Life is short, have an affair! ... and then get outed by hackers (AshleyMadison hacked)

http://gizmodo.com/hackers-threaten-...ium=socialflow

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The hackers claim to have access to all 40 million customer records of AshleyMadison.com (a site for married people to cheat), and says they will release everything if the company does not shut down immediately.

Apparently what angered the hackers was not the basic infidelity concept of AshleyMadison, but a scummy feature on there called "Full Delete", which costs users $19. It supposedly wipes the record of your account's existence from their servers (why isn't this free?), but in reality it just removes it from public view, and they keep your personal info on file.

The hackers apparently discovered the deception of "Full Delete", and then decided to issue this ultimatum regarding shutting down or all information being released.

Pretty amazing that so many married people were so gullible as to give their real info to a site like AshleyMadison. How hard is it to buy a prepaid credit card, register it in a fake name, and pay for AshleyMadison that way?

Will be interested to see where this goes...

gg IPO.

this is going to be a blood bath.

Doesn't surprise me that a website like AshleyMadison has no real security.

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Ashley Madison is the world's leading married dating service for discreet encounters
Trusted Security Award
100% DISCREET SERVICE
SSL Secure Site

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Over 37,565,000 anonymous members!

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:facepalm

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I wouldnt discount their security here without some indication that the compromise was a no-brainer. They were almost certainly PCI level 1 so they probably had at least quarterly third party pen tests done. The sad truth is that one doesnt need to have bad security to get popped these days. If I had to guess, Id say they probably got phished with one of the HT o-days. Pure unadulterated conjecture of course but Occams Razor and all that.

So the hackers are the good guys here?

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Originally Posted by herbertstemple

So the hackers are the good guys here?

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Over 37 million say no.

I read that they believe its an inside job, and that they think they know who hacked them, as they believe its someone who was given access at one point to the system (for them to do contract work).

They named the person (Trevor?) who was responsible for the security.


Im curious as to what the lawsuits will be.

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Originally Posted by DRK Star

I read that they believe its an inside job, and that they think they know who hacked them, as they believe its someone who was given access at one point to the system (for them to do contract work).

They named the person (Trevor?) who was responsible for the security.


Im curious as to what the lawsuits will be.

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This actually makes more sense to me than my previous theory.

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Originally Posted by simpdog

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Originally Posted by herbertstemple

So the hackers are the good guys here?

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Over 37 million say no.

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But over 37 million spouses say yes.

Anyone that thinks that the hackers are the good guys would have made an excellent Nazi.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

http://gizmodo.com/hackers-threaten-...ium=socialflow

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/...7808535656.jpg

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/...8059177832.png

:what

The hackers claim to have access to all 40 million customer records of AshleyMadison.com (a site for married people to cheat), and says they will release everything if the company does not shut down immediately.

Apparently what angered the hackers was not the basic infidelity concept of AshleyMadison, but a scummy feature on there called "Full Delete", which costs users $19. It supposedly wipes the record of your account's existence from their servers (why isn't this free?), but in reality it just removes it from public view, and they keep your personal info on file.

The hackers apparently discovered the deception of "Full Delete", and then decided to issue this ultimatum regarding shutting down or all information being released.

Pretty amazing that so many married people were so gullible as to give their real info to a site like AshleyMadison. How hard is it to buy a prepaid credit card, register it in a fake name, and pay for AshleyMadison that way?

Will be interested to see where this goes...

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Tell us, Druff.

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Originally Posted by ToasterOven

Anyone that thinks that the hackers are the good guys would have made an excellent Nazi.

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More like MI-5, but hey, who's splittin hairs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_machine

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Originally Posted by abrown83

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Originally Posted by simpdog

Over 37 million say no.

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But over 37 million spouses say yes.

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Ones with no prenups or want out of their marriage or already suspect something is going on.

But the others, do they really want to know?

who is willing to bet at least 1 mil of the 37 mil are bottomset accounts that he forgot the password to?

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Originally Posted by anonamoose

who is willing to bet at least 1 mil of the 37 mil are bottomset accounts that he forgot the password to?

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I would go so far as to say that 30% of the accounts are guys making fake female accounts to entice lonely guys to sign up using their affiliate link.

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Originally Posted by ToasterOven

Anyone that thinks that the hackers are the good guys would have made an excellent Nazi.

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Good guys? No. But if the reports of the $19 "Full Delete" scam are true, then AshleyMadison deserves everything it gets.

The only people deserving of sympathy here are the members who might be outed. One can rationalize that these people deserve to be outed for cheating on their spouses, but that's really their own personal issues, and should not be outed by unrelated third parties simply to punish the company facilitating the hookups. This is especially true because the hackers are supposedly doing this out of outrage about AshleyMadison's customers being cheated, so why hurt those victims again (and much worse) in order to supposedly defend them?

Furthermore, I'm sure some of the members of AshleyMadison are using the site as part of an open marriage arrangement, and it's especially not fair to those people that their names get outed to the public.

If reported by the hackers correctly, the $19 Full Delete thing was an outright scam. It's bad enough that they are charging scared and regretful members $19 to remove their info. This should definitely be free, and is exploitative. This practice isn't much better than those scumbags who put up "arrest records" websites and then extort $200 out of people to have their info removed. But to charge the $19 and not actually fully delete the information as promised is outright fraud.

So if the hackers are simply threatening to post the customer records, with no actual plans to do so, then they aren't that bad.

If they are going to go through with their threat, then they are causing way too much collateral damage, and I agree they could not be considered "good guys".

Of course, it's also possible that this isn't about the $19 Full Delete thing at all, but rather that is being used as an excuse (even a true one) to get revenge upon AshleyMadison for other, less noble reasons.

Does anyone have a link to the article about it possibly being an inside job?

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

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Originally Posted by ToasterOven

Anyone that thinks that the hackers are the good guys would have made an excellent Nazi.

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Good guys? No. But if the reports of the $19 "Full Delete" scam are true, then AshleyMadison deserves everything it gets.

The only people deserving of sympathy here are the members who might be outed. One can rationalize that these people deserve to be outed for cheating on their spouses, but that's really their own personal issues, and should not be outed by unrelated third parties simply to punish the company facilitating the hookups. This is especially true because the hackers are supposedly doing this out of outrage about AshleyMadison's customers being cheated, so why hurt those victims again (and much worse) in order to supposedly defend them?

Furthermore, I'm sure some of the members of AshleyMadison are using the site as part of an open marriage arrangement, and it's especially not fair to those people that their names get outed to the public.

If reported by the hackers correctly, the $19 Full Delete thing was an outright scam. It's bad enough that they are charging scared and regretful members $19 to remove their info. This should definitely be free, and is exploitative. This practice isn't much better than those scumbags who put up "arrest records" websites and then extort $200 out of people to have their info removed. But to charge the $19 and not actually fully delete the information as promised is outright fraud.

So if the hackers are simply threatening to post the customer records, with no actual plans to do so, then they aren't that bad.

If they are going to go through with their threat, then they are causing way too much collateral damage, and I agree they could not be considered "good guys".

Of course, it's also possible that this isn't about the $19 Full Delete thing at all, but rather that is being used as an excuse (even a true one) to get revenge upon AshleyMadison for other, less noble reasons.

Does anyone have a link to the article about it possibly being an inside job?

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That's who I meant.

20 bucks to delete info is amazing, and totally scummy. But a seriously great way to make some money on a site like that, if you don't mind spending eternity in hell.

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Originally Posted by simpdog

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Originally Posted by herbertstemple

So the hackers are the good guys here?

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Over 37 million say no.

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Have to be careful with these sites.

You show up for your hot date then a few hours later you wake up in a bathtub full of ice water short a kidney.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ion-users.html

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Originally Posted by DRK Star

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ion-users.html

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consider when reading pieces like that, that breach insurance generally has a 'mistake' exemption; if youre site gets compromised because youre a fuckup, your insurance wont cover the triage/recovery/fines. so it may be worth millions to them to portray this as an insider job, depending on their degree of negligence.