That blows my mind, but you're obviously not the only one.Quote:
Originally Posted by DonaldTrumpsHairPiece
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Originally Posted by duped_samaritan
My choice is to trust baby killers or a politician, agreed its a tough call but ya Ill go with the politician in this case, not all but this one yes.
The world has too many fucking people. A great plan is having all these unproductive women spit our more unproductive people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffYes, because there are no unethical doctors out there, nor are there any women who would kill their baby.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jayjami
Let's just make the murder of fully formed human beings legal, and trust that women and doctors will always do the right thing.
In fact, let's just make all forms of murder legal, as long as a doctor signs off on it.
Sounds like a great plan.
What is greater is how guys like you complain about big government this and big government that.
What is your take on the death penalty? I seem to remember you complaining about liberals who are against the death penalty? (Or do I have your opinion wrong?) Where is the consistency in that? Somehow government should decide whom should be killed?
I'll tell you guys where the consistency is in a bit. The consistency isn't about giving a shit about the kids themselves. Druff gets all high and mighty but we goddam know good and well he isn't lining up giving away $ to the poor.
No folks, most of this anti-abortion sentiment is so that people can sit around and look in the mirror and CONSISTENTLY think of how moral and just the are. It is all feedback to themselves. Signaling. All that shit. SJWs do it. Conservatives do it for abortion. Most of them don't really truly give a fuck. If they gave a fuck, they'd be stopping the climate from being wrecked and killing off most bio-diversity. But why aren't they? Oh, because they don't get the positive feedback from their peers, which is really all this anti-abortion shit is about.
GTFO !
why do you think a doctor would refuse to give a late term abortion? and if you want to preclude that, what is wrong with making a law? we do that for every act we want to stopQuote:
Originally Posted by duped_samaritan
Is that a raw statistic, or controlled for income and maritial status?Quote:
Originally Posted by DonaldTrumpsHairPieceI can say I have read that rape and the inclusion of incest were the reason given for approx. 1-1.5% and that stat has as far as I can google has never been debated among pro choice individuals. In fact CNN (liberal obviously) just ran a huge piece on reasons why women have abortions besides rape or incest because they know that argument is weak. They list everything from I didn't want a third kid to my bc failed or I am poor etc. They also claim 1 in 4 women have had one but what they don't tell you is the majority are African American women. So the fight for abortion is really a fight for keeping the black population lower, just sayin these bleeding heart liberals keep eating their own.Quote:
Originally Posted by duped_samaritan
There must be an impartial site with stats, Ill look.
Then why are you against it?Quote:
Originally Posted by DonaldTrumpsHairPiece
Once you have a beating heart you should not be allowed to abort. The only exception is if the woman was raped. There are plenty of manageable ways for consenting adults to use birth control, it's literally inexcusable in my opinion to just throw $500 at a doctor because you're stupid.
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Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied
One is an innocent baby that can't even make decisions yet and the other is being put to death for a horrible crime they chose to commit. Are you that stupid to make the comparison?
Take the stat how youd like, just what I read.Quote:
Originally Posted by MumblesBadlyIs that a raw statistic, or controlled for income and maritial status?Quote:
Originally Posted by DonaldTrumpsHairPiece
Roughly and it varies State to State according to the CDC black women have 4-5 abortions for every white woman's 1.X over the last 17 years I think they said.
I suspect many have them due to economic factors or simply not wanting another child since.
More recent studies show nearly 47% of black pregnancies end in abortion! That is HUUUUUUGE!
Where as whites 16%.
Also 79% of all abortion clinics are located within walking distance to blacks and hispanic's, don't tell me these clinics don't know their customers.
This is why I shake my head at the left, they literally eat and kill their own.
This is actually a discussion some take a look at politically. If no black woman had an abortion the black population in the US may be as high as 36%+ higher than it currently sits which has political/fiscal impact, for the good and bad depends where your heart is.
So, what you are saying in the latter half of your comments here that black women and families would be better off today if those women who chose to have *legal* abortions instead either (1) had children they didn’t want, probably because those additional children would further impoverish them given the welfare reforms in the 90s that essentially gutted welfare benefits for single mothers who had to stay home to take care of their kids, or (2) had illegal abortions that had a much higher risk of death?Quote:
Originally Posted by DonaldTrumpsHairPieceTake the stat how youd like, just what I read.Quote:
Originally Posted by MumblesBadly
Roughly and it varies State to State according to the CDC black women have 4-5 abortions for every white woman's 1.X over the last 17 years I think they said.
I suspect many have them due to economic factors or simply not wanting another child since.
More recent studies show nearly 47% of black pregnancies end in abortion! That is HUUUUUUGE!
Where as whites 16%.
Also 79% of all abortion clinics are located within walking distance to blacks and hispanic's, don't tell me these clinics don't know their customers.
This is why I shake my head at the left, they literally eat and kill their own.
This is actually a discussion some take a look at politically. If no black woman had an abortion the black population in the US may be as high as 36%+ higher than it currently sits which has political/fiscal impact, for the good and bad depends where your heart is.
I see, you are trying to be clever.Quote:
Originally Posted by MumblesBadlySo, what you are saying in the latter half of your comments here that black women and families would be better off today if those women who chose to have *legal* abortions instead either (1) had children they didn’t want, probably because those additional children would further impoverish them given the welfare reforms in the 90s that essentially gutted welfare benefits for single mothers who had to stay home to take care of their kids, or (2) had illegal abortions that had a much higher risk of death?Quote:
Originally Posted by DonaldTrumpsHairPiece
How about we teach safe/protected sex to these communities rather than fund the abortions, how about we don't kill babies for financial reasons especially targeting specific races because they are poor. As far as illegal abortions which risk the mother's life, that is a sad situation but how is it you now ask me to value that life over the babies and feel that makes sense.
Too many holes and selfish excuses involved in killing babies, doesn't look good on ya.
Sorry my man but you will never tax me enough to get me to feel killing babies is ok but nice try.
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Originally Posted by sonatine
So what you're saying is they play to their base, like dems say they care about women yet also champion transgender competition or how they are for the African American yet pass laws that put them in jails, make aborting their babies easier or how they say they don't like walls but live behind them or how socialist policy is good and rich white men are bad yet get wealthy while in office themselves or how collusion is what Trump did but not Obama or Clinton on run ways or via the FBI?
Ill admit there are hypocrites throughout the system but Id like to believe ultimately the people on both sides truly stand for what they say they do and the way a politician who supposedly represents them but rather appears to represent them self does not negate the issue entirely.
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Originally Posted by DonaldTrumpsHairPieceQuote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
So what you're saying is they play to their base, like dems say they care about women yet also champion transgender competition or how they are for the African American yet pass laws that put them in jails, make aborting their babies easier or how they say they don't like walls but live behind them or how socialist policy is good and rich white men are bad yet get wealthy while in office themselves or how collusion is what Trump did but not Obama or Clinton on run ways or via the FBI?
Ill admit there are hypocrites throughout the system but Id like to believe ultimately the people on both sides truly stand for what they say they do and the way a politician who supposedly represents them but rather appears to represent them self does not negate the issue entirely.