I drive the same car as billionaire Larry Page

He actually has several cars, but the one he drives to work every day is his Nissan Leaf.

http://i.imgur.com/60Y1Qvo.jpg

It's 100% electric with no gas engine. You get 95 miles of range from a 3 hour charge. I love the single speed transmission with no stutters for gear changes like a normal car. But my favorite feature is the ability to turn on the air conditioning from an app on my phone, so I never have to get into a hot car. The lease is only $300/month and I save about $100 in gas per month. The same 1000 miles with the Leaf requires $10 worth of electricity. The maintenance schedule is ridiculous. Every two years you have to replace the brake fluid and cabin air filter. That's it.

Starting the car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adGIvLmEf0Y

You get some noise from wind and the tires, but it's an extremely quiet car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24MkOALPq20

What is the lifetime of the battery pod and how much is it to replace them?

What does it cost for tow insurance for those times you are stuck in traffic and can't find a pole to plugin to in time?

I read that electric car struggle when it is very hot out side. Have they solved this issue? Cool looking car.

On the opposite side of the spectrum i just got this a week ago:



Plates filed under "PFA SFO"

0-60 3.8 secs
550 HP
10 MPG
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I get the whole thing about saving the environment. Driving a fast car is a shitload of fun and it would be hard for me to give that up

Quite frankly I think there is a much higher chance of religious people destroying the planet MUCH sooner than anything man is creating that harms the environment. Like Hawkins has said, our only chance is to get to other planets and hedge our bets.

Dirtyb what's the total price? 300/month but did you put 5000 down or how many months ?

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On the opposite side of the spectrum i just got this a week ago:



Plates filed under "PFA SFO"

0-60 3.8 secs
550 HP
10 MPG

I get the whole thing about saving the environment. Driving a fast car is a shitload of fun and it would be hard for me to give that up

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That is a sexy car!

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What is the lifetime of the battery pod and how much is it to replace them?

What does it cost for tow insurance for those times you are stuck in traffic and can't find a pole to plugin to in time?

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I believe the warranty on the battery is that if it holds less than 70% of the original charge in 10 years, they will replace it. The battery pack is really expensive, like $10k+.

Electric cars don't work like gas cars. If you're stuck in traffic, you're not using power from the battery. The car will actually get more range in traffic and city driving, than on the highway where you have 70mph of air resistance.

Las Vegas isn't that big of a town. 95 miles will get you anywhere you want to be and back home. If I need to drive a ton of miles in one day, I can use the Mazda CX-5.

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I read that electric car struggle when it is very hot out side. Have they solved this issue? Cool looking car.

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Very cold and very hot temperatures cause different problems with all batteries, but when your car runs on the battery, they become a bigger deal.

Cold temps make batteries less able to discharge current. That's why regular cars have trouble starting when it's really cold. That would make an electric car very sluggish, so I believe all EVs have battery heating systems.

High temperatures cause all chemical batteries to slowly lose their ability to hold a charge. Tesla puts battery cooling systems in their cars, but they cost $65k and $105k. To keep the price under the Volt's, the Leaf doesn't have a battery cooling system. That's the biggest reason I'm leasing this car, because I don't know what the Las Vegas heat is going to do to the battery. Also, there should be better EVs available in 3 years.

It's an odd looking car, but I like it. Every design decision was based on what had less drag. And as a result, it is the most aerodynamic car on the road. Those big bug eye headlights cause almost no air to hit the side mirrors at highway speeds.

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Dirtyb what's the total price? 300/month but did you put 5000 down or how many months ?

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The sticker on the SV model is a bit over $34k. There's an SL for $36k, but most of the added options are not that great.

I gave them an old Honda Civic in lieu of a $2k down payment.

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On the opposite side of the spectrum i just got this a week ago:

Plates filed under "PFA SFO"

0-60 3.8 secs
550 HP
10 MPG
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I get the whole thing about saving the environment. Driving a fast car is a shitload of fun and it would be hard for me to give that up

Quite frankly I think there is a much higher chance of religious people destroying the planet MUCH sooner than anything man is creating that harms the environment. Like Hawkins has said, our only chance is to get to other planets and hedge our bets.

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I'm not a big fan of Cadillac's squared off, angular styling, but the CTS-V is an awesome car. A guy in my office loves his and Jeremy Clarkson on Top Gear absolutely adored the one he drove. I like how GM went to the Nurburgring and broke the M5's lap record just to piss off BMW. The M5 was redesigned from the ground up to take that record back.

Honestly, my 10 year long desire to own an electric car is more complex than "saving the environment". Driving gas powered cars is just not sustainable over the next 50-100 years, and the sooner we start that transition, the less bad it's going to be. The global economy is now completely dependent on the price of oil, which is a remarkably bad idea. Gas engines are the main cause of that.

Gas engines are great because literally all you need to generate more power is to burn more gas. But electric motors have a very cool advantage- they have a flat torque curve. You have access to 100% of the torque at all RPMs. It makes electric motors that are relatively small feel powerful and fun to drive.

Electric cars also give designers the freedom to do things not constrained by the typical engine, transmission, drivetrain setup. Porsche has a cool EV concept car with independent motors in all 4 wheels. The handling could be amazing.

http://www.inhabitat.com/wp-content/...918-spyder.jpg

The McLaren P1 is going to be astonishing. It's using a system related to the new KERS system in F1 cars. It has a 727 hp gas motor, as well as a 176 hp electric motor. If you press a button, the electric power is added on top of the gas engine's power.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Show_7846.JPG

is that a Leaf? yes those cars are very quiet as I drove one several years ago. in fact you have to be careful not to try to start it when it's running.

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is that a Leaf? yes those cars are very quiet as I drove one several years ago. in fact you have to be careful not to try to start it when it's running.

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You're thinking of a different car, because the Leaf has barely been out for a year. An electric car doesn't have a stater motor to grind. You turn it on when you first sit down, and you turn it off before you exit.

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550 HP
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cadillac has created a car that's less expensive, faster and burns more gas than a ferrari.

i was wondering where the current caddy market is when a saw their station wagon w/ the same specs.....the caddy went from being american opulence, to the italian mob, to the now current drug dealer/ghetto brand car.

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He actually has several cars, but the one he drives to work every day is his Nissan Leaf.

http://i.imgur.com/60Y1Qvo.jpg

It's 100% electric with no gas engine. You get 95 miles of range from a 3 hour charge. I love the single speed transmission with no stutters for gear changes like a normal car. But my favorite feature is the ability to turn on the air conditioning from an app on my phone, so I never have to get into a hot car. The lease is only $300/month and I save about $100 in gas per month. The same 1000 miles with the Leaf requires $10 worth of electricity. The maintenance schedule is ridiculous. Every two years you have to replace the brake fluid and cabin air filter. That's it.

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That is the fucking ugliest car I have ever seen. Fuck you and fuck your foreign car.
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Originally Posted by DirtyB

He actually has several cars, but the one he drives to work every day is his Nissan Leaf.

http://i.imgur.com/60Y1Qvo.jpg

It's 100% electric with no gas engine. You get 95 miles of range from a 3 hour charge. I love the single speed transmission with no stutters for gear changes like a normal car. But my favorite feature is the ability to turn on the air conditioning from an app on my phone, so I never have to get into a hot car. The lease is only $300/month and I save about $100 in gas per month. The same 1000 miles with the Leaf requires $10 worth of electricity. The maintenance schedule is ridiculous. Every two years you have to replace the brake fluid and cabin air filter. That's it.

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That is the fucking ugliest car I have ever seen. Fuck you and fuck your foreign car.
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you know you want to suck his hermes leaf dick.

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Originally Posted by cmoney

On the opposite side of the spectrum i just got this a week ago:



Plates filed under "PFA SFO"

0-60 3.8 secs
550 HP
10 MPG
.


I get the whole thing about saving the environment. Driving a fast car is a shitload of fun and it would be hard for me to give that up

Quite frankly I think there is a much higher chance of religious people destroying the planet MUCH sooner than anything man is creating that harms the environment. Like Hawkins has said, our only chance is to get to other planets and hedge our bets.

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This is ballin.

My old 2007 CTS had that same grill, don't see it very often. I recently traded it in for a 2013 ATS. Has the same enigine as my old CTS but the car is a bit smaller so it seems zippier. Obviously can't compete with the "V" though.

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Originally Posted by DirtyB

He actually has several cars, but the one he drives to work every day is his Nissan Leaf.

http://i.imgur.com/60Y1Qvo.jpg

It's 100% electric with no gas engine. You get 95 miles of range from a 3 hour charge. I love the single speed transmission with no stutters for gear changes like a normal car. But my favorite feature is the ability to turn on the air conditioning from an app on my phone, so I never have to get into a hot car. The lease is only $300/month and I save about $100 in gas per month. The same 1000 miles with the Leaf requires $10 worth of electricity. The maintenance schedule is ridiculous. Every two years you have to replace the brake fluid and cabin air filter. That's it.

Starting the car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adGIvLmEf0Y

You get some noise from wind and the tires, but it's an extremely quiet car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24MkOALPq20

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Congrats on paying $300/month for a luxury golf cart.

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That is the fucking ugliest car I have ever seen. Fuck you and fuck your foreign car.

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The car and the battery are manufactured in Tennessee.

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That is the fucking ugliest car I have ever seen. Fuck you and fuck your foreign car.

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The car and the battery are manufactured in Tennessee.

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All the money ends up with the japs.

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The car and the battery are manufactured in Tennessee.

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All the money ends up with the japs.

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good to still see people tryen to plug the leeks.

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Anyone who feels it necessary to buy a "luxury" model or excessively powerful car has a tiny penis.

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Anyone who feels it necessary to buy a "luxury" model or excessively powerful car has a tiny penis.

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That's why I ride a bike or walk.. Has nothing to do with DUI's like many think. My Cock size is why I chose to do that.

The most important part of owning an electric car, is telling everybody that you own an electric car.

I should get an electric car next if these gas prices in Michigan don't go down. Currently Michigan has the second highest average cost in the country even passed Alaska today and only trails Hawaii.

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The most important part of owning an electric car, is telling everybody that you own an electric car.

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Could you imagine a Vegan with a newborn child and no TV in their home owning one? Insufferable.

Tesla Is Giving Away All Of Its Ideas For Free
The Huffington Post | By Alexander C. Kaufman
06/12/2014 4:06 pm EDT

"Tesla is giving away its special sauce.

CEO Elon Musk pledged Thursday that the electric carmaker will not sue anyone who uses Tesla’s patented technology “in good faith,” in hopes of cultivating a bigger industry for rechargeable vehicles.

“If we clear a path to the creation of electric vehicles, but then lay intellectual property landmines behind us to inhibit others, we are acting in a manner contrary to that goal,” Musk wrote in a blog post. “Tesla will not initiate patent lawsuits against anyone who, in good faith, wants to use our technology.”

At a shareholder meeting earlier this month, Musk had hinted that he planned to do something “fairly controversial” with the company’s patents.

The rock star entrepreneur, who also founded the private space transport company SpaceX, said he originally secured patents to prevent the auto industry goliaths from absorbing Tesla’s trade secrets and crushing the startup. However, Musk said, the big players don't seem all that interested in Tesla's work.

Disappointed by what he described as big car companies’ “small to non-existent” investments in electric cars, Musk said he is letting others use the patented ideas in order to foster some creativity among other entrepreneurs.

Tesla pioneered the electric car market with its luxury Model S. By allowing others to use Tesla's good ideas, including patents on the technology used to build its network of supercharger stations, Musk could create more options for consumers looking to make the switch to an electric car."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5489237.html

Need for speed?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-27721749

Oh man that Leaf is the nutz.

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Originally Posted by cmoney

On the opposite side of the spectrum i just got this a week ago:



Plates filed under "PFA SFO"

0-60 3.8 secs
550 HP
10 MPG

I get the whole thing about saving the environment. Driving a fast car is a shitload of fun and it would be hard for me to give that up

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That is a sexy car!

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This thread should be re titled "Dweebs and guy with a huge wanker post here".

"sexy car"? What are you his girlfriend?

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Tesla Is Giving Away All Of Its Ideas For Free
The Huffington Post | By Alexander C. Kaufman
06/12/2014 4:06 pm EDT

"Tesla is giving away its special sauce.

CEO Elon Musk pledged Thursday that the electric carmaker will not sue anyone who uses Tesla’s patented technology “in good faith,” in hopes of cultivating a bigger industry for rechargeable vehicles.

“If we clear a path to the creation of electric vehicles, but then lay intellectual property landmines behind us to inhibit others, we are acting in a manner contrary to that goal,” Musk wrote in a blog post. “Tesla will not initiate patent lawsuits against anyone who, in good faith, wants to use our technology.”

At a shareholder meeting earlier this month, Musk had hinted that he planned to do something “fairly controversial” with the company’s patents.

The rock star entrepreneur, who also founded the private space transport company SpaceX, said he originally secured patents to prevent the auto industry goliaths from absorbing Tesla’s trade secrets and crushing the startup. However, Musk said, the big players don't seem all that interested in Tesla's work.

Disappointed by what he described as big car companies’ “small to non-existent” investments in electric cars, Musk said he is letting others use the patented ideas in order to foster some creativity among other entrepreneurs.

Tesla pioneered the electric car market with its luxury Model S. By allowing others to use Tesla's good ideas, including patents on the technology used to build its network of supercharger stations, Musk could create more options for consumers looking to make the switch to an electric car."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5489237.html

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Elon Musk is a genius. He knows that if he can grow the electric vehicle sector, that there will be most customers for the Tesla-Panasonic battery "gigafactory". I hope they build that thing here. I want to go on a tour.

I've had my car for a year now and I still adore it. It hasn't had a single problem. And you really don't miss stopping at gas stations.

paging dirtyb...

i was curious how you feel about your car after driving it for a few years

how has it held up? any early adopter remorse?

genuinely curious if you've had any problems with it, or do you like it as much as the day you bought it?

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Originally Posted by cmoney

On the opposite side of the spectrum i just got this a week ago:



Plates filed under "PFA SFO"

0-60 3.8 secs
550 HP
10 MPG
.


I get the whole thing about saving the environment. Driving a fast car is a shitload of fun and it would be hard for me to give that up

Quite frankly I think there is a much higher chance of religious people destroying the planet MUCH sooner than anything man is creating that harms the environment. Like Hawkins has said, our only chance is to get to other planets and hedge our bets.

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Thank you for buying a UAW-made car!

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paging dirtyb...

i was curious how you feel about your car after driving it for a few years

how has it held up? any early adopter remorse?

genuinely curious if you've had any problems with it, or do you like it as much as the day you bought it?

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When this thread was bumped I thought it was to take the piss out of this snafu

http://www.troyhunt.com/2016/02/cont...of-nissan.html

Cliffs:

The Nissan Leaf onboard computer can be remotely hacked; the hackers can then fuck about with some of the non-driving systems like the heating /AC.
Nissan since shuttered the app

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paging dirtyb...

i was curious how you feel about your car after driving it for a few years

how has it held up? any early adopter remorse?

genuinely curious if you've had any problems with it, or do you like it as much as the day you bought it?

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4 year review?

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paging dirtyb...

i was curious how you feel about your car after driving it for a few years

how has it held up? any early adopter remorse?

genuinely curious if you've had any problems with it, or do you like it as much as the day you bought it?

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4 year review?

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I bet he traded that shit 2 years ago,if not 3.

Very odd bump.

I drove that Leaf for 3 and a half years and it was a really great car. It's designed to be a comfortable commuter car and it did that remarkably well. The only problem it ever had was limited range. It started off with about 92 miles on a charge and after 3 brutal Vegas summers parked in an outdoor lot all day, it got down below 50 miles. I knew that was going to happen, and the resale value was going to suck, which is why I leased the car. Based on the Kelly Blue Book price when I gave it back in January, Nissan lost about $6500 on my lease.

Electric cars are clearly the future. Their adoption over the next few years will depend on gas prices. If gas spikes over $4.50, there will be a big rush. The buttery smooth acceleration without gear changes is so nice, and the massive low end torque is great for real world driving. My next car is probably going to be a Chevy Bolt.

http://www.caranddriver.com/chevrolet/bolt-ev