Holy shit.
I don’t watch much NFL but I tuned in to see they have been administering CPR on the Buffalo safety for 9 mins
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Holy shit.
I don’t watch much NFL but I tuned in to see they have been administering CPR on the Buffalo safety for 9 mins
See how NFL handles this moment
frightening. I think they're gonna cancel the game. looks like he died right there on the fieldQuote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
Not a huge fan but NFL can really make or break their reputation here.
As a business they should have this contingency mapped out. I know they don’t but just sayin’
NFL could get spectacularly smoked by sunrise.
Pray for the kid
Everyone is acting like he's passed. Had he been breathing when they took him off the field I don't think they'd be in the locker room rn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
OK2 is gonna blame it on the vaccine.
The NFL should suspend this game and resume the game tomorrow.
At least it’s the last Monday Night game of the year and all the other games are finished for the week. Obviously this is a situation where the game does mean a lot so it’s a difficult decision. I think probably suspend the game tonight. If he survives you can prob play it out tomorrow. If not, memorial Wednesday and maybe play it out Thursday during the day. Tough stuff, but I think you have to call it off tonight either way. Obviously hoping he survives but can’t expect a Football game to restart. These guys must be deeply effected.
Goodell’s career is on oxygen.
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Originally Posted by Sanlmar
The players aren’t going to play. Goodell looks awful already. Should of been postponed 20 mins ago at least.
Has anything been said to the crowd on the PA? Prolly a rhetorical questionQuote:
Originally Posted by JeffDimeQuote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
The players aren’t going to play. Goodell looks awful already. Should of been postponed 20 mins ago at least.
ESPN is spinning here. It’s incredible.
We'd have been advised on tv just after I presume. I think they're waiting for condition update before calling the game entirely.Quote:
Originally Posted by SanlmarHas anything been said to the crowd on the PA? Prolly a rhetorical questionQuote:
Originally Posted by JeffDime
ESPN desk, Suzy Korber etc, just made the call ahead of Goodell. Incredible. Goodell is boxed in.
Yeah shocking this hasn't been called off
The fact it hasn’t been postponed clearly is allowing me to believe the guy has a chance on surviving. I just don’t see any reason this has not been postponed. Even if he is going to survive the players aren’t going to all of a sudden get into playing mode. In fact the players won’t play even if they are told to imho. So this whole thing is just bizarre. You can feel Goodell’s inflated ego. Just postpone the game. Yes it will be logistically tough and cost a lot of money, but the NFL can afford it.Quote:
Originally Posted by country978We'd have been advised on tv just after I presume. I think they're waiting for condition update before calling the game entirely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
Guy had a cardiac arrest and administered CPR and an AED. They won’t know his condition for daysQuote:
Originally Posted by JeffDimeThe fact it hasn’t been postponed clearly is allowing me to believe the guy has a chance on surviving. I just don’t see any reason this has not been postponed. Even if he is going to survive the players aren’t going to all of a sudden get into playing mode. In fact the players won’t play even if they are told to imho. So this whole thing is just bizarre. You can feel Goodell’s inflated ego. Just postpone the game. Yes it will be logistically tough and cost a lot of money, but the NFL can afford it.Quote:
Originally Posted by country978
Does Goodell think dragging this out is a positive somehow? A national mourning or something?
More concession sales?
I just watched more MNF than I have in ages. Maybe NFL wins
The players were given 5 minutes notice that the game would resume after the ambulance left the field.
Late but at least they made the right call.
My thoughts and prayers go out to that player and his family. I can’t even imagine…I’m glad that they called the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZDMc97ykvc
Start at 0:59 mark to see the play.
Very weird. Not a hard hit, and nobody was on top of Damar. His collapse and likely heart problem was probably unrelated to the danger of playing NFL football, but I'm guessing this play was more of the catalyst to bringing on an existing (but previously unknown) health issue to cause him harm.
Given that this was not from a hard hit or dogpile, I'm guessing that NFL rules will not change going forward, though it will reignite the conversation regarding danger NFL players face regardless.
Hopefully he ends up okay.
He is now intubated and in critical condition.Quote:
Originally Posted by SanlmarGuy had a cardiac arrest and administered CPR and an AED. They won’t know his condition for daysQuote:
Originally Posted by JeffDime
I would be stunned if he makes it at this point. He went far too long without oxygen to his brain.
Such an absolute tragedy.
Was pretty sure my book was going to hold up the $ until the game completed on whichever day, but instead they kicked the $ back. This benefits me because I had the Bills, who were behind by 4 and the Bengals had the ball midfield, but I'm just surprised. This is a tragedy which was very depressing to watch and think about, and this is not the way I'd want out of the bet, but just wanted to put it out there for discussion as well.
I had thought that any suspended game would simply have the bet held until it completes? Anyone seen the bet cancelled before in a suspended game?
the longer play is suspended, the less likely the player was saved.
i recall seeing a similar incident, it was at Saugus Speedway, a 1/3 mile oval track north of Los Angeles...it happened back in the 70's...a racecar jumped the retaining wall in the 3rd turn at 30mph then hit a track worker positioned there...the race was stopped immediately, but no announcement was made to the crowd of 3,500 who waited over 30 minutes for the race to resume. Finally, the track announcer said there would be no more racing that night...no word was given to the crowd about the worker---but it seemed obvious at that time it was unlikely the worker lived...per the newspaper the following day the worked died at the track.
in the NFL the one player who died during play was Detroit Lions wide receiver Chuck Hughes who had a heart attack in a game during 1971...the incident happened in the 4th quarter...the game was completed with the Lions losing.
Had Bengals +8.5 as the 2nd leg of a teaser where the first game already hit. Obviously was in great shape. I assume even if they continue the game from the same point in a couple days, bet will be voided. Sigh.
On a side note, logistically this is going to be a nightmare. Because of all the playoff seeding implications for not just these 2 teams, but also the Patriots and Ravens (who these teams play next week), it isn't going to be as simple as playing this game on Wednesday and then playing the final weeks games on Monday night.
Undiagnosed cardiac abnormality would be my guess. Yes some may suggest it was a clot shot issue. Maybe it was maybe it wasn’t. They’ll never tell us if it was but there are a huge amount of cases of cardiomyopathy tied to MRNA shots and there’s been a couple Euro soccer guys who died also under questionable situations of guys totally healthy. But yeah im Doubting this was an injury or hit on the field caused. A chest trauma induced cardiac arrest usually is immediate and everything I’ve seen was he coded as they were putting him in the ambo not intially.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
What does coded mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by ftpjesusUndiagnosed cardiac abnormality would be my guess. Yes some may suggest it was a clot shot issue. Maybe it was maybe it wasn’t. They’ll never tell us if it was but there are a huge amount of cases of cardiomyopathy tied to MRNA shots and there’s been a couple Euro soccer guys who died also under questionable situations of guys totally healthy. But yeah im Doubting this was an injury or hit on the field caused. A chest trauma induced cardiac arrest usually is immediate and everything I’ve seen was he coded as they were putting him in the ambo not intially.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
As a general rule the fine print says the game must be completed the day it is scheduled or bet is voided.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
I mean this is nothing short of a miracle. He probably had this episode at the best possible spot in the world surrounded by the best doctors. Almost certainly saved his life is he keeps progressing.
https://twitter.com/jasrifootball/st...OEEgcpd0h1XeeA
This isn't true. If he was in SCA and didn't suffer some sort of cervical stroke from spinal trauma, immediate CPR would have been at least somewhat effective at moving oxygenated blood to the brain until he was hopefully shocked back into a normal cardiac rhythm.Quote:
Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustlerHe is now intubated and in critical condition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
I would be stunned if he makes it at this point. He went far too long without oxygen to his brain.
Such an absolute tragedy.
OK Doc I'm not one and never claimed to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by VaughnPThis isn't true. If he was in SCA and didn't suffer some sort of cervical stroke from spinal trauma, immediate CPR would have been at least somewhat effective at moving oxygenated blood to the brain until he was hopefully shocked back into a normal cardiac rhythm.Quote:
Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler
Coded means cardiac arrest. Reference to when they call code blue in the hospital. Cardiac arrests essentially are run kinda like a computer program algorithm in reality. Ya follow steps down a flowchart basically. Intubating the patient is important if possible to secure the airway but it’s pump and blow push drugs check for shockable rhythm every 2 mins roughly.Quote:
Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustlerWhat does coded mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by ftpjesus
You can already feel the anger towards Goodell here. Think the pressure for him to resign is going to get it done this time. The players were told to be ready in 5 minutes after the ambulance was off the field. Then the almost 45 minutes for the league to actually postpone. Hope somehow the young man survives. I don’t know anyone who likes Goodell besides the 32 NFL owners.
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Originally Posted by JeffDime
How tone deaf do you have to be to not call this off immediately after the ambulance took him away? You had NFL players actually crying. Even if the fans were willing to see the game complete (most weren't), the players were clearly traumatized and did not want to play.
Taking 45 minutes to postpone this was just mind boggling.
Gotcha. How long they had to do all that is what is worrisome. It was a long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by ftpjesusCoded means cardiac arrest. Reference to when they call code blue in the hospital. Cardiac arrests essentially are run kinda like a computer program algorithm in reality. Ya follow steps down a flowchart basically. Intubating the patient is important if possible to secure the airway but it’s pump and blow push drugs check for shockable rhythm every 2 mins roughly.Quote:
Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler
And your last part of the last sentence is all that matters. Goodell works for the owners nobodyelse period. He is going nowhere unless they decide to end his employment with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffDime
This is the inescapable truth surrounding Goodell and the NFL during this incident. Minutes into the injury I knew exactly how poorly it would be handled. We all did.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffDime
The two coaches pulling their players off the field (not the NFL) changed the course of events. Bills coach McDermott appeared to be first to act.
Every conversation I’ve had via text or gambling chat has shared the disgust found here. The league just thoroughly frustrates me.
I don’t watch mostly because of the rules changes. Pass interference was the most egregious. Made the game completely random in outcome. College does far better.
So yeah, I’m eager to pile on. Fuck em
Fuck Goodell let's worry about the kid that might die.
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Originally Posted by SanlmarThis is the inescapable truth surrounding Goodell and the NFL during this incident. Minutes into the injury I knew exactly how poorly it would be handled. We all did.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffDime
I don’t watch mostly because of the rules changes. Pass interference was the most egregious. Made the game completely random in outcome. College does far better.
So yeah, I’m eager to pile on. Fuck em
So the NFL acts exactly as most people assume they would (poorly) and we are surprised/outraged? I mean, it seems like you dont watch football anymore because you disapprove of the product, so you have some room to stand. But I know exactly what the NFL is and still spend 12+ hours/week watching it, so hard for me to take any high horse here. It just is what it is.
As far as the highlighted, LOL. In the last week along 2 high-profile bowl games were in large part decided on bogus calls/no-calls.
1). The "fumble" in the Arkansas-Kansas game that started the improbably Kansas rally
2). The 2 non-called unnecessary roughness penalties against Georgia, especially the first one agains Ginn that almost certainly cost Ohio St 4 points (and A TON of EV)
As someone who watches A LOT of college football and sees a lot of suspicious stuff quickly swept under the rug and move on, I would say College maybe has more integrity issues, but can get away with it because the spotlight isn't as bright.
Fair enough. I didn’t watch a single trash Bowl game. I’ve heard rumblings. I saw the end of Ohio Georgia cause it was on during the party. That game marks the beginning of College Bowls for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by KalamQuote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
So the NFL acts exactly as most people assume they would (poorly) and we are surprised/outraged? I mean, it seems like you dont watch football anymore because you disapprove of the product, so you have some room to stand. But I know exactly what the NFL is and still spend 12+ hours/week watching it, so hard for me to take any high horse here. It just is what it is.
As far as the highlighted, LOL. In the last week along 2 high-profile bowl games were in large part decided on bogus calls/no-calls.
1). The "fumble" in the Arkansas-Kansas game that started the improbably Kansas rally
2). The 2 non-called unnecessary roughness penalties against Georgia, especially the first one agains Ginn that almost certainly cost Ohio St 4 points (and A TON of EV)
As someone who watches A LOT of college football and sees a lot of suspicious stuff quickly swept under the rug and move on, I would say College maybe has more integrity issues, but can get away with it because the spotlight isn't as bright.
I didn’t watch any NHL 5 years ago. It now completely satisfies my appetite for pro sports. It gave me the freedom after the baseball season to treat myself with more respect and just not turn on NBA or NFL. I don’t miss either at all and I grew up in America. Easier than quitting cigarettes and healthier.
MLB is pretty close to getting cut. Sad
This was from November 20. Very sad to see this now. Looks like his mom went to all of his games:
https://twitter.com/JennaCottrell/st...81556843511812
NO KNEELING ON THE FIELD