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BCR your boy going to keep his job? Didn’t he learn from Tressel the cover up is always worse than the crime?
He’s currently plus odds to keep his job:
https://saturdaytradition.com/ohio-s...fired-resigns/
Story on potentially lying about knowing his assistant was a repeated domestic abuser:
https://www.facebook.com/TheBrettMcM...2037522486968/
Huge Urban fan here. But fuck that guy if he knew and covered it up. You can't preach like he preaches and then be doing this behind closed doors. No way he didn't know but it might be hard to technically prove. His wife comes out and says "I never told Urban." Then what?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheesfaced
He for sure knew about the 2009 incident, when she was pregnant. Seems to have had his people convince her to drop the charges so he'd still be able to coach since "he'll probably never do it again."Quote:
Originally Posted by jsearles22
oops.
I would be completely fine with all of this if it was about winning at all costs but it wasn't. Zach Smith is a terrible coach. The only reason he was even on the staff is because he's Earle Bruce's grandson.
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Originally Posted by Crowe DiddlyHe for sure knew about the 2009 incident, when she was pregnant. Seems to have had his people convince her to drop the charges so he'd still be able to coach since "he'll probably never do it again."Quote:
Originally Posted by jsearles22
oops.
Pretty fucked up. Heard about it a few hours before it broke from my buddy who works in athletics at Ohio State. He said the sense is he’s done. Seems kind of amazing to me. She never showed the pics to urban’s wife, and her own parents told her to not call the cops at some point or he’d lose his job. So in other words, she and her own family made a financial calculation at some point, yet it will fall on Urban. I’ve been super busy, all I know of the situation is what my buddy told me. I don’t know the details, and he wasn’t sure he was going to be fired, just that was the feeling in the building. Sounded like it came down to his wife would have to be the fall guy, and people at the university didn’t feel that would be palatable in this environment.
goddamn it...I was so enjoying him absolutely beating the shit outta Michigan year in and year out with no end in sight...
man i'd love to see the lane train get that job because he's smug as fuck and would just fuck with Michigan all the time, but I don't think he's got the chops to actually beat them on a consistent basis and don't think his style would fly in Columbus...
Also said people were already talking Matt Campbell from Iowa State as a coach of interest and some Stoops talk.
I'd rather roll with Schiano/Day than either of those two.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCR
need to get that OSU t-shirt that says BCR knows...totally forgot about stoops...that makes total sense...he won 1 title at OU correct? josh white team???Quote:
Originally Posted by BCR
matt campbell would be a hella ballsy hire...is that dude even in his 40s yet?
I can't see him lasting through the weekend. Urban basically destroyed the UF program in his tenure even though they won while he was there. They have been a disaster since he left in 2009 as he basically developed a toxic culture at UF of win at all costs which led to Aaron Hernandez and three head coaches in 8 years. They have not recovered, it was that bad when he left. My guess is what he did at UF followed him at OSU. It would not surprise me if evidence comes out he knew of Ezekiel Elliot and covered it up, my guess is this is the tip of the iceberg.
Urban is a fabulous coach, but his days in college are over. Unfortunately for him, I am not sure the NFL will want him either. Tressel could not find a job nor could Art Briles, each were on top of their game. In this #metoo environment the only guy that is surviving is Trump.
My guess is he will get walking money of $10M dollars with an NDA and try his best to get with an NFL team, although that is going to be tough in this environment. The only guy I could see hiring him is Jerry Jones, Jerry is a big enough personality to survive the backlash from the media.
Class action lawyers are going to descend on OSU now, it's has the potential to set the program back 5 years. This team was a lock to get to the final 4, now they could be looking at 7 wins as players will simply be looking to the NFL this season.
Stoops left so abruptly I am not sure what happened at Oklahoma. I mean he just signed a huge extension and just quit. He cited burnout, wanting to do other things, etc.. Maybe that is the case, but he had a hugely talented squad and the leading Heisman QB coming back, and he quits a couple months before the season. It just never sound plausible. Stoops was literally at the top of his coaching career, mid 50s making his peak money and just quits when he had his most talented team/QB in the last decade. Just did not make any sense, I doubt he is coming back to coaching any time soon. He might make a Dick Vermiel comeback in a few years though, but I believe it would be in the NFL.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCR
doesn't that blueprint sound familiar? literally the urban meyer blueprint...im too tired/burnout/health is an issue/etc...then all of a sudden the dream job of any Ohioan opens up and all of a sudden those things aren't issues any more...Quote:
Originally Posted by DraymondStoops left so abruptly I am not sure what happened at Oklahoma. I mean he just signed a huge extension and just quit. He cited burnout, wanting to do other things, etc.. Maybe that is the case, but he had a hugely talented squad and the leading Heisman QB coming back, and he quits a couple months before the season. It just never sound plausible. Stoops was literally at the top of his coaching career, mid 50s making his peak money and just quits when he had his most talented team/QB in the last decade. Just did not make any sense, I doubt he is coming back to coaching any time soon. He might make a Dick Vermiel comeback in a few years though, but I believe it would be in the NFL.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCR
What kind of backwater hillbilly name is Urban. You've got Spiro, Lyndon and now Urban. Nickname Urb.
Fucking idiots
Depending on how long he wants to coach for, he might disappear for a year or 2, end up as an assistant for a few years somewhere, some small school gives him the job, they have a great season, then the big schools come calling. It's a big money sport, almost everything gets forgiven/glossed over eventually, if a company/university can make enough money off a guy. If he wants to coach for another 15 years, he might have those last 8 in a pretty big spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Draymond
I don't really know college football all that well, I just figure if he says good for long enough, he's $$$$ to someone.
Named after pope. Super catholic familyQuote:
Originally Posted by limitles
When you name your kid after Pope Urban II, you certainly are making a statement about your general worldview.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCRNamed after pope. Super catholic familyQuote:
Originally Posted by limitles
Yeah but who named their kid Urban the second.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crowe DiddlyWhen you name your kid after Pope Urban II, you certainly are making a statement about your general worldview.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCR
Yea, I was shocked they were throwing out names. He said from what he gathered, it’s all about who knew what as far as title ix , hence the outside names. He said there was talk it might be Grinch named as active until they sort it out because he just got there, but I guess Day was far enough removed from the incident. My buddy works in facilities, not making decisions for the program, so this was basically just water cooler shit he heard earlier today.Quote:
Originally Posted by devideeI'd rather roll with Schiano/Day than either of those two.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCR
Woodrow....you can't make this shit up
I cannot name one Canadian's name from history. Not one. Try sucking on that. Get out of this thread, you have no colleges in Canada that play football. Stop polluting every thread with your drivel.Quote:
Originally Posted by limitles
GroverQuote:
Originally Posted by DraymondI cannot name one Canadian's name from history. Not one. Try sucking on that. Get out of this thread, you have no colleges in Canada that play football. Stop polluting every thread with your drivel.Quote:
Originally Posted by limitles
Probably responsible for Aaron Hernandez also.
he almost certainly covered up for Hernandez on more than one occasionQuote:
Originally Posted by TwitchySeal
oh right, it's a college football coach....that matters
hashtag paterno sick fucks
.....brother Rural ready to take the reigns
I never understand in these situations where people cover up for culprits that are largely insignificant.
Jerry Sandusky, this OSU guy, Rob Porter from Trump admin, Larry Nassar etc. may have been good at their jobs but don’t seem valuable enough to cover up for.
It would make more sense if the OSU AD was covering for Urban Meyer if he was a wife beater, but this is some WR coach. Really dumb
It makes sense when you realize the coach in question is Earle Bruce's grandson.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe
I haven’t talked to anyone, but from reading through shit, I think he may survive it. If he doesn’t, the shit at Florida and the bad PR will add to title ix nonsense. I only call it nonsense because the idea of reporting something to the university that has already been reported to multiple police jurisdictions seems redundant, albeit mandatory. This isn’t sexual assault type stuff usually associated with title ix. This is typical domestic shit that is certainly abusive, but once the cops are informed, and the woman decides to not press charges, it’s rather typical domestic situation. If you talk the girl out of pressing charges or try to influence her, you should go to jail, but this title ix stuff for this seems silly given the police had been already notified and clearly deemed it much ado about nothing. Stupid way to lose your job for being overly loyal to your mentors hotheaded grandson, but not some inherently evil act. And I’m not a huge fan of urban the man, as all stories I’ve heard are he’s kind of an arrogant prick, but this doesn’t seem something any different than you see in culture every day or seem some elaborate coverup like Florida. Just he said/she said/cops weren’t overly concerned type stuff. Everything I’ve heard is they are both kind of douches. Smith was arrogant, his wife obnoxious and a bad scene drinker at events, and just strikes me as standard shit in many young marriages that have had a little success between two spouses that are kind of jackasses.
Apparently, Project Veritas is about to release a video of "undercover" interviews with former players talking about abuse under Urban Meyer. This may get much worse...
https://twitter.com/Project_Veritas
In the ethnostate there will be no project veritas.Quote:
Originally Posted by devidee
Did I do that right?
The fact his is on administrative leave means its a 90% chance he is gone. I personally think they are negotiating an exit strategy. I know some Bull Gators from UF. While they loved the Tebow Era, they would have gladly traded it in if it meant Urban had not come there. Urban created such a toxic culture, it was beyond belief. Basically Urban had the Jimmy Johnson philosophy from the Hurricanes and the Cowboys: Not all players are equal, you violate the rules and you are a 5th round pick you get cut. You violate the rules and you are Michael Irvin you run some laps. UF has been adrift for nearly 10 years now, they just cannot shake the stigma from Urban.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCR
By all accounts at UF, Urban morphed into believing in strict self policing from players. In other words players handled discipline. You know what happens then. Urban would have been revered in the 1980s and 1990s when it was a win at all costs mentality. He got a pass at UF, largely because Tebow gave him cover. He has nowhere to hide now. He missed the memo, he should have learned from Art Briles, and word on the street he could not fire the coach because he had too much on Urban, so Urban tried to get him a job at another school.
If there was ever a coach than belongs in the NFL its Urban Meyer.
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Originally Posted by SheesfacedIn the ethnostate there will be no project veritas.Quote:
Originally Posted by devidee
Did I do that right?
(((obviously)))
Fucking Mossad.
Haven't listened to this yet, but should be interesting. Deitsch is usually really good with stories and interviews like this.
Sports Media with Richard Deitsch: Brett McMurphy
MP3 file: https://rss.art19.com/episodes/75b3c0cb-009a-4b60-9d86-0e12898ec875.mp3
I am not even sure what all this outrage is even about. Is it an executive's job to "investigate" the private life of people that work for them to see if there is any ongoing domestic abuse. Even if they had heard rumors, or even direct testimony, there may be domestic abuse, is it an executive's job to investigate and act on such rumors themselves, especially if they are aware the police are already involved in the situation?
I mean I get why the shit that Briles and Pitino did (involving students) was wrong. But I am not seeing what all the outrage is about for an adult employee. I think most of us actually would't want our bosses nosing around in our personal lives, and would feel that was a clear violation of our privacy.
Maybe Meyer believes that as long as they don't bring their issues to the workplace, what goes on in his employees personal lives is none of his business. I don't think that is an unreasonable position. That is the position I would want my boss to take with my personal life.
Private companies vs public institutions is the short answer to your questions. Meyer may have been legally required to report.Quote:
Originally Posted by verminaard
On March 27, Urban Meyer signed a two-year contract extension that increased his salary by $1.2 million to $7.6 million per year.
Included in that contract addendum was a little-noted clause specifying his responsibilities regarding possible Title IX violations. Whether Meyer was in breach of those responsibilities will be a key factor in whether he coaches at Ohio State again.
The section in his amended contract states that Meyer must report to Title IX coordinator (Kellie Brennan) or deputy Title IX coordinator for athletics (Janine Oman) of "any known violations of Ohio State's Sexual Misconduct Policy."
That would include "sexual harassment, sexual assault, sexual exploitation, intimate violence and stalking" involving any student, faculty or staff or that is in connection with a university sponsored activity or event." According to the contract, a "known violation" means one that the coach is aware of or has "reasonable cause to believe is taking place or may have taken place."
Fair enough. I have a feeling that invoking Title IX to discipline Meyer for not disclosing rumors of domestic abuse from one of his employees is a pretty big overstep, but my understanding of Title IX is that it is a horrible worded, horrible executed absolute disaster of a policy to begin with, so this might just be par for the course. From what I understand colleges that use Title IX to discipline/suspend/expel students are getting successfully sued left and right in massive numbers because their application of the provisions are so unethical and unlawful.Quote:
Originally Posted by jsearles22Private companies vs public institutions is the short answer to your questions. Meyer may have been legally required to report.Quote:
Originally Posted by verminaard
On March 27, Urban Meyer signed a two-year contract extension that increased his salary by $1.2 million to $7.6 million per year.
Included in that contract addendum was a little-noted clause specifying his responsibilities regarding possible Title IX violations. Whether Meyer was in breach of those responsibilities will be a key factor in whether he coaches at Ohio State again.
The section in his amended contract states that Meyer must report to Title IX coordinator (Kellie Brennan) or deputy Title IX coordinator for athletics (Janine Oman) of "any known violations of Ohio State's Sexual Misconduct Policy."
That would include "sexual harassment, sexual assault, sexual exploitation, intimate violence and stalking" involving any student, faculty or staff or that is in connection with a university sponsored activity or event." According to the contract, a "known violation" means one that the coach is aware of or has "reasonable cause to believe is taking place or may have taken place."
Three game suspension
http://www.espn.com/college-football...-ad-gene-smith
Suck it joos.