Gookie's Horse Race Thread ( All Bets ) Follow The Insanity

So as some of you have showed interest in horse racing I have decided to start a separate thread in Flying Stupidity .

I put a lot of work in to my wagers and possibly I can turn some of the horse race guys on to some winning tickets . I will post my wagers in this thread when they come up and keep an accurate record of all wagers . This is not for the faint of heart . The variance in Horse Racing is vast. I suggest if you want to mirror my tickets do so with caution and within your bankroll. As of 5/22/18 I am focused on Louisiana Tracks . For the most part Evangeline Downs . I will post my thoughts on the cards I am wagering on and the tickets that I create . Feel free to talk about other races or tracks and lets keep the topic to Horse racing only.

I know there are some hardcore race guys in these forums . Lets make some money . I am starting with a bankroll of $5,000.00 I am mainly doing this project to see if I can make more money by the end of the year in Horse Race wagers then playing pathetic poker games at my local casino . Background on me. I have been retired since I was 28 years old . So for the last 20 years I have been playing poker and making various wagers . Since 2010 I have mainly been focused on Horse racing making poker a second priority . I have had two losing years between poker and horses in the last 8 years. I live in a condo in Northern Arizona that I own and frequently make trips to Nevada for various poker tournaments and cash games . I am hoping by the end of the summer to move back to Nevada . Between the vast knowledge that I have witnessed on this forum over the years between NWP, DD and PFA there have been many opportunities to make money . I hope to contribute in a small way to giving everybody a chance with this thread.


I have a wager today at Louisiana Downs that I will post after the scratches and changes have come in.

Also a heads up . There will be a Horse racing at Canterbury on Friday 5/25/18 that I will be giving out . I have been waiting for this horse to run back at Evangeline but he got shipped to Minnesota and is entered . Also Fridays card at Evangeline is shaping up to be a great Pick 4 opportunity from races 6-9 . More on that as Friday approaches .


Lets get this going
Good Luck
Gookie

Bet all you got AGAINST Justify in the Belmont. He faded BIGLY down the stretch at the Preakness, he would have lost if the race was one more furlong. He'll never get there at 1.5 miles. I am making a 4 figure bet in an Exacta box and he won't be in it.

You heard if here first.

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Bet all you got AGAINST Justify in the Belmont. He faded BIGLY down the stretch at the Preakness, he would have lost if the race was one more furlong. He'll never get there at 1.5 miles. I am making a 4 figure bet in an Exacta box and he won't be in it.

You heard if here first.

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Draymond: I am not big on the Triple Crown races but have paid very much attention to it this year. I agree that Justify is not a freak or a superhorse yet why was I very happy to see him squeak out a win in the Preakness? The reason you just stated GREED!!!!



Some of my biggest scores have come in years past when a horse fails to win the Belmont after completing the triple crown double . Birdstone was the best when he zoomed past Smarty Jones but there have been many others . The public and the media are going to drive Justify's odds into oblivion and if History and his physical appearance are correct we will profit from that. I have mentioned this in other threads on this forum. I do have a horse that I really like in the Belmont if he is entered and I do not stand alone on that opinion as I have already read some comments from some handicappers that are much more skilled then myself. Justify reminds me more recently of another failed triple crown hype horse his name was California Chrome . or how about this familiar read With over a half-mile to run in the historic longest jewel of racing's Triple Crown, jockey Kent Desormeaux stepped on Big Brown's pedal only to find out he had passed the last gas station miles ago. Shockingly, an apparently uninjured Big Brown was slowed to a hand gallop and finished last in the field of nine. One last comment for the poker players if you can read body language you should take a look at Mike Smith before the Preakness . His face showed complete worry he was not confident that day . Also we can react to Baffert constantly being really surprised so far about the performance of this colt. It all adds up to one big Excuse come June 9th . We can only hope he stays healthy enough to get jammed into Big Sandys starting gate for his date with his fate.

I agree 100% with your wager and theory

Good Luck
Gookie

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Also a heads up . There will be a Horse racing at Canterbury on Friday 5/25/18 that I will be giving out . I have been waiting for this horse to run back at Evangeline but he got shipped to Minnesota and is entered . Also Fridays card at Evangeline is shaping up to be a great Pick 4 opportunity from races 6-9 . More on that as Friday approaches .

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Awesome, me and my buddy planned a trip out to Canterbury Fri. for live racing. I know nothing about horse racing and will be betting the farm on your horse:)

Scratches and changes seem to be in so here is todays Pick 4 play


On a normal Tuesday I would be doing research and getting ready for Wednesday's card but a few races at Louisiana Downs have peaked my interest today . I have put together a pick four ticket starting in Race #4


Race #4 : I truly wanted this race to produce my single but it is just way to close to have a single and since I am going for some value in future races I had to go two deep here . Both horses in here finished 2nd in there debuts and seem to stand tops over the rest of the field since these are 3 yr old fillies and fillies love to bounce I am hoping one of them see's the winners circle here today .

Leg #1 = #2 and #4


Race #5 : This is a interesting race and I am hoping they bet the hell out of #6 . I have secret weapon in this leg and again I am attempting to beat what I think will be a heavy favorite in here . If I had to single in this race it would be the #8 But I just cant risk it so I am 3 deep in here . I will say the #8 if better then 5-1 is worth a Win and Place wager . This horse comes out of a key race run a few weeks ago at Evangeline . The #7 gets into the ticket based on two factors . First time out a huge win and Gerard Melancon traveled to ride the horse . Gmoney as he is known is the top turf rider at Evangeline Downs

Leg #2 = #1 and #7 and #8


Race #6 : Here is a classic example of a horse that will take tons of money #4 . I can't leave him off the ticket but he is going to be over bet and very vulnerable . The #5 in here has a bad habit at the start where he likes to hesitate and throw the rider . This happened in his last race . The #3 comes out of a key race and could upset the apple cart at a big price would consider a win and place bet here as well on #3. The reason I am not keen on the #4 is this will be his very first time facing open company and older horses .

Leg#3 = #3 and #4 and #5


Race #7 : Another race where the ML Fav is very vulnerable and usually the worst written race on the card . I am hitting the All button here because if we are still alive and we managed to get our value horses home there is potential for a big score if something crazy happens in the 7th race .

Leg #4 = ALL BUTTON



So the ticket will read

2-4

1-7-8

3-4-5

1-2-3-4-5-6-7-9

I will be playing this as a .50 cent base wager costing $72.00


Good Luck
Gookie

Bets are in my total investment for the day is $198.60

I ended up making a jackpot pick 6 ticket and also a jackpot pick 5 ticket as well . Since you have to be the only person in the world to hold a winning ticket I refrained from posting those. :) . I also played a straight double in races #1 and #2 combo numbers #4 and #4 .


One other side Pick 4 at Thistledowns

Race #5 ---#2 and #5

Race #6---#2 and #3 and #7

Race #7----#3 and #7

Race #8---#1 and#2 and #4 and #7 and #8

Cost at a .50 cent base wager $30.00


Good Luck
Gookie

Proof of Purchase :




Even the best of plans go up in smoke.


Starting Bankroll $5,000.00

Todays Losses $198.60

Ending Bankroll $4,801.40


Evangeline Tomorrow .


Recap of the day : Just bad. None of my horses where ever truly in contention . Variance is a killer LOL




Good Luck
Gookie

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Also a heads up . There will be a Horse racing at Canterbury on Friday 5/25/18 that I will be giving out . I have been waiting for this horse to run back at Evangeline but he got shipped to Minnesota and is entered . Also Fridays card at Evangeline is shaping up to be a great Pick 4 opportunity from races 6-9 . More on that as Friday approaches .

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Awesome, me and my buddy planned a trip out to Canterbury Fri. for live racing. I know nothing about horse racing and will be betting the farm on your horse:)

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If i was to bet a horse to win friday at Canterbury park please pm me. I would not be mad if you were wrong, nor would I say otherwise. PM me.

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Awesome, me and my buddy planned a trip out to Canterbury Fri. for live racing. I know nothing about horse racing and will be betting the farm on your horse:)

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If i was to bet a horse to win friday at Canterbury park please pm me. I would not be mad if you were wrong, nor would I say otherwise. PM me.

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PM sent

No time today for a write up on each horse but I have 2 small pick 4 plays at Evangeline Downs


As follows


Early Pick 4

Race 1 = #1

Race 2 = #1 and #5 and #7

Race 3 = #2 and #4

Race 4 = #1 and #6 and #7 and #8

.50 cent base wager = $12.00




Late Pick 4

Race 6 = #2 and #7

Race 7 = #5

Race 8 = #5 and #7 and #8 and #9

Race 9 = #4 and #5 and #6 and #9

.50 base wager = $16.00



Good Luck
Gookie

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Originally Posted by Gookieheimowitz

No time today for a write up on each horse but I have 2 small pick 4 plays at Evangeline Downs


As follows


Early Pick 4

Race 1 = #1

Race 2 = #1 and #5 and #7

Race 3 = #2 and #4

Race 4 = #1 and #6 and #7 and #8

.50 cent base wager = $12.00




Late Pick 4

Race 6 = #2 and #7

Race 7 = #5

Race 8 = #5 and #7 and #8 and #9

Race 9 = #4 and #5 and #6 and #9

.50 base wager = $16.00



Good Luck
Gookie

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Thanks. I bet your picks on Bovada.

This may have posted on here before but if so haven't seen it. Warning, it's a long read, but well worth it in my opinion. Figured it fit in the theme of this thread. Hope you don't mind Gookie.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...se-racing-code

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This may have posted on here before but if so haven't seen it. Warning, it's a long read, but well worth it in my opinion. Figured it fit in the theme of this thread. Hope you don't mind Gookie.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...se-racing-code

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Yep great article. We discussed this in the last HR thread . Thanks for posting it here . I am sure some guys missed it and it is a very good read.

Proof of purchase:

Today was a not so interesting card but I managed to put together some short price play tickets . Neither hit but not a big deal on the loss end. Also note in todays early pick 4 due to a scratch in the 3rd race I had to switch my ticket around a little .


NOTE: Tomorrow 5-24-18 There will be no plays as I cant find any really good spots to put into a ticket .

Fridays card is a Pick4 and Pick 3 players dream and I will be putting a decent amount into this card.







Starting Bankroll = $4,801.40

Todays Loss = $26.50

New Bankroll = $4,774.90


Good Luck
Gookie

i've had 5 figure scores before. but the belmont stakes when lemon drop kid won was a nice one that i fondly remember.

jose santos was the man. loved that jock

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ0Q4F1VV0M

One of the great races of all time. Cigar nailed his 14th win in a row which will likely never happen again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER5-uGMCQHo

Today is Friday 5-25-2018 and as promised it's a great day for racing. I am hoping that it does not rain at Evangeline Downs today but there is a 45% chance . Here are my plays for the day .


First up is an angle I have used for the past 12 years and I will list all horses . Quarter Horse racing is quick and exciting . I only follow one trainer and he is currently producing a +43 ROI with two year olds . I usually will bet every horse he has entered and show a profit . Today is the trials for the Ruidoso Futurity at Ruidoso Downs . So here are the Picks . Again these are all by the same trainer .

Ruidoso Downs Post Time 11:00 Am PST Ongoing updated results

Race #1 = 6 Finished out of money
Race #3 = 6 Finished out of money
Race #4 = 9 Finished out of money
Race #5 = 2 Winner at odds of 46-1 paying $94.20-----$34.00-----$15.40
Race #6 = 7 Finished 3rd Paying $2.40
Race #8 = 4 Finished out of money
Race #10= 4 Finished out of money
Race #11= 6 Finished 2nd Paying $12.80-----$4.80
Race #12= 5 Finished out of money
Race #13= 5 Finished out of money
Race #15= 5 Finished out of money
Race #16= 5 Finished 2nd Paying $19.60-----$9.60

Sunray Park Post Time 2:00pm PST

Race #1 = 5 Finished out of money

Race #3 = 1 Finished out of money


I was talking all week about Evangeline Downs card for today and how it had the potential to produce huge pick 4 payoff given the races are full in the Late Pick 4 with low class races . The late pick 4 starts in Race 6-9 .


First lets try and hit the early pick 4 (NOTE IF IT RAINS AND RACES COME OFF TURF . WAGER AT YOUR OWN RISK . THESE PLAYS DO NOT GIVE CONSIDERATION FOR A WET OR MUDDY SURFACE)



ATTENTION TRACK CAME UP SLOPPY ( ALL BETS ARE OFF FOR EVANGELINE DOWNS TONIGHT ) PART OF THE GAME I GUESS :(

Evangeline Downs Plays Post time 3:50 PST

Race #1 . In this MSW 5 furlong dash on the turf while has the potential for an upset I am going with #4 D'Rock . This horse ships in from Gulfstream and is way better then the 8-1 ML Suggests including the red hot Wally Rodriguez in the saddle . I am also including #8 Good Moody Blues a first time starter by Star Guitar who is producing winners every week as a sire .

Race #1 Leg One = #4 and #8


Race #2 . Low level claiming event for non winners of 3 races lifetime . This race produced my single for the sequence . Ching Ching #8 . Horse has beaten most of these in here and given that it is a fairly weak bunch and I need a single this was the best option . There are a couple with a shot but I will roll with the Ching.

Race #2 Leg Two = #8


Race #3 . Maiden Special Weights 7 Furlongs . Small field of seven set to go here and if we are still alive we don't want to miss in this leg . I worked backwards here and eliminated what I think are the horses that can't win this race and ended up five deep here .

Race #3 Leg Three = #1 and #3 and #4 and #6 and #7


Race #4 . Claiming event for $15,000.00 on the Turf at 7.5 Furlongs . In this race I am simply hitting the ALL button hoping something crazy happens . The sequence itself is not super strong and could produce some low value but I simply can't separate in here . 7.5 Furlongs is and odd mix of sprinters and routers and usually this distance anything can happen .


Race #4 Leg Four = ALL


Early Pick four ticket will read

Race #1 = #4 and #8
Race #2 = #8
Race #3 = #1 and #3 and #4 and #6 and #7
Race #4 = ALL

Cost of ticket for a .50 base wager is $45.00



Next up is the Late Pick four and wow does this have potential to produce some BOMBS


Race #6 . Bottom level 4k claiming race non winners of 2 races in a year . In any pick 4 ticket you must identify horses that can over power the competition . This race has 12 runners going a mile and I have to go 4 deep here. I would go 7 deep but financially it makes no sense . My top pick in this race is #5 Udoknowjack but I am also putting in #4 and #6 and #1 . The outside horses 10-12 are going to take some money but ultimately these type of races are won by horses that can get position inside and save ground on the far turn.


Race #6 Leg One = #1 and #4 and #5 and #6

Race#7 . Another bottom level claiming race but a little worse then race 6 . Here we find a field of 11 horses who have never won 2 races lifetime going 6 furlongs . Another tough race that could produce a longshot . No need to explain just hit these numbers #1 and #3 and #4 and #7 and #9 and #10

Race #7 Leg Two = #1 and #3 and #4 and #7 and #9 and #10


Race #8 . This is our key race and this ticket does not get punched unless #2B Sand Pit Road is indeed racing . Sand Pit Road is a Monster in disguise in this race and you get a bonus entry along with it #2 Final Argument . This is our single in this sequence and at 7/2 morning line should hold some value.


Race #8 Leg Three = #2 and 2B . ( Note 2B is our key here so if scratched before race #6 the ticket is not punched) : As of 9:30 am PST horse is still a go.


Race #9 . The worst of the worst . The 5k Maiden Claimer at Evangeline has produced huge payouts recently and I was happy the Race Secretary made this the final leg. There is no rhyme or reason to any of these picks and we are hoping to catch an 8-1 or higher here and cash a nice ticket .

Race #9 Leg Four = #1 and #2 and #4 and #5 and #10 and #12


Ticket will read for the late pick 4

Race #6 = #1 and #4 and #5 and #6

Race #7 = #1 and #3 and #4 and #7 and #9 and #10

Race #8 = #2 and #2B ( 2B must run )

Race #9 = #1 and #2 and #4 and #5 and #10 and #12


Ticket Cost = $72.00 on a .50 cent base wager




So also I mentioned that I had a horse I liked at Canterbury Park . This will be Race #5 and don't get all excited because this is not a longshot . Race #5 at Canterbury Downs has a field of 12 runners going 7.5 Furlongs on the turf course .

#6 Heat Flash : Horse was meant to win his last start at Evangeline Downs but going to the back stretch the saddle slipped leaving Jockey Tim Thornton no way to control Heat Flashes speed and he darted to the lead at full speed and dam near won the race . He has since been shipped to Canterbury Park and there should be some value I would think . Listed at 5/2 ML with the size of the field I am hoping to get 2-1 or better in this spot. (If odds are not 2-1 or better DO NOT WAGER)




So there are the picks for what should be an exciting and hopefully profitable day.


Good Luck
Gookie

We need some pics of the clientele at Turf Paradise

Also had no idea how many OTB locations there were in AZ. Holy degenerates

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We need some pics of the clientele at Turf Paradise

Also had no idea how many OTB locations there were in AZ. Holy degenerates

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OTB's in AZ are small and usually consist of one teller and a single machine to punch your own tickets . They are all at Bars so I never hang out just in to punch my tickets and home .

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We need some pics of the clientele at Turf Paradise

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Yeah post more pics and this could be an epic thread