They flew too close to the sun.
Odds on them being found in time. 1%
Odds on them being found at all. 20%
Odds on foul play. 30%
Odds on titanic spirits fucking with them. 20%
Too much rich in enclosed space.
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They flew too close to the sun.
Odds on them being found in time. 1%
Odds on them being found at all. 20%
Odds on foul play. 30%
Odds on titanic spirits fucking with them. 20%
Too much rich in enclosed space.
Watched on news they said it went 2.5 miles down lost contact over 24 hours ago now
Doesn't seem it will end well British World Traveler on board also maybe a Pakistani wealthy person they said
Hard to believe anything would go wrong with the sub literally steered by a video game console. They were to be on for 8 days, with 5 people crammed in there. Why would anyone think that is a good experience to be in that thing, all to see a ship 90% decayed. Pretty ironic the owner in the video casually flipped the controller, now they can't fine the crew.Quote:
Originally Posted by garrett
The guy on board that is a billionaire is Hamish Harding. He is an aviation guru, who is known worldwide for taking 86 year old astronaut Buss Aldrin to the South Pole. Looks like this is his last adventure.
Video game sub:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClkytJa0ghc
Next someone else will have a new submersible, charging 500k to go see titanic and the other sub with fresh dead bodies.
Agreed, also, I don't think the bodies will decay in the vessel since there is no air. It would be interesting if it is stuck in the titanic and some guys face staring out the window for eternity in a makeshift tomb, people snapping pics from their submersible. If you got close enough you may be able to do a selfie.Quote:
Originally Posted by gut
The only one I feel sorry for is the 19 year old as he probably felt like he had no other choice than to go with his prick father on father's day weekend.
Have always shudderd at the thought of scuba diving or going in a submarine.
Zero issues with heights but the thought of something going awry in the depths of the ocean freaks me out, especially just to gawk at some rusted boat.
Agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe
I tried to scuba dive in the 1990s. I was able to do all the technical stuff correctly, successfully dove in the practice swimming pool, etc.
Then I got down to the bottom of the actual ocean, saw 30 feet of water above me, and said fuck no. I went back up and quit. The idea of being stuck 30 feet down when something went wrong was too much for me. This was two decades before I had any trace of anxiety, so it wasn't anything related to that.
In 2005, I was invited to play in the first (and only) underwater poker tournament -- a gimmick hatched by Interpoker for their St. Kitts tournament. I stupidly agreed to do it, and went through the same scuba course again. However, during the practice run in the pool, I could not "regulate" my ears anymore, even though I had no problem doing this about 7 years prior in the late '90s. After several tries, I gave up. Something must have changed about my body between my 20s and 30s which prevented being able to do that.
In 2006, the new "extreme" poker tournament involved being in a small plane over St. Kitts and being thrown off the plane in a parachute if you got knocked out of the event. I said no to that one from the start.
The following year it was in an ice cave in Finland. That one I would have done, but I had no association with Interpoker by that point, so I wasn't invited.
Apparently the submersible had real issues in the past with both lost communications, and also had a substantial vulnerability to power loss or fire -- both of which would have fucked the passengers.
During a voyage with a journalist onboard, communications were lost for 2 hours.
A submersible only has oxygen for about 4 days. Military type subs can stay down for months. Taking a submersible to 13,000 feet under the sea is like driving a car on the freeway made of thin aluminum. If everything goes fine, you'll return safely, but there's tons of ways you can die if something unexpected happens.
honestly anyone putting their life in this guys hands basically deserves what they get:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FzE2D9Ka...jpg&name=large
"Our father died while diving to the ocean floor"Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
"Ooh, was he studying aquatic life for science? Or was he trying to find pirated gold???"
"No, just to look at some old ship"
I’ve only been scared scuba diving a couple times, once my mask came off on a night dive
Other thing I don’t like is looking into the abyss on a wall dive, I like to be able to see the ocean floor.
Deepest dive so far is 125 ft. Deep dives suck since you burn through your air quickly.
Brother you're a braver man than me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Texter
I genuinely don't know if I would attempt that for $1m.
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Originally Posted by sonatine
If you’re not a history or cinema buff you get a pass.
Otherwise, dive, dive, die.
im not sure where you got your info that the dive was "8 days" but that doesn't sound correct whatsoever.Quote:
Originally Posted by tgullHard to believe anything would go wrong with the sub literally steered by a video game console. They were to be on for 8 days, with 5 people crammed in there. Why would anyone think that is a good experience to be in that thing, all to see a ship 90% decayed. Pretty ironic the owner in the video casually flipped the controller, now they can't fine the crew.Quote:
Originally Posted by garrett
The guy on board that is a billionaire is Hamish Harding. He is an aviation guru, who is known worldwide for taking 86 year old astronaut Buss Aldrin to the South Pole. Looks like this is his last adventure.
Video game sub:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClkytJa0ghc
everywhere ive read said the actual dive was a total of about 12 hours. There is a limited supply of oxygen, so based on the reports of when they entered the water and supposedly how much o2 they would have left, a multiple day dive wouldn't make sense.
that aside:
another source "they heard banging" at some point
i was flipping through this channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FGj-wY1e4k
in any case, after all of the things ive seen in the past couple of days, it sounds to me like this was more or less possibly a shoddy operation. Whether its the "controller" or the supposed "cheap glass" that was used for the viewport ( https://newrepublic.com/post/173802/...avel-oceangate , who knows.
Lols ...
https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/s...63256357646338
#liberalismisamentaldisorder
Alternative project names
OceanFate
OceanBait
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Originally Posted by sah_24
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Originally Posted by OK2Quote:
Originally Posted by sah_24
Fuck those 50 year old white guys with 30 years experience. Lets hire "inspirational" employees on the cheap do go digging in the ocean in a can
If not a catastrophic quick event, can you imagine the fun conversation going on as the hours tick away?
Wonder if one killed the others to allow oxygen conservation, or did all the panic use it quicker?
Quite horrifying really.
Unfortunately turns out they forgot to charge Xbox controller prior to voyage. Their backup controller was a cheap Amazon knockoff with significant controller drift.
Here is a CBS news segment on the titanic sub company. Not only do they use a game controller to steer, they also use off the shelf camping lighting and use generic construction pipes. Basically an erector set. But here is the kicker. The company owner brags there is only one button inside the vessel, basically an elevator button. Hey that's pretty cool, UNLESS YOU HAVE A FUCKING ELECTRICAL FAILURE. These poor souls would at least have a chance if there was a power failure and could trouble shoot the switches, wiring, etc.. But they got nothing except a button and a game controller. I was not aware there was a 19 year old there, no doubt his Dad talked him into it, hey it will be fun.
The owner will obviously be sued and criminally charged, especially after seeing this video. Smug SOB for sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29co_Hksk6o
The ocean does not joke around. Do you understand?
Normally I would agree with such a statement, but that sub was a piece of shit and unsafe to begin with. The ocean had nothing to do with it, it just stopped working.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickyPipes
“There are 10 submarines in the world that can go 12,000 ft and deeper,” Kohnen said. “All of them are certified except the Oceangate submersible.
Quite the conundrum, even if you dump the ballast and float to the top you can’t get out or breathe.
The ocean had everything to do with it pal
Well, then I guess the sub operator has his legal defense, the ocean did it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickyPipes
You've watched The Perfect Storm one too many times.
I have never watched The Perfect Storm pal
Nicky Pipes isn’t sitting around watching movies.
to shed some light on how absolutely batshit this whole operation was... they assessed the integrity of the hull based on the pops and cracking sounds it made during deployment.
the engineer who was fired insisted they follow basic industry practices and physically the integrity of the hub between dives, thats literally why he was fired.
it was 5 inches of carbon fiber and they literally had no way to determine if stress cracks were forming, they just assumed they would be able to spot trouble based on the fucking noise it made.
Can someone get this Engineer on radio?Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
It looks uncomfortable.
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...09/041/924.png
That person you see in the sub?
is probably shitting themselves.
https://nypost.com/wp-content/upload...BRXP-1_011.jpg
Let’s run some numbers pal
Even if you were conservatively calculating one poop per day, PER person, that’s 20 poops since Sunday.
Now an average human poop weighs around 1/4 pound to 1 pound. Let’s average at 1/2 lb.
There’s 10 lbs of poop on a 21 ft vessel that’s sealed rn.
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Originally Posted by sonatine
aaaand debris field found.
so yeah, guess overruling and firing the guy suggesting they actually use industry standard tech to validate the integrity of the hull between dives was a :baddecision