Is ACR Solvent?

What are the odds that this shit bag poker site could actually pay out every balance owed if that day came?

Currently you can't even launch their software let alone play.

The site has been unplayable for the last week which they've been blaming on DDoS attacks which most agree is bullshit.

The Sunday Million has a 250k overlay every week along with the majority of their other guaranteed MTTs.

People on real grinders facebook and 2p2 selling balances at 50%.

I won't be selling mine but I'm cashing off as soon as I can get back into my account.

Idk I am starting to wonder now too, they def are running a shady op. Why not just slash the guarantees tho, they could easily operate profitably ...

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Originally Posted by sah_24

Idk I am starting to wonder now too, they def are running a shady op. Why not just slash the guarantees tho, they could easily operate profitably ...

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Bro you tilted @wsop so hard they are attacking ACR multiple times daily now.

It is getting quite suspicious right now.

Are there any reports of successful cashouts since this started?

Someone on RealGrinders claims his was rejected.

What could possibly be the justification for rejecting cashout requests, unless either:

1) They are broke
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2) They are trying to "force" their users to wait this out, and don't want people jumping ship

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

It is getting quite suspicious right now.

Are there any reports of successful cashouts since this started?

Someone on RealGrinders claims his was rejected.

What could possibly be the justification for rejecting cashout requests, unless either:

1) They are broke
-or-
2) They are trying to "force" their users to wait this out, and don't want people jumping ship

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I've heard some people say they've received cashouts and others say they haven't been able to put one through because of all the attacks.

For anyone trying to cashout make sure you attempt to do so when the site appears to be working and not when it's in the middle of a DDos attack which is usally going to be really late at night or early afternoon.

These attacks started around last week Wednesday and everyday their have been some issues but funny enough Sunday they cancelled the Million Dollar Guarantee tournament that overlays a few hundred grand each week probably because it might overlay $400k or so with all of these attacks BUT they let every other tourney run and for the most part they went okay from what I've heard with only a few small hiccups.

The silence by this network not caring about doing damage control after all of ChicagoJoey's videos that lead to them being booted off 2+2 because they refused to answer questions is very scary.

Some people have this belief because the network is associated with BetCris (a huge wealthy sports book) that this is why they are willing to give away so much trying to grow but gambling companies are very greedy wanting to take people for every dollar they can. This isn't just gambling sites it's business 101. A company can be worth a billion dollars but has a section or other business that is costing them money they won't let it go on forever so I don't get how ACR is continuing to have huge overlays along with spending in TV advertising (I saw an ad during the NFL Draft).

Something has felt shady with them for years and their security has always been a shit show that cost me thousands from colluders they refused to look into and disconnection problems starting around a month or two before the very first million dollar guaranteed tournament they ran happened, which they waited like 6 hours into before cancelling and refunding every person because of these "DDos attacks".

Other poker/gambling sites have had their share of DDos attacks. Not too long ago Bet Online was attacked for a few weeks but ACR(WPN) has had it the worst for the past few years and handles the issue like a bunch of incompetent goons.

If you call their support phone number you will hear an on hold message from CEO Phil Nagy that they will be with you soon but are busy talking to other customers "cause we rock". I'm sure it's his attempt at humor but it's very immature to have that as a business greeting.

They didnt even try to adress the issues..

The way phill "talked" it was almost like a dog whistle telling everyone we are the grimmiest site and u could colude and use bots and bum hunt and il provide a wild wild west of enviroments as long as all u crooks pay rake...

To this day i cant understand why they just didnt just spend a couple of 100k reinventing themselves and fixing mucked cards ect..Its almost like an abandoned site (ownership/managment wise)..

Acr is finished.

I hope all the decent players get there money..

I hope all the bum hunting/seat scripting/hud useing/multi tabling/nit motherfuckers lose theres..

Lollollolhahahahalololololhahalibtards......

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Originally Posted by thesparten

They didnt even try to adress the issues..

The way phill "talked" it was almost like a dog whistle telling everyone we are the grimmiest site and u could colude and use bots and bum hunt and il provide a wild wild west of enviroments as long as all u crooks pay rake...

To this day i cant understand why they just didnt just spend a couple of 100k reinventing themselves and fixing mucked cards ect..Its almost like an abandoned site (ownership/managment wise)..

Acr is finished.

I hope all the decent players get there money..

I hope all the bum hunting/seat scripting/hud useing/multi tabling/nit motherfuckers lose theres..

Lollollolhahahahalololololhahalibtards......

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You might be one of the biggest fish in history of online poker ...

But ya it's not looking good for WPN. Down again today with same BS posted on twitter. This is starting to look like it might be GG

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Originally Posted by sah_24

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Originally Posted by thesparten

They didnt even try to adress the issues..

The way phill "talked" it was almost like a dog whistle telling everyone we are the grimmiest site and u could colude and use bots and bum hunt and il provide a wild wild west of enviroments as long as all u crooks pay rake...

To this day i cant understand why they just didnt just spend a couple of 100k reinventing themselves and fixing mucked cards ect..Its almost like an abandoned site (ownership/managment wise)..

Acr is finished.

I hope all the decent players get there money..

I hope all the bum hunting/seat scripting/hud useing/multi tabling/nit motherfuckers lose theres..

Lollollolhahahahalololololhahalibtards......

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You might be one of the biggest fish in history of online poker ...

But ya it's not looking good for WPN. Down again today with same BS posted on twitter. This is starting to look like it might be GG

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And now with ignition operating in the states that a.c.r had basic monopolies in, like new york..

And throw in global,, i only see there player base dwindling significantly on a daily basis...

People were reportedly able to login earlier this afternoon but its back to where you can't even launch their software.

I find it interesting that this tweet about scheduled maintenance was their last tweet before all of the supposed DDos attacks started happening.

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Meanwhile they're still promoting their WSOP Main Event satellites.

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I was able to get in 3 hours from 4-7PM ET...

requested a check yesterday so ill see if I get my fedex notice tomorrow...

Ya site opens but freezes and can't access anything once it opens ... luls so FAIL

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Originally Posted by GambleBotsChafedPenis

I was able to get in 3 hours from 4-7PM ET...

requested a check yesterday so ill see if I get my fedex notice tomorrow...

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fedex notice received and things seem to be working today, so feeling a little better about shit...

I tried cashing out the rest of my small balance on WPN and ... Michael B. at 11:47, May 4:
We were experiencing DDOS attacks, yesterday. Due to that situation your payout request was cancelled.

Seems they are def busto ... gg

Ship the scamavatar to ACR:

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They have not paid affiliates for March and these payments usually come in the first 2 weeks of April

So this leads me to believe something more than DDOS is going on

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Originally Posted by chinamaniac

They have not paid affiliates for March and these payments usually come in the first 2 weeks of April

So this leads me to believe something more than DDOS is going on

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Ya it seems pretty obv they are busto at this point. Just matter of time now, like Lock ... luls

Ok well I finally got my bitcoin after 4+ days, so they appear to still be paying out. They have changed the limits tho, on the amount of bitcoin you can get in 1 cashout. Luckily I haven't ever won much there so still got my balance just fine

Just noticed the 2p2 ACR support subforum was shut down in March

The last post made by WinningTD makes me think there was some drama:

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Originally Posted by Winning_TD View Post
Ok FYI, i will still be looking at my private messages and willing to help people that need me.

I will clear up slightly the issue with 2+2 but i cant go into full details. Myself and Bobo were in constant contact with each other and it wasnt closed due to not responding it is a little deeper than that. Myself and bobo have a pretty good relationship i would say so there is no hard feelings on both ends.

It is a shame that everything will now be forced onto one thread but it is what it is.

I wanted to add regarding the captcha.. This is something we have had in place for well over a year now and i openly said that in the other threads.

Anyway.. As i said i am still here to help so PM is def the best way if you have some issues.

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https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=10469


Edit:

Mason posted on front page of 2p2 the following (this is from March):

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Two Plus Two Interactive LLC is a corporation which is required to make a profit. If this was not the case this website would cease to exist and much of the stuff that goes on here would no longer be available to those of you who come to this website. In addition, we have kept www.twoplustwo.com non-subscription based and have relied on our advertisers to carry the load. However, we also are concerned with the well-being of poker and because of that have not allowed some potential advertisers to run their ads here even though they would have gladly paid our rates.

And this brings us to Winning Poker Network which runs America’s Cardroom. I don’t have this information immediately available, but I believe they’ve been with us as an advertiser for about fifteen years. In addition, they have become the home for many of our participants to play poker and as far as I know, there has never been a problem with things like timely cash outs and poor customer service. Nonetheless, according to many posters on our site, some problems have developed on Winning Poker Network and we in Two Plus Two management agree that they need to be addressed.

So, to this end, on Saturday February 24, we sent their CEO Phil Nagy an email letter where we addressed four issues: late tournament registration (which we now understand has been addressed), bots, possible super users, and other possible collusion. We also made some suggestions as to how some of these issues could be addressed.

As of the time of this writing, March 1, 2018, we have not heard back from them and have decided to take the following action. Two Plus Two Interactive LLC will not accept any more advertising from Winning Poker Network and their sub-forum will be closed. Of course, this can all change if we do get a positive response from Winning Poker Network and they still want to advertise with us.

Again, I want to state that over the years, we’ve had a great relationship with Winning Poker Network and are grateful for the support that they have always given us. Hopefully, solutions to all the issues will soon be made available and the reason for this Publisher’s Note will be no more.

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https://www.twoplustwo.com/magazine/issue159/

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Originally Posted by sah_24

Ok well I finally got my bitcoin after 4+ days, so they appear to still be paying out. They have changed the limits tho, on the amount of bitcoin you can get in 1 cashout. Luckily I haven't ever won much there so still got my balance just fine

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yep, good thing you suck at poker and barely win any money and don't have to worry about getting money stolen from the site.

You are a retard

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Originally Posted by sah_24

Ok well I finally got my bitcoin after 4+ days, so they appear to still be paying out. They have changed the limits tho, on the amount of bitcoin you can get in 1 cashout. Luckily I haven't ever won much there so still got my balance just fine

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yep, good thing you suck at poker and barely win any money and don't have to worry about getting money stolen from the site.

You are a retard

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Stay mad faggot, thankfully I still have Bovada and win plenty more than you make ...

wanna bet on that? you right wing white trash piece of shit

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Originally Posted by big dick

wanna bet on that? you right wing white trash piece of shit

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Sure you libtard downie ...

Only seems logically we need to get Big Dick and Sah to Vegas for the WSOP and get them over to the UFC Gym for a cage match to resolve this liberal asswipe vs Trumpite grudge match once and for all..

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Originally Posted by chinamaniac

They have not paid affiliates for March and these payments usually come in the first 2 weeks of April

So this leads me to believe something more than DDOS is going on

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Ya it seems pretty obv they are busto at this point. Just matter of time now, like Lock ... luls

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Every affiliate I know has been paid now

yeah think things are back to normal now...everything client wise has been good this week, no shutdowns...

I mentioned I requested a check earlier in the thread, got it within 24 hours...also had a couple BTC cashouts this week...first went through in like 36 hours and the second went through in around 24...

so yeah it was looking like real fucking shit about a week ago, but even when it seems like ACR is gonna implode on itself they end up coming through...

figured id post another cashout story here...just withdrew via BTC a decent amount and it just hit my wallet in 8 hours...

not posting this as an all clear, deposit every dollar you have on ACR, but their cashouts still seem to be processing rather quickly even after all the bullshit...

think these DDOS attacks are just a reminder that it's fine to play on ACR, but know that whatever money you have on the site is at risk at any time...so don't treat the site as a bank...with BTC and a shitton of other alts available for withdrawal (up to 5 per week) there is no reason to keep anything other than your playable bankroll on the site...

is ACR the best run site on the planet? fuck no...however I don't think that they're out to outright scam people out of their money...

Acr is sooo dirty and Soo many underhanded things going on that there not even capable of making micro adjustment so that 2+2 can take there money and have the smallest amount of plausable deniability...lol

What a joke..