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Is anyone who was scammed interested in holding a phone conference to figure out next steps?
I'm still giving Jasep until the 6th to make it right before I'm interested in moving forward with any plans, however a united plan would make things a lot easier.
We need a full summary of exact dollar amounts, exact usernames, try to get final 22q numbers as well?
And just to plan things out going forward so we're all on the same page.
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Hey dude, I'm willing to help you out in this regard. Although I don't believe that my investment to the project will be lost because of paypal, I did still lose the money I sent him for 22q. I donated $50 directly to him for the 22q charity (I should have used the site sadly...) and I loaded up $28 to the poker site which I ran up to 60ish (I believed I had $10-15 left on there after bootsy raped me in 2/4 limit) which I told jasep to donate in the chat because I had to go to work.Quote:
Originally Posted by simpdog
[QUOTE=handicapme;126236]Hey dude, I'm willing to help you out in this regard. Although I don't believe that my investment to the project will be lost because of paypal, I did still lose the money I sent him for 22q. I donated $50 directly to him for the 22q charity (I should have used the site sadly...) and I loaded up $28 to the poker site which I ran up to 60ish (I believed I had $10-15 left on there after bootsy raped me in 2/4 limit) which I told jasep to donate in the chat because I had to go to work.[/QUOTEQuote:
Originally Posted by simpdog
I deposited $100, ran it up a little, transfered $70 to other accounts, and finally transferred $76 to Jasep at the end of the show.
Nope you did, I was going to re deposit but you sent me a stake for one of the tourney's I cashed in. Told me to just donate it which I in turn told Jasep to do with whatever was left over. Thanks for that btw!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bootsy CollinsDidn't I re-stake your losses back to you? I thought I did because I couldn't play day 2 of the tournaments. I could be thinking of someone else though.Quote:
Originally Posted by handicapme
Your welcome. But I guess that doesn't really matter now does it? :(Quote:
Originally Posted by handicapmeNope you did, I was going to re deposit but you sent me a stake for one of the tourney's I cashed in. Told me to just donate it which I in turn told Jasep to do with whatever was left over. Thanks for that btw!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bootsy Collins
I don't recall the exact figure, but I believe I gave ~$350 during the 22Q show to Jasep. Of course this money isn't owed back to me, it is owed to the 22Q foundation.
I think it is somewhere around $3k that is owed to 22Q
Donated $50, but if I'm right, the donations DID make it to 22Q correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by simpdog
Also, in case Jasep did blow the money as a degen AND will admit when and for how much, any chance to have the 22Q foundation contact the casino, tell them the whole story and perhaps they are willing to donate 'some' back, especially since for them. it's not a super high amount.
No. We don't have definitive proof, but it looks like the money that went to Jasep did not make it over to 22Q (around $3k). Others donated directly to 22Q (shoutout Beebs) and that money did get to them. I wouldn't bother contacting the casino. They're an institution filled with degens and are not going to have sympathy. Plus, if he lost the money playing poker, then the casino didn't even really get this money.Quote:
Originally Posted by DutchDoDoDonated $50, but if I'm right, the donations DID make it to 22Q correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by simpdog
Also, in case Jasep did blow the money as a degen AND will admit when and for how much, any chance to have the 22Q foundation contact the casino, tell them the whole story and perhaps they are willing to donate 'some' back, especially since for them. it's not a super high amount.
I understand that, but for them it's more to create some goodwill. Post a "Casino returns all stolen money to 22Q foundation" article in the newspaper and it's a win-win.Quote:
Originally Posted by PLOL
I looked at my paypal history and I donated approx $66 to the 22Q poker room, I didn't pull out any balance. The other $20 thankfully through 22Q direct during the podcast as I have that confirmation.
I only bought one share of his original Foxwoods BAP at $35 and rolled it over.
Hope the info helps.
I paid for 5 shares with a pokerstars transfer to playername stanbalcz
Tgats my buddies stars acc. All this was moved to sepQuote:
Originally Posted by offthetop
I am pretty sure the Stars was sent to my buddies account, I worked it out with him and then I sent SEP Blackchippoker for the stars. Not long after that Sep cashed out around 200 BCP and I shipped him paypal for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniacTgats my buddies stars acc. All this was moved to sepQuote:
Originally Posted by offthetop
Repost from the other thread:
Here is a list of money I sent to Jasep on Paypal since August 1, 2012:
August 27: $10 -- sent on behalf of Hockey Guy, for 22Q
Sept 1: $125 -- sent on behalf of Pooh, for 22Q
Sept 2: $5 -- sent on behalf of BUBBLES, not sure why
Sept 5: $20 -- sent on behalf of MrGreenThumb, for 22Q
Oct 3: $125 -- sent on behalf of Hockey Guy, for buying 3.47% of Jasep's action in something
Nov 8: $40 -- chopped freeroll on radio (prob the only legit money he has ever gotten here)
Jan 10: $20 -- sent on behalf of hotshott74, for deadpool
So in total, I shipped $155 to Jasep for the 22Q that likely never got sent to the foundation.
Hockey Guy probably got scammed an additional $125 for whatever piece he bought of Jasep in early October.
hotshott74 likely got scammed for his $20 for the deadpool (something I agreed to cover).
BUBBLES, do you remember why that $5 went to Jasep on Sept 2? That also might have been for 22Q, since it was right around that time.
So it appears $155-160 was sent by me to Jasep (on behalf of others) for 22Q.
I think i won that money from a freeroll, and wanted to donate it to the 22Q. Jasep probably bought a hella bunch of ramen noodles or lotto tickets with it.
The $10 Druff alluded to above was deposited into the poker room. I took that & a couple stakes(ironically Jasep staked me in the Main Event that I won) & ran it up to $89 & transferred it to Jasep in the poker room to donate to the charity as was our deal, 100% to the charity.
The $125 was to buy into his Foxwoods BAP for 3.5%. He supposedly ran it up to over $225 & this was used to buy into Projekt Sep for my 4 shares. Ironically, this original $125 was from the Templar debacle of which Jasep helped make people whole. I had already written the Templar stuff off as bad debt so I was freerolling.
This money is obviously bad luck since it has been used twice in scams.
Hockey Guy,Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockey Guy
Wasn't a Blind Squirrel Apparel clothing pack part of the prize for winning the main event? If so did you receive it?
You're kidding right? Of course I didn't receive it. It was a running joke in radio chat because I didn't really care & would jokingly bust his balls about it every chance I got. I guess I should have seen it as a red flag but......well you know the rest of the story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bootsy Collins
I'm all for a united plan, but why wait until the 6th? The day before he stopped answering e-mails/PMs, he PM'd me that he could get me my $103.25 refund via Paypal. ($100 bap money + LOL "profit"). When I sent the $100 via paypal, unfortunately I didn't tag it as "goods or services", so (apparently) I can't dispute it or charge it back.Quote:
Originally Posted by simpdog
I put $25 in the 22Q poker room and ran it up to $47 and told him to donate it. I bought into his project with roll over from a previous BAP profit. I rolled $50 and waiting for a few days before my profits came on the previous bap. I believe someone in the other thread said they had shipped paypal to him on the 8th and i recieved my paypal on the 9th
I donated $50 to 22Q through the link on VPR. I believe that went directly to the charity.
I was staked by Jasep for the charity tourneys and ran it up a little, then chunked it off playing the high roller. I think I had like $2 left in my account (gldstndrdftw) that I shipped back to Jasep.
I've been assured that this was the case. All donations through the link made it to 22q.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fergie72
WOW all the warning signs were there even before all the VPR info that has come to light,Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockey GuyYou're kidding right? Of course I didn't receive it. It was a running joke in radio chat because I didn't really care & would jokingly bust his balls about it every chance I got. I guess I should have seen it as a red flag but......well you know the rest of the story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bootsy Collins
your clothing package, the iPad fiasco for 1st place, the 4BET situation and the
rolling over debts into new debt, this facker just didn't like pay or just couldn't pay
too bad nobody connected the dots until it was too late