Guess who will pay the hike? Hear mickie d's on board.
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Guess who will pay the hike? Hear mickie d's on board.
Prices went up at In-N-Out. My usual cheeseburger (with onions) and medium diet coke has gone from (tax included) $6.56 to $6.78 to $7.00 in the last 6 months. It's still super cheap, so I am not complaining. I mean where else can you get lunch for 7 bucks?
Great news. Corporate profits are at record highs. No reason to not pay your employees more.
Fast food is all garbage.
You will be paying more to kill yourselves.
That's as bright as this guy.
LOL at the GOP being for the little guy.
I haven't eaten fast food in years,
but just pony up and stop crying like the snowflakes that you guys all are,
you esp Cerveza
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Originally Posted by JimmyG_415
LOL at thinking any politician cares about the little guy.
They just raised the price of the cheeseburgers by 10 cents today or yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dive_Bar_Dave
The best app to use for fast food and good deals is McDonald's. You can get a big Mac combo meal for $6.50 with the app. And they have good rakeback with their rewards. Spend $15 and get a free McChicken or cheeseburger. That's like 20% rakeback.
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Originally Posted by TexterQuote:
Originally Posted by JimmyG_415
LOL at thinking any politician besides Donald Trump cares about the little guy.
FYP.
Went up a quarter.
Most vices are taxed heavily. Cigarettes have huge taxes. I have long felt there should be a fat tax. Fast food and sodas should be taxed like cigarettes.
Type 2 diabetes is now the country's largest health expenditure.
A raise for lowly paid workers and a tax of sorts on people who will inevitably, on average, create a disproportionate bill for the taxpayers sounds like a win/win.
If you want to consume garbage, that's fine, but society has to eventually foot the bill for your lack of self control and self-respect.
Vice taxes are regressive and do not work well.
They mostly end up punishing the lower classes. You mention cigarettes. Since the danger of cigarette smoking has become known, which is basically our entire lifetime, there has been a decline in smoking among educated people. This has, in turn, led to an income disparity in smokers versus non-smokers:
https://truthinitiative.org/sites/de...?itok=LHsdkp8s
The fantasy of vice taxes is that you'll end up forcing the lower and lower-middle classes out of their vices, which will be for their own good. The reality is that they will just find a way to continue their vices, even if it means going without essentials.
When it comes to food, the concept is similar. It's more expensive and time-consuming to eat healthy. For people who work all day, a lot of them just want to get prepared meals and be done with it. If you don't have much money, your only option for this is fast food. The more expensive takeout stuff is out of reach for the lower and lower-middle classes.
There is also a myth regarding who is benefiting from the fast food minimum wage hike. It's largely teenagers and others under 21. Fast food has never been seen as a career, nor should it be. Nor should teenagers be worried about making a living wage. This is all recent left-wing bullshit, yet the system worked fine for decades before this.
The wage hikes have already done away with the cheap burder. Remember just about 5 or so years ago, when you could buy a quarter pound burger by itself for like $2.50? That's gone. All such burgers are like $7 minimum now, often more.
This was BEFORE the wage hike which just went into effect. COVID forced a wage hike to occur on its own, due to it being difficult to get workers from 2020-2022. When the government funds to stay home finally ended, there was still the issue of people having discovered gig work while receiving those government funds, and not wanting to go back to a traditional, low-paying jobs. Wages at these jobs rose in order to get quality workers back. If you recall, customer service in lower-paid positions was absolutely brutal in 2021-2022, and it's for that exact reason.
Finally, again, fast food places are often franchised. They are often NOT owned by giant, greedy corporations. They're typically owned by a small businessman who is just getting by. This fucks him badly, after he spent tons of money getting the whole place established (usually over $400k).
The purpose of vice taxes isn’t just the hope poor people give up their vices. Being successful or poor is the result of a thousand life decisions made from finishing one’s homework as a child onward.
Recouping money they’ll eventually cost the system is the better reason, and that expense should be drawn from those who partake in the activities that are voluntary and detrimental to all society. I have no care whatever demographic it impacts.
There is a straight line between obesity and health care expenditures. It’s the nations biggest health issue.
Fast food workers have been young because it doesn’t require education and it’s been lowly paid.
https://datausa.io/profile/soc/fast-...ounter-workers
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Originally Posted by Dan Druff
McDonald's app is god. $6.50 Big Mac meal.
Going to have to start bundeling or go to 2 dollar menu. Haven't seen any dollar menus at mickie ds. They are going to start charging for ketchup and condiments next. Our go to chinese is 50 dollars plus for 3 peops
Can Todd take some of the one hour a day that he types that Dems suck and Reps rock and do some other more productive things like pay the freeroll winners he is 9 months late in attending to?
As McCain said, you people aren’t getting anything done.
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Originally Posted by Dive_Bar_Dave
all you do is complain and shit on things around here. i haven't seen a good post from you. go away or just stfu.
Not true at all. 90% of my posts are not complaints. In this very thread I posted earlier and it was not a complaint (not really).
Anyway, go screw yourself.
Fatburger is thinking outside the box.
All drive throughs have been updated to weigh scales so if you drop twenty pounds between visits you get a free shake (cup not included)
Lol at a poor begging for crumbs, let the man vent about having to pay more for his cheeseburgers with no assurances of better customer service. Fuck your $20.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dive_Bar_Dave
What’s the point Frank? You either pay to live or die. Hopefully it’s at an Arby’sQuote:
Originally Posted by FRANKRIZZO
The single purpose of life is to last longer. You will be eaten at some stage.
Are you shitting on high school kids and their first job?
This just speeds up the inevitable replacement of low wage workers with robotics and AI.
Can’t raise it all at once, people will notice.Quote:
Originally Posted by dmndkutr
Raise it a little now….a little more next month…a little more the following….then have a sale back to the second raise
Then a double raise after the sale.
Sounds like Chrissies betting systemQuote:
Originally Posted by TexterCan’t raise it all at once, people will notice.Quote:
Originally Posted by dmndkutr
Raise it a little now….a little more next month…a little more the following….then have a sale back to the second raise
Then a double raise after the sale.
If memory serves, young Benjamin was born in 2010. This being 2024, will he be making bank at these fast food establishments some time soon?
Easy $20 an hour.
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Originally Posted by dmndkutr
$100k is the new $50k. $20 is the new $10. Is that “bank”? I suspect Ben would open your eyes to a tweener’s real world expenses. Inflation is what it is.
That Newsom is a weasel is the real issue. Thankfully, not my issue
Druff, his girlfriend, and Benjamin can all work at in n out and make over 6 figures combined for the household.Quote:
Originally Posted by dmndkutr
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Originally Posted by gauchojake
Minimum wage increase is short term positive long term destructive for entry level jobs.
Kids don't understand what the experience of a full service gas station was back in the day. Now its you and a credit card and you lucky if they have fresh windex out. The person who really gets fucked is the 15 year old boy who is denied an opportunity to do entry level work on cars. Shame
Check out any high school for free. https://www.d214.org/Page/3637Quote:
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Minimum wage increase is short term positive long term destructive for entry level jobs.
Kids don't understand what the experience of a full service gas station was back in the day. Now its you and a credit card and you lucky if they have fresh windex out. The person who really gets fucked is the 15 year old boy who is denied an opportunity to do entry level work on cars. Shame
Funny you mention this, because there's a fairly new (2022) gas station by me, and I noticed that the hours were shitty. Like it was closed by 8pm. Whenever I tried to go in the late evening or middle of the night, I couldn't get gas there.Quote:
Originally Posted by DalyThisQuote:
Originally Posted by gauchojake
Minimum wage increase is short term positive long term destructive for entry level jobs.
Kids don't understand what the experience of a full service gas station was back in the day. Now its you and a credit card and you lucky if they have fresh windex out. The person who really gets fucked is the 15 year old boy who is denied an opportunity to do entry level work on cars. Shame
Anyway one day I'm driving by and I see the pumps all lit up, yet the little mini-mart on the property was dark. I stopped by and, indeed, the pumps were turned on, but you couldn't interact with a human being. I filled up, and chalked it up to the dude forgetting to turn the pumps off (something I once saw occur at another gas station by me, which closes at 10).
But no. Apparently the owner decided just to leave everything on 24/7, even if he leaves the property by 8. So for about 12 hours per day, that gas station has zero employees, yet is open. I wonder how long until dude realizes that it's not worth his time (or worth paying an employee) to be there at all, and just lets it run itself.
This "3% added" trick has been going on for about a decade.Quote:
Originally Posted by desertrunner
The excuse used to be "in order to provide healthcare for employees", and in the above case, it's to "defray labor costs".
This is because many restaurants don't pay rent, but instead have a deal with the landlord to give a certain percentage of gross sales to them, regardless of profit.
Some clever owners started using this 3% surcharge trick in order to avoid passing that 3% on to the landlord. I'm not sure how it's legal, but it is somehow. I learned this from a friend who owns an LA restaurant. I went down to his place and noticed this 3% bullshit. I told him later, "I don't want to tell you how to run things, but just letting you know this sort of thing really gets customers angry, and I think you'd be better off just adding 3% to each item's price, as that won't be noticed nearly as much." He then explained to me that the 3% doesn't get shared with the landlord, which is a big savings to him. I then felt like a fool for giving advice to someone who knew way more about the industry than I did, and I apologized for the suggestion.
Once again, this looks like lies by statistics.Quote:
Originally Posted by dmndkutr
Average age of a fast food worker is 26.4? Even if that's true, what is the MEDIAN age? How come that isn't listed? That's the more important stat than average. If a fast food place has one 50-year-old, one 20-year-old, and two 16-year-olds, the average age is 25.5.
Then there's the matter of "average salary". Looks brutal when you see $14k, but is this full time? Most fast food workers are part time.
Finally, it does not define what a fast food "worker" is. Does this include the manager? The owner-manager? I bet it does. Obviously the manager is old, but is also better paid. Any owner-manager shouldn't even count.
"The minimum wage has not kept up with the cost of living" is another left wing lie.
I know this because I worked for minimum wage at a grocery store in early 1990. I made $4.25 per hour.
That translates to $10.35 today. Go check it out for yourself: https://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc...1&year2=202402
Somehow the minimum wage wasn't a huge issue in 1990, but today it's made out to be greedy corporations exploiting the lower classes.
It's all just rhetoric.