I am. Villanova has had an awesome run and blew out Oklahoma but North Carolina is just too strong and fast. Its +2 Villanova. Have to go with North Carolina.
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I am. Villanova has had an awesome run and blew out Oklahoma but North Carolina is just too strong and fast. Its +2 Villanova. Have to go with North Carolina.
SPRINKLE A LITTLE ON THE UNDER WHILE WERE AT IT
The overall talent on UNC seems way stronger but Nova is super hot playing great right now playing fantastic team basketball.
I'd lean towards UNC -2 because of their overall talent but it almost seems too good to be true that is has me feeling some type of way about it.
UNC could create some serious mismatches but they all said a team like Kansas would do the same to Nova and that didn't happen. The way Nova murdered Oklahoma in cold blood, which was a team destroyed them earlier in the year is something I'm having a tough time ignoring.
homer here OBV...
thought the line of the Oklahoma game smelled like shit...that team absolutely embarrassed Villanova in December, yet Nova was a slight favorite...
there is no argument by anybody that UNC isn't the more talented team, yet they're only a 2 point favorite...just smells...I hope I'm right at 1130PM ET...
I need Nova to win to win my pool, handicapme wins if Carolina wins
I bet nova + 275 to win before the final 4
I could hedge my bet.... but hedging bets is for pussies. Hopefully I don't eat my words.
I didQuote:
Originally Posted by lewfather
I hedged a tiny bitQuote:
Originally Posted by big dick
:popcorn
I got them boys at -2 -110. Closed on cantor at -115.
Gl
wow any more bullshit fouls?
hah I actually added more on villanova at +2.5 and +3Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniacI hedged a tiny bitQuote:
Originally Posted by big dick
:popcorn
COME ON NOVA!!! HOLD THIS MOTHERFUCKER!
WHATTTTTTTTTTT?????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!! nOVa plenty of time to score. double pumped a 3. wholy fuck
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Best national title game in years. The last great one that comes to mind is when Butler gave Duke all they could handle.
fuck yeah!!!! god i love that fucking team. tough ass motherfuckers on that team
What a finish.
what a game
Jordan with the fist pump but it didn't matter..
LOL at the Nova guy mopping the floor before the last possession like he felt it would be good karma.
:outright
wow... props to Nova, but the refs in that game were horrible. How do you out rebound a team by 13+ and lose.... right, get bullshit fouls all game.
I didn't watch the first half....but the officials seemed inconsistent in the 2nd half. Some very light foul calls but yet other times they let them play on.Quote:
Originally Posted by handicapme
yeah props to Nova- I actually had money on them -- but that officiating was really bad. ( mainly first half and the foul with 30 seconds to play ) I am interested in what you guys think. I made money on this game but was like what are the zebras doing-
I can now die in peace and spend hundreds of dollars on championship gear...
and I need more fucking bourbon...
Id love to buy you one or 3
typical jay wright team...all the stupid ass analysts never saw that...these guys don't give a mother fuck if theyre guarding some dude 5" taller than them...theyre just gonna outtough 'em, plain and simple...Quote:
Originally Posted by big dick
nova was fortunate that the talent gap was narrow enough for that toughness to bridge the gap...
people underestimate heart.
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Originally Posted by big dick
thanks man...
I had a really long post here but I deleted it. Nova won because they had the refs on there side AND slightly better shooting (esp on the foul line). There wasn't any heart, clearly outsized and out matched. UNC couldn't make up for all the bullshit calls and they lost, but don't give me this heart bullshit or anything. Glad at least some people here won money so that's at least worth something. gg boys, off to bed
That butler duke one was great...the other ones I thought of were 87 Indiana/Syracuse 89 Michigan/Seton Hall and the Duke over Unlv by 2 I can't remember which year. The NC State game obv as well and the Webber Time out gameQuote:
Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker
I lost 2200 on this but I still can appreciate the fact that this was an exciting game. I agree that the calls were inconsistent at best in the 2nd half but that comes with the territory.
Two things I found odd were lol #23 for Nova mopping up the court, like literally he had the mop in his hand, with 4.7 seconds left in a tied national championship game. Hands the towel boy the mop and calmly walks back in the game! Wtf?
When Nova hits the game winner, Wright just started casually walking to mid court with no emotion, no smile, nothing. Like they just beat Weber State in the preseason.
I didn't watch much of the first half. But I watched most of the second. They did miss one bad foul but the north carolina guy rebounded and dunked it so they didn't lose point's there. Other than that one I didn't see them miss any blatant calls. There was one other where the NC guy went up and the nova guy went up and there was body contact but the nova guy went straight up so I can see them letting it go.Quote:
Originally Posted by handicapme
Basketball is the toughest sport to officiate. You can call a foul on every play if you want to or let some of them go in close spots. If a casual fan listened to the NC broadcast with Brandan Haywood (which I did) it was nauseating at how much crying he did throughout about the fouls.
That said I didn't see too much of the first half so maybe it was bad?
Who is in on the South Carolina Dildo Train
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Originally Posted by chinamaniacI didn't watch much of the first half. But I watched most of the second. They did miss one bad foul but the north carolina guy rebounded and dunked it so they didn't lose point's there. Other than that one I didn't see them miss any blatant calls. There was one other where the NC guy went up and the nova guy went up and there was body contact but the nova guy went straight up so I can see them letting it go.Quote:
Originally Posted by handicapme
Basketball is the toughest sport to officiate. You can call a foul on every play if you want to or let some of them go in close spots. If a casual fan listened to the NC broadcast with Brandan Haywood (which I did) it was nauseating at how much crying he did throughout about the fouls.
That said I didn't see too much of the first half so maybe it was bad?
called vertically -- if body contact happens then it is not a foul when jumping vertically ( completely straight up ) -- when you are are coming from the other side of the lane, moving to the ball and contact is made with the body it is a foul
there was a stretch in the first half where there were 8 consecutive fouls called on unc-- whether they were fouls or not can be argued but they were touch fouls
The no call on jackson with a layup at end the half ( he was pushed from behind ) and Villanova scored at the halftime buzzer was big-- 4 point turn around
The call with 30 seconds to play was horrible-- first it was not a foul and second let the kids decide the winner not the ref-- Nova made an incredible shot to win but it might have been for a tie
I have, like most of you, watched hundreds upon hundreds of games but have rarely if ever seen eight straight fouls called on one team-- worked out for me betting but felt it was obvious I got away with something
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Originally Posted by chinamaniac
called vertically -- if body contact happens then it is not a foul when jumping vertically ( completely straight up ) -- when you are are coming from the other side of the lane, moving to the ball and contact is made with the body it is a foul
there was a stretch in the first half where there were 8 consecutive fouls called on unc-- whether they were fouls or not can be argued but they were touch fouls
The no call on jackson with a layup at end the half ( he was pushed from behind ) and Villanova scored at the halftime buzzer was big-- 4 point turn around
The call with 30 seconds to play was horrible-- first it was not a foul and second let the kids decide the winner not the ref-- Nova made an incredible shot to win but it might have been for a tie
I have, like most of you, watched hundreds upon hundreds of games but have rarely if ever seen eight straight fouls called on one team-- worked out for me betting but felt it was obvious I got away with something
Like I said I think the refs played WAY more into the outcome of the game as they should have (more so the first half, but a few the 2nd too), but I'm not petty I lost and I'm glad others on here won money. This will prob be the most amount of money I lost/potentially could have won (due to brackets and non hedging futures) all year, but now that I'm less pissed it was a hell of a 2nd half!
Just wow. What else can you say about the game and Villanova. That double pump shot the guy hit from NC was spectacular. 4.5 seconds was more then enough time and nc pressured without fowling. Its just how it goes sometimes. The point guard for Villanova is tough as nails he got the ball up court with enough time for a good shot. He was really a game changer with making 3s and running the offense like a well oiled Tewdersky at the top of his game. Villanova pulled off 3 tough beats against Kansas , Oklahoma and then against a really strong nc team.