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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...h-as-1-4-.html
A shutdown of the U.S. government would reduce fourth-quarter economic growth by as much as 1.4 percentage points depending on its length, economists say, as government workers from park rangers to telephone receptionists are furloughed.
Mark Zandi of Moody’s Analytics Inc. estimates a three-to-four week shutdown would cut growth by 1.4 points. Zandi projects a 2.5 percent annualized pace of fourth-quarter growth without a shutdown. A two-week shutdown starting Oct. 1 could cut growth by 0.3 percentage point to a 2.3 percent rate, according to St. Louis-based Macroeconomic Advisers LLC.
The economy is improving and the GOP hates it because people might give Obama credit. So they're going to hold the economy hostage.
No sir. The answer is one of these three. Feel free to guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyB
A) It's Bush's fault.
B) The Republicans are racist.
C) Obama was born in Kenya.
D) The GOP really does not like the Affordable Care Act and since they cannot repeal it at this time their only move is to defund it.
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Originally Posted by shortbuspokerNo sir. The answer is one of these three. Feel free to guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyB
A) It's Bush's fault.
B) The Republicans are racist.
C) Obama was born in Kenya.
D) The GOP really does not like the Affordable Care Act and since they cannot repeal it at this time their only move is to defund it.
e) Benghazi
1 of those 3 (4)?Quote:
Originally Posted by shortbuspokerNo sir. The answer is one of these three. Feel free to guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyB
A) It's Bush's fault.
B) The Republicans are racist.
C) Obama was born in Kenya.
D) The GOP really does not like the Affordable Care Act and since they cannot repeal it at this time their only move is to defund it.
Sir, you are most certainly suited for lawmaking...
indeed, there is a job waiting for you writing inconsisitent and loophole filled regulations for the IRS or OSHA.
:applause
Is PBS still on the air?
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Originally Posted by DirtyB
conspiratard.
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Originally Posted by DirtyB
You cannot possibly believe this to be true.
Oh no, national parks, IRS auditors and NASA are going to shut down for a few days, whatever shall we do??
The federal govt is closed 12 hours a day and all day Saturday and Sunday as it is. Yet somehow we find a way to carry on.
Bullshit posturing as always. This is the 17th govt shutdown since 1976, and there is no way in hell it lasts longer than the last one in 1995 which went 21 days and had ZERO direct economic impact. Political impact? Of course but that's what it's all about anyway.
F) Fast and Furious.Quote:
Originally Posted by CorriganQuote:
Originally Posted by shortbuspoker
e) Benghazi
G) NSA leak.
H) IRS Tea Party Scrutiny.
I) Donald Trump's wig.
J) Kristin's Wiig.
K) Barry trying to pass off his religion as logic.
L) Hanna Montana on the cover of the Rolling Stone
M) Go Tigers
N) Collect underpants
O) Global Warming
P) Such a crisis that Congress didn't bother to come into work
Q) Healthcare market computer crashes
R) Detroit defaulted on its loans today because of Republican Politics
S) Barry would vote for Anthony Wiener
T) ???
U) 'What does it matter now anyway' - Hillary
V) Profit
W) NBC and CNN both cancel Hillary Bio Pics.
X) Pinkman lives
Y) Illegal Immigration
Z) I can't believe
If government shutdown was mandated to include pay clawback from all politicians you can bet it would never shutdown.
and Hugh JackmanQuote:
Originally Posted by 4DragonsF) Fast and Furious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Corrigan
G) NSA leak.
H) IRS Tea Party Scrutiny.
I) Donald Trump's wig.
J) Kristin's Wiig.
K) Barry trying to pass off his religion as logic.
L) Hanna Montana on the cover of the Rolling Stone
M) Go Tigers
N) Collect underpants
O) Global Warming
P) Such a crisis that Congress didn't bother to come into work
Q) Healthcare market computer crashes
R) Detroit defaulted on its loans today because of Republican Politics
S) Barry would vote for Anthony Wiener
T) ???
U) 'What does it matter now anyway' - Hillary
V) Profit
W) NBC and CNN both cancel Hillary Bio Pics.
X) Pinkman lives
Y) Illegal Immigration
Z) I can't believe
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Yes, Ted Cruz and the Tea Party conspired to hijack the Republican Party. But unlike your conspiracy theories, I can back that one up with evidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brittney Griner's ClitQuote:
Originally Posted by DirtyB
conspiratard.
You know more about the economy than the head analyst at Moodys and every other professional analyst?Quote:
Originally Posted by tony bagadonutsYou cannot possibly believe this to be true.Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyB
Oh no, national parks, IRS auditors and NASA are going to shut down for a few days, whatever shall we do??
The federal govt is closed 12 hours a day and all day Saturday and Sunday as it is. Yet somehow we find a way to carry on.
Bullshit posturing as always. This is the 17th govt shutdown since 1976, and there is no way in hell it lasts longer than the last one in 1995 which went 21 days and had ZERO direct economic impact. Political impact? Of course but that's what it's all about anyway.
At least they had enough money left over for signs and zip ties. Obv due to the fact that Halliburton owns the sign and zip tie industries.
http://l2.yimg.com/nn/fp/rsz/100113/...1380635848.jpg
In an extended shutdown, most of the federal workforce would go without pay, but the checks will keep coming to the 533 current members of Congress.
The 27th Amendment to the Constitution restricts any Congress from changing its own pay. The measure was proposed in the first days of the Republic but was not ratified until 1992, after a grass-roots movement promoted the idea and the necessary number of state legislatures approved it.
Shouldn't they use the system that they pick the Pope with? Lock those useless leaches in a room and feed them less and less until they are forced to make an agreement or starve to death.Quote:
Originally Posted by simpdog
Eventually, you get white smoke.
Americans are happy they aren't in the Middle East during the riots/protests that turn extremely violent during elections.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4DragonsShouldn't they use the system that they pick the Pope with? Lock those useless leaches in a room and feed them less and less until they are forced to make an agreement or starve to death.Quote:
Originally Posted by simpdog
Eventually, you get white smoke.
Do Syrians and Egyptians say I'm glad I'm not in the US during the gov't shutdown? Do they LOL @ US that it seems so ridiculous?
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Originally Posted by DirtyBYou know more about the economy than the head analyst at Moodys and every other professional analyst?Quote:
Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts
He prolly does. LOL Moodys.
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Originally Posted by DirtyBYes, Ted Cruz and the Tea Party conspired to hijack the Republican Party. But unlike your conspiracy theories, I can back that one up with evidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brittney Griner's Clit
I'm listening.
These shutdowns are really unfair to the US population. There should really be something in place to penalize politicians for allowing this to happen -- and I'm not talking about financial penalties.
If they have to occur, they should be structured in a way to where only "long term" services (where a shutdown for a short period of time won't have a noticeable affect) are shuttered.
For example, the National Parks thing is bullshit.
It probably isn't affecting anyone reading this post.
However, if you were unlucky to schedule your expensive vacation around visiting National Parks this week, guess what? Now you're screwed, and probably out thousands of dollars.
I had a "National Parks" trip this past July, and I would have been furious if this shutdown happened then. I would have basically had to eat like $2600 in airfare, as well as had all my time planning the vacation completely wasted.
What does this say to people coming from around the world to visit our National Parks?
It says, "Fuck off. Don't come to America as a tourist."
They are saving very little money shutting down the National Parks, yet the impact on travelers scheduled to visit is huge.
The fault in this is on both sides of the aisle, by the way.
If you think that would have pissed you off I would recommend never going to France or Greece.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
The whole thing is bullshit anyway. This is the equivalent to the local school saying they are going to cancel the Football season or other associated sports. It gets everyone fired up and in the end all it would save is $10K in coaches fees when the school has a $500K "budget shortfall". Nobody freaks out when they have to not hire a Spanish teacher assistant.
You want to save some real money shut down the Military and stop sending out Social Security and Welfare checks.
I still wouldn't want to live anywhere else despite retarded government ways of thinking and shady characters but:
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http://www.cnbc.com/id/101078056Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Not what I expected.
:blackcock
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Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Pretty sure it says privatize the upkeep of the parks so that can't happen. Give the whole thing over to Halliburton.
America has already been doing that for years with how it treats foreign tourists at US airports. Only place I've been to that's worse is Russia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
http://www.businessinsider.com/obama...eiling-2013-10
http://pwtorch.com/artman2/uploads/5/punk_gif.gifQuote:
"I've bent over backwards to work with the GOP during my Presidency," Obama said.
Mmm, that's just how I like itQuote:
Originally Posted by shortbuspoker
Back on Obamacare for just a second. Only in Cali.
http://www.latimes.com/business/mone...,7108713.story
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California's health insurance exchange vastly overstated the number of online hits it received Tuesday during the rollout of Obamacare.
State officials said the Covered California website got 645,000 hits during the first day of enrollment, far fewer than the 5 million it reported Tuesday.
The state exchange had cited the 5 million figure as a sign of strong consumer interest and a major reason people had so much difficulty using its $313-million online enrollment system.
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Howard said the revised Web traffic still represents a huge response. He said the number of unique online visitors Tuesday was 514,000 and the state received 19,000 calls.
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Originally Posted by shortbuspoker
I'll take a guess and say they counted overall page hits and not just uniques. SOP for people more involved in making something look good, than it being any good.
Nope. Actual hits was 645,000 with 514,000 unique. My question is whether they were so incompetent that they fucked up the count or if they thought that they could get away with inflating the numbers but got caught.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Dragons
"Air Force-Navy & Army-Boston College games officially approved by Secretary of Defense, will be played Saturday."
Who cares about the serious issues when all that really matters is football! It's serious business and there is no shutting it down. Ever.
Oooh, oooh, Mr Kotter, I know.. It's because Al Gore invented the internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by shortbuspokerNope. Actual hits was 645,000 with 514,000 unique. My question is whether they were so incompetent that they fucked up the count or if they thought that they could get away with inflating the numbers but got caught.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Dragons
You know he never said that, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by 4DragonsOooh, oooh, Mr Kotter, I know.. It's because Al Gore invented the internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by shortbuspoker
True, he never used the word invented. He just took the "initiative" in "creating" the internet. Also Mr. Kotter was not real which might have indicated to you that 4D was making a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyBYou know he never said that, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Dragons
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IejjnZYvMF8
Everybody knows that, dumbassQuote:
Originally Posted by DirtyBYou know he never said that, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Dragons
Heres a fucked up proof the government just operates on funny money. Ok there is no budget hence things are shut down YET they now have more security and shit up at monuments in DC then are normally present when they were
"Open to the public" If that isnt the definition of Government stupidity I dont know what is and where in the budget is this stupidity being paid for obviously we need to start there with budget cuts to save money. I mean God forbid people actually go to an open area location and walk up the steps at the Lincoln Memorial when the government is shut down.. Seriously WTF..