Bill Perkins claims that several famous poker pros have been cheating, says this scandal will make Postle scandal seem small by comparison

Possible huge story coming down the pike

https://twitter.com/bp22/status/1264...718678016?s=21

Tweeted offer for him to call radio.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Possible huge story coming down the pike

https://twitter.com/bp22/status/1264...718678016?s=21

Tweeted offer for him to call radio.

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It was only a matter of time.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Possible huge story coming down the pike

https://twitter.com/bp22/status/1264...718678016?s=21

Tweeted offer for him to call radio.

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Total speculation on my part.

https://twitter.com/jeffreydime/stat...849869824?s=21

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Originally Posted by Hockey Guy

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Possible huge story coming down the pike

https://twitter.com/bp22/status/1264...718678016?s=21

Tweeted offer for him to call radio.

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It was only a matter of time.

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The fact that it’s talking about the actions of a set of pros tells me it’s not poker bros or pokerrr, which was my first blush.

Mulva has been telling us about grobul poker for a long time now. I guess it’s finally hit the mainstream.

https://twitter.com/VeniVidi1993/sta...83802647945216

:what


And yes, it appears to really be VeniVidi.

I'll give my thoughts on this on radio tonight after the Kevis Davis/AHoosier A/Rick Lee segment.

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Originally Posted by Hockey Guy

It was only a matter of time.

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The fact that it’s talking about the actions of a set of pros tells me it’s not poker bros or pokerrr, which was my first blush.

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Obviously. That's what I meant.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

https://twitter.com/VeniVidi1993/sta...83802647945216

:what


And yes, it appears to really be VeniVidi.

I'll give my thoughts on this on radio tonight after the Kevis Davis/AHoosier A/Rick Lee segment.

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Your thoughts about something you know about the situation or are you just gonna speculate/guess who or what they're tweeting about?

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

https://twitter.com/VeniVidi1993/sta...83802647945216

:what


And yes, it appears to really be VeniVidi.

I'll give my thoughts on this on radio tonight after the Kevis Davis/AHoosier A/Rick Lee segment.

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I mean, are you implying it has to do with the challenge? I wouldn’t think. If it did, it would be his place to say.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

https://twitter.com/VeniVidi1993/sta...83802647945216

:what


And yes, it appears to really be VeniVidi.

I'll give my thoughts on this on radio tonight after the Kevis Davis/AHoosier A/Rick Lee segment.

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Druff you may have major poker breaking news live during the show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUFY8Zw0Bag

Well now we know who it isn’t

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I mean, are you implying it has to do with the challenge? I wouldn’t think. If it did, it would be his place to say.

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Well the dots now with Perkins & VeniVidi both connect to the challenge. If that’s the case VeniVidi may be saying he is not the one disclosing the information as others are coming forward but it doesn’t mean he was not a injured party. Who in that scenario would fit the profile of a poker hero? I can definitely think of one right off the bat. This looks like it could change a lot of lives for good.

Galfond tweeted it won’t be him. I assume he’s silent if it was.

Funny part is this Koon literally can mean any of the 3 things everyone thinks. Triton, Partypoker, where challenge has been lately and also was a RIO coach.

I’m going with that triton high roller shit. Feels like the shadiest spot

It’s so hard to believe gamblers would also be cheaters lol.

I don't think it has anything to do with Galfond challenge.

https://twitter.com/bp22/status/1264596254216126464


Looks like a big nothingburger.


https://twitter.com/bp22/status/1264597082066862081

:lol

https://twitter.com/bp22/status/1264599340250796033

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

https://twitter.com/bp22/status/1264596254216126464


Looks like a big nothingburger.


https://twitter.com/bp22/status/1264597082066862081

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This reminds me of when people on twitter put out a PSA not to loan a guy money because they are owed. BS they don’t care about “educating” the public they just want to put pressure on the person publicly so they get paid.

Getting whales on these apps and chopping up their money has been going on forever. I spoke with a rich friend of mine and he told me he was down 300K on a poker app just this week. They have got him for millions.

Bill was being cheated on apps, the sky is blue and the earth is a sphere.

Nobody got super used? Damn.

And a big nothing burger ... Perkins is now blocking people making fun of him on twitter. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

If you play on apps you deserve to be cheated ... lol

So, what did Druff say about it on radio?

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Originally Posted by sah_24

If you play on apps you deserve to be cheated ... lol

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If you play on the internet you play on apps.

Scandal looking dumber and dumber as time passes.

https://twitter.com/bp22/status/1264768478424293381

https://twitter.com/SrslySirius/stat...81841896071169

https://twitter.com/bp22/status/1264786004885602305

https://twitter.com/bp22/status/1264785707664650248

https://twitter.com/bp22/status/1264782096511401985

:wtf

https://twitter.com/bp22/status/1264623639749591041

https://twitter.com/bp22/status/1264626937374392322

https://twitter.com/bp22/status/1264629409304268800


So tilting to read all of this nonsense.

BP wanted attention ...

By Srsly:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EY1_lHpU...pg&name=medium

https://twitter.com/golferjosh/statu...82214874382339

Lol Josh <3

Well it has now just been outed that it is Jungleman

https://twitter.com/DanBilzerian?ref...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Such a shame !

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Well it has now just been outed that it is Jungleman

https://twitter.com/DanBilzerian?ref...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Such a shame !

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Bilzerian deleted the tweets. What a total shit show.

https://twitter.com/bp22/status/1264...255982081?s=21

Durr realizing that he won’t be hearing about the Durr Challenge anymore the big winner here. Jungleman being narced out by a guy who “allegedly” cleaned most of his Father’s money by saying he won it playing poker pretty surreal.

Here's the now deleted tweet in question. I deleted the phone number (in the contact he posted) because I don't want that spread around until this guy is surely guiilty.

It should also be noted that Jungleman escaped relatively unscathed from the Lock Poker Girah scandal of 2012, where Girah's account won a contest to "win a WSOP Main Event seat" by having $100k worth of chips dumped to him on the final day of the contest, and Lock tried to be complicit in it.

Turned out Haseeb "Dogishead" Qureshi was the one dumping the chips.

It also turned out that Haseeb and Jungleman were in cahoots to play on Girah's account all along, basically using Girah as a sockpuppet whom the plan was to promote as the next big thing in poker. Jungleman's exact culpability was never known, but he was definitely involved in the whole thing, but Haseeb took most of the brunt of it because he was the one who actually dumped the chips to Girah, and then subsequently lied about it repeatedly.

In short, it's not at all surprising to hear that Jungleman is accused of using a fish's account to trick people into playing him.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

It should also be noted that Jungleman escaped relatively unscathed from the Lock Poker Girah scandal of 2012, where Girah's account won a contest to "win a WSOP Main Event seat" by having $100k worth of chips dumped to him on the final day of the contest, and Lock tried to be complicit in it.

Turned out Haseeb "Dogishead" Qureshi was the one dumping the chips.

It also turned out that Haseeb and Jungleman were in cahoots to play on Girah's account all along, basically using Girah as a sockpuppet whom the plan was to promote as the next big thing in poker. Jungleman's exact culpability was never known, but he was definitely involved in the whole thing, but Haseeb took most of the brunt of it because he was the one who actually dumped the chips to Girah, and then subsequently lied about it repeatedly.

In short, it's not at all surprising to hear that Jungleman is accused of using a fish's account to trick people into playing him.

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So, Druff, what do you think the fallout from this will be?

Jungle's statement:

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Originally Posted by Jungleman

I'd like to address the allegations posed by Dan Bilzerian in this now deleted tweet. I could not do so earlier due to legal advice and financial matters.

To be clear, I started playing with Sina (his last name is not Taleb, for the record) on may 8th and ultimately played very few sessions, none of which were against Dan Bilzerian as claimed.

I played very few hands against Bill Perkins, who sat in a game I understood was rampant with professionals who were ghosting. I thought since many on the site were using pros to play for them (which was clear by the uniquely high level of play) at the time it felt acceptable for me to be playing. Unfortunately Bill got caught in the crossfire and I'm very sorry for that.

While I don't think it's fair that I’ve been singled out for something many were much more guilty of, I accept that as a role model for the poker community my punishment should be disproportionate compared to a normal player. I hold myself to a high standard of ethics and aspire to be devoid of inequity, but I still make mistakes and am sorry for my actions. I will do my best to behave better in the future.

I'd also like to give gratitude to my friends and the people that supported me on the internet and other communications. Your efforts were vital to mitigating this situation and I appreciate your concern for me. Special thanks to Nick Schulman who contacted me to make sure I was ok and started the #Freejungle movement. If anyone else believes in my integrity and that I should not be lambasted over the internet, I would appreciate any support and will appreciate it especially if I know you.

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Buzzfeed Perkins is just trying to get some attention.

As for what makes a big cheating scandal, Postle drama is only big because it's good TV and there's footage of it. Otherwise, there are very few victims and there is very little money involved. Tons of poker scandals over the years that are bigger than 250K.

In this day and age, it takes a special kind of sucker to listen to some shill and sign up on some "private app" operated by unknowns, playing who-knows-who and hoping that the local shill/bookie will pay out out if you win. Online poker is hard and people are desperate and people have smartphones: it doesn't take any techie miracles to set up a conference call and profitably collude.

There is probably more to what actually happened on this shady ass app. I will say it’s not really a defense to say others are doing it and that’s why I did as well. I don’t like it when people say I just happen to be the one who got caught. Bottom line is you got caught. Is it really that hard to just apologize?

In the scheme of things this is probably analogous to a speeding ticket but like I said there is probably more to it. I am curious to see how Jason Koon is being looked at by his fellow high stakes pros. Did he just break an unwritten rule or did he do the right thing?

All and all massive over reaction by Perkins. I refuse to believe he thought every member on this app was going to play ethically. The fallout will be interesting to see. My guess is this evaporates into the ether within a week or so given no new major revelations.

In addition to the Girah scandal, Jungleman may have had a part in this scandal involving cheating Doug Polk in 2013:

https://www.pokernews.com/news/2013/...mput-16065.htm

Definitely don't trust the guy.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

In addition to the Girah scandal, Jungleman may have had a part in this scandal involving cheating Doug Polk in 2013:

https://www.pokernews.com/news/2013/...mput-16065.htm

Definitely don't trust the guy.

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It makes you wonder if Tom Dwan had info on Jungleman, allowing Tom to get out of that big match they had back in the day.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Jungle's statement:

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Originally Posted by Jungleman

I'd like to address the allegations posed by Dan Bilzerian in this now deleted tweet. I could not do so earlier due to legal advice and financial matters.

To be clear, I started playing with Sina (his last name is not Taleb, for the record) on may 8th and ultimately played very few sessions, none of which were against Dan Bilzerian as claimed.

I played very few hands against Bill Perkins, who sat in a game I understood was rampant with professionals who were ghosting. I thought since many on the site were using pros to play for them (which was clear by the uniquely high level of play) at the time it felt acceptable for me to be playing. Unfortunately Bill got caught in the crossfire and I'm very sorry for that.

While I don't think it's fair that I’ve been singled out for something many were much more guilty of, I accept that as a role model for the poker community my punishment should be disproportionate compared to a normal player. I hold myself to a high standard of ethics and aspire to be devoid of inequity, but I still make mistakes and am sorry for my actions. I will do my best to behave better in the future.

I'd also like to give gratitude to my friends and the people that supported me on the internet and other communications. Your efforts were vital to mitigating this situation and I appreciate your concern for me. Special thanks to Nick Schulman who contacted me to make sure I was ok and started the #Freejungle movement. If anyone else believes in my integrity and that I should not be lambasted over the internet, I would appreciate any support and will appreciate it especially if I know you.

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So Jungleman is hinting that he was playing on the Sina account but never outright said it. What a douche no balls move. Just fucking outright admit it!

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So Jungleman is hinting that he was playing on the Sina account but never outright said it. What a douche no balls move. Just fucking outright admit it!

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I totally agree Matt. If he just said “ I am guilty, I fucked up, I will do all I can to make this right with Bill and to hopefully in time restore my reputation in the poker community”. How much more powerful would that be than this long winded rationalization?