Killed himself at age 61 in a hotel room.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/08/us/an...bit/index.html
This is the second well known US person to kill themselves recently. Fashion designer Kate Spade hung herself last week.
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Killed himself at age 61 in a hotel room.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/08/us/an...bit/index.html
This is the second well known US person to kill themselves recently. Fashion designer Kate Spade hung herself last week.
Jooicide.
Fit's the category of shocking. Not saying he used a toaster in the tub but anyway.
If Anthony Bourdains life is so miserable that he had to kill himself, there really isnt much hope for the rest of us.
Pretty amazing he could perform at such a high level with all these apparent demons.
He was a Trump hater.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
It probably didnt help, having a girlfriend who was speaking out publicly, about being sexually assaulted by Harvey Weinstein.
shit really shakes me.... All i want is a 120 pound spinner and my own private beach. I'll pick berries for her..... Avicii, Kate Spade ,and now this. All very wealthy... Last pictures of Avicii was him on a yatch in Oman a day before he was found with a broken wine bottle in his hand....This shits for real... Pm me before you cut your wrists... ill buy you a hooker and some MDMA. For real.... Or we can smoke a bowl on the beach in Bali.... Fuck... i cant imagine the pain.... Shit makes me sad
I don’t agree with that first sentence at all. Our culture more or less promotes this sentiment but it’s simply a facade.( probably not the right word) Fame, money etc. have little to do with happiness.Quote:
Originally Posted by igotnotoe
. my thought is that Kate Spade was very upsetting because she reminds people of the preppy put together mom you always wanted/had. Avicci, the cool rock star. Bourdain, cool rock star chef, etc. Keep in mind the studies around suicide clusters, https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...me-in-clusters . These high profile pretty mainstream and cool people committing suicide feeds into the cluster affect. ugh. as you say, there is always a bowl in Bali or something better if things are bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by incognito81
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Originally Posted by limitlesI don’t agree with that first sentence at all. Our culture more or less promotes this sentiment but it’s simply a facade.( probably not the right word) Fame, money etc. have little to do with happiness.Quote:
Originally Posted by igotnotoe
Of course Fame and Money have little to do with happiness. Some of the most miserable people we know are rich (lotto winnings are a good example). But I have also never seen someone depressed function anywhere near the level of Anthony Bourdain. He seemed to have a circle of amazing friends, did speaking tours, traveled nearly year round and had great conversations with people over food. 99.99 percent of severely depressed people couldn't physically do one of these thing let alone all of them. Also, in recent years he seemed to be embracing a more healthy lifestyle and told many people this was the best he has ever felt. He did masterful job of covering it up if he had been dealing with long term severe depression.
Or maybe he recently had an opiate relapse ... I feel as if it had to be some traumatic recent event.
Well said, @IGotNoToe. What you lack in toes - you have in insight.Quote:
Originally Posted by igotnotoeQuote:
Originally Posted by limitles
Of course Fame and Money have little to do with happiness. Some of the most miserable people we know are rich (lotto winnings are a good example). But I have also never seen someone depressed function anywhere near the level of Anthony Bourdain. He seemed to have a circle of amazing friends, did speaking tours, traveled nearly year round and had great conversations with people over food. 99.99 percent of severely depressed people couldn't physically do one of these thing let alone all of them. Also, in recent years he seemed to be embracing a more healthy lifestyle and told many people this was the best he has ever felt. He did masterful job of covering it up if he had been dealing with long term severe depression.
Or maybe he recently had an opiate relapse ... I feel as if it had to be some traumatic recent event.
I agree that "something" must have happened. He "seemed" to really have it together - he exuded happiness. Or, he had become a master of deceit - having fooled his followers.
Sanlmar is going to be devastated.
No, not much insight I'm afraid. One assumes depression was the reason for suicide but it's not the only reason people kill themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by igotnotoeQuote:
Originally Posted by limitles
Of course Fame and Money have little to do with happiness. Some of the most miserable people we know are rich (lotto winnings are a good example). But I have also never seen someone depressed function anywhere near the level of Anthony Bourdain. He seemed to have a circle of amazing friends, did speaking tours, traveled nearly year round and had great conversations with people over food. 99.99 percent of severely depressed people couldn't physically do one of these thing let alone all of them. Also, in recent years he seemed to be embracing a more healthy lifestyle and told many people this was the best he has ever felt. He did masterful job of covering it up if he had been dealing with long term severe depression.
Or maybe he recently had an opiate relapse ... I feel as if it had to be some traumatic recent event.
And if it was depression it doesn't mean anything to your life or mine. Stress can cause depression and what causes stress?
The false impression that we have to have this or that or with so much in the bank or that we have so much on our "plate" that we can't cope.
third post already today, I'm out
Unconfirmed star wacker attack.
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Originally Posted by limitlesNo, not much insight I'm afraid. One assumes depression was the reason for suicide but it's not the only reason people kill themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by igotnotoe
And if it was depression it doesn't mean anything to your life or mine. Stress can cause depression and what causes stress?
The false impression that we have to have this or that or with so much in the bank or that we have so much on our "plate" that we can't cope.
third post already today, I'm out
Of course we are assuming depression as it the number one reason for suicide . For all we know he could have dropped acid and hung himself because he had a bad trip.
sad story
I do wonder what the catalyst was behind this one. Did he relapse on heroin and was so ashamed of himself he couldn't live anymore. Family issues, drunk, it boggles the mind somewhat. To be traveling the world being paid top dollar, acclaimed chef, moneys not a problem it makes little sense. Something tells me the details of this one will end up being shocking or quite confusing.
Any note left behind???
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Originally Posted by garrett
maybe Hoser can shed some light on this one
I feel there is a couple things going on with depression epidemic.
1. Depression is a large part genetic. Some people are wired to be depressed no matter how "great" their lives are. Most of us are never going to get clinically depressed no matter how bad things get.
2. Remember, human beings are animals, and we are hardwired to live very different lives than we do. Our psychology at the species level is suited for our "natural" lives, which is basically walking around all day looking for food trying not to get killed and eaten by other people or big predators. Our current modern lifestyles are nothing like this. It is a little psychological jarring for all of us, and some people can handle this better than others due to genetic and environmental factors.
oh and....
:laterfag
obv
anthony bourdain was GOD
/thread
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Originally Posted by WillieMcFML
Indeed. Appeared to have the rare enviable life and niche. Truly shocked at this one. Half expecting to hear about a pancreatic cancer diagnosis in the next few days or something.
id bet basically anything that he did this to escape a very particular set of neurological issues that were coming his way.
aka pulling a robin williams.
they both did a _lot_ of drugs in their youth and people arent talking about the connection between like LBD and that.. yet... but ive seen a lot of evidence of that connection in the wild. its not a disease you want to stick around for necessarily.
Hearing it was over a girl.
Hella beta move, imo.
Once an H user always an H user. It never stops. Ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by TydeQuote:
Originally Posted by garrett
maybe Hoser can shed some light on this one
This....or as Garrett said maybe he got into opiates heavy again and actually just accidentally OD'd.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCRQuote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFML
Indeed. Appeared to have the rare enviable life and niche. Truly shocked at this one. Half expecting to hear about a pancreatic cancer diagnosis in the next few days or something.
Gratitude is an emotion that can help quench the most hope-starved mind, but it may take halucinogen-assisted therapy to cultivate it.Quote:
Originally Posted by igotnotoe
MY ADVENTURES WITH THE TRIP DOCTORS
THE RESEARCHERS AND RENEGADES BRINGING PSYCHEDELIC DRUGS INTO THE MENTAL HEALTH MAINSTREAM. By Michael Pollan
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-medicine.html
Is this the new way left-wing famous people kill themselves? Death by hanging?Quote:
Award-winning chef, writer and television personality Anthony Bourdain has died in an apparent suicide. He was 61.
Bourdain was found dead on Friday morning in his room at a luxury hotel in the tiny village of Kaysersberg in the Alsace region of northeast France. He appeared to have hung himself.
His TV show on CNN "Parts Unknown" was a shell of his old show on the Travel Channel.
I liked his old TV show on the Travel Channel "Anthony Bourdain: No Reservations".
Did this have anything do with his girlfriend getting repeatedly violated by Harvey Weinstein?
To be honest, Anthony Bourdain looked old more than 13 years ago.
R.I.P.
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April 2018
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March 2005
It probably didnt help, having a girlfriend who was speaking out publicly, about being sexually assaulted by Harvey Weinstein.
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El Gallo: Ugh
Not sure why the "ugh". If my GF had that done to her, I'd feel terrible. I'd possibly be thinking about it often, and also every time Weinsteins name was brought up. Come on, G. No bashing the Ginger on Fridays.
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Originally Posted by DRK Star
We’re friends again but you are still the worst...
This wouldn’t be surprising either. I mean, he was always kind of a cynical guy. The truth is when you do heavy drugs for years, you simply change your brain, and you can have the greatest life in the world, but it still isn’t fun. I see this a lot with people I’ve known. I dealt with the adjustment when I quit doing a lot of coke. There’s a period of time where life loses its flavor. I got out young enough where my brain readjusted, thankfully. It’s possible despite all the appearances, shit wasn’t fun anymore for him. Oh well, he had a great run.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
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Originally Posted by BCRThis wouldn’t be surprising either. I mean, he was always kind of a cynical guy. The truth is when you do heavy drugs for years, you simply change your brain, and you can have the greatest life in the world, but it still isn’t fun. I see this a lot with people I’ve known. I dealt with the adjustment when I quit doing a lot of coke. There’s a period of time where life loses its flavor. I got out young enough where my brain readjusted, thankfully. It’s possible despite all the appearances, shit wasn’t fun anymore for him. Oh well, he had a great run.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
above and beyond the described, there are issues like LBD and other forms of dementia that seem to be running rampant through the generation that was doing a _lot_ of coke in the late 70s/early 80s.
make of that what you will.
Libtards are very weak minded ... no surprise
#cowardsgonnacoward
A super Trump hater, so just like Trump said we would get sick of the winning ... many many lulsQuote:
Originally Posted by DraymondHe was a Trump hater.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
I don't usually think suicide is sad. Especially a 61 year old's suicide who lived a better life than any of us will ever imagine (or maybe not?). But this was the first celeb death that shocked me in a long time for some reason. I read his book which was very good, and watched most of his tv shows, probably. He seemed like a cool as fuck dude, kinda guy I'd love to drink with. I didn't always agree with his politics, but politics are for faggots anyway. RIP
Death comes in threes. Maybe next, it will be one of the Full Tilt Pros, so overcome with guilt, they could not live with the shame anymore. Odds of happening: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000 to 1.
I wonder if eating/drinking all that weird shit over the years (who knows what chems are in the "parts unknown" that he's shown all to happy to chow down) along with or without the drug use could lead to a different brain makeup than most people have. I mean the typical American diet ain't exactly healthy, but this guys has eaten some weird stuff:
such as: "Testicles Of All Kinds" In a Moroccan dessert, it was roasted sheep's testicles. On Piers Morgan live, it was turkey testicles. Bourdain has never met a ball (the kind that are on a plate, that is) he wouldn't brave.
ALSO:
"Cobra Heart" In parts of Vietnam, cobra heart is sliced out of a live snake and eaten while still beating. Bourdain compared the experience to eating a “very athletic, aggressive oyster”.
Enough to make me not brave going off the typical North American palate too much...
”I feel kind of like a freak and I feel very isolated. I communicate for a living but I'm terrible at communicating with people I care about."Quote:
Originally Posted by Kilgore Trout
- Anthony Bourdain
The man was a poet. He was endlessly speaking in metaphors and similes when talking about food or the restaurant industry.
His stock and trade was the comparison of one thing with another thing of a different kind, using them to make a description more emphatic or vivid. There is a link in Druff’s CNN article to an essay Bourdain wrote in 1999 which I had not read before. There he is likening kitchens and criminal culture. Beautiful. Breathtaking.
Don’€™t Eat Before Reading This
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1...e-reading-this
To make these comparisons and write this way he had to be removed. He had to speak from a distance. He saw the absurdity, irony and randomness of life. He was isolated. He saw himself as different. It was this gift that allowed his art.
I worked as a waiter as a kid. The restaurant was somewhat upscale. I did some light table side service. I’d finish the steak au poivre in front of the guests. Flaming drinks. I’d put on an act that I thought would suit my read of the customer. I was fascinated by the kitchen and the people. It was a gang and they knew I wasn’t one of their kind but they allowed me into their periphery and degeneracy.
The only reason I got that job with zero experience was the restaurant manager was gay and I was later told he had a crush on me. I played him too I suppose. I wasn’t like anyone in the building it turns out. This fellow drove a ‘71 Cadillac Eldorado convertible which tells you all you need to know.
Bourdain spoke of being terrible communicating with anyone I care about. Oh dear god, this is me.
I am in the health and fitness industry. Someone pulled me aside yesterday. They told me that members and employees have spotted me exiting a liquor store during the day. I go on jags of smoking. Never had a bad cigarette. People would like to think I am a closet alcoholic I presume. I am just buying a pack of fags. Health & fitness... just putting on an act like the kid waiter. I am not one of them, not really. Not sure how I’m going to spin out of this. Being guarded and isolated needs to be conducted with greater care.
Does being isolated and viewing life from a distance lead to depression? Bourdain lost his edge. Maybe that came with age. Edge takes energy and enthusiasm. Shame.
I gotta take this opportunity to plug Bourdain’s Jeremiah Tower: The Last Magnificent. Story of an isolated artist told by an isolated artist. It WAS magnificent.
Finally, I am touched Kilgore that you thought to include me here. You too possess the same sensibility as Bourdain in your own way. The Vonnegut and your own irony and artistry found here. I am flattered to be mentioned.
I am unaffected by almost all celebrity deaths but this one hits me hard.
Ugh, this really bothers me.
I really enjoyed watching his shows...probably seen most of them twice. I guess it was kind of my way of traveling without leaving the room.
I could just sense there was "something" there while watching him... some deep inner battles or whatever you want to call it were just waiting to explode.
RIP
the greatest enemy of genius is success.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
not saying that was a factor here, but just saying.
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Originally Posted by Sanlmar”I feel kind of like a freak and I feel very isolated. I communicate for a living but I'm terrible at communicating with people I care about."Quote:
Originally Posted by Kilgore Trout
- Anthony Bourdain
The man was a poet. He was endlessly speaking in metaphors and similes when talking about food or the restaurant industry.
His stock and trade was the comparison of one thing with another thing of a different kind, using them to make a description more emphatic or vivid. There is a link in Druff’s CNN article to an essay Bourdain wrote in 1999 which I had not read before. There he is likening kitchens and criminal culture. Beautiful. Breathtaking.
Don’€™t Eat Before Reading This
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1...e-reading-this
To make these comparisons and write this way he had to be removed. He had to speak from a distance. He saw the absurdity, irony and randomness of life. He was isolated. He saw himself as different. It was this gift that allowed his art.
I worked as a waiter as a kid. The restaurant was somewhat upscale. I did some light table side service. I’d finish the steak au poivre in front of the guests. Flaming drinks. I’d put on an act that I thought would suit my read of the customer. I was fascinated by the kitchen and the people. It was a gang and they knew I wasn’t one of their kind but they allowed me into their periphery and degeneracy.
The only reason I got that job with zero experience was the restaurant manager was gay and I was later told he had a crush on me. I played him too I suppose. I wasn’t like anyone in the building it turns out. This fellow drove a ‘71 Cadillac Eldorado convertible which tells you all you need to know.
Bourdain spoke of being terrible communicating with anyone I care about. Oh dear god, this is me.
I am in the health and fitness industry. Someone pulled me aside yesterday. They told me that members and employees have spotted me exiting a liquor store during the day. I go on jags of smoking. Never had a bad cigarette. People would like to think I am a closet alcoholic I presume. I am just buying a pack of fags. Health & fitness... just putting on an act like the kid waiter. I am not one of them, not really. Not sure how I’m going to spin out of this. Being guarded and isolated needs to be conducted with greater care.
Does being isolated and viewing life from a distance lead to depression? Bourdain lost his edge. Maybe that came with age. Edge takes energy and enthusiasm. Shame.
I gotta take this opportunity to plug Bourdain’s Jeremiah Tower: The Last Magnificent. Story of an isolated artist told by an isolated artist. It WAS magnificent.
Finally, I am touched Kilgore that you thought to include me here. You too possess the same sensibility as Bourdain in your own way. The Vonnegut and your own irony and artistry found here. I am flattered to be mentioned.
I am unaffected by almost all celebrity deaths but this one hits me hard.
yeah im not feeling any of this shit wtf.