Mystery and controversy surrounds Nex Benedict, a 16-year-old "nonbinary" girl who got in a fight at school, then died the next day

At first, it seemed like a horrendous hate crime occurring in an Oklahoma high school.

Nex Benedict, who was 16, was biologically female but identified as "non binary". She had complained about "bullying" at the school against her and her friends. A fight in the bathroom occurred involving Nex on February 7th, who despite walking out under her own power, died the next day on the 8th. The altercation occurred between Nex versus three older girls, taking place in the girls bathroom at Owasso High School.

Here's a picture of Nex Benedict:

https://images.newson6.com/kotv/prod...0.617&fit=crop


This tragic story sent the sanctimonious left into an outrage. It appeared that Nex was bullied for her gender identity, attempted to stand up for herself, and then was beaten to death by three girls for doing so. A story went around that the three girls took Nex's head and repeatedly slammed it onto the floor of the bathroom. Many on the left were claiming that this is the new reality, where transgender people are under grave threat of bigoted and deadly attacks against them. Some even histrionically claimed that Trump winning the 2024 election would be the beginning of an extermination process of LGBT people.

However, the release of Nex's texts that day, along with a statement from local police, have raised a lot of questions. In fact, it appears that Nex was not murdered at all, and her death had nothing to do with any injuries sustained in the fight, which had appeared to be minor. Also, it appeared Nex instigated the bathroom fight by pouring water on three girls she didn't like. The fight was said to have lasted for 2 minutes, before being broken up by other girls in the bathroom.

Shortly after the bathroom fight, the following texts were sent by Nex to a friend:

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I got jumped at school, 3 on 1, had to go to ER

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They had been bullying me and my friends and I got tired of it so I poured some water on them and all 3 came after me. School did not report it and is probably going to getting sued

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After the ER cleared her injuries as extremely minor and sent her home, Nex texted the same friend:

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All good, just scraped and bruises. Got a shot in the butt for my pain but I’m still dizzy and nauseous in the morning. I might have a concussion.

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Sometime after that text on the same morning, Nex collapsed, and was pronounced dead at the local hospital.


This would seem to be related to the concussion she claimed to have. However, the police released a report stating:

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While the investigation continues into the altercation. Preliminary information from the medical examiner’s office is that a complete autopsy was performed and indicated that the decedent did not die as a result of trauma. At this time, any further comments on the cause of death are currently pending until toxicology results and other ancillary testing results are received. The official autopsy report will be available at a later date.

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The autopsy seemed to reveal the cause of death, and it was NOT a direct result of the fight! The cause was not released, though.

So what was it?

Clearly she wasn't feeling well in the morning prior to collapsing, texting that she was "dizzy and nauseous".

So what killed her, if it wasn't related to the fight?

My guess is that she had a bad reaction to the "shot in the butt" she got at the ER for her pain. It might have reacted with an allergy she didn't know she had, or brought on some other issue, such as an undiagnosed heart condition.

I don't think suicide is likely, because she seemed to be in semi-good spirits when texting the friend, aside from feeling sick.

If it's not a reaction to the shot, another possibility is that she self-medicated the pain, and had an accidental OD.

No charges have been filed, and probably won't be, as the girls hitting Nex after having water thrown on them would not be considered a crime.


Anyway, this most recent news is upsetting to the left, because they were seeking to portray this tragedy as open season on trans people. In this case, it appears Nex followed three girls into the bathroom in order to dump water on them, a small fight broke out, and then something happened after that which killed her, not directly related to the fight.

It is probably true that the three girls had been bullying her, and the water was Nex's revenge plot. Maybe she didn't think they'd actually hit her in response, and they did. But this looks like a typical high school fight with a tragic but mostly unrelated death the following day, and not a savage, bigoted beating of a "non binary" person.

The left cannot accept any of the facts provided, and the current narrative is that the police are lying. Dumb.

Oh and the idiot left has been blaming LibsOfTiktok (Chaya Raichik) for this.

Why?

Because LibsOfTiktok coincidentally got a teacher fired in the same school, a week beforehand.

As if that had anything to do with any of this. But it didn't stop histrionic claims that LibsofTiktok "GOT A TRANS KID MURDERED!!!!111"


The left is just so dishonest about everything.

They've long despised the LibsOfTiktok account because it exposes bad behavior by the left on social media, at schools, and at corporations and organizations. The left wants all of this shit to stay quiet, so they get really mad at LibsOfTiktok when these things get exposed, and there's public outrage over what was supposed to be a secret (or at worst, a small local controversy).

So they'll do or say anything to get LibsOfTiktok discredited, even if it means exploiting a teenager's death.

Unless they've moved Garth Books and Tricia Yearwood live in Owasso. Garth's kids were going to school there.

Later fag?

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

At first, it seemed like a horrendous hate crime occurring in an Oklahoma high school.

Nex Benedict, who was 16, was biologically female but identified as "non binary". She had complained about "bullying" at the school against her and her friends. A fight in the bathroom occurred involving Nex on February 7th, who despite walking out under her own power, died the next day on the 8th. The altercation occurred between Nex versus three older girls, taking place in the girls bathroom at Owasso High School.

Here's a picture of Nex Benedict:

https://images.newson6.com/kotv/prod...0.617&fit=crop


This tragic story sent the sanctimonious left into an outrage. It appeared that Nex was bullied for her gender identity, attempted to stand up for herself, and then was beaten to death by three girls for doing so. A story went around that the three girls took Nex's head and repeatedly slammed it onto the floor of the bathroom. Many on the left were claiming that this is the new reality, where transgender people are under grave threat of bigoted and deadly attacks against them. Some even histrionically claimed that Trump winning the 2024 election would be the beginning of an extermination process of LGBT people.

However, the release of Nex's texts that day, along with a statement from local police, have raised a lot of questions. In fact, it appears that Nex was not murdered at all, and her death had nothing to do with any injuries sustained in the fight, which had appeared to be minor. Also, it appeared Nex instigated the bathroom fight by pouring water on three girls she didn't like. The fight was said to have lasted for 2 minutes, before being broken up by other girls in the bathroom.

Shortly after the bathroom fight, the following texts were sent by Nex to a friend:

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They had been bullying me and my friends and I got tired of it so I poured some water on them and all 3 came after me. School did not report it and is probably going to getting sued

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After the ER cleared her injuries as extremely minor and sent her home, Nex texted the same friend:

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All good, just scraped and bruises. Got a shot in the butt for my pain but IÂ’m still dizzy and nauseous in the morning. I might have a concussion.

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Sometime after that text on the same morning, Nex collapsed, and was pronounced dead at the local hospital.


This would seem to be related to the concussion she claimed to have. However, the police released a report stating:

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While the investigation continues into the altercation. Preliminary information from the medical examinerÂ’s office is that a complete autopsy was performed and indicated that the decedent did not die as a result of trauma. At this time, any further comments on the cause of death are currently pending until toxicology results and other ancillary testing results are received. The official autopsy report will be available at a later date.

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The autopsy seemed to reveal the cause of death, and it was NOT a direct result of the fight! The cause was not released, though.

So what was it?

Clearly she wasn't feeling well in the morning prior to collapsing, texting that she was "dizzy and nauseous".

So what killed her, if it wasn't related to the fight?

My guess is that she had a bad reaction to the "shot in the butt" she got at the ER for her pain. It might have reacted with an allergy she didn't know she had, or brought on some other issue, such as an undiagnosed heart condition.

I don't think suicide is likely, because she seemed to be in semi-good spirits when texting the friend, aside from feeling sick.

If it's not a reaction to the shot, another possibility is that she self-medicated the pain, and had an accidental OD.

No charges have been filed, and probably won't be, as the girls hitting Nex after having water thrown on them would not be considered a crime.


Anyway, this most recent news is upsetting to the left, because they were seeking to portray this tragedy as open season on trans people. In this case, it appears Nex followed three girls into the bathroom in order to dump water on them, a small fight broke out, and then something happened after that which killed her, not directly related to the fight.

It is probably true that the three girls had been bullying her, and the water was Nex's revenge plot. Maybe she didn't think they'd actually hit her in response, and they did. But this looks like a typical high school fight with a tragic but mostly unrelated death the following day, and not a savage, bigoted beating of a "non binary" person.

The left cannot accept any of the facts provided, and the current narrative is that the police are lying. Dumb.

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Could be an allergic reaction, but seems doubtful.

I think I’d still bet on suicide. I don’t make much of her “I poured water on them” text.

Kids lie and are full of false bravado and aren’t likely to tell their friends they cowered to bullies or act like it bothered them.

I think almost all of the gender confused are mentally ill, so it feels like waking up, dreading going to school or dealing with it again, and opting out via suicide are slightly more likely than an allergic reaction. If it happened night of then an allergic reaction would be more likely.

Most times a serious allergic reaction happens quickly. And more lip swelling, airway constriction, etc.

They likely didn’t give her any serious pain shot for injuries they deemed minor. NSAID and heart are a thing though, so that’s possible, but still feel like it’s more likely she ingested something fatal.

I also don’t think they necessarily know what killed her from that autopsy report. They know what didn’t. She didn’t have some hematoma from banging her head off a sink or blunt trauma to chest. Leads me to think they are waiting to see what she ingested.

That’s just my guess.

Parental units sound a bit sketch having named her Nex …. they gifted her with long odds

Doubtful we are looking at a trad nuclear family

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPChAQw7rrM


She told this water story to police, too.

My guess is it's true.

Seems like she didn't follow them into the bathroom to start a fight, but rather heard them commenting about her while in the bathroom, and threw water on them in retaliation.

ITT: worlds biggest bunch of fucking retarded tool bags

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ITT: worlds biggest bunch of fucking retarded tool bags

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Why?

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Originally Posted by 1marley1

ITT: worlds biggest bunch of fucking retarded tool bags

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Why?

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You have nothing fucking better to do?

The left, the left… blah blah blah… bunch of ‘lefties’ on this site right? How many posted about this kid? 0.0??

Why are you so hung up on other peoples sex gender? You’re not actually retarded… so you know there’s a spectrum… more testosterone less testosterone, intersex, ambiguous genitalia etc… it’s none of your fucking business. A little kid with a hard life died show some compassion or better yet, just find something better to talk about.

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Why?

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You have nothing fucking better to do?

The left, the left… blah blah blah… bunch of ‘lefties’ on this site right? How many posted about this kid? 0.0??

Why are you so hung up on other peoples sex gender? You’re not actually retarded… so you know there’s a spectrum… more testosterone less testosterone, intersex, ambiguous genitalia etc… it’s none of your fucking business. A little kid with a hard life died show some compassion or better yet, just find something better to talk about.

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This is a complaint about the media and left wing Twitter influencers, who exploit tragic deaths like these to push a histrionic narrative about anti-trans hate crimes.

I do have compassion for the girl. Whatever happened, she definitely didn't deserve to die. I even believe that the water she threw on the girls really was in response to a repeated pattern of verbal bullying. It looks like some tragic event occurred to take her life, but it was probably not directly related to the fight, but more likely a pain pill OD or something like that.

The truth is that most trans murders are a result of either domestic violence or sex work. Murders directly targeting trans people for their identity are quite rare, but the left wants you to believe that it's an epidemic threatening the lives of all trans people everywhere.

Here's the headline from Daily Kos:

"Libs of TikTok targeted a district, then a non-binary student was killed on campus"

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/202...lled-on-campus



This is my issue.

That article was fucking terrible…

You think Daily Kos is ‘the left’… who the fuck reads this shit?

Media ratings says daily Kos is 5th least trusted news tied with Breitbart…

Does Breitbart speak for ‘the right’?

Also why misgender the dead kid that you have compassion for??

Is Druff supposed to say “they” as a gender?

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Is Druff supposed to say “they” as a gender?

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69% of PFA agree!

https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sh...light=Pronouns

Covid booster got her. #split

Note split would say her vs they, just like druff.

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That article was fucking terrible…

You think Daily Kos is ‘the left’… who the fuck reads this shit?

Media ratings says daily Kos is 5th least trusted news tied with Breitbart…

Does Breitbart speak for ‘the right’?

Also why misgender the dead kid that you have compassion for??

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You're just a miserable leftist fuckstick troll Marley. Stop making excuses for mental illness being reclassified. The same assholes claiming the explosion in transgenderism is normal (its not its perpetuating something known as Im confused about my gender bullshit hell if a kid decided he was a car or dog would people be taking them to a vet to be seen and be made when the Vet tells them the kid is mental?)

the same pysch docs decided pedophilia is a sexual preference. Yeah that right there disqualifies them from deciding if a kid is legit trans. Numbers prove this is all pyschobabble bullshit but hey when we transition these mentally ill they cant ever reproduce meaning ... lower population.

From watching the video of this girl, I do not believe she was actually trans. Her mannerisms were fairly feminine, and she even retained a mostly feminine look.

Indeed, she identified as "non-binary", rather than male.

For the most part, I believe non-binary is a copout, where someone wants to have a trans identity but doesn't want to actually live as the opposite gender.

We have gotten away from what trans was supposed to be -- switching to the other gender in order to alleviate the deep psychological pain of gender dysphoria.

This girl does not appear to have had gender dysphoria at all. She was probably just a bit "different" and had a hard time fitting in with other girls, so I'm guessing that's what led her to fall into the trans community.

Those with gender dysphoria are miserable being their birth gender. They hate their body and their secondary sex characteristics, and wish very badly they had been born the opposite sex. For these people, transitioning can sometimes provide psychological relief, but of course this should be held off until they're adults, as often these feelings resolve themselves by adulthood.

I think the left is doing incredible damage by validating the idea of 100 genders and bizarre pronouns, as they are simply confusing today's youth into thinking they're trans simply because they're a bit different or gender nonconforming.

The message should be that it's fine to be an effeminate boy or masculine girl, and that people should be accepting of such differences. The message should NOT be that you are "trans" if you're not like everyone else.

BUMP

Turned out it actually was suicide: https://people.com/nex-benedict-caus...ullied-8608937


Social media libs have egg on their face, after insisting this was a targeted murder or brutal beating of a trans teen.

Some more information has since come out about this situation:

- The girls who fought with Nex were actually freshmen, thus were younger than her, not older.

- Nex did not know these girls. While in the bathroom, she perceived that they were laughing at her, so she threw water on them, thus starting the altercation.


So it looks like these girls were not habitual bullies, and they weren't at fault for any of this.

Nex did complain about routine bullying at the school, and parents at the school have complained that in general school officials have ignored or poorly handled past bullying complaints. I actually believe all of that.

Here's a little secret about school bullying in modern times:

The left wants you to believe that they're the ones actively fighting bullies, whereas the cold, callous right just wants kids to harden up and deal with it.

But that's not what's actually happening. "Restorative justice" is an idiotic, permissive left wing methodology, dealing with crime and punishment. However, it has made it into many school districts in recent years. Restorative justice in schools eschews punishment in favor of making kids understand why they misbehaved.

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Restorative justice views “harm” as a fracturing of relationships, rather than something that demands punishment. A restorative justice process is a way to uncover true needs and heal relationships via meaningful accountability.

How might restorative justice apply to a conflict? Restorative justice allows the impacted parties to talk about what happened, how they are feeling about it now, the impact it had on everyone, and ultimately what can be done to make it as right as possible.

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As you can imagine, this approach completely fails in a school setting. This is because kids lack maturity, and they simply equate lack of punishment with the ability to get away with more. If you know that beating up a kid you hate will get you suspended, you might think twice about it. If you know that you'll simply be brought into the office to talk about your feelings, you probably won't hesitate to beat up that kid.

Modern public schools taking the restorative justice approach like to talk tough about "zero tolerance bullying policies", but it's all bullshit. Their restorative justice shit is the opposite of zero tolerance, and the kids learn this quickly.

Of course, as with many left wing ideologies, there ends up with conflict and hypocrisy. Lefty school administrators want a restorative justice system of discipline, but at the same time, they want LGTBQ students protected. The problem is that you can't have both at the same time. The same permissive restorative justice system which gives endless chances to bad kids with no punishment also enables no-consequence bullying against "different" kids -- including those who are LGBTQ.

I have no idea if this particular school has restorative justice policies. But if they do, it's very believable that Nex's parents complained about her being bullied, and nothing was done. Perhaps she felt helpless to stop it, and committed suicide after that last fight. If that's the case, school administrators should be blamed, and the school's policies regarding handling bullying complaints should be examined.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

BUMP

Turned out it actually was suicide: https://people.com/nex-benedict-caus...ullied-8608937


Social media libs have egg on their face, after insisting this was a targeted murder or brutal beating of a trans teen.

Some more information has since come out about this situation:

- The girls who fought with Nex were actually freshmen, thus were younger than her, not older.

- Nex did not know these girls. While in the bathroom, she perceived that they were laughing at her, so she threw water on them, thus starting the altercation.


So it looks like these girls were not habitual bullies, and they weren't at fault for any of this.

Nex did complain about routine bullying at the school, and parents at the school have complained that in general school officials have ignored or poorly handled past bullying complaints. I actually believe all of that.

Here's a little secret about school bullying in modern times:

The left wants you to believe that they're the ones actively fighting bullies, whereas the cold, callous right just wants kids to harden up and deal with it.

But that's not what's actually happening. "Restorative justice" is an idiotic, permissive left wing methodology, dealing with crime and punishment. However, it has made it into many school districts in recent years. Restorative justice in schools eschews punishment in favor of making kids understand why they misbehaved.

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Restorative justice views “harm” as a fracturing of relationships, rather than something that demands punishment. A restorative justice process is a way to uncover true needs and heal relationships via meaningful accountability.

How might restorative justice apply to a conflict? Restorative justice allows the impacted parties to talk about what happened, how they are feeling about it now, the impact it had on everyone, and ultimately what can be done to make it as right as possible.

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As you can imagine, this approach completely fails in a school setting. This is because kids lack maturity, and they simply equate lack of punishment with the ability to get away with more. If you know that beating up a kid you hate will get you suspended, you might think twice about it. If you know that you'll simply be brought into the office to talk about your feelings, you probably won't hesitate to beat up that kid.

Modern public schools taking the restorative justice approach like to talk tough about "zero tolerance bullying policies", but it's all bullshit. Their restorative justice shit is the opposite of zero tolerance, and the kids learn this quickly.

Of course, as with many left wing ideologies, there ends up with conflict and hypocrisy. Lefty school administrators want a restorative justice system of discipline, but at the same time, they want LGTBQ students protected. The problem is that you can't have both at the same time. The same permissive restorative justice system which gives endless chances to bad kids with no punishment also enables no-consequence bullying against "different" kids -- including those who are LGBTQ.

I have no idea if this particular school has restorative justice policies. But if they do, it's very believable that Nex's parents complained about her being bullied, and nothing was done. Perhaps she felt helpless to stop it, and committed suicide after that last fight. If that's the case, school administrators should be blamed, and the school's policies regarding handling bullying complaints should be examined.

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Most alt right accounts been saying "overdose" but not mentioning suicide. If they were being bullied heavily and killed themselves the next day after being attacked that doesn't really invalidate much... I mean really is your point "haha they didn't die of being attacked but instead killed themselves over ongoing harassment and a current political client that constantly makes them out to be mentally deranged and child predators?"

also Druff your take was completely wrong but have no problem calling out the left here. quote below

"So what killed her, if it wasn't related to the fight?

My guess is that she had a bad reaction to the "shot in the butt" she got at the ER for her pain. It might have reacted with an allergy she didn't know she had, or brought on some other issue, such as an undiagnosed heart condition.

I don't think suicide is likely, because she seemed to be in semi-good spirits when texting the friend, aside from feeling sick.

If it's not a reaction to the shot, another possibility is that she self-medicated the pain, and had an accidental OD.

No charges have been filed, and probably won't be, as the girls hitting Nex after having water thrown on them would not be considered a crime."

Also zero tolerance for bullying is literally impossible to enforce. Even defining bullying is extremely difficult and the conflict is often not entirely one sided. Sure once in awhile you have a classic bullying situation where it can be done but it is far from the norm.

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BUMP

Turned out it actually was suicide: https://people.com/nex-benedict-caus...ullied-8608937


Social media libs have egg on their face, after insisting this was a targeted murder or brutal beating of a trans teen.

Some more information has since come out about this situation:

- The girls who fought with Nex were actually freshmen, thus were younger than her, not older.

- Nex did not know these girls. While in the bathroom, she perceived that they were laughing at her, so she threw water on them, thus starting the altercation.


So it looks like these girls were not habitual bullies, and they weren't at fault for any of this.

Nex did complain about routine bullying at the school, and parents at the school have complained that in general school officials have ignored or poorly handled past bullying complaints. I actually believe all of that.

Here's a little secret about school bullying in modern times:

The left wants you to believe that they're the ones actively fighting bullies, whereas the cold, callous right just wants kids to harden up and deal with it.

But that's not what's actually happening. "Restorative justice" is an idiotic, permissive left wing methodology, dealing with crime and punishment. However, it has made it into many school districts in recent years. Restorative justice in schools eschews punishment in favor of making kids understand why they misbehaved.



As you can imagine, this approach completely fails in a school setting. This is because kids lack maturity, and they simply equate lack of punishment with the ability to get away with more. If you know that beating up a kid you hate will get you suspended, you might think twice about it. If you know that you'll simply be brought into the office to talk about your feelings, you probably won't hesitate to beat up that kid.

Modern public schools taking the restorative justice approach like to talk tough about "zero tolerance bullying policies", but it's all bullshit. Their restorative justice shit is the opposite of zero tolerance, and the kids learn this quickly.

Of course, as with many left wing ideologies, there ends up with conflict and hypocrisy. Lefty school administrators want a restorative justice system of discipline, but at the same time, they want LGTBQ students protected. The problem is that you can't have both at the same time. The same permissive restorative justice system which gives endless chances to bad kids with no punishment also enables no-consequence bullying against "different" kids -- including those who are LGBTQ.

I have no idea if this particular school has restorative justice policies. But if they do, it's very believable that Nex's parents complained about her being bullied, and nothing was done. Perhaps she felt helpless to stop it, and committed suicide after that last fight. If that's the case, school administrators should be blamed, and the school's policies regarding handling bullying complaints should be examined.

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Most alt right accounts been saying "overdose" but not mentioning suicide. If they were being bullied heavily and killed themselves the next day after being attacked that doesn't really invalidate much... I mean really is your point "haha they didn't die of being attacked but instead killed themselves over ongoing harassment and a current political client that constantly makes them out to be mentally deranged and child predators?"

also Druff your take was completely wrong but have no problem calling out the left here. quote below

"So what killed her, if it wasn't related to the fight?

My guess is that she had a bad reaction to the "shot in the butt" she got at the ER for her pain. It might have reacted with an allergy she didn't know she had, or brought on some other issue, such as an undiagnosed heart condition.

I don't think suicide is likely, because she seemed to be in semi-good spirits when texting the friend, aside from feeling sick.

If it's not a reaction to the shot, another possibility is that she self-medicated the pain, and had an accidental OD.

No charges have been filed, and probably won't be, as the girls hitting Nex after having water thrown on them would not be considered a crime."

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Yes, my guess was incorrect.

But that's why I called it a GUESS.

I made it clear that I had no clue what happened, but based upon the info at the time, it was unlikely she died from injuries sustained in the bathroom fight.

The left was screaming about a nonbinary person being murdered by bullies, and circulating false stories of Nex's head being slammed into the floor and/or the paper towel dispenser. This was all false.

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Also zero tolerance for bullying is literally impossible to enforce. Even defining bullying is extremely difficult and the conflict is often not entirely one sided. Sure once in awhile you have a classic bullying situation where it can be done but it is far from the norm.

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True zero tolerance is impossible, and in fact it has been tried in the past and implemented poorly, such as schools which auto-suspended kids for physical fighting, regardless of whether one was just defending himself.

But solving bullying actually isn't all that hard in suburban schools.

When receiving bullying complaints, you call in (separately) the kids involved. You also ask the victim for witnesses, if any. You get the full story from everyone.

If it's clear that bullying occurred, you give the bully some kid of moderate punishment like detention, plus contact their parents and make them understand that further instances of this will result in suspension.

If it's not clear exactly what occurred, you tell the alleged bully to have zero contact with the victim, and never to talk to or about them anywhere on campus, unless directed to do so by a teacher. You then tell the alleged bully that violating this will result in severe consequences.

Done.

This tactic won't work in schools with a lot of gang members or hardened criminals, but it would work great in a suburban school.

Where it doesn't work is when you start injecting touch-feely "restorative justice" bullshit into the mix, where the focus is placed upon the bully understanding himself, rather than just putting a stop to the harmful behavior.

In fact, like many things in schools nowadays, the restorative justice bullshit is a policy that has been quietly woven into district policy, without any transparency or visibility to parents.

From the outside, it seems that schools have toughened on bullying, trumpeting these BS "zero tolerance" stances, and saying all the right thing about how bullying is taken extremely seriously on campus.

But once you look inside, you see that the actual policy is quite different. Most people working in school administration are on the political left, and they've learned to hide in plain sight. They say reasonable-sounding things at school board meetings and district communications, but they have a quiet agenda to push left wing propaganda to the students, and to enact left wing policies in governing the schools.

This was way Glenn Youngkin had the unexpected gubernatorial victory in Virginia. One of these situations was exposed, and it outraged parents when they learned how little control they had, and how districts decided to essentially cut them out of the loop.

This is also why the left despises accounts like Libs of Tiktok, which routinely expose wrongdoing and cover-ups at schools across the nation.

I'm not just pulling this shit from right wing social media, though. I recently helped a friend with a bullying situation with their kid. They were running into a wall and being double-talked by the school, while their kid was suffering. Had nothing to do with LGBTQ stuff, just standard school bullying stuff. I was not allowed to be involved in the process, having no relation to the kid, but I helped advise the parents and ghost-wrote emails for them. This was how I learned about the entire restorative justice thing, of which I had no clue existed before. The problem was finally solved, but you'd be shocked the effort it took to get the school to act on what was not a difficult situation to solve. The school wouldn't even contact the main bully's parents!

Upon further research, I realized this was not just one particularly shitty district or school, but commonplace all over.

The bullying issue in schools today is a product of the left's delusional policies and failure to take control of the schools they run.

so does anyone know how she committed suicide, was that ever released ?

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so does anyone know how she committed suicide, was that ever released ?

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Yes, she took pills.

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From watching the video of this girl, I do not believe she was actually trans. Her mannerisms were fairly feminine, and she even retained a mostly feminine look.

Indeed, she identified as "non-binary", rather than male.

For the most part, I believe non-binary is a copout, where someone wants to have a trans identity but doesn't want to actually live as the opposite gender.

We have gotten away from what trans was supposed to be -- switching to the other gender in order to alleviate the deep psychological pain of gender dysphoria.

This girl does not appear to have had gender dysphoria at all. She was probably just a bit "different" and had a hard time fitting in with other girls, so I'm guessing that's what led her to fall into the trans community.

Those with gender dysphoria are miserable being their birth gender. They hate their body and their secondary sex characteristics, and wish very badly they had been born the opposite sex. For these people, transitioning can sometimes provide psychological relief, but of course this should be held off until they're adults, as often these feelings resolve themselves by adulthood.

I think the left is doing incredible damage by validating the idea of 100 genders and bizarre pronouns, as they are simply confusing today's youth into thinking they're trans simply because they're a bit different or gender nonconforming.

The message should be that it's fine to be an effeminate boy or masculine girl, and that people should be accepting of such differences. The message should NOT be that you are "trans" if you're not like everyone else.

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Back in the day we used to call them tomboys

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomboy

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Also zero tolerance for bullying is literally impossible to enforce. Even defining bullying is extremely difficult and the conflict is often not entirely one sided. Sure once in awhile you have a classic bullying situation where it can be done but it is far from the norm.

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True zero tolerance is impossible, and in fact it has been tried in the past and implemented poorly, such as schools which auto-suspended kids for physical fighting, regardless of whether one was just defending himself.

But solving bullying actually isn't all that hard in suburban schools.

When receiving bullying complaints, you call in (separately) the kids involved. You also ask the victim for witnesses, if any. You get the full story from everyone.

If it's clear that bullying occurred, you give the bully some kid of moderate punishment like detention, plus contact their parents and make them understand that further instances of this will result in suspension.

If it's not clear exactly what occurred, you tell the alleged bully to have zero contact with the victim, and never to talk to or about them anywhere on campus, unless directed to do so by a teacher. You then tell the alleged bully that violating this will result in severe consequences.

Done.

This tactic won't work in schools with a lot of gang members or hardened criminals, but it would work great in a suburban school.

Where it doesn't work is when you start injecting touch-feely "restorative justice" bullshit into the mix, where the focus is placed upon the bully understanding himself, rather than just putting a stop to the harmful behavior.

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Without getting into a huge discussion... The 10% of bullying that is physical is really easy to address as its a legal crime. Schools really need to have close to a zero tolerance position for physical assault. I'm more so referring to the 90 percent of bullying which is not physical and typically directed at those with poor social skills, low frustration tolerance, and major anger control issues. I'd actually compare it to trying to solve the bullying issues that go on in this forum. When you actually look at policies that work for that it's more so done at a systemic level and improving environment rather than working with individuals 1-1.

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From watching the video of this girl, I do not believe she was actually trans. Her mannerisms were fairly feminine, and she even retained a mostly feminine look.

Indeed, she identified as "non-binary", rather than male.

For the most part, I believe non-binary is a copout, where someone wants to have a trans identity but doesn't want to actually live as the opposite gender.

We have gotten away from what trans was supposed to be -- switching to the other gender in order to alleviate the deep psychological pain of gender dysphoria.

This girl does not appear to have had gender dysphoria at all. She was probably just a bit "different" and had a hard time fitting in with other girls, so I'm guessing that's what led her to fall into the trans community.

Those with gender dysphoria are miserable being their birth gender. They hate their body and their secondary sex characteristics, and wish very badly they had been born the opposite sex. For these people, transitioning can sometimes provide psychological relief, but of course this should be held off until they're adults, as often these feelings resolve themselves by adulthood.

I think the left is doing incredible damage by validating the idea of 100 genders and bizarre pronouns, as they are simply confusing today's youth into thinking they're trans simply because they're a bit different or gender nonconforming.

The message should be that it's fine to be an effeminate boy or masculine girl, and that people should be accepting of such differences. The message should NOT be that you are "trans" if you're not like everyone else.

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Back in the day we used to call them tomboys

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomboy

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I agree with you.

This is more regressive left wing nonsense.

Rather than the correct message of, "Understand that some boys will be effeminate and some girls will be masculine, and you should be accepting and non-judgmental of them", the left is currently pushing the idea that males and females need to act in rigid, stereotypical fashion, and if they don't, they must not be their birth gender. So a girl with some masculine traits or styles is strongly encouraged to either call herself a boy or identify as "nonbinary", instead of simply a masculine girl. Dumb.

It's especially dumb because most kids grow out of this, and naturally snap back to more typical gender presentations. Go look up the tomboys you knew back in school in the '80s. You'll see that some of them remained masculine and came out as lesbians, but many others married men and look traditionally feminine. Imagine if those girls were given hormones, sterilized, had their breasts cut off, and told they were boys. Very harmful, and history will indicate that when this stupid craze ends.