They were talking about doing this on radio, thought it would be fun...
Anyone want to contribute? Vwls?
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They were talking about doing this on radio, thought it would be fun...
Anyone want to contribute? Vwls?
This is hilarious. It's like they grabbed a random (and terrible) picture of Annie Duke, and made a baseball card out of it. They even drew her can of Diet Coke on the table.
FAIL
Unbelievable.
Anyway, the problem with a 52-card deck of scammers & cheats is coming up with enough names and pictures.
Post all the names you can think of here.
Annie Duke:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_15zlLtJJNU...-duke_2677.jpg
Erick Lindgren:
Peter DC aka Peter Falcone aka Mike Esposito:
http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/att...0&d=1334620145
Scott Tom:
Russ Hamilton:
http://www.gulfcoastpoker.net/russ%20hamilton.jpg
Howard Lederer:
Ray Bitar:
Jose "Girah" Macedo:
Nick "StoxTrader" Grudzien:
http://media.intellipoker.com/images...udzien_ip1.jpg
- That's all I can think of off the top of my head
I really like this idea and would like to get some of these decks produced.
I'll throw out some names. Feel free to add your own. If the person isn't well known enough, please explain why they should be in this deck.
Valid reasons include:
- Scamming people in poker
- Heavy involvement with companies that scammed people in poker
- Known or highly suspected poker cheaters
The lesser-known ones will be the lower cards, while the big ones (like Russ Hamilton) will be the aces.
AP Group:
Scott Tom
AJ Green
Oscar Hilt-Tatum
Brent Beckley
Mark Seif
UB Group:
Russ Hamilton
Annie Duke
Mansour Matloubi
Greg Pierson
Paul Leggett
Joe Sebok
Prahald Friedman
"Chief" Joe Norton
Full Tilt:
Ray Bitar
Howard Lederer
Chris Ferguson
Rafe Furst
Epic Fail Poker League:
Annie Duke (already listed above)
Jeffrey Pollack
Girah Cheating Scandal:
Jose "Girah" Macedo
Haseeb "DogIsHead" Qureshi
Jennifer Larson (Lock CEO)
Stoxtrader Collusion Scandal:
Nick "Stoxtrader" Grudzien
Rob "Kinectica" Papp
Multi-Accounters:
Josh "JJProdigy" Fields
Sorel Mizzi
Chris "BluffMagCV" Vaughn
Justin Bonomo
Nick "GBMantis" Niergarth
Brian Townsend
Mark "TheV0id" Teltscher
Live cheaters:
Ali Tekintamgac (Partouche poker tour cheater)
Men "The Master" Nguyen (alleged chip dumping in the '90s)
Chronic borrowers/bettors who misrepresent their situation when taking loans/action:
David "Chino" Rheem
Erick Lindgren
TJ Cloutier
Pokerspot Fiasco:
Dutch Boyd
Poker Charity scam:
Jack Walls, UCARE
Scammers who have targeted poker community:
Peter Falcone
Please add more!
you could use the many faces of Duke shadyness (UB, Epic Fail, im sure there are more) as the Q's in the deck
darren woods
Lock poker people for their casino rb fraud
Proofz
How about the payment processing shadiness of Daniel Tzvetkoff, Curtis Pope & John Scott Clark?
JSearles is a scamming faggot.
:stakemebro
if you can end up producing something like this i would be interested in buying a pack, am sure others would be.
scammer on front andpokerfraudalert.com on the back would be the shit
http://8020.photos.everywheremag.com...109_3038_m.jpg
dont forget the jsearles and templar cards
jsearles, I have to think you know what the word "include" means. Or perhaps logic is not one of your strong suits?
No more jsearles discussion in this thread, please. He's not going on the cards, for obvious reasons.
But I'm serious about actually doing this. If we can get 52 names, we can start collecting pictures for artwork, do the rest of the design, and I will get these printed.
I want these to be something that appeal to the poker community in general (not just PFA), because I think these have the potential to draw people over here and get attention for the site.
In all seriousness, Druff, your 'criteria for inclusion' needs to be pretty airtight and defined. Scammers, Cheats, Liars, etc. And a simple FACTUAL explanation of why they are being included would help. (include only stuff they've confessed to, admitted to, been convicted of, etc.) I'd hate to see PFA (you) have to deal with the hassle of a defamation lawsuit from someone claiming their name is being unfairly tarnished.
lol at the scamming faggot who cant tell the difference between then and than talking about reading comprehension.
This guy has been involved in some shady shit over the years.
I would drop Bonomo from the list and add an extra Russ Hamilton card. All Justin did was the same shit many other players were doing at the time. It was a growing pain caused by the cardrooms not doing their job correctly.
What did Mark Seif do that Phil Helmuth didn't?
There was also that Euro high stakes guy that used software to steal millions from 'friends'
Add a card for Harrah's for successfully lobbying gov't to kick out existing internet poker while at the same time building its own platform to provide it.
DOJ
If you need more how about the superusing accts: nionio, potripper, greycat
Does Teddy "The Iceman" Monroe get the deuce of spades due to his "coinflipping" scam that got him 86'ed from the Bellagio poker room a few years back?
didnt marty roll someone for 10 bones once we got to have a jewdonk card in the deck
Deal,
I disagree re Bonomo, but could be convinced re Seif. His abrasive personality notwithstanding, I don't recall any confirmed scam that is directly related to him personally. (maybe my memory isn't so good tho!)
I think the list is biased towards people you don't care for. How can you put Prahlad or Sebok on a scammer card????? How is Annie Duke included in UB and not Phil Hellmuth??? Jungleman is just as culpable in the Girah fiasco, and how is Lock poker responsible for him teamviewing other people and PokerStrategy not?????
Hoestly if you're serious about this you have to do it right, and not just throw on people with bad reputations or that you don't personally care for. If you really are going to print these up you would be opening yourself up to lawsuits in some of these situations, not just for libel but if you are gonig to use them as promotional products or sell them you need rights to use their image
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Originally Posted by DanDruff
how about we can get a compromise here and just have jsearles as the joker
i think Annie Duke should be the joker. just sayin
just because most people throw them away like trash.
Would you include politicians like Bill Frist and Spencer Bachus. What Frist did with the UIGEA was as crooked as anyone else mentioned.
I hate to bring up a sore subject but Micon needs to be considered for inclusion not because of the stuff that went down with DD between Druff and Drexel and whomeverelse but the fact is the dude has been scammy and scummy. This bitcoin crap is nothing but one big scam he's pitching like it or not. Also what about the rumors regarding Dustin NWP doing some questionable actions regarding borrowing funds and what not.
I've Been trying to learn Photoshop for a few weeks now, this is good practice
Here is the thread about the guy who's name I forgot, somehow still on front page of NVG: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...rojan-1120121/
Can't forget Johnathan "IamHIV" Drane, WSOP buyin scammer and accused pedo.
BTW, I do realize that there are some potential legal issues with releasing a deck like this, including accusations of libel and unauthorized use of likeness. I would obviously have to research these issues before actually doing this project.
If you want help narrowing a list down, or need some names let me know.
On the libel front I think you would have to include a very precise account of why they are being included, what they have admitted to or been accused of -- the word alleged will likely be your best friend here ;)
Might I also suggest calling it a "Fraud" deck, which would let you include people like Sebok/Prahlad/Annie Duke
I realize Mark Seif is an arrogant prick but I've never heard of anything sticking to him in the AP scandal. As far as I remember, nothing was even remotely proven against him. I could be wrong of course.