https://thehill.com/policy/national-...ent-here-we-go
Big Rudy fan through about 2007.
He didn't look quite right when he ran for the '08 Presidency and failed miserably.
Ever since then, it's been a steady decline. Sadly I can't defend him at this point. He oddly hitched his wagon completely to Trump, which is always a mistake because Trump only cares about Trump.
As I've said in other threads, there's been a history rewrite regarding Giuliani, where a lot of liberals have erased all the great things he did for NYC -- and I'm talking about his entire tenure there, not just post-9/11.
But you have to separate '90s and early '00s Rudy from present Rudy. It's like two different people, and I suspect that he's had some cognitive decline.
Sad!
Sonantine associates with known racists who think the N Word is funnyQuote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Rudy did a good job here in NY
He really did. Since it's been 20 years, many people are forgetting that, and many others are too young to remember, even if they're New Yorkers.Quote:
Originally Posted by FRANKRIZZO
But compare Dinkins-run NYC in 1993 versus what NYC looked like when Rudy left office, and it's like night and day. Everything about the city was better under Rudy -- the budget, the crime rate, Times Square, Central Park, the NYPD, you name it. I visited in '02 and was very impressed -- it was nothing like what I remembered.
If Rudy rode off into the sunset in 2002 and just relaxed, he would have eventually died a legendary figure beyond reproach.
why did you let sonatine bombard people's threads with gay sex copy pastas but when I do it to him you delete it?
I use my best judgment with the gay copypasta. If the thread is total shit, I let sonatine do his thing. If the thread is reasonable, then I delete it. You can ask him, I've deleted his copypasta before, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by dwai
I thought this was a reasonable thread, so I removed your gay copypasta in an effort to spawn real conversation about the topic.
Easily one of the more humiliating falls from grace in recent American politics only bested by pedos and sex addicts like Dennis Hastert and Anthony Weiner.
There's a lot of Team Retard henchmen like him; Roger Stone, Mike Lindell, Donald Trump Jr., that all seem to be literally deranged.
Part of me wonders if Trump kept this lunatic clown around simply to deflect attention.
Probaly the perfect encapsulation of Team Retard in photos:
LOL Team Retard
All they want is the Hunter Biden drive. Hope Rudy has it secured.
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Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe
You're right. And before that he was a prosecutor who went after the mafia and corruption. Then he became the corruption. He just lost it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffHe really did. Since it's been 20 years, many people are forgetting that, and many others are too young to remember, even if they're New Yorkers.Quote:
Originally Posted by FRANKRIZZO
But compare Dinkins-run NYC in 1993 versus what NYC looked like when Rudy left office, and it's like night and day. Everything about the city was better under Rudy -- the budget, the crime rate, Times Square, Central Park, the NYPD, you name it. I visited in '02 and was very impressed -- it was nothing like what I remembered.
If Rudy rode off into the sunset in 2002 and just relaxed, he would have eventually died a legendary figure beyond reproach.
When it comes to breaking the law Rudy is a kindergartner compared to Clapper, Brennan, Comey, McCabe. And you can throw Hunter Biden in there. It's a two tiered justice system. The Dems are back in power and back to persecuting their political enemies. Dems are total bags of shit.
The best part about this is when FBI agents raided his house and office and took evidence related to Rudy's Ukraine corruption campaign, Rudy Giuliani told them he had evidence about Hunter Biden. FBI agents left that evidence behind.
Fuck you Rudy, rot in hell with Trump.
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/imag...35&w=720&h=405
That's because Hunter Biden's struggles with addiction are just not interesting to the FBI. Nobody gives a fuck except QAnon retards desperate to find something they can use to imply wrongdoing by his father the President, except that there isn't anything there to find.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheXFactor
This shows how scared the libs are of Rudy.
Same thing with Gaetz
Rudy/Gaetz 2024
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Originally Posted by Pablo
Sonatard, this fiasco once again shows how depraved you libtard woketard shittard assholes are.
The FBI came in and seized what Giuliani had been offering to give them for 2 years. But they refused to take the Hunter Biden hard drives. WTF?
DOJ is trying to charge Giuliani with representing a foreign national without registering. Giulani denies he ever did that. Meanwhile, guess who was routinely doing that--HUNTER BIDEN. So why is Hunter getting a pass? That's a no brainer. It's called a two-tiered justice system that you woketard bastards are so famous for.
Here's Giuliani's first interview since the corrupt Biden Administration raided his apartment.
https://youtu.be/xEFPiSVP4ec
The DOJ is back to being the Department of Injustice.
When did Hunter Biden lobby the US government on behalf of a foreign entity?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
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Originally Posted by FRANKRIZZO
And now you got DiBlaiso the Cop-hating, Marxist Anti-Semite.
Rudy is an idiot who played politics with the threat of terrorism and massively fucked up after the FIRST attack on the World Trade Center in 1993 by moving New York City’s terrorism response headquarters to ... wait for it... the World Trade Center.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffHe really did. Since it's been 20 years, many people are forgetting that, and many others are too young to remember, even if they're New Yorkers.Quote:
Originally Posted by FRANKRIZZO
But compare Dinkins-run NYC in 1993 versus what NYC looked like when Rudy left office, and it's like night and day. Everything about the city was better under Rudy -- the budget, the crime rate, Times Square, Central Park, the NYPD, you name it. I visited in '02 and was very impressed -- it was nothing like what I remembered.
If Rudy rode off into the sunset in 2002 and just relaxed, he would have eventually died a legendary figure beyond reproach.
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So you're going to nitpick something like this and ignore everything he did to turn around the city?Quote:
Originally Posted by MumblesBadlyRudy is an idiot who played politics with the threat of terrorism and massively fucked up after the FIRST attack on the World Trade Center in 1993 by moving New York City’s terrorism response headquarters to ... wait for it... the World Trade Center.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
:facepalm6
C'mon, man!
Mumbles, you're older than me. You remember what a dysfunctional shithole NYC was in the '80s and early '90s, and how much better it was once Rudy left office.
fun fact no one* who lived in NYC during rudy's tenure found him to be anything but a cousin fucking weirdo who single handedly converted the whole ass town into a sex in the city set then militarized the police as an encore.
* who isnt a full blown maga retard
That part is true. He also used to bring his mistress (who I believe is 2 ex-wives ago now) there for their secret liaisons.Quote:
Originally Posted by MumblesBadlyRudy is an idiot who played politics with the threat of terrorism and massively fucked up after the FIRST attack on the World Trade Center in 1993 by moving New York City’s terrorism response headquarters to ... wait for it... the World Trade Center.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
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You are either ignorant or trying to pull a fast one. You have to register to "lobby the United States" and you also have to register to "lobby within the United States for any foreign entity." That means you have to register to lobby private enterprise. Do you think Hunter never lobbied anyone in private enterprise from within the United States for a foreign entity?Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter SobchakWhen did Hunter Biden lobby the US government on behalf of a foreign entity?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
“the only way you can get a search warrant is if you can show that there is some evidence that the person is going to destroy the evidence. Or is going to run away with the evidence. Well, I’ve had it for two years and I haven’t destroyed it.”
“And they also got it from the iCloud!” Giuliani exclaimed, dramatically pointing his thumb up towards the heavens, where he apparently assumes his data is floating. “So, there was no — there was no justification for that warrant. It is an illegal, unconstitutional warrant. One of many that this ‘department of injustice’ tragically has done, and it breaks my heart because I belonged to the Justice Department, and I think I had a record that is a hell of a lot better than theirs.”
-cybersecurity czar rudy
Apparently you don't know what lobbying is. I didn't expect that.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmYou are either ignorant or trying to pull a fast one. You have to register to "lobby the United States" and you also have to register to "lobby within the United States for any foreign entity." That means you have to register to lobby private enterprise. Do you think Hunter never lobbied anyone in private enterprise from within the United States for a foreign entity?Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak
We've had this discussion before. I realize you are a lifelong lefty with parents who are even further left than you are, so perhaps you saw it differently.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
For those less politically biased, Rudy did a great job in NYC, and the way the city looked in 2002 versus the way it looked in 1993 was an incredible difference. On top of that, the city's budget was also tremendously better. I realize there are a few critics who liked the old, dangerous, shady Times Square over the 2000s Disneyland version, but for the safety and economic health of the city, there's no question the latter was much superior.
Do you remember how many comedians used to tell jokes which ended with some punchline about being in Times Square or Central Park at night? It was funny because it was true, and everyone who had visited or lived in NYC for the past few decades knew it.
Starting around 2007, when he was running for President, I started to notice something was different. He wasn't the guy I had remembered just 6 years prior. Something wasn't quite right. At the time I chalked it up to being someone who just wasn't cut out to run for President -- a daunting task which has eaten many formerly talented politicians.
But obviously it was more than that. Reminds me of my 12-year-old dog in the late '90s, who despite being super-gentle her entire life, accidentally bit me when taking food out of my hand. At the time I found that bizarre, but thought it might be a one-off mistake. But no... it was the start of a 2-year decline, which resulted in complete senility, and eventually death. I think Rudy started his decline circa 2007, and it's been downhill ever since.
again its just interesting how virtually all of 'the people who saw it differently' never stepped foot in new york because times square was tooooo scawwwwy.
interesting, when did you live in NYC and how long did you live there for?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffWe've had this discussion before. I realize you are a lifelong lefty with parents who are even further left than you are, so perhaps you saw it differently.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
For those less politically biased, Rudy did a great job in NYC, and the way the city looked in 2002 versus the way it looked in 1993 was an incredible difference. On top of that, the city's budget was also tremendously better. I realize there are a few critics who liked the old, dangerous, shady Times Square over the 2000s Disneyland version, but for the safety and economic health of the city, there's no question the latter was much superior.
Do you remember how many comedians used to tell jokes which ended with some punchline about being in Times Square or Central Park at night? It was funny because it was true, and everyone who had visited or lived in NYC for the past few decades knew it.
Starting around 2007, when he was running for President, I started to notice something was different. He wasn't the guy I had remembered just 6 years prior. Something wasn't quite right. At the time I chalked it up to being someone who just wasn't cut out to run for President -- a daunting task which has eaten many formerly talented politicians.
But obviously it was more than that. Reminds me of my 12-year-old dog in the late '90s, who despite being super-gentle her entire life, accidentally bit me when taking food out of my hand. At the time I found that bizarre, but thought it might be a one-off mistake. But no... it was the start of a 2-year decline, which resulted in complete senility, and eventually death. I think Rudy started his decline circa 2007, and it's been downhill ever since.
So the high crime in Times Square and Central Park in 1993 were my imagination?Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Did I also imagine the disasterous budget plauging the city during the Dinkins years?
What about the subway? How safe was it in 1993 versus 2002?
I'm not understanding which part of NYC life was better pre-Rudy. Even Berkeley sociologist Frank Zimring -- hardly a conservative apologist -- wrote a book about the decline of crime in America during the '90s, but gave special credit to Rudy for his policies. Zimring credited Rudy with half the drop in crime, and attributed the other half with a general drop in crime in the US during the decade.
Is it really that hard for you to give a Republican credit for having done something right at some point?
This all happened when the war on drugs version whatever was in full swing. Not too hard to throw the least able to defend themselves in jailQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffSo the high crime in Times Square and Central Park in 1993 were my imagination?Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Did I also imagine the disasterous budget plauging the city during the Dinkins years?
What about the subway? How safe was it in 1993 versus 2002?
I'm not understanding which part of NYC life was better pre-Rudy. Even Berkeley sociologist Frank Zimring -- hardly a conservative apologist -- wrote a book about the decline of crime in America during the '90s, but gave special credit to Rudy for his policies. Zimring credited Rudy with half the drop in crime, and attributed the other half with a general drop in crime in the US during the decade.
Is it really that hard for you to give a Republican credit for having done something right at some point?
You are all smoke and mirrors to hide your ignorance. Don't blame your lack of knowledge on me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter SobchakApparently you don't know what lobbying is. I didn't expect that.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Only you woketard idiots believe Hunter Biden wasn't hired by Burisma to lobby his father for them.
And....
NBC, New York Times and Washington Post forced to fess up to false stories on Giuliani:
https://youtu.be/6t-hsVkbuBA