Kesha versus Dr. Luke, whose side are you on?

Pretty weird story.

Kesha and Dr. Luke are both suing one another.

Dr. Luke was the guy who discovered and signed Kesha. He also co-wrote/produced successful songs such as "Girlfriend" (Avril Lavigne), "Who Knew" (Pink), and "I Kissed a Girl" (Katy Perry).

Kesha is claiming that he emotionally abused her, and also gave her a date rape drug and raped her on one occasion.

She was recently in rehab for anorexia.

Dr. Luke claims that she just wants out of her contract, and is making all of this up.

She also claims that he was overly controlling and wouldn't let have any creative input on her second album.

I think the creative control thing is crap. Even if true, if their contract gave Dr. Luke creative control, so be it. She certainly can't say that he isn't good at producing pop hits, or that he didn't live up to his promises of making her successful.

Did he date rape her? Maybe, maybe not, but that's impossible to prove at this point.

The emotional abuse claims revolve around Luke supposedly calling her fat, leading to her eating disorder. Again, this may have occurred, but one can argue that her manager had a right to use "tough love" tactics in order to keep her weight down, as much of Kesha's appeal to the public came from her looks.

My opinion is that Kesha may be telling the truth about many of these things, but I don't believe they are lawsuit worthy (or provable).

Here are Kesha's letters to fans from a few months ago (while in rehab), where she makes reference to the supposed abuse that occurred: http://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertai...-luke-letters/ ... These letters were written before the lawsuit, but they don't prove anything, as they could have been intentionally written in preparation for the lawsuit.

Here is a CNN article about the whole thing: http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/14/showbi...luke-lawsuits/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP6XpLQM2Cs

I'm so detached from pop music that I read an article concerning this situation a week ago and then was utterly shocked the subjects of said article were white. Remove your knowledge of who they are and think about the pop star Kesha and music producer Dr. Luke having a beef. Would you have bet white?

I always thought she had a dick?

Dr. Luke.

Anyone producing crap music like this deserves abuse.

I haven't heard many of her songs, but the ones I have heard all sound the same. She reinvented herself after rehab though. She is now Kesha, not Ke$ha.

Mind control mk ultra kind of shit

I also think it's weak when you market yourself as a brash party girl for 5+ years, and then sue your manager because he called you fat (in private, no less) and made you cry.

That talentless nothing should be thanking him on a daily basis that she's as successful as she is

I don't see how any guy could get off giving some chick the date rape drug but that goes even more so for a girl that isn't fuckable to me at all even if I was sloppy drunk.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

I also think it's weak when you market yourself as a brash party girl for 5+ years, and then sue your manager because he called you fat (in private, no less) and made you cry.

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I'm sure she will claim she never wanted to market herself that way. It was all her manager's idea...and that isn't the type of "artist" she is. Then she will release a new album where she actually tries to sing without auto-tune, and ditch the party girl image. It will fail and you will never hear about her again.

gotta admit, she is looking much better after having left that rehab place in Chicago last year.

lost weight, cleaned up, classed herself up a bit

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Originally Posted by Spookygook

Mind control mk ultra kind of shit

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No doubt. These dudes take no chances and any media controversy is like maybe 1/100th as sick as the real shit that these poor souls don't remember

Kinda siding with the Dr. There was an email from Kesha's mom to Dr. Luke that could be viewed as extortion.


http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/16/showbi...luke-lawsuits/

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Kesha, whose full name is Kesha Rose Sebert, was "an intelligent, family-oriented and joyful young woman" before Dr. Luke "showered her with promises of fame and fortune" and induced her to sign a contract with him in 2005, her lawsuit said.

Instead of living a life of Hollywood glamor, she "lived in a prison of his abuse," the lawsuit said.

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:lol2

I do believe they probably did have sex at Paris Hilton's house when she was 18.

I doubt the mother would have made a "threat" about releasing that if it were all made up.

However, it sounds more like they did pills together and banged, rather than some kind of date rape drug being used.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

The emotional abuse claims revolve around Luke supposedly calling her fat, leading to her eating disorder. Again, this may have occurred, but one can argue that her manager had a right to use "tough love" tactics in order to keep her weight down, as much of Kesha's appeal to the public came from her looks.

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TIL Druff attended the Ike Turner School of Musician Management.

So, TMZ is reporting that Kesha stated in a deposition that Dr. Luke never did any of the things she has accused him of doing. GG Kesha.


http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/16/showbi...luke-lawsuits/

Whole thing probably a publicity scam.

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Starting to really look like Dr. Luke is in the right here.

Now Kesha is panicking that she's still under contract with Dr. Luke, saying that her career is "effectively over" unless she gets out of it.

From Yahoo:

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Last October, Kesha sued producer Dr. Luke, alleging that while signed to his label, he drugged, raped and abused her.
The singer is hoping that these allegations will dissolve her contract with his Kemosabe Records label, freeing her to work with other producers and songwriters. On Friday, she filed a preliminary injunction which would force the judge to make a decision.

Her attorney, celebrity lawyer Mark Geragos, painted a dire picture: “Kesha is at an impasse…her brand value has fallen, and unless the Court issues this injunction, Kesha will suffer irreparable harm, plummeting her career past the point of no return.”

Of course, that’s the opinion of her lawyer. But Kesha also submitted an affidavit from Jim Urie, former CEO of Universal Music Group Distribution, who spoke from a more qualified perspective. He said: “If Kesha cannot immediately resume recording…her career is effectively over.”

Throughout this entire ordeal, Dr. Luke has claimed to be a victim of extortion, and fired back with his own defamation lawsuit. A spokesperson for him commented on the recent state of things, saying, “If Kesha now regrets her career being mired in legal proceedings, it’s entirely her making.”

And for the first time, Sony Music, which owns Dr. Luke’s Kemosabe records, weighed in on the case, telling the judge that it’s been “caught in the crossfire."

A few months ago, Kesha added the music giant to her lawsuit, claiming that they enabled Dr. Luke’s behavior.

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Sounds like someone overestimated her own importance and credibility.

got a feeling she's into drugs on her own

 

https://rillarants.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/kbj.jpg

http://www.juggsnbuns.com/wp-content...keshaboobs.jpg

That woman is a trainwreck and if Dr Luke fucked her he must have been wasted. Pretty sure the guy routinely f's only top shelf pussy.

LOL. Thought this was a new thread. Tells you how much I pay attention to this crap music.

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Judge won't let Kesha out of contract: http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/19/entert...eat/index.html

Idiot stars line up to support Kesha, such as Taylor Swift who gave her $250,000 for "legal expenses" (lol): http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/23/entert...sha/index.html

Dr. Luke says, "I did not have sex with that woman"...

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Also why is his Twitter name "Dr. Luke Doctor Luke"?

Reminds me of the Iceman's answering machine.

"Please leave a message for..... Please leave a message."

I've honestly never heard of this girl or Dr. Luke till seeing this thread, but then I prefer Pearl Jam, Three Doors Down, Tool,etc and would never listen to a radio station that played her music. She looks hot to me though, and I'd fuck her. Doubt she's into older white guys that play poker and listen to rock n roll music.

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Also why is his Twitter name "Dr. Luke Doctor Luke"?

Reminds me of the Iceman's answering machine.

"Please leave a message for..... Please leave a message."

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Twitter's horribad search feature. If you're not spot on, you may not be found. It's a pure SEO move.

Dude it's Ke$ha and the only Dr. I know is Dr. Pockles

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Anyone producing crap music like this deserves abuse.

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I remember Kesha had a one-hit song about partying at a nightclub.

Kesha has a 6 album contract with Sony.
Who the fuck buys album's anymore?
The streaming music websites don't make any real money.
I guess Sony gave her some money so they can license her songs for TV and movies.
Kesha makes money when she goes on tour and performs.

:gay2

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...t-present.html

She's leaving the internet.

No album from her in 5 years, y'all.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/...3515599907.jpg

I thought Doctor Luke was Uncle Luke AKA Luther Cambell this entire time. I have to follow shit pop music more than anyone I know. How the hell did some of you know who Dr. Luke was before this?

Kesha is a super smart girl that probably saw through the alluring facade a lititle bit better than she was supposed to.

Am I the only one that thought this was the guy from 2 Live Crew and Luke's Peep Show and not some Jew?

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Also why is his Twitter name "Dr. Luke Doctor Luke"?

Reminds me of the Iceman's answering machine.

"Please leave a message for..... Please leave a message."

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Looks like he may have screwed up when he created his screen name. I did that in some account I had once. Wound up having a double screen name instead of what I meant.

Trainwreck once said she had sex with a ghost

seriously, "ke$ha ghost" autocompletes on google.

edit: I love Ke$ha tho as I will always remember looping her debut on Flo Rida's "Right Round" for a cpl hours as I steamrolled "quiet lion" Richard Brodie for like 15k as we developed our fued

She's never recovered since taking heat about "Die Young" being about Sandy Hook, even though she didn't write it, and said over and over that she was forced to sing it. Mind you the song came out BEFORE Sandy Hook. I don't think she ever did anything after that. Kesha was always known for writing her own songs before that.

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http://www.rollingstone.com/music/ne...jected-w473189

Kesha keeps losing in court. She tried to amend her lawsuit to prove breach of contract, and the judge rejected it.

Here's the funniest passage:

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The amended suit also argued that Dr. Luke broke the "good faith" assumption in all contracts through his years of alleged abuse and his alleged failure to help Kesha release her third album.

Judge Kornreich shut down the unpaid royalties argument, however, noting that a witness for Dr. Luke had provided an accounting statement that showed Kesha actually owed the producer $1.3 million in royalties.

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:lol

Last year, she also tried to claim that Dr. Luke committed a hate crime against her (huh?), and that was also shut down.

she also got curved silly by jerry seinfeld the other day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEqnVfp_pQA

saw that video on twitter, and the responses were all like "WHO DA FUK IS JERRY SEINFELD? WHAT A RUDE MOTHA FUKKA!" Would be embarrassing to know who Kesha is, but not know who Jerry Seinfeld is.

Worthy time to bump this, even though I wasn't even on this forum when this thread last had activity. LA Times did a really good and detailed article, chronicling the entire feud. Here is a link to it: https://archive.ph/rFroo

The cliffs are essentially what you guys suspected 8-9 years ago. Kesha wanted out of her contract with Dr. Luke, so she and her mom made up a bunch of BS allegations of rape and other stuff. It does seem that and Luke banged when she was 18, but it was when both were drunk/high, and there is not a shred of evidence that any rape happened.

The LA Times basically tore Kesha apart while presenting the article as a neutral breakdown of the situation. But I think they are correct and they cite their sources.

One interesting thing I learned was that Kesha's mom, Pebe Sebert, wrote a #1 country song in 1978, sung by Dolly Parton. It was called, "Old Flames Can't Hold a Candle to You". She did not continue songwriting because she became a drug addict, and nobody wanted to hire her. Since then she has been pining for the good old days, and it seems that she was a driving force behind the lawsuit, hoping to pressure Luke into getting her a writing gig again! Even with Luke's influence, this was not likely, because she wrote one hit in the late 70s, and was in her late 50s when all this started.

Something else I learned was that Lady Gaga was duped into believing that Kesha was an actual rape victim, and was one of the driving forces behind public sentiment turning against Dr. Luke. Lady Gaga was raped herself before she was famous, so she was the perfect mark here.

The lawsuit is now over without any real resolution. However, both careers are ruined. Lady Gaga and a few others successfully branded Dr. Luke as toxic, and nobody wants to hire him to produce anymore, even though he has a real knack for churning out hits. At the same time, many quietly believe Kesha is full of shit and might turn on the next label which signs her, so she is also considered toxic.

In short it looks like Kesha and her mom are awful people, and Luke's career was unjustifiably ruined. Read the article I linked at the top of this post if you have like 20 mins to spare.