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It seems weekly they are talking about destroying other nations. This week they are threatening to turn Seoul into ashes for insulting them. At which point do you just fire over 100 or so nukes to wipe out the population?
That place really needs to start over anyway and wiping out their civilization would be doing them a favor.
I am alot more scared of North Korea than I am of Iran. Not even close.
The first reason would prolly be fallout. Second we would piss China off which would kill out economy since they are our bankers.Quote:
Originally Posted by cmoney
More importantly why should we give a shit about Korea, Iran or even Iraq? They are no threat to us. If we would mind our own business and worry about the huge issues we have at home the world would not hate us so much. It's not our job to police the world and thats a huge part of whats killing our country and economy. Like wtf do we still have an embargo on Cuba for? To fight communism? Well wtf is China? Hell what is the US becoming for that matter?
I'm all for taking North Korea off the map, but truthfully I don't believe that they would ever risk an open war against South Korea. China is on the books as saying that they will go into against whatever side starts the war if things go off. North Korea will not take the chance of China cutting off financial aid to them much less getting bitch slapped by the Chinese army.Quote:
Originally Posted by cmoney
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i dont even think that is the real c-money. but if it is, wtf? come on. what country is even scared of them? south korea, but they wouldnt do shit because we give them food all the fucking time.
They are on the books saying that because that's the thing to say. Just like the US and every other country out there says whatever they think people want to hear from them, then do whatever the fuck else they want in private.Quote:
Originally Posted by shortbuspoker
That's what those books are for. Micon's on the books as saying he'd never in a million years be involved in being the face of a shady poker site. It must be true, you can look it up in the books.
I actually believe them in this case. China has a vested interest in keep the region stable so that their economy isn't affected. That being said, it all goes out the window if the day ever comes where China actually wants to fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crowe DiddlyThey are on the books saying that because that's the thing to say. Just like the US and every other country out there says whatever they think people want to hear from them, then do whatever the fuck else they want in private.Quote:
Originally Posted by shortbuspoker
That's what those books are for. Micon's on the books as saying he'd never in a million years be involved in being the face of a shady poker site. It must be true, you can look it up in the books.
I completely agree. I don't think the day will come when China wants to fight though. They are smart enough to take over economically. That is what they are doing to the US. That's why they keep buying our debt knowing that we can never repay it. They want to foreclose and take our assets. Not to mention Chinese restaurants being in almost every town across the US. I'm sure they provide China with loads of valuable info and monetary value. The workers in those restaurant normally are not interested in joining the melting pot and I can't say as I have EVER seen them out in the community.Quote:
Originally Posted by shortbuspokerI actually believe them in this case. China has a vested interest in keep the region stable so that their economy isn't affected. That being said, it all goes out the window if the day ever comes where China actually wants to fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly
economically China should rule the roost within 10 years...However she's no match for us militarially...so if we default it's tough luck on their part..better strategy would to join up together and take over the world...Quote:
Originally Posted by curt8105I completely agree. I don't think the day will come when China wants to fight though. They are smart enough to take over economically. That is what they are doing to the US. That's why they keep buying our debt knowing that we can never repay it. They want to foreclose and take our assets. Not to mention Chinese restaurants being in almost every town across the US. I'm sure they provide China with loads of valuable info and monetary value. The workers in those restaurant normally are not interested in joining the melting pot and I can't say as I have EVER seen them out in the community.Quote:
Originally Posted by shortbuspoker
It takes money to run a war machine... we have none and can only keep printing more for so long... say it goes to an international court and they support China. Will we take on the world? To what end?Quote:
Originally Posted by son of lockmaneconomically China should rule the roost within 10 years...However she's no match for us militarially...so if we default it's tough luck on their part..better strategy would to join up together and take over the world...Quote:
Originally Posted by curt8105
The 2nd amendment is Americas greatest defense and the reason we have never been invaded.
load up on debt then air mail them a nuclear bankruptcy notice?Quote:
Originally Posted by son of lockman
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Originally Posted by curt8105It takes money to run a war machine... we have none and can only keep printing more for so long... say it goes to an international court and they support China. Will we take on the world? To what end?Quote:
Originally Posted by son of lockman
The 2nd amendment is Americas greatest defense and the reason we have never been invaded.
So they buy our bonds which are worthless...Not too bright on their part...
But we don't need no stinkin nuclear bombs to take care of them...
We just cut loose with HARP and starve them out...
OR, China will stay on the outside, condemn the outrageous action by the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, and silently continue supplying NK with weaponry, money, and technology, as they have for quite a while now.Quote:
Originally Posted by shortbuspokerI actually believe them in this case. China has a vested interest in keep the region stable so that their economy isn't affected. That being said, it all goes out the window if the day ever comes where China actually wants to fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly
1. Economically, china is just a bubble that's going to pop like a fat bitch that can't stop eating.
2. Communism and capitalism don't work well together.
3. Once exports dry up and the commodity bear market begins it will crash even faster.
4. China's major cities hold all economic activity. the rest of the country is dirt poor.
5. China's not the US banker, China is owed $1.16 trillion (8 percent of total debt). US investors are owed 9.7T
6. Chinese people like to run over kids in the street and no one gives a shit. a common thing from what i read.
7. Once China's economy crashes they may attack due to desperation. kind of like shitty North Korea.
The US economy will always be #1 due to capitalism.
socialism and communism undermine capitalism.
fuck communism, fuck socialism, fuck china and north korea.
more to come.
Have you been sleeping the past 15 years? Our economy is shit. It's on the verge of collapse, we are heading toward becoming socialist/fascist at an alarming rate. I agree that capitalism would prevail but thats just not the way things are anymore. We have the government propping up bad businesses(from banks to auto companies) that would and should go under, at the expense of tax dollars instead of letting the free market stay free. Then we spend money we don't have invading countries illegally in order to "spread freedom". America will go down like Rome because of arrogance and overextending themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnDew
china doesnt want it to happen.
the flood of immigrants into china's border from a collapsed DPRK would have tremendous consequences on their economy.
and their culture as well; DPRK civilians are, above and beyond the DPRK brainwashing cult thing, completely useless hillbillies who are rife with disease and utterly incapable of interfacing with a modern society on any level.
i assume you already know why a 'nuke' is off the table but im speaking more in terms of a sustained and legitimate effort to intentionally destroy the DPRK military/government.
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Originally Posted by curt8105Have you been sleeping the past 15 years? Our economy is shit. It's on the verge of collapse, we are heading toward becoming socialist/fascist at an alarming rate. I agree that capitalism would prevail but thats just not the way things are anymore. We have the government propping up bad businesses(from banks to auto companies) that would and should go under, at the expense of tax dollars instead of letting the free market stay free. Then we spend money we don't have invading countries illegally in order to "spread freedom". America will go down like Rome because of arrogance and overextending themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnDew
Hey this guy turned around a nation with facism...
But this time we get the Jews to help out...
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Communism sucks i lived through it.Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnDew
Capitalism is better but under the US ever changing description of it is becoming less and less what it should be.
and the reason for almost all the changes is 9:11, worked out pretty good for US government now they have there finger on everyones button, almost like they planned this.
In the most part in my country communism was not every man for himself but was more like every village for its self and new comers were generally not welcome.
when you said socialism and communism undermine capitalism. i am like maybe but the opposite of this is more true than you may think :-)
and no to nuking the nippers, making millions pay for a few peoples greed and poor decisions is not good thinking.
walk a mile in there shoes first before you push the button.
Same could be said about almost all of Africa.Quote:
Originally Posted by cmoney
cmoney is god obv.
i agree the USA isn't true capitalist like before but the USA isn't full blown communist or socialist like most of world is today. so the US of A will prevail as the #1 country until then(hopefully never).
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2...r-leaving-cuba
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A North Korean cargo ship was stopped near the Panama Canal and searched on suspicion of drugs, but it was carrying something sweeter — the apparent parts of a surface-to-air missile system, hidden inside containers of brown sugar.
The State Department said any shipment of arms or related material aboard the freighter would violate at least three U.N. resolutions.
The ship was on its way home from Cuba. Panamanian authorities said the captain of the ship tried to kill himself after officials boarded it Monday and began searching the containers that were supposed to contain the sugar.
The captain of the North Korean ship Chong Chon Gang tried to kill himself as the vessel was searched, according to Panama's President Ricardo Martinelli.
Independent defense analysts and U.S. officials said Tuesday that the equipment appeared to be a radar control system for surface-to-air missiles, and that the behavior of the crew suggested the equipment was being shipped covertly.
But Gordon Chang, the author of “Nuclear Showdown: North Korea Takes on the World,” said it didn’t matter what was in the cargo hold.
Pic tweeted by the President of Panama.
Why is it all these former communist countries have such hot looking women?Quote:
Originally Posted by Baron Von StruckerCommunism sucks i lived through it.Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnDew
Capitalism is better but under the US ever changing description of it is becoming less and less what it should be.
and the reason for almost all the changes is 9:11, worked out pretty good for US government now they have there finger on everyones button, almost like they planned this.
In the most part in my country communism was not every man for himself but was more like every village for its self and new comers were generally not welcome.
when you said socialism and communism undermine capitalism. i am like maybe but the opposite of this is more true than you may think :-)
and no to nuking the nippers, making millions pay for a few peoples greed and poor decisions is not good thinking.
walk a mile in there shoes first before you push the button.
If Carter had nuked Iran in '79, the U.S. wouldn't have all these problems today.
The next country that drops nuclear bomb(s) will be the next world leader for the next few decades. The U.S. did it in "45.
Right now there is no clear cut world leader. The U. S. is just a big country you can push around. No one is afraid of us any more. Drop a few nuclear bombs on somebody, you scare the shit out of everybody and everybody kisses your ass. That's the way the world works. From kindergarten to world politics. When everyone finds out who the top dog is there will be peace.