was 60 minutes across the board..

Then shortly after he made thread, I guess they announced GI60 series - setting the stage perfectly...

[thesparten]

I kinda rallied the troops on that one.

Granted there not as busy as I would have thought but one of the main complaint of acr was that it was full of nits and regs.

Those people love 3 hour late registration. By the same token 3 hour late was keeping away the rec,s for years.

The gi60 will only grow and attract rec,s to the site..

It's a win/win..

It's only been a week and already people here and 2+2 are saying "il try acr now!" That's because of the gi60 not the 3hour late..

Those tourny entries are not going to shrink but slowly grow. This is the slow season too. When the fall comes and they make a gi60 monthly it will have a devoted following of rec,s and the nits will follow.

There are so many regs and nits in acr, even there complaining on the cash games there no action even in micro stakes. It hours and hours of fold or raise when u absolutely have the nuts. No one gives action.

The gi60 will only grow. It's only been a week.

All the micro surpassed the gtd but most of them are in the low/med. It will grow not shrink and there are working in satalites for them as well....

[thesparten]

Unless it's a daily,weekly or monthly mega, online tournanent its not supposed to last for days or even 6,7,8,9 hours.

Just take what druff or Brendan said on the last broadcast and apply it. Nit. ..

. I will confidently say i was the "proverbial straw"..

One embarrassing thing though. When I ttied to guess the name of the tourny and asked about sattilites he responded imidiatltly to my post. I thought I have won the ticket. I was checking from my phone at work and the rest is history.. Not the first time I " dicked myself..but most definitely the proverbial straw of having the 60 late come to fruition!!!!.

I started the thread that was crushing for a couple of weeks and laid heavy in 2 other threads while responding in my own, then the td started his thread to address it while P.M ing me.. I'm new to poker and I'm proud of what happened.

Duped samaraten is just a nit. Nothing wrong with recognizing a job well done. I take your passive aggressive smug remark as a back handed compliment.

[anchordraw]

I deposited $100 on ACR about 5 months ago. Played for about a month. I actually turned my $100 deposit into over $400 before I donked it off somehow. I think I put most of my roll into the largest tourneys (fk bankroll management, I was taking a shot at a big score). I liked that they offered Omaha tourneys, and the software seemed pretty good.

They never gave me a deposit bonus, not sure what I was supposed to get, but I never bothered to pursue it too hard. I e-mailed support, but they didn't reply. figured it was a scam site to not even reply. Since I busted out, and they didn't reply, I didn't reload.

I absolutely DO NOT want to play a tourney that lasts over 3 hours unless it is a big buyin with a big pay off. I never had any desire to re-deposit due to the lol 3 hour late registration, then they let you rebuy after the registration for awhile also, what a joke. maybe chainsaw thinks tourneys should last forever, but I don't think that is a good structure, definitely not for rec players.

A poker tourney doesn't really start until the rebuy period ends. wtf, you expect me to play on a site where you have to play for hours before the real tourney starts. sure I could enter late, but I don't want to enter a tourney late with <10 big blinds.

Betoline's (BOL) software sucks, but at least they have decent sized fields in many of the evening tourneys. Usually several with over $1K GT, and they usually end in about 3 hours, including the 1 hr rebuy period.

I might take a look at ACR again if what your saying is true, that they getting rid of the 3-4 hr rebuy periods. No Omaha tourneys on BOL.

[thesparten]

I deposited $100 on ACR about 5 months ago. Played for about a month. I actually turned my $100 deposit into over $400 before I donked it off somehow. I think I put most of my roll into the largest tourneys (fk bankroll management, I was taking a shot at a big score). I liked that they offered Omaha tourneys, and the software seemed pretty good.

They never gave me a deposit bonus, not sure what I was supposed to get, but I never bothered to pursue it too hard. I e-mailed support, but they didn't reply. figured it was a scam site to not even reply. Since I busted out, and they didn't reply, I didn't reload.

I absolutely DO NOT want to play a tourney that lasts over 3 hours unless it is a big buyin with a big pay off. I never had any desire to re-deposit due to the lol 3 hour late registration, then they let you rebuy after the registration for awhile also, what a joke. maybe chainsaw thinks tourneys should last forever, but I don't think that is a good structure, definitely not for rec players.

A poker tourney doesn't really start until the rebuy period ends. wtf, you expect me to play on a site where you have to play for hours before the real tourney starts. sure I could enter late, but I don't want to enter a tourney late with <10 big blinds.

Betoline's (BOL) software sucks, but at least they have decent sized fields in many of the evening tourneys. Usually several with over $1K GT, and they usually end in about 3 hours, including the 1 hr rebuy period.

I might take a look at ACR again if what your saying is true, that they getting rid of the 3-4 hr rebuy periods. No Omaha tourneys on BOL.

There Not getting rid of the 180 late But adding more normal tournies begrudgingly..

Its Not a scam site call the cs number for any issues..

I agree with your assesment of bol but there scammish..

If u take a poker bonus there of like 100$ the roll over to withdraw is like 8k!!!!

THE BONUS IS A SET UP AT BOL.... try full flush instead..

Acr is the best for new york but they really have that pre bf mentality and still think the economy is gang busters..

If your not grinding 24 tables or fireing multiple bullits in at least there 109$ tournies, they have no use for u..then they all go on forums and complain about the traffic and lack of fish.

There is full flush which is like bol but more honest and acr is good if u navigate the tournies and adjust your game..acr would easily be the better if they can adopt a more accesible strategy..

[duped_samaritan]

I kinda rallied the troops on that one.

Granted there not as busy as I would have thought but one of the main complaint of acr was that it was full of nits and regs.

Those people love 3 hour late registration. By the same token 3 hour late was keeping away the rec,s for years.

The gi60 will only grow and attract rec,s to the site..

It's a win/win..

It's only been a week and already people here and 2+2 are saying "il try acr now!" That's because of the gi60 not the 3hour late..

Those tourny entries are not going to shrink but slowly grow. This is the slow season too. When the fall comes and they make a gi60 monthly it will have a devoted following of rec,s and the nits will follow.

There are so many regs and nits in acr, even there complaining on the cash games there no action even in micro stakes. It hours and hours of fold or raise when u absolutely have the nuts. No one gives action.

The gi60 will only grow. It's only been a week.

All the micro surpassed the gtd but most of them are in the low/med. It will grow not shrink and there are working in satalites for them as well....

They finally got rid of the GI60, not sure exactly when, but I know they were regularly getting cancelled and rarely getting more than the min players required to cover.

Guess what I'm really saying to op is I told you so.

[thesparten]

Yes they did get rid of them...

The site is 90% mutitabling hard core grinders.

It is the most rec prohibitive environment online..

The whole site and structures and rewards program is solely built for them and there shenanigans. They even encourage seat scripters and the like..

They go out of there way to force feed there regulars with evey nuance possible.

At least they have quite a few 120 minate late reg tournament, s but they also added a lot of 5hour late reg games and a couple of tournament s with 15 minute blinds and 25 levels of late reg (or something like that)..
Lol !!!

With the different blind structures and late reg and corresponding payout structure is all just to help all the uber nit grinders and large bankroll players..
Recs need not apply..

When I mentioned and educated people on 2+2 about that, if recs really knew how acr sets them up to be knocked down by acr in sooo many "nuanced" ways being propagated and encouraged by acr, the recs would be pissed..

They are "artificially" creating an environment to help the grinders make there daily bread..

It's taking someone's money on the "pretense" of playing a "fair" game of poker.

I EVEN BELIEVE!! that the seating at cash tables should be automated.
Meaning u only choose your limits and you are automatically placed at the next available chair..

But grinders are scared to play "fair" poker!!!

I was banned forever from 2+2...

I was scolded by the TD for complaining after the gi60 didn't work i was actually involved (instrumental) with the TD finnally giving in to the 60 minute late tourny...I was banned the day after the scolding.

I still play there but I did have to significantly up my game but it's still not "fair"or fun poker..

[ftpjesus]

Maybe ACR thinks they can be the ANTI PS.. Since so many think PS is now anti-regs. Wouldn't it make sense for some poker room to try and bring in their business?? Granted PS doesn't get traffic from the US that much (other then those who get away with VPNing or live on the border and can go play in another country.).Hell living here in AZ I thought bout figuring a way to be able to at least play weekends on PS in Mexico since I'm only 4hrs from Rocky Point MX on the north end of Gulf of California even found a house for rent for $700USD a month bigger then where I live now but given my situation financially from my back issue I cant make it work right now.(ill post an update later but it sucks my lawyers doing what he can but its turning into a fucking catch 22 other then I have a hearing with AZ Industrial Commission on June 1st that I may have to call off now unless something gives this week, better to w/d hearing and have option to refile then go to hearing and lose outright and be fucked)

[thesparten]

Acr is creating a niche for bum hunting nit grinders. The site does pay but it's just a way of creating income under the pretense of playing poker.

I actually made that point on 2+2 that acr has a bunch of
bumhuntung nits players for very long boring sessions..

Where every site is creating an environment where rec can't be hood winked , acr is going in the opposite direction where u have guyes sitting on 24 empty tables(literally).

The site actually help those in the "know" to beat recs by shenanigans not playing "fair" and fun poker..

The sit n go,s are the same way. Endless open tables with guys refusing to play each other, hof..

Even at higher stakes it's just a nit fest playing for rake back.

There is no other viable option for new York. Full flush is going down with payments taking 6 months and tournys never running.

I'm also experimenting with b.o.l. but never forget to JEVER TAKE a 10$ deposit bonus couse u have to take thousands to clear it. That's a scam in itself..

[thesparten]

Just bubbled a mtt after 4.5 hours.. Such bullshit. All day to play one online tournament.. No fun.

I guess il just do a sit n go,s and try to avoid the collusion and sit n crush rewards nit grinders.