Shit's about to get real.
Time for a good old fashion proxy war.
Are the Russians too far down the road to back down now?
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Shit's about to get real.
Time for a good old fashion proxy war.
Are the Russians too far down the road to back down now?
I thought it would be a couple weeks after the O before Russia took shit down. Probably will be serious. Maybe the US will smack them down.
Video of some helicopters from Russia headed into Ukraine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TVyPiHVZ1A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsSEAxRllhE
U.S no match in the field against Russia on European soil. They'd take us down so quick we wouldn't know what hit us. Now at sea it would be a different story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooh
You do realize that the US can take over the entire world if need be.....Quote:
Originally Posted by son of lockmanU.S no match in the field against Russia on European soil. They'd take us down so quick we wouldn't know what hit us. Now at sea it would be a different story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooh
This ain't 1943. Russia would be deaf, dumb and blind in 3 hours without having one set of boots on the ground if we so much as had a whim to do it. The assassin in chief doesn't really think large scale though and everyone that did he replaced with someone that shouldn't ask and would probably tell.Quote:
Originally Posted by son of lockmanU.S no match in the field against Russia on European soil. They'd take us down so quick we wouldn't know what hit us. Now at sea it would be a different story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooh
Crimea will go to the Russians, the greater part of Ukraine will go EU.
As for sea battle, nobody wants that. Fleet vs fleet = world war 3. Everybody wants this to be China vs India, not US vs Russia.
Only with nuclear weapons my man. Then who is there left to conquer?Quote:
Originally Posted by PoohYou do realize that the US can take over the entire world if need be.....Quote:
Originally Posted by son of lockman
Yeah, Alexander wept, blah blah blah..Quote:
Originally Posted by son of lockmanOnly with nuclear weapons my man. Then who is there left to conquer?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooh
If we wanted the whole enchilada we would need a coalition to do it. The entire US does not have enough humans to mount a serious threat worldwide to police the whole planet if conquered.
the US and frends would probably be able to kick the russians out of the ukraine. but going the distance as far as a invasion of russia, this will never be sucessfull. they are tough mother fuckers compaired to most.Quote:
Originally Posted by son of lockmanU.S no match in the field against Russia on European soil. They'd take us down so quick we wouldn't know what hit us. Now at sea it would be a different story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooh
it would be more in the intrest in the long run to allie with them as best as posable to battle or intimitate common enimys. Would probably be like making a deal with the devil, but they have endless resourses and people, land. Kinda worked once before? ended bad!
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Originally Posted by Baron Von Struckerthe US and frends would probably be able to kick the russians out of the ukraine. but going the distance as far as a invasion of russia, this will never be sucessfull. they are tough mother fuckers compaired to most.Quote:
Originally Posted by son of lockman
it would be more in the intrest in the long run to allie with them as best as posable to battle or intimitate common enimys. Would probably be like making a deal with the devil, but they have endless resourses and people, land. Kinda worked once before? ended bad!
I see alot of what's about to happen to turn into the global government structure that we need to get through the next 500 years. It will be a rough ride though.
as i understand it, the Rueskies have only moved into Crimea, the area of Ukraine that favors alignment with Russia...as i see it, its probably best to partition the Ukraine and allow Crimea to join Russia.
can someone cliff notes why russia is in ukraine? and cliff note what exactly been going on over there
US will not intervene directly in Ukraine - Russia's backyard - in my lifetime or my future grandson's lifetime. Look how afraid the US were of going into Syria because Assad was Russia's guy. No way, not a chance, take it to the bank. Crimea is essentially Russia and was purportedly "given" to the Ukraine S.S.R. as a Stalinist joke of sorts. The large majority there are ethnically Russian in every way a typical citizen of Moscow is. Crimea is far more Russian than Puerto Rico or Hawaii is "American".
What will happen is that Crimea will eventually be declared an autonomous region/breakaway republic with locals in charge, recognized and backed by Russia, and not answering to Kiev at all.
all we would have to do is bribe some of the Russian Generals and it would resemble that seen from Braveheart where they just get up and leave.
for all the people that say that Crimea should be part of Russia because the population is mostly Russians i say they should get the fuck out of the Ukraine and move the fuck back to there owns country.
I fucking can't stand how a group of ethnec people live concentrated in one area and some how think they have the right to declare the area a different country. If this was allowed it would be messy.
If these people are so pro Russia they should simply move back and enjoy them selves in a shitty dictatorship country.
Why is anybody surprised over this. This is Georgia all over again except problem is Russia has a large Naval base in Crimea they dont want to lose access to which is likely to happen if Ukraine goes EU.. The bigger concern Putin has is the very possibility that Ukraine could join NATO which would be a major shitstorm for the former communist KGB insider. Additionally with Obama having ZERO backbone credibility over his bullshit with Syria and the redline crap among other things Putin basically lets anything Obama says go in one ear and out the other as the bullshit it is..Quote:
Originally Posted by Baron Von Strucker
This all came about simply because Putins little puppet jumped the shark and decided it was smart to start shooting protestors with his little special police (gestapo) force. The final straw was when one of the police snipers shot an innocent medic who was there to provide first aid and nearly killed her. Besides lets not forget the face of the Opposition/Pro Western folks is none other then one Vitali Klitschko 1/2 of the brothers who've run roughshod over the Heavyweight division in boxing and is seen as a huge public face for Ukraine and probably possibly the likely new President of Ukraine once elections are held.
You can't be serious. We could barely take over Iraq, and never did take over Afghanistan.Quote:
Originally Posted by PoohYou do realize that the US can take over the entire world if need be.....Quote:
Originally Posted by son of lockman
We could render the world uninhabitable with nukes though. Not really the same as taking over, and we'd be killing ourselves too.
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no they haven't always been there empty headQuote:
gut:wrote lol, theyve always been there jackass. remember the soviet union?
ok ill write slowly so the retard can understand. Crimea is part of the Ukraine. it is not Russia and thats that.
there were many countries the Soviet Union occupied and populated with russians after ww2 it dosent mean it was there country,
I am not saying Russians are not welcome to live in the Ukraine. of course they can live there as well as the USA and Canada, and just because they live here does not give them the right to declare the land that they live on is part of mother Russia. this is no different
I think that it's possible that the US could take most of the world for a short time with conventional weapons if they decided to not worry about civilian casualties. That said, there is no way that any single country could maintain control of the entire world. It's just not feasible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak
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Originally Posted by PoohYou do realize that the US can take over the entire world if need be.....Quote:
Originally Posted by son of lockman
I hope you're joking
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Originally Posted by shortbuspokerI think that it's possible that the US could take most of the world for a short time with conventional weapons if they decided to not worry about civilian casualties. That said, there is no way that any single country could maintain control of the entire world. It's just not feasible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak
People need to remember that one of the big parts of the U.S. having success in wars was due to the art of deception. With the advances in communications and info technology, imo deception is going to be much harder for any country going forward
vice doing work like always
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNKsLlK52ss&index=2&list=PLw613M86o5o5zqF6 WJR8zuC7Uwyv76h7R
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y57vy4vWb-E&list=PLw613M86o5o5zqF6WJR8zuC7Uwyv76h7R
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnpXASPd1h4&list=PLw613M86o5o5zqF6WJR8zuC7 Uwyv76h7R
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGSrcYLsOMI&list=PLw613M86o5o5zqF6WJR8zuC7 Uwyv76h7R
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what ever happened to PFAs biggest Russian fan?Quote:
Originally Posted by 4DragonsThis ain't 1943. Russia would be deaf, dumb and blind in 3 hours without having one set of boots on the ground if we so much as had a whim to do it. The assassin in chief doesn't really think large scale though and everyone that did he replaced with someone that shouldn't ask and would probably tell.Quote:
Originally Posted by son of lockman
Crimea will go to the Russians, the greater part of Ukraine will go EU.
As for sea battle, nobody wants that. Fleet vs fleet = world war 3. Everybody wants this to be China vs India, not US vs Russia.
We have lost India as well as Israel. Donald Trump had very good relationships with both countries yet Joe Biden has lost their support to the Russians. This fool has gotten us in a terrible mess.Quote:
Originally Posted by BetCheckBetwhat ever happened to PFAs biggest Russian fan?Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Dragons
Russia has gone to def-con whatever & the shit is getting closer to the fan every second.
Some pretty good reads
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I admit it is sad that nearly everyone who participated in this thread has stopped posting here, died, or been arrested on sex charges. It begs the question if being enlisted into this war is really as bad as it sounds?