Im surprised there arent more people talking about the things that became clear from the swc notice they posted.
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Effective immediately, SealsWithClubs will cease providing Bitcoin poker and will be shutting down all operations except to allow player funds to be withdrawn for a limited period of time. SealsWithClubs is, and has been, completely solvent up to this point in operations.
WE URGE ALL PLAYERS TO WITHDRAW THEIR FUNDS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. PLAYERS SHOULD CEASE ALL ACTIVITY TO THEIR ACCOUNT DEPOSIT ADDRESSSES NOW.
This looks like a panic to where they are washing their hands of the whole site but are giving everyone a short time to get their $. In other words running scared but dont wanna screw people before running off into the hills.
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On approximately February 11th, 2015, several events occurred related to operational security that we consider to indicate SealsWithClubs now operates in a perpetual state of jeopardy. We will not divulge details publically, but they may come to light if any team member chooses to come forward of their own volition at a later date. All player funds and data remain intact and the issue was not software related. We do not believe any of our Bitcoin wallets used in operations to be compromised or lost. However, this event has made the majority vote of the ownership and team agree that shutting down operations is the best move for safety and security purposes.
This contradicts what the @Sealswithclubs Twitter said on Feb 11.
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SealsWithClubs @SealsWithClubs · Feb 11
We're working on getting things back up and running as quickly as possible. Sorry for the downtime, everyone.
SealsWithClubs @SealsWithClubs · Feb 11
We've had a hardware failure and are working to resolve it. ETA 2 hours.
SealsWithClubs @SealsWithClubs · Feb 11
Getting close, everyone. Looking at another 30 mins or so. Sorry for the delays.
SealsWithClubs @SealsWithClubs · Feb 11
We're coming back up right now. Email support for any issues. Thanks for your patience, everyone.
SealsWithClubs @SealsWithClubs · Feb 11
Sorry everyone, there were some issues coming back online and we're going to have to be down for awhile longer.
SealsWithClubs @SealsWithClubs · Feb 12
Sorry we're still down, everyone. We've put up a cashout form for anyone that needs a withdrawal while we're down.
It went from hardware failure and attempt to put it back up to a security issue that scared everyone. Those are 2 very different things. Obv they lied on Feb 11. No idea why they bullshitted us like this but maybe they were considering still running despite the DOJ warnings and then decided against it.
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SealsWithClubs Chairman, Bryan Micon, would like to carry forward the business with his own team (currently settling in Antigua) but the majority ownership cannot guarantee the future security, solvency, and integrity of that operation because there will be no administrative oversight carried over from SealsWithClubs. Members of the SealsWithClubs team and ownership are not ones to lightly endorse anything, not even our own longstanding trustworthy team members, which is why nobody ever makes a sole decision. This dynamic has saved the business several times throughout the years. With Micon operating on his own with his own team, the checks and balances we have kept in place against one another internally for 3+ years will have been removed.
Bolded part prob most important of the whole message. They are saying without saying it that Micon is a fuckup and that the whole thing only worked because there were checks in place to keep him from destroying everything. They are warning you that if you play on the new Micon Seals, you will be dealing with Micon himself and gl with that.
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We've made considerable effort and expense on a SwC 2.0 software package over an extended period of time; we are transferring the rights to that package in full to Micon with the understanding he will remain faithful to the revenue share and licensing agreement SealsWithClubs had with its primary developer(s) that continue work on it. We suspect that the primary developer(s) behind that project will gladly continue working with Micon. Micon will also be provided the swcpoker.eu domain from which we were planning to continue operations from once SwC 2.0 was ready to deploy. As such, we believe Micon will have the resources at his disposal to bring the new site up, backed by the new SwC 2.0 software package, at a rapid pace.
The traditional SwC 1.0 clients and server, based upon the PokerMavens server/client software and protocol, will be retired. There are a number of operational and security considerations to the SwC 1.0 architecture that we do not feel could be properly documented and conveyed to any new team for further operations or development. At this time, those available must focus our efforts elsewhere.
Looks like they were in the process of developing their own proprietary software when the DOJ came down on them. It also looks like they are ditching the mavens software because the guy who owns it is also too scared to have it run Seals anymore, and he wants nothing more to do with it. So to me it looks like they handed over the in progress beta software to Micon and said here ya go, its yours, have fun, just dont run the mavens software anymore.
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While the majority ownership and team wish the best for Micon and his operation, we prioritize remaining faithful to our player's balances and security first and foremost. The SealsWithClubs.eu domain, related social media accounts and support e-mail addresses (for the duration they are still active and being checked) will solely be used for administrating and paying out all remaining player withdrawal requests. In the event the domain is seized or the current withdrawal server is made inoperational during the period withdrawals are still being administrated, a signed GPG message from hdev or xdev will provide definitive instructions for players to continue making withdrawal requests assuming we are still available and able to draft such a message. Any unsigned or invalidly signed instructions by others should not be considered legitimate.
Looks to me like they are trying to make clear that they arent running seals anymore and are complying with the doj warning, and are just paying people with outstanding balances, just like stars did. To make it even clearer to the doj that they are out, they dont want Micon using the domain or social media accounts to promote his new Seals.
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Please note that withdrawals will only be open for a limited period of time and be solely administrated by those uninvolved with Micon's new operation who have been charged historically with maintaining SealsWithClubs solvency. Those able to stick around to process these withdrawals are hoping to commit to at least a few months of availability. We hope that this is sufficient in allowing all players to make their appropriate claims to their funds before they are made unavailable; in addition, we hope our players will do their part by spreading the word.
In line with remaining faithful to player security, we will not be providing Micon or his team with account passwords or authentication information or balance details. We will provide to him account names and the current e-mail addresses associated with them, as well as the krill amount associated to each account. This should allow his team, if they choose, to reserve usernames and e-mail password resets to users as well as honor their Krill amounts. Micon will also be provided the current e-mail address and account names of any affiliate accounts and the accounts associated under them so that he can choose to remain true to the affiliates in the affiliate program that he pioneered through the years for SealsWithClubs.
I reiterate for emphasis: Micon nor his team have not and will not be provided access to SealsWithClubs player funds or account credentials at any time. This limitation is not placed in order to hinder Micon or his operation, but rather, to remain true to the SealsWithClubs administration's commitment to player security and balance integrity to the very end.
The stuff I bolded makes it very clear Micon never had access to the seals funds. They never trusted him with it. Read the above a few times & u will see thats what they are saying. It really looks like Micons role was just the promotional monkey & face of the site while the adults behidn the scenes actually kept shit running.
This was very eye opening for me. I never could figure out how Micon went from continuous fuckup who couldnt do the simplest thing right to managing a smooth & impressive operation like seals. The site looked nice, was run professionally, was reliable, & even fought off attempts to hack it and ddos it. I knew Micon had help but it just seemed the whole thing was too good for an operation he was in charge of. Now we see it did well cuz the heavy lifting was done by responsible people behind the scenes, & they are warning u that if u continue playing there, its going to be all Micon all the time.