Read this short story and give your reaction

It's called "Cat Person": https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2.../11/cat-person

It's from December 2017, and went viral, but I read it yesterday for the first time.

It will take you about 10 minutes to read.

It is notable due to the various, vastly different reactions to it, especially between men and women.

Read it and post your true reaction/feelings regarding the story.

BTW, it is fiction, so none of the events in the story ever occurred, nor are the characters real people.

I will post my reaction later.

she was a bitch and he was a loser

What strong opinions are there to have? Nobody here is really the bad guy. Robert comes off like kind of an asshole at first, but you soon learn that he's just insecure. You could criticize Margot for stringing him along, but it's understandable to feel too awkward after a certain point.

Both of them are complicating everything by being nervous, deflecting with jokes, making wild assumptions and not being direct. About halfway through the story you just feel awful for both of them. The whole thing is kinda sad.

Oh, people think Robert's a rapist? loooool sigh

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Oh, people think Robert's a rapist? loooool sigh

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Really?

I don’t know where that would come from. That she drank a bit much?

Zap pretty much nailed it. He’s an awkward nerd and her telling everyone and making a big production out of something she initiated makes her kind of a bitch.

Shit like that happens all the time imo

Other shit happens too

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Oh, people think Robert's a rapist? loooool sigh

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Really?

I don’t know where that would come from. That she drank a bit much?

Zap pretty much nailed it. He’s an awkward nerd and her telling everyone and making a big production out of something she initiated makes her kind of a bitch.

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She's young and stupid the way young people are. Her retelling the story has her at her best light and he at his worst. People tend to do that to shift focus from their actions. It's easier to come out a hero that way. Also why it's actually hard to know what happened even if you hear both sides of "he said, she said" stories".

Oh and for a 10 minute story that took ages. Slight possibility that i'm not in the target demographic.

I quit after ten minutes when I checked and realized I had another 20 to go.

Did he fuck her?

I guess it's longer than 10 minutes. I read it while at Commerce last night, so I guess I didn't really keep track of time.

Anyway, before I get to my opinion, the interesting thing about this story involves the extremely varied reactions depending upon the demographic reading it:

Typical straight female: "OMG I can totally relate! I've been exactly in her position before! Yes! I thought I was the crazy one and was ashamed to admit it. But holy fuck, this is accurate, and I bet tons of women have had an experience exactly like this!"

Typical straight male: "Looks to me like Robert had no game and no idea how to romance a woman. But that Margot chick was really shallow, led him on, couldn't make up her mind, sent mixed signals, and then was disgusted just because he bent down at an angle which made his belly look bigger? Fuck, I hope this isn't representative of how women think. Because if it is, it explains a lot regarding some chicks who seemed to be into me and just vanished."

SJW male: "This is very eye-opening. It shows that us men have a long way to go regarding how we treat women, and how even when we think we are careful to get consent, maybe we are still making them uncomfortable. I really hope I've never been a 'Robert', and if I have, I apologize to any women I made uncomfortable!"

Feminist: "Story perfectly illustrates the patriarchy and male privilege. Women are still under the impression that, at some point, they are obligated to have sex with their date, even if they don't really want it. They seem to believe they lack the ability to change their minds, either due to societal expectations or fear of violence. This situation was borderline rape, and the perpetrator didn't even realize it."

SJW female: "It is hard to root for the Margot character because this is yet another tale of thin straight white young cisgender female angst. Why is this story getting so much attention? Where is the attention for similar pieces involving women of color, lesbians, overweight women, or transgender women? I am having trouble feeling any sympathy for a character who is already in such a position of privilege. Also WTF is with the fat shaming?"


If you want to read the cringeworthy reactions of some SJW soy boys, go here: https://www.thecut.com/2017/12/8-men...at-person.html

She flipflops all over the place, overthinks and reads too much into everything... neurotic.

Sort of story you'd know it was fiction without being told it was.

So here's my take on it:

First off, the ending was horrible.

Absolutely horrible.

It was like the author was intending for Margot to be the hero, Robert the villain, and then realized that she wrote the story in such a way to where certain people might exit the story with sympathy for Robert. Rather than doing a rewrite in order to convey a different message, the author probably decided, "You know what? I'll just have Robert step totally out of character at the end and abruptly become outwardly obsessive, crass, and vindictive. Let's see here... I'll write about 10 consecutive short-but-crazy texts from him for the story's ending... annnnnnnnnnnnnd.... done! Perfect! Now he's the villain for sure!

I wasn't the only one to notice this. After I read the story and was highly disappointed by the lazy ending, I read other comments online (from both genders). Many were lamenting the way the author had to beat us over the head with "Robert really is a bad guy" narrative in the final 0.5% of the story.

That aside, I found neither character to be likable, so the story was difficult for me to get through. I only forced myself because I had heard it went viral 16 months ago, and I wanted to understand what the fuss was all about.

Robert was frustratingly clueless about women, but in an annoyingly self-assured sort of way. He wasn't the charming-but-awkward nerd who you'd root for to end up with the girl. As I read the story, I wondered where it was going to go. Robert was believable enough as a potential jerk to where I could see him raping Margot, but he also wasn't an obvious villain. Either way, he annoyed me and I didn't like him.

Margot, however, was even worse. She led Robert on. She couldn't make her mind up about him, sometimes psyching herself out to be turned on and excited by him, and other times being repulsed by him. She was also incredibly shallow, completely losing her taste for him because he bent over awkwardly to grab something while naked, and his "fat hairy belly" suddenly looked ugly to her. Really? That's all it took? What's the message to men here -- that they better watch how they bend over while naked, or they lose their sex appeal forever? I would understand if this passage were written in order to make Margot look shallow, but instead it was written to validate real life shallow women and their "OMG he suddenly repulsed me" moments from their younger (and perhaps current) dating years.

I would hope that women who see their past selves in Margot would take the attitude of, "Wow, this all rings a bell, I can't believe I was once this shallow and wishy-washy, but I'm glad I've grown as a person since then." Instead, it seems the character is sending a message of validation -- one of, "Oh, so all women do this, so I had nothing to feel guilty about."

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So here's my take on it:

First off, the ending was horrible.

Absolutely horrible.

It was like the author was intending for Margot to be the hero, Robert the villain, and then realized that she wrote the story in such a way to where certain people might exit the story with sympathy for Robert. Rather than doing a rewrite in order to convey a different message, the author probably decided, "You know what? I'll just have Robert step totally out of character at the end and abruptly become outwardly obsessive, crass, and vindictive. Let's see here... I'll write about 10 consecutive short-but-crazy texts from him for the story's ending... annnnnnnnnnnnnd.... done! Perfect! Now he's the villain for sure!

I wasn't the only one to notice this. After I read the story and was highly disappointed by the lazy ending, I read other comments online (from both genders). Many were lamenting the way the author had to beat us over the head with "Robert really is a bad guy" narrative in the final 0.5% of the story.

That aside, I found neither character to be likable, so the story was difficult for me to get through. I only forced myself because I had heard it went viral 16 months ago, and I wanted to understand what the fuss was all about.

Robert was frustratingly clueless about women, but in an annoyingly self-assured sort of way. He wasn't the charming-but-awkward nerd who you'd root for to end up with the girl. As I read the story, I wondered where it was going to go. Robert was believable enough as a potential jerk to where I could see him raping Margot, but he also wasn't an obvious villain. Either way, he annoyed me and I didn't like him.

Margot, however, was even worse. She led Robert on. She couldn't make her mind up about him, sometimes psyching herself out to be turned on and excited by him, and other times being repulsed by him. She was also incredibly shallow, completely losing her taste for him because he bent over awkwardly to grab something while naked, and his "fat hairy belly" suddenly looked ugly to her. Really? That's all it took? What's the message to men here -- that they better watch how they bend over while naked, or they lose their sex appeal forever? I would understand if this passage were written in order to make Margot look shallow, but instead it was written to validate real life shallow women and their "OMG he suddenly repulsed me" moments from their younger (and perhaps current) dating years.

I would hope that women who see their past selves in Margot would take the attitude of, "Wow, this all rings a bell, I can't believe I was once this shallow and wishy-washy, but I'm glad I've grown as a person since then." Instead, it seems the character is sending a message of validation -- one of, "Oh, so all women do this, so I had nothing to feel guilty about."

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Good thing you aren't reading too much in to any of this, unlike the 5 caricature opinions you provided.

It's a short story. The ending is lazy in the sense this wasn't a novel or novella. There's nothing out of the ordinary in the ending in context of the format.

The writer is a woman in her late 30s. In all likelihood she hates young attractive women more than you do.

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So here's my take on it:

First off, the ending was horrible.

Absolutely horrible.

It was like the author was intending for Margot to be the hero, Robert the villain, and then realized that she wrote the story in such a way to where certain people might exit the story with sympathy for Robert. Rather than doing a rewrite in order to convey a different message, the author probably decided, "You know what? I'll just have Robert step totally out of character at the end and abruptly become outwardly obsessive, crass, and vindictive. Let's see here... I'll write about 10 consecutive short-but-crazy texts from him for the story's ending... annnnnnnnnnnnnd.... done! Perfect! Now he's the villain for sure!

I wasn't the only one to notice this. After I read the story and was highly disappointed by the lazy ending, I read other comments online (from both genders). Many were lamenting the way the author had to beat us over the head with "Robert really is a bad guy" narrative in the final 0.5% of the story.

That aside, I found neither character to be likable, so the story was difficult for me to get through. I only forced myself because I had heard it went viral 16 months ago, and I wanted to understand what the fuss was all about.

Robert was frustratingly clueless about women, but in an annoyingly self-assured sort of way. He wasn't the charming-but-awkward nerd who you'd root for to end up with the girl. As I read the story, I wondered where it was going to go. Robert was believable enough as a potential jerk to where I could see him raping Margot, but he also wasn't an obvious villain. Either way, he annoyed me and I didn't like him.

Margot, however, was even worse. She led Robert on. She couldn't make her mind up about him, sometimes psyching herself out to be turned on and excited by him, and other times being repulsed by him. She was also incredibly shallow, completely losing her taste for him because he bent over awkwardly to grab something while naked, and his "fat hairy belly" suddenly looked ugly to her. Really? That's all it took? What's the message to men here -- that they better watch how they bend over while naked, or they lose their sex appeal forever? I would understand if this passage were written in order to make Margot look shallow, but instead it was written to validate real life shallow women and their "OMG he suddenly repulsed me" moments from their younger (and perhaps current) dating years.

I would hope that women who see their past selves in Margot would take the attitude of, "Wow, this all rings a bell, I can't believe I was once this shallow and wishy-washy, but I'm glad I've grown as a person since then." Instead, it seems the character is sending a message of validation -- one of, "Oh, so all women do this, so I had nothing to feel guilty about."

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Good thing you aren't reading too much in to any of this, unlike the 5 caricature opinions you provided.

It's a short story. The ending is lazy in the sense this wasn't a novel or novella. There's nothing out of the ordinary in the ending in context of the format.

The writer is a woman in her late 30s. In all likelihood she hates young attractive women more than you do.

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More than likely, this fictional story is based in large part on her own personal experience when she was younger, and updated re the extensive use of texting for communication to be more relevant to modern readers.

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Good thing you aren't reading too much in to any of this, unlike the 5 caricature opinions you provided.

It's a short story. The ending is lazy in the sense this wasn't a novel or novella. There's nothing out of the ordinary in the ending in context of the format.

The writer is a woman in her late 30s. In all likelihood she hates young attractive women more than you do.

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More than likely, this fictional story is based in large part on her own personal experience when she was younger, and updated re the extensive use of texting for communication to be more relevant to modern readers.

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Doesn't read anything like it. Women rarely choose as their "avatar" a character that's only positive attribute is nice tits. Margot is likely someone she knew in some form but it's not the writer herself.

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Doesn't read anything like it. Women rarely choose as their "avatar" a character that's only positive attribute is nice tits. Margot is likely someone she knew in some form but it's not the writer herself.

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It's unclear if the writer made "Margot" a version of her younger self, or if it as a completely fictitious invention.

I could believe it either way.

She probably did at least have an experience of her own where she wanted to reject a man during the "late stage" of a date shortly before sex would normally happen, and felt uncomfortable doing so.

She didn't seem to understand men very well. The Robert character was all over the place, and that ending was totally out of character. It was like she lifted it from dating site tales where some guys get inexplicably rude and obscene after getting turned down. Totally didn't fit with the rest of the story. Remember, one part of the story had Margot's roommate sending a blunt rejection via text to Robert (as Margot), and he responded very politely. Then, later, after seeing her at a bar with another guy and avoiding him, he still texted her politely. The ending was lazy writing, plain and simple. Plus the author just doesn't understand men.

This is actually a common problem in fiction writing. Women sometimes have a hard time writing for male characters, and vice versa.

You shouldn’t have called her a whore Druff, that was mean.

Ain’t no way that story takes 10 minutes to read. I stopped at the point where they were at the bar and he offered to buy her a vodka soda but she wanted a beer.

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Doesn't read anything like it. Women rarely choose as their "avatar" a character that's only positive attribute is nice tits. Margot is likely someone she knew in some form but it's not the writer herself.

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It's unclear if the writer made "Margot" a version of her younger self, or if it as a completely fictitious invention.

I could believe it either way.

She probably did at least have an experience of her own where she wanted to reject a man during the "late stage" of a date shortly before sex would normally happen, and felt uncomfortable doing so.

She didn't seem to understand men very well. The Robert character was all over the place, and that ending was totally out of character. It was like she lifted it from dating site tales where some guys get inexplicably rude and obscene after getting turned down. Totally didn't fit with the rest of the story. Remember, one part of the story had Margot's roommate sending a blunt rejection via text to Robert (as Margot), and he responded very politely. Then, later, after seeing her at a bar with another guy and avoiding him, he still texted her politely. The ending was lazy writing, plain and simple. Plus the author just doesn't understand men.

This is actually a common problem in fiction writing. Women sometimes have a hard time writing for male characters, and vice versa.

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Robert character could be said to have been written as an insecure loser and for that lashing out (partially warranted) doesn't seem out of character or that his initial response to rejection would be polite. As resentment grew and he realized nothing could be saved after a night of drinking sending 10 texts doesn't seem out of place.

She prefers writing fairly open ended characters and that might explain some of the appeal. I was mostly just bored.

The clues to Margot not being her are in the lack of positive attributes and the way she is described. There are no real excuses provided for her actions. Not to say you can't have negative versions of yourself as characters, but they usually are made differently. Weirdly Robert resembles those more.

I think the writer fairly explicitly has said Margot is not her, but parts of the story are based on real dates she had in her mid 30s. She now lives with a woman. In her 20s she volunteered for Peace Corps in Kenya.

Oh yea and as non drinker i can guarantee that people make stupid decisions when they are drunk all the time. Like sleeping with people they aren't that attracted to and sending texts to exes/crushes.

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I think the writer fairly explicitly has said Margot is not her, but parts of the story are based on real dates she had in her mid 30s. She now lives with a woman. In her 20s she volunteered for Peace Corps in Kenya.

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Interesting. I didn't bother to look up much about the writer. I googled her picture, and saw she was an average-looking white chick in her late 30s with short hair.

Didn't know she turned out to be a lesbian. Guess that would explain why she had some dates where guys turned her off so easily.

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I think the writer fairly explicitly has said Margot is not her, but parts of the story are based on real dates she had in her mid 30s. She now lives with a woman. In her 20s she volunteered for Peace Corps in Kenya.

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Interesting. I didn't bother to look up much about the writer. I googled her picture, and saw she was an average-looking white chick in her late 30s with short hair.

Didn't know she turned out to be a lesbian. Guess that would explain why she had some dates where guys turned her off so easily.

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Speaking from personal experience in my younger and quite ignorant days, a lot of non-lesbian women are turned off by the heavy handed manual pawing, speedy position gymnastics, and crude verbalizations that sexually inexperienced men are fooled into thinking women find sexy by your run-of-the-mill porn flick.

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I think the writer fairly explicitly has said Margot is not her, but parts of the story are based on real dates she had in her mid 30s. She now lives with a woman. In her 20s she volunteered for Peace Corps in Kenya.

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Interesting. I didn't bother to look up much about the writer. I googled her picture, and saw she was an average-looking white chick in her late 30s with short hair.

Didn't know she turned out to be a lesbian. Guess that would explain why she had some dates where guys turned her off so easily.

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I wouldn't be too surprised if there was more of her in Robert. At the time she was 34ish and she still spent time with students in their 20s. This was after a 7 year relationship had ended. So somewhat rusty and this might have been the first time she dated women. Margot is described as fickle and accidentally cruel in a way that's rare for autobiographical accounts.

This webpage about the author was kinda funny: https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Kristen_Roupenian

It was through that page where I found one of her odd posts on "MetaFilter", answering a guy looking for advice regarding placing an ad for casual sex.

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I'm memailing you a link to a profile that accomplishes this beautifully. (I'm a woman, and it worked on me.)

For what it's worth, it does basically the opposite of everything you're describing: it includes a lot of photos, and a ton of personal information. These are the kinds of things that, on a profile, earn trust. As a woman, if I'm meeting up with a guy with the express purpose of having sex, it's crucial for me to have a good sense of who he is, because the stakes are much higher.

Think about it. There's a lot less leeway going into it than there is if I'm just planning to have a cup of coffee with someone and see where it goes. I can take a risk that a guy I'm just meeting for coffee in a public place might be a murderer, or have a secret girlfriend, or be a raging misogynist; I can't take that risk if within an hour or so we're going to a private place to have sex. I've met up with people for NSA sex a handful of times in my life, and every time I asked for way more personal information (Facebook, Instagram, direct contact info as opposed to dating site contact, heck - first & last name) than I did for random dates.

It sounds to me like you're thinking of it like this: I have lower standards for the people I'd have NSA sex with than people I'd date, so I ought to have a different profile that let's people know that! Whereas for me, the opposite holds true: my standards for someone who I'm going to have casual sex with are much, much higher. I'll meet for coffee with anyone who seems basically interesting; I meet for sex only with people who are not only very physically attractive (I'd never in a million years reach out to someone who didn't have photos) but who signal in all those subtle class-based ways - including having good grammar and good taste in books - that they're likely to see casual sex in the same way I do, and to be respectful, communicative, open, pro-choice, knowledgeable about safe sex, etc.

The only difference (if there is one) between your NSA sex profile and your dating one, if you must have two profiles, is that your sex one should state explicitly that you're looking for casual sex, and what your definition of 'casual' is (i.e., are you looking for a one night stand or a regular friend-with benefits, etc.) That's it.

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You can find it here: https://ask.metafilter.com/292616/Wh...for-casual-sex

The part which is especially off-putting in that response is where she talks about only meeting guys for casual sex who were "very physically attractive". This is from a woman who, at best, is average looking herself. Reminds me all too much of the meme of the fat zit-faced guy saying, "Wouldn't bang her, elbows too pointy."

She used to post on that site as "pretentious illiterate", but disabled her account shortly after blowing up huge, and not wanting some of her posts there to embarrass her.

Apparently she sold the rights to this and some other short stories for $1.2 million. Wow. https://www.elle.com/culture/books/a...ten-roupenian/

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Interesting. I didn't bother to look up much about the writer. I googled her picture, and saw she was an average-looking white chick in her late 30s with short hair.

Didn't know she turned out to be a lesbian. Guess that would explain why she had some dates where guys turned her off so easily.

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Speaking from personal experience in my younger and quite ignorant days, a lot of non-lesbian women are turned off by the heavy handed manual pawing, speedy position gymnastics, and crude verbalizations that sexually inexperienced men are fooled into thinking women find sexy by your run-of-the-mill porn flick.

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Look in the mirror lately? That's likely what they were turned off by. With all due respect.

This guy has zero game. This girl is 20 and has never had fantastic sex. They are both neurotic as hell.

Read the story. Don't think either of them are bad people or did anything wrong really. He's useless with women and she's shallow/can't make her mind up. Neither of those mean they are bad people. Don't understand the hype from SJWs or right-wingers eager to discredit SJW.

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Read the story. Don't think either of them are bad people or did anything wrong really. He's useless with women and she's shallow/can't make her mind up. Neither of those mean they are bad people. Don't understand the hype from SJWs or right-wingers eager to discredit SJW.

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The Encycopedia Dramatica article I posted described the hype as, "Cat Person struck a chord because it expressed collective horror among feminist aggrocunts about a universal experience: the time they had sex with a lonely overweight dude unworthy of their hot college bods."

Though Encyclopedia Dramatica is basically a troll version of Wikipedia, mostly about internet culture, I think that statement basically nails it.

The story reminded a lot of women about their college-aged days where they kinda-sorta liked a not-so-attractive guy, messed around with him, and then by the time sex was about to happen, they were grossed out but were afraid to say no at that point.

When these women read "Cat Person", they thought, "OMG that was totally me at age 20", and they shared it with other women, who then had the same reaction, and it kept getting shared and started going viral.

Then, on top of that, you had males and SJWs with their different takes on it, and suddenly it became a big thing. Now the author is getting $1.2 million for what is honestly just a mediocre short story with a dumb ending.

Nice life.

I actually found this story recently through a woman on my Facebook who shared it.

She's close to my age, and I've known her for almost 30 years, though we've never dated.

She absolutely loved the story, and in fact didn't agree with the flaws I pointed out. Having messed around with some guys she really wasn't all that into, having dudes lash out at her when she rejects them (especially on dating sites), and dealing with guys whose interest level seems to jump all over the place, she felt that the story basically spoke to her.

She didn't even agree that the Margot character was shallow -- just "young and inexperienced".

I feel like this thread is PFA's version of an afternoon book club.

https://previews.123rf.com/images/st...-book-club.jpg

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Read the story. Don't think either of them are bad people or did anything wrong really. He's useless with women and she's shallow/can't make her mind up. Neither of those mean they are bad people. Don't understand the hype from SJWs or right-wingers eager to discredit SJW.

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The Encycopedia Dramatica article I posted described the hype as, "Cat Person struck a chord because it expressed collective horror among feminist aggrocunts about a universal experience: the time they had sex with a lonely overweight dude unworthy of their hot college bods."

Though Encyclopedia Dramatica is basically a troll version of Wikipedia, mostly about internet culture, I think that statement basically nails it.

The story reminded a lot of women about their college-aged days where they kinda-sorta liked a not-so-attractive guy, messed around with him, and then by the time sex was about to happen, they were grossed out but were afraid to say no at that point.

When these women read "Cat Person", they thought, "OMG that was totally me at age 20", and they shared it with other women, who then had the same reaction, and it kept getting shared and started going viral.

Then, on top of that, you had males and SJWs with their different takes on it, and suddenly it became a big thing. Now the author is getting $1.2 million for what is honestly just a mediocre short story with a dumb ending.

Nice life.

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Overthinking this much? You're as bad as the cunt in the story.

Here’s most likely what happened:

Girl accepts attention from boy below her standards because she is lonely.
Boy and girl drink alcohol.
Girl goes home with boy.
Boys sucks in bed (remember, he’s drunk too).
Girl leaves early next morning, blames her bad judgment on alcohol.
Boy later sees girl at bar.
Boy probably can’t even remember half that night.
Boy texts girl for another hookup, doesn’t go over since she’s with friends.
Boy gets shot down.

No harm, no fouls committed by either party.

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Read the story. Don't think either of them are bad people or did anything wrong really. He's useless with women and she's shallow/can't make her mind up. Neither of those mean they are bad people. Don't understand the hype from SJWs or right-wingers eager to discredit SJW.

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The Encycopedia Dramatica article I posted described the hype as, "Cat Person struck a chord because it expressed collective horror among feminist aggrocunts about a universal experience: the time they had sex with a lonely overweight dude unworthy of their hot college bods."

Though Encyclopedia Dramatica is basically a troll version of Wikipedia, mostly about internet culture, I think that statement basically nails it.

The story reminded a lot of women about their college-aged days where they kinda-sorta liked a not-so-attractive guy, messed around with him, and then by the time sex was about to happen, they were grossed out but were afraid to say no at that point.

When these women read "Cat Person", they thought, "OMG that was totally me at age 20", and they shared it with other women, who then had the same reaction, and it kept getting shared and started going viral.

Then, on top of that, you had males and SJWs with their different takes on it, and suddenly it became a big thing. Now the author is getting $1.2 million for what is honestly just a mediocre short story with a dumb ending.

Nice life.

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You’re just envious that your autobiographical accounts of your sexual adventures are only published on a website that you run at a small loss.

#EnvyIsUglyBro

Guy feels used at the end which is why he lashes out.

Girl is too chicken to say what she wants or doesn’t want....has been with 7 guys at the age of 20....that’s a bit high.

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Guy feels used at the end which is why he lashes out.

Girl is too chicken to say what she wants or doesn’t want....has been with 7 guys at the age of 20....that’s a bit high.

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7 guys at 20 is high? Your college days must have been dry

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So here's my take on it:

First off, the ending was horrible.

Absolutely horrible.

It was like the author was intending for Margot to be the hero, Robert the villain, and then realized that she wrote the story in such a way to where certain people might exit the story with sympathy for Robert. Rather than doing a rewrite in order to convey a different message, the author probably decided, "You know what? I'll just have Robert step totally out of character at the end and abruptly become outwardly obsessive, crass, and vindictive. Let's see here... I'll write about 10 consecutive short-but-crazy texts from him for the story's ending... annnnnnnnnnnnnd.... done! Perfect! Now he's the villain for sure!

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I agree the ending is bad. But I doubt the author hastily tacked it on at the end to reinforce Robert as the villain. I can almost guarantee that the author wrote that exact ending first. It's a common writing process to start with an intriguing ending and build back from there. The ending is bad but it's effective for the intended audience. Without that specific ending, nobody is talking about this short story. I think the ending is bad because, as you point out, it betrays Robert's character development leading up to the finale and it creates a unfortunate caricature out of Robert. She likely had that ending in mind, wrote the rest of the story, and paradoxically developed Robert's character throughout the story with TOO MUCH nuance. Kind of a Catch 22 for the author. Write a realistic ending and catch nobody's attention or include a sensational but flawed ending and go viral. Almost every writer is willing to sell out and choose the latter.

Also, suck my nuts you whores.

Read THIS short story and give your reaction...

Mom allegedly had sex with both her daughters’ teen boyfriends

https://nypost.com/2019/04/17/mom-al...en-boyfriends/

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A California mom may serve time after she had sex with both of her own daughters’ boyfriends — who were each high school freshmen when she stole them away from the girls, officials said.

Coral Lytle, of Tulare, pleaded guilty in March to 21 sex-related charges including unlawful sexual intercourse, oral copulation and contacting a minor for sex, news station KFSN reported.

But a disagreement over the 41-year-old mom’s sentencing Monday has caused a delay in the case and could now allow her to withdraw the plea, according to KFSN.

Lytle was accused of having sex on multiple occasions with the two Redwood High School students between September and October 2017.

Prosecutors said the mom provided alcohol and cigars to the underage boys, and would drive from her home to them for the raunchy rendezvous.

“The crimes in this case committed by the defendant involved great cruelty and callousness especially considering the defendant took advantage of a position of trust to molest two boys who she met when they (were in) teenage dating relationships with the defendant’s daughters,” prosecutors wrote in recent filings.

Authorities were initially notified when one of teen boys reported the “inappropriate relationship” with Lytle.

“[The victim] stated this was the last time he had sex with [Lytle] because he felt bad shaking [Lytle’s] husband’s hand knowing what he was doing with [Lytle],” prosecutors said.

Lytle appeared in court Monday, where the initial plea agreements collapsed as multiple judges disagreed over her sentence.

A judge indicated at a hearing in early March that she would likely be sentenced to three years in prison, but then a different judge who oversaw her enter the plea last month said he would offer her one year in county jail with a suspended six-year sentence.

Then a third judge said Monday he didn’t believe the sentence was appropriate and set another hearing for the following week.

The new hearing will enable the mom to withdraw her plea, prosecutors said.

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Only super-hot women should get off for fucking kids.

How about that she gets life in prison for being butt fucking ugly?


https://thenypost.files.wordpress.co...6&h=820&crop=1

pretty sure any freshman fucking their girlfriends mom is a "Redwood" High School student

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Guy feels used at the end which is why he lashes out.

Girl is too chicken to say what she wants or doesn’t want....has been with 7 guys at the age of 20....that’s a bit high.

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7 guys at 20 is high? Your college days must have been dry

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Yeah 7 at 20 is high...she’s a sophomore and has already fucked 7 dudes...slutty for sure.

My college years were pretty dry though...ha