Speaking of not fucking around..... You following the SDG trades badguy?
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Speaking of not fucking around..... You following the SDG trades badguy?
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Originally Posted by Sanlmar
Yea they got a Wigger and a washed up Jap
Good Moves in my opinion. SDG putting the heat on the Todgers.
They need to get some bullpen help
Your daughter may be able to see a world series in Shitco Park this year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Cs2HeZZb8k
If Clevinger was healthy I might have never watched another team.Quote:
Originally Posted by badguy23Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
Yea they got a Wigger and a washed up Jap
Good Moves in my opinion. SDG putting the heat on the Todgers.
They need to get some bullpen help
Your daughter may be able to see a world series in Shitco Park this year.
She bailed California like everyone else and is learning how to bake in the high altitude of Colorado. Apparently that’s an issue.
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Originally Posted by SanlmarIf Clevinger was healthy I might have never watched another team.Quote:
Originally Posted by badguy23
She bailed California like everyone else and is learning how to bake in the high altitude of Colorado. Apparently that’s an issue.
Hopefully she likes Hockey Avs are the real deal
Padres definitely getting serious about competing NOW, and want to capitalize immediately on both Tatis' ascendance and the limited window of having guys like Hosmer, Myers, and Machado effective.
The Dodgers won't be able to coast to another title this year. They will have a fight on their hands. So it's basically a 2-team race in that division. Looks like the Central is going to be a giant bowl of mediocrity again, and the Braves probably have a fairly clear path to win the East.
Dodgers are mostly standing pat, and are going for cheap reclamation projects like Cory Knebel (which isn't a bad idea, btw). They've fished Turner, Taylor, and Muncy out of the trash heap over the past 7 seasons, so they seem pretty good at that -- or pretty lucky.
It appears we are about to give Mulva Lindor and Carassco for some garbage. We must be on the verge of bankruptcy or something.
At least Dolan warned you to enjoy him while you could, cause you know, its all Lindors fault for being so good.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCR
And yeah, that is a rough return if Lindor signs an extension with the Mets.
With the exception of the Padres the entire offseason has been very troubling.Quote:
Originally Posted by gutAt least Dolan warned you to enjoy him while you could, cause you know, its all Lindors fault for being so good.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCR
And yeah, that is a rough return if Lindor signs an extension with the Mets.
Even the Yankees are acting like Tampa Bay. That should get your attention. There are obv big problems.
I hope this isn’t another asterisk summer
Who would have thought anytime in the last, I dunno, 30 years that we'd be calling the Padres and Mets the smart teams right now. Buying during a bear market. Might as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by SanlmarWith the exception of the Padres the entire offseason has been very troubling.Quote:
Originally Posted by gut
Even the Yankees are acting like Tampa Bay. That should get your attention. There are obv big problems.
I hope this isn’t another asterisk summer
I'm guessing Druff and other Dodger fans are wishing someone in the AL will step up here and buy. I know some have to be trying. Toronto and Anaheim seem to be publicly trying. Everyone waiting for Realmuto and Bauer to sign, but no team is going over the top to ensure they get one of them. The new normal.
I spent years correctly mocking the Dodgers “success” in that vacuous division. (Insert Bauer to Rockies lulz) Padres vs Dodgers could be like Red Sox vs Yankees. That would be must see baseball. There are lots of rivalries aside from Sawks Yankees, of course, but the hate was special. Tatis & Machado are gonna piss off the self entitled Dodgers players and fans. We hope.Quote:
Originally Posted by gutWho would have thought anytime in the last, I dunno, 30 years that we'd be calling the Padres and Mets the smart teams right now. Buying during a bear market. Might as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
I'm guessing Druff and other Dodger fans are wishing someone in the AL will step up here and buy. I know some have to be trying. Toronto and Anaheim seem to be publicly trying. Everyone waiting for Realmuto and Bauer to sign, but no team is going over the top to ensure they get one of them. The new normal.
The LA Mexican gang members could accept the mantle of fan violence from Southie, Charlestown and the Bronx. The chants would be Spanish but I have close caption
Rosario and Giminez are not garbage at all. I'm disappointed to see them leave - but yeah, Indians got robbed.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCR
https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/statu...79873797967872
I feel sorry for you, Tickle.
Mets just can't catch a break.
meat the mets
It’s like the browns...
Same ol sorry ass browns, same ol sorry ass Mets...
Not even Stevie boy can wipe the shit stains off...very curious how something like this doesn’t come up in the vetting process...seems like while this might have not been widely known it was at least sorta known to where some sort of due diligence would have picked it up...
Wonder if Stevie vets his stocks like this or just relies on good ol insider information to make his billions..
At least he didn't tell her to then go and get 5 other dick pics underneath her to start making real money.
Springer to the Blue Jays Buffalo may get 2 championships this year.
LOL
Only if they could get some pitching.
Also SDG getting Musgrove makes them the clear Favorite in the NL West
Don't let anyone tell you different..
Mulva when is Flaherty going to win that Cy Young?
You have to pitch more than 5 innings a game to do that.
Jays also trying to get his buddy Brantley for the outfield.Quote:
Originally Posted by badguy23
Another thing they need to do is get the pitching coach to have Robbie Ray go back to his 2019 windup.Quote:
Originally Posted by simpdogJays also trying to get his buddy Brantley for the outfield.Quote:
Originally Posted by badguy23
Blue Jays got a great offense.
You think they are going to allow them them to play in Toronto?
Jays should pull the trigger on Bauer then we got some good Baseball.
Dodgers are def going after him now after Musgrove too SDG I pray the Angels get him just to fuck with Todge
I wouldnt sign that guy long term. He def is in the Kyrie realm of things.
I'm not sure there has ever been such a chaotic market in MLB. No one seems to know wtf is going on. Up is down, down is up.
The Yankees (!) just salary dumped a reliever to....the Red Sox, who have been....uh....not really spending much for 2 years.
On the flipside, remember the Brad Hand story from the other thread? He somehow earned himself a free $1,500,000. Cleveland put his 1 year left at $10m salary on waivers, to see if anyone wanted him for free so they wouldnt have to pay the $1m buyout. No team took him, so he got his $1m. He just signed with Washington for 1yr/10.5m guaranteed! The Nats wound up having to bid up an extra 500k when they (or anyone) could have got him before. So Hand turned 10 into 11.5. That's far from a normal outcome for a veteran who gets bought-out. I can't think of another time that has actually happened.
Mets going big on Bauer... or at least they're trying:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...3xAogXEhye6tNQ
Because they're the Mets, I'm sure Bauer will turn to dogshit after about half a season, and then his contract will drag the team down for the next 9 years.
So let's play a guessing game: Who's that pitcher:
- After a few unsuccessful starts as a late callup in 2012, he had ERAs of 4.19 to 5.26 over the next 5 seasons, from 2013-2017
- His ERA in 2019 was 4.48
What kind of a contract would a pitcher like that get? Probably a very middling one, at best, right?
What if I told you that this pitcher is about to sing perhaps the richest contract for a pitcher ever?
Yes, that pitcher is Trevor Bauer. He's only had two good years -- 2018 and 2020.
While those were both excellent years, and while I think he is going to be very strong in the next few years, it's still a bit hard to wrap my head around him getting one of the richest contracts ever.
Makes it looks like Degrom got ripped off with his 5-year/$137m contract last year.
Joc Pederson to the Cubs.
They plan to play him every day, which is a
:baddecision
... as he is brutal against left handed pitchers.
He is a raw power guy and a true three-outcome player. Doesn't hit for average but walks a lot.
Great guy to have off the bench, and to have facing righties. Not so great to have playing every day. Good in the postseason, though ... if the Cubs make it!
This is the second part-time player with the Dodgers to go elsewhere for 2021. Kike Hernandez went to the Red Sox. This is actually going to hurt the Dodgers, because both of these guys provided both pop off the bench (or in a part-time role) and some postseason heroics. Now they are a bit thin in that area.
We're still waiting to see what happens with Justin Turner. He's 36 and has been asking for 4 years, which the Dodgers don't want to give. Turner has suffered more and more injuries as time has passed, and he's starting to decline. Big mistake to give him 4 years. Hopefully they can give him 2 and overpay him a bit, and he can retire as a Dodger.
Nolan Arenado to the Cardinals
Willie, how could you?
:knife
Season appears like it will be starting on time, as the union and MLB couldn't come to an agreement regarding a delay and a 154-game season.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...ay-2021-season
Bauer is now a Todger.
As expected from Bauer, a rather interesting contract. 3 years 102 million, with opt-outs every year. Heavily frontloaded though:
2021: 40m
2022: 45m
2023: 17m
So really, if he keeps pitching to recent form, its a 2 yr 85m contract. If he flames out (or gets caught doing whatever he did to drastically increase his spin rate) at least that 3rd year is palatable for an average pitcher.
If it was almost any other team I'd hate the deal, but its the Dodgers...so I guess they can throw money wherever they want. Injuries will happen of course, but with everyone healthy, I don't think Bauer is 40m better than May or Gonsolin in the rotation.
Funny to see him become a dodger after all of Todd’s sour grapes posts when he was going to the Mets.
Gooooo Dodgers!
Manfred is going to pull the plug on April 1st being opening day some point soon. The owners desperately don't want to start the season without fans again , and even after getting the Cactus League officials to sign letter asking players to postpone Spring Training a month .... not to mention President Biden even chiming in with same thoughts ... the players still refuse so its only a matter of time before Manfred uses his powers to delay season without player approval.
Players are worried that delay might last more than a month which would then start chipping away at their paychecks. That 154 games for full pay was a good offer. IF it was guaranteed it would only be a month. Clearly that can't be guaranteed which is why the players want to start on time. Fans or no fans.
I'm still skeptical, but the 3 year thing is fine. Like, yeah they're paying him a lot for 3 years, but the overall risk of $100m or so isn't horrible. What I was concerned about was that they'd commit to 7 years or something, and guarantee $240m, and he'd be an albatross if he ended up flaming out. Here the Dodgers only have him 3 years, and the third year is much cheaper, as gut pointed out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Texter
The Dodgers front office obviously had the same concerns I did -- basically that he had only 2 good years (albeit 2 of the last 3), and the rest were very mediocre. So going forward, he may be a beast, or he may become the 2019 guy again.
Dodgers are probably a good place for him to land, regarding his future numbers, because they have this great offense behind him, so you have to imagine that a lot of times he'll get a bunch of run support at the beginning and just cruise. A lot easier to pitch that way when you have a failteam which is barely scoring.
So I'm happy about this. When I heard he signed, I thought, "Oh no... this isn't a guy you want to hand a huge contract to", but once I saw it was 3 years, I was very pleased.
Kershaw, Buehler, Bauer.... and then maybe Urias may have a great year, too. So combine that with the offense, and this is going to be a killer team. And that's what they need, given the Padres recent upgrades.
I want the vaccine so I can see this in person!
Dodgers and Padres both projected to be 100-win teams:
https://www.mlb.com/news/greatest-ti...206-156906-MLB
So it'll be LA, San Diego, Cards, Mets, Braves in NL playoffs?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.esp...platform%3Damp
This is rough MLB news.
Pedro Gomez
:laterfag
There's some talk about Justin Turner going to the Mets, now that the Dodgers are past the luxury tax threshold and probably won't want to pay Turner a lot of money:
https://dodgersway.com/2021/02/06/do...bauer-signing/
Turner is 36 years old, and is also starting to experience injury issues and a slow decline.
I don't believe for a second that he'll go to the Mets. Last I heard, he hates them. Someone in the Mets organization actually tried to ruin his career in late 2013. An executive with the club surprisingly referred to offer to re-sign him at the Major League minimum (which was baffling, given his good performance off the bench and good defense), and then put out the word that he didn't hustle and was a clubhouse cancer. Teammates denied this was true, insisting that Turner was a good teammate who tried hard and got along with everyone, but the damage was done.
Clearly this was personal. This unnamed executive obviously had a personal dislike for Turner, and decided to fuck his career after kicking him out the door, by spreading false statements about him. The ploy seemed to work, as no team was going to touch Turner, a career reserve who just didn't seem worth taking with this supposed baggage.
The only reason he became prominent was due to a fluke. He happened to be a Cal State Fullerton alumni, as was Tim Wallach, then a Dodgers employee. Wallach saw him at an alumni baseball game in early 2014, noticed his form looked great, and asked him why he didn't have a team yet. Turner said he didn't know, and Wallach said he'd try to lobby the Dodgers to give him a shot. The Dodgers did, and the rest is history. Had it not been for the CSUF connection, Turner would have disappeared.
Anyway, he clearly held bitterness toward the Mets since then, and in fact seemed to destroy them every time the Dodgers faced them, in the first few years following the trade.
It's unclear if Turner knows who did this to him, and if that person is still with the team. Regardless, I can't imagine him returning there, especially since it's not like he needs the money.
baseballs being deadened. No more juiced baseballs. Don't know the difference will travel 3 to 5 feet less.
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/m...on-per-report/
This change will hurt the Dodgers, who are a power-offense team.
Ugh.
The Dodger's own John Focht on a 4-day jeopardy winning streak
Justin Turner BACK
2 years, $34m, club option for 3rd year
He wanted to come back, the Dodgers wanted him back, but there was a stalemate regarding contract length. Turner wanted 4 years, Dodgers only wanted to give him 2. He's 36 years old, born in late November 1984, just a month before another LA star -- Lebron James. Turner was the oldest player on the 2020 Dodgers team, taking that title after Rich Hill left.
He was huge in the 2020 World Series, and has had a lot of great postseason moments with the team, as well as a .302 average in his 7 seasons with the Dodgers. However, each year his injury issues seem to become more numerous, and he's been on a slow decline overall.
The Dodgers really wanted him back, though, because of both his team leadership skills and the fact that he's one of the favorites of fans. Turner, who was unceremoniously released and unfairly criticized by the Mets in December 2013, effectively ending his career, was given a chance by the Dodgers, and blew up at that point. Even though he came to the Dodgers at 29, his career is basically defined by the time he spent with them, making both sides really want him to return and end his career in LA.
I'm glad the Dodgers held firm on the 2-year thing, and I'm glad he's back.
Interestingly, they also picked up a backup for him -- minor leaguer Sheldon Neuse -- in a mostly-ignored trade yesterday with Oakland. Neuse is projected to be a third baseman (though he has positional versatility, as Turner once did), and hit very well at AAA in 2019. It is likely now that the Dodgers are hoping Neuse can eventually take over for Turner -- and perhaps immediately take over if Turner gets injured. The timing of the trade for Neuse -- which involved shipping away Adam Kolarek and promising prospect Cody Thomas -- was in preparation for signing Turner.
What this ownership group is doing to my beloved Red Sox is a travesty. You are the Boston Red Sox with a history of supposed history of racism and you trade away the best young black player of the last 20 years in the name of reseting the luxury tax..... when you getting $1 a month from every house in New a England via your NESN deal. Now to follow up you start by trading away Benitendi for a ham sandwich. Your rotation is garbage.
Seriously fuck this team. If I still owned my season tickets I’d give them up.
Padres do more than buyout Tatis's future arb years, they basically sign him for life. 14 years, $340m. Barring a catastrophic injury, this is an incredible steal for the team. $24.3m a year. You already have top pitchers making 40m a year on short deals. Tatis at that rate when he is 28-29-30 years old is gonna be a steal.
Really his closest comp (IMO) is his other rich teammate. A faster and better defending at SS Machado. Crazy how those guys are basically the exact same height and weight, but it seems like Tatis can run circles around Manny.
I can't think of many recent comps of this turning out poorly for the team, again barring catastrophic injury. Maybe BJ Upton is close, similar style player, and he peaked at age 22-23 then went downhill fast. But his age 20-21 years did not show the same promise as Tatis's have.