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These guys say they are betting "raw" money. I mean, there's no way in my lifetime or in Bill Gates lifetime they are betting $400 dollars a spin. They are adamant they play with their own money.
it's such a scam and I think Druff needs to scam them out.
I didn't know krypt was trainwreckstv.
I don’t know about rosh but I can tell you 100% train is gambling with his own money and the balances and bets you are being placed are not fake. Train has a huge following on twitch. He averages something like 30k viewers. He had an endorsement deal with cash app worth $1mil+. These big streamers make tons of revenue off subscriptions and ads.
Train is one of, if not the largest player on stake and not only does he gamble big on stream, he does it off stream too. He’s just one of those young Internet personalities with way too much money and a serious gambling problem.
I will say that there is strongly believed to be a lot of fake gambling going on on twitch right now so your accusations are not totally incorrect. You’re just pointing fingers at the wrong two people.
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Originally Posted by HoodedN
im willing to believe this.
my first thought is this is _exactly_ like those fake CoD skin gambling sites streams, where they constantly win $5000 knife skins and shit and spaz out and bank on people fomo'ing into the site (that they run).
but i could see this guy just being an actual 44 caliber douche with a ton of cash.
ive actually hung out with someone IRL who did this shit back in 2011, familiar name on these forums too. he absolutely demolished PP early on for a massive, massive roll and then went into rakeback biz and would literally sit in his apartment playing internet slot machines for $200 a hand until dawn while fielding the occasional tech support escalation. i could not believe my fucking eyes, i had no idea people actually did that, but yeah i can confirm personally that this shit is a thing.
These guys, including train have special affiliate perks and sponsorship deals.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoodedN
Technically he can say it's raw but he gets a sick amount of money to stream on Stake along with a huge rakeback/affiliate commission deal. We are talking about heaps of money here that basically eliminate house edge or put it nicely in your favor if you do it right.
Besides all of that Stake has a daily reloads program based mostly off total wagered taking in account a bit profit/losses as well and train from what I've been told has claimed his on stream plenty of times it's 35-45k range which is crazy but he's wagering millions a day firing $1k a spin for hours and hours on/off stream on top of the other special perks I mentioned that he gets.
The expression "fake money" gets thrown around all of the time in the slots community. Some people are on zero risk "house fills" where they keep a percentage if they win and others like train are paid a salary plus other increased incentives giving them an advantage due to them having a large audience. The zero risk guys will fills are more "fake money" than what train is doing because he don't have to fire off as much as he does with the salary they give him.
While sites pay people like train to stream gambling on their site they don't tell someone they have to play slots at nosebleed stakes so some people do take risks with money they are given whether it be to provide content for their viewers or the person just being a true degenerate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Qblz_wh_0Q
Train is ok. He doesn't come from money. All he has he made out of streaming related things. It's safe to say he has some issues.
Good post. I agree with all of this. I forgot to mention the affiliate deal train has with stake. He also gets a kickback from them on losses by any player who signs up with his affiliate code.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeerAndPokerThese guys, including train have special affiliate perks and sponsorship deals.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoodedN
Technically he can say it's raw but he gets a sick amount of money to stream on Stake along with a huge rakeback/affiliate commission deal. We are talking about heaps of money here that basically eliminate house edge or put it nicely in your favor if you do it right.
Besides all of that Stake has a daily reloads program based mostly off total wagered taking in account a bit profit/losses as well and train from what I've been told has claimed his on stream plenty of times it's 35-45k range which is crazy but he's wagering millions a day firing $1k a spin for hours and hours on/off stream on top of the other special perks I mentioned that he gets.
The expression "fake money" gets thrown around all of the time in the slots community. Some people are on zero risk "house fills" where they keep a percentage if they win and others like train are paid a salary plus other increased incentives giving them an advantage due to them having a large audience. The zero risk guys will fills are more "fake money" than what train is doing because he don't have to fire off as much as he does with the salary they give him.
While sites pay people like train to stream gambling on their site they don't tell someone they have to play slots at nosebleed stakes so some people do take risks with money they are given whether it be to provide content for their viewers or the person just being a true degenerate.
The fills you’re talking about is what most people refer to as the “fake gambling”. There is a group who streams on twitch under the name “Xposed” who get unlimited 20k fills. Not from stake but from roobet. Same thing pretty much.
The roobet sponsored guys (Xposed and Stevewillsendit aka Stevewilldoit(successful youtuber) are gambling risk free most of he time at least on that site.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoodedNGood post. I agree with all of this. I forgot to mention the affiliate deal train has with stake. He also gets a kickback from them on losses by any player who signs up with his affiliate code.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker
The fills you’re talking about is what most people refer to as the “fake gambling”. There is a group who streams on twitch under the name “Xposed” who get unlimited 20k fills. Not from stake but from roobet. Same thing pretty much.
This is a space I've followed for a while now (I am admittedly a degen to some extent) and would never gamble on roobet since they lower the RTP on many slots where providers allow them to change it by 2-2.5% range.
That lowered RTP alone going from average 96.5% rtp down to 94%ish range is a significant edge for the casino and likely paying for them to give these guys unlimited 10k fills with cashout caps to smash those games if they bring in enough new depositing players.
For streamer perks discussion this guy breaks it down admitting he will do anything for money I'd never watch him he's a goon but seen him on twitch before and I'll give him credit for bringing some light into what is going on.
He says got offered 35k an hour with 20k average viewership where train imo would/gets more but capped after so many hours is my guess.
He gets into it a few minutes into the clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJyugc_aCPc
so gonna need some education here...
tuned in to some trainwrecks today...i think in the time i had him on in the background he blew through about $500K (give or take $100K or so)...heard him say he was down like $3M in the last week...
i understand he has deals with whatever casino he's on, etc, but there is no fucking way he can afford to gamble like that unless he is worth some mid 8 figure-9 figure amount...is that even possible for a twitch streamer?
watching him doing in game gambling on rust...this dude is a fucking hardcore degen the likes of which ive never even remotely seen before...
he also seems to 'juice up' before every slot bonus he initiates...gonna guess that's a line or two of coke...
i will say his handle is apt...this ain't gonna end well....
So what your saying he is the second coming of Neverwin??Quote:
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dont forget the meth and the ghost sightings lolQuote:
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Originally Posted by HoodedN
im willing to believe this.
my first thought is this is _exactly_ like those fake CoD skin gambling sites streams, where they constantly win $5000 knife skins and shit and spaz out and bank on people fomo'ing into the site (that they run).
but i could see this guy just being an actual 44 caliber douche with a ton of cash.
ive actually hung out with someone IRL who did this shit back in 2011, familiar name on these forums too. he absolutely demolished PP early on for a massive, massive roll and then went into rakeback biz and would literally sit in his apartment playing internet slot machines for $200 a hand until dawn while fielding the occasional tech support escalation. i could not believe my fucking eyes, i had no idea people actually did that, but yeah i can confirm personally that this shit is a thing.
I’ve watched an unhealthy amount of train admittedly. My educated guess would place his net worth in the high 7 figure range. The reason he is not afraid to lose money is because he has a “way out”, alluding to his sponsorships with G-Fuel, Cash App and a few other large companies. It’s something he references often during his live streams while advising his audience not to gamble. He is unquestionably the biggest degen I have ever seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by GambleBotsChafedPenis
Look I’ll break it down for you fellas: if you’re sitting at home watching a stream of somebody gambling at a casino you’re a dork you have to close your computer and head outside to get some sun.