Following article was just released.
-PokerCentral acquires the TV/digital rights to the WSOP
-No more November 9
-Live coverage will start on Day 1A of the ME on a 30 minute delay
https://www.pokercentral.com/article...n-relationship
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Following article was just released.
-PokerCentral acquires the TV/digital rights to the WSOP
-No more November 9
-Live coverage will start on Day 1A of the ME on a 30 minute delay
https://www.pokercentral.com/article...n-relationship
now we're fucking talking.
they're taking a cue from EPT broadcasts. people say they aren't fun to watch, but it all depends. get good anouncers (like EPT) and it becomes fun.
november 9 was so fucking played out anyway. after last year, they had to do something.
curious, but will espn still be chopping up the footage for it's own network?
Poker Central must have found more suckers to invest in that money pit.
I thought it was going to die completely after announcing the were done with being a broadcast network.
I guess there really is a venture capital sucker born every minute. I wonder how much they forked over to WSOP for this.
Oh, and props to no November 9. Always hated the whole idea for many reasons.
It should of been a poll...who goes donkdown first Bitcoin or the November 9?
Yes yes yes!!!!!!!!!! Finally someone figured out what every poker player already knew. We want to watch it all and not wait till November. Thank you Poker Central.
I'm glad this is happening because then the intent of the grind comes to fruition.. You never know how well some of these guys would've done having to keep playing an additional couple days.. One cant discount the break in allowing folks being able to rest and recharge but also obvious have months to study and watch the play of their opponents (think of it as data mining literally). I wasn't crazy about the original idea to begin with because every other major tournament that went a week never did this.. My own thought was this was some marketing guys idea to bring more attention to the WSOP and get an extra extended weekend of coverage and hope it would bring casual and serious poker fans into town to hopefully degen in the pits and fill some hotel rooms in an off peak timeframe for Vegas..
I wonder if ESPN is going to keep broadcasting the WSOP with all their cutbacks on all sports not football or basketball? I don't care enough about televised poker that it is appointment viewing or DVR material, but when I am scrolling through channels WSOP telecasts are one of those things where I will often pick up where it is and keep watching.
I imagine compared to real sports poker is super cheap to produce so I am guessing the ratings don't need to be too high to pull a profit with poker.
By 2020, there will be no more televised WSOP poker.
Instead ESPN will air the World Championship of Darts.
Legalized online poker is a complete failure.
The TV ratings for poker are a joke.
The public just doesn't give a shit about poker anymore.
:facepalm4
It's nice to see them getting rid of the November 9 and having two days in between is really all a player needs to get patches from various sponsors.
The choice to broadcast Day 1 coverage on TV is silly and will make for bad television. Nobody wants to see 300BB tournament poker.
I'm sure the people in charge of the coverage will just make the feature table the one with Negreanu, Hellmuth, or a former main event winner.
Nice, but what happened to Day 3?
I actually disagree. I like the fact that the main event, the biggest tournament of the year, has every level chronicled from beginning to end.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker
Additionally, as boring as 300BB poker is to watch the "moments of terror" hands are usually "moments of LOL" as there are more bad players in the early levels. Always comical to see the mistakes made. Also, this is when the actual people with personality play, as by usually when the field starts to dwindle down, we start seeing more and more of what makes poker boring today: good regs who take too long to act and don't say a word.
For those wondering if Main Event will also have the "edited" shows : they will (from Ty Stewart)
Quote:
But we also have a commitment to produce 16 edited shows beyond the "mini-series" stunt which will air around 100 times around the year on ESPN and ESPN2. So we're not walking away from the gold standard episodes, we're just layering on a material increase in live coverage for the Main Event.
Your points are all valid on this. For dedicated viewers or advanced players we like to see these things but I question if the noob watcher will. The key is for them to be interested on their first impression of anything or they don't give it another chance. The state of poker today we want to get new people coming in hoping to grow the game and not cater to people who will always watch regardless. If we barely see anyone bust the new viewership could get bored.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShizzmoneyI actually disagree. I like the fact that the main event, the biggest tournament of the year, has every level chronicled from beginning to end.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker
Additionally, as boring as 300BB poker is to watch the "moments of terror" hands are usually "moments of LOL" as there are more bad players in the early levels. Always comical to see the mistakes made. Also, this is when the actual people with personality play, as by usually when the field starts to dwindle down, we start seeing more and more of what makes poker boring today: good regs who take too long to act and don't say a word.
A bit off topic but regarding poker television Mori Eskandani was on ChicagoJoey podcast a few days ago. He is an interesting and very humble guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emCGHs5T_AY
In my conversations with "noobs" and otherwise other casual players who watch the WSOP, the players they remember and talk about whenever the WSOP ME broadcast comes up, are usually the ones with the crazy antics that create polarizing opinions, like Kassouf, Eric Molina, Curtis Rystadt, etc. This is why Jamie Gold's run created so much buzz for the WSOP: yes, it happened during the boom era, but also his loose play, amazing run good, and the constant angle shooting was always a topic of conversation as supposed to the good players who more advanced fans want to see play just because the quality of the poker itself is why they tune in for, and not the circus show (which draws in the casual viewer).Quote:
Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker
I've also met Mori a few times (I was a good friend of an assistant key grip on his production team), he's a cool dude and understands the balance of personality, simplicity, and information in poker broadcasts. I miss the PAD format.
This news dropped today about Poker Central and how they are going to charge $10 a month for PokerGo service.
https://www.pokercentral.com/article...ervice-pokergo
I don't know what this means for the free channel on chromecast, roku,etc... but from the times I tried to watch it the channel was always super unstable to a point it was frustrating to watch for free but now it looks like they are charging for it.
I can't imagine many people forking over $ for this, unless they are either megafans of poker, or they know someone being shown on the stream.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker
Yet another dumb business model by Poker Central.
Good thing Cary Katz has so much money to burn.
It occurs to me I might be able to mute the left or right channel so that I wouldn't have to listen to that babbling idiot Joey. Unfortunately, I'm viewing on an iPad and can't play with sound like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeerAndPokerYour points are all valid on this. For dedicated viewers or advanced players we like to see these things but I question if the noob watcher will. The key is for them to be interested on their first impression of anything or they don't give it another chance. The state of poker today we want to get new people coming in hoping to grow the game and not cater to people who will always watch regardless. If we barely see anyone bust the new viewership could get bored.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shizzmoney
A bit off topic but regarding poker television Mori Eskandani was on ChicagoJoey podcast a few days ago. He is an interesting and very humble guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emCGHs5T_AY
Spare me some pain....
All I want to know is if Mori is going to do High Stakes Poker again in the future.
They intend to make high stakes poker cash games but not call in High Stakes Poker. He said this was in the works but couldn't announce it yet because the PokerGo official announcement and launch was a few days later.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
What this likely means is people who want to watch in close to real time (30 minute delay sort of thing) they will have to pay the $9.99 a month but this content will likely turn into edited TV programs to air on something like CBS or NBC Sports Network. Since Poker Central/PokerGo will be developing this content for real TV stations perhaps they make some money that way unless it becomes a Full Tilt type of thing where they buy up national NBC network infomercial space and take a loss on it (Poker After Dark aka one big Full Tilt infomercial).
PokerGO off to a great start:
As mentioned on radio, Firefox and Microsoft Edge block Flash, making the stream unwatchable on desktop and laptop computers using those browsers.
They have been broadcasting the $300k Super High Roller Bowl since yesterday, so people are upset about this. Also I'm seeing reports that the PokerGo app isn't in the Google Play store yet for Android.
:fail
Don't forget Dmitri Nobles. 2006 was the gold standard for televised WSOP. If they could recreate half of that they would have a winner. "I bagged the elephant" "Top Top". The disaster that is Eric Molina. It was perfect.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShizzmoneyIn my conversations with "noobs" and otherwise other casual players who watch the WSOP, the players they remember and talk about whenever the WSOP ME broadcast comes up, are usually the ones with the crazy antics that create polarizing opinions, like Kassouf, Eric Molina, Curtis Rystadt, etc. This is why Jamie Gold's run created so much buzz for the WSOP: yes, it happened during the boom era, but also his loose play, amazing run good, and the constant angle shooting was always a topic of conversation as supposed to the good players who more advanced fans want to see play just because the quality of the poker itself is why they tune in for, and not the circus show (which draws in the casual viewer).Quote:
Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker
I've also met Mori a few times (I was a good friend of an assistant key grip on his production team), he's a cool dude and understands the balance of personality, simplicity, and information in poker broadcasts. I miss the PAD format.
Chrome also blocks flash (well, every browser in 2017 does).Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
This can be changed by fiddling with some settings and giving the site full permissions, but you'd think if one was going to charge for a service they'd have the compatibility stuff figured out *before* launch. It's kinda of a big deal, especially when it comes to Android devices and stuff isn't one size fits all.
CRTV, LLC d/b/a Poker Central
http://www.pokercentral.com
http://www.superhighroller.com
3960 Howard Hughes Parkway Suite#500
Las Vegas, NV 89169
Over 1,000 different companies operate out of this suite.
They forward mail and answer the phone for you.
It is what we call a virtual office.
I think the guy who started this company takes the video footage home.
I'm sure he uses photoshop and any video editing software.
Why not run the company out of a fucking mail box?
Not sure who the investors are in this bullshit company but they will never make money from this business.
:fail
Anyone who claims PokerGo is a new business so people should be patient is being too naive when it's re-branded subscription version of the free streaming Poker Central channel that you could watch on various platforms such as chromecast, roku, and amazon fire which I don't think PokerGo is available yet on any of those players.
With the experience of the free channel platform their should be no excuses as to why PokerGo is having so many technical issues right now. It's also a joke they waited until 6 days before SHRB to launch when if they were much more prepared a lot of this could have been avoided.
All the promo codes I've seen are for $10 off an annual subscription which is lol when sites like netflix give new signups a free month and their is obviously a whole lot more content on netflix then pokergo.
I'd never give these clowns a year worth of subscription upfront because nobody knows where it will truly be in 6 months time but right now all the reports are that PokerGo is an unstable piece of shit that launched without much preparation.
An interaction platform like Twitch works because people tend to enjoy discussing things in real time with chat and they can't with this. A lot of those people would pay $10 a month too for that sort of thing.
I have heard that their have already been several streams pop up on various platforms airing SHRB illegally.
PokerGo schedule finally released.
The internet got very angry.
People are angry that there's no $50k Poker Players Championship, many missing $10k events (including the $10k limit holdem I'll be playing), and no $25k PLO.
Also, many are pissed that this was released AFTER the WSOP started, and many people already plunked down $10 or more for a subscription.
Only about 20% of all events are covered.
Here's the Twitter thread where everyone got pissed: https://twitter.com/PokerCentral/sta...19734819545089
I don't understand why there are so many "off" days here. For example, during the period of June 19-26, which encompasses 8 days, they are only broadcasting 3 final tables.
From June 11-15, a period of 5 days, they are only broadcasting 1 final table.
:fail
^^^ - They are going hard pushing the one year subscriptions because the people that do sign up a lot of them will only remain as customers through the WSOP and not come back until some huge live cash game happens or until next year's WSOP.
The business model is such a fail but what I am wondering is if they aren't covering the mixed game events because they see no future use with them? With rights to the programming PokerGo may be able to use it on low budget cable where mixed games containing no hole card cameras won't transition well.
Such a disappointment not every event's Final Table isnt televised or even on tape delay. The a big selling point for potential punters...most of whom amateur.....is that if they are fortunate to make the FT, they get to be on a stream to show their family and friends.
The WSOP when streaming was free, did this. Now they want me to pay for a product with less content? #fail
Also....the pokergo stream vids are going on youtube an hour after they air so you can just wait lol
Las Vegas billionaire sues conservative media outlet over $20M loanQuote:
Originally Posted by TheXFactor
https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/...over-20m-loan/
So that's how PokerGo makes money.Quote:
Cary Katz, a Las Vegas billionaire and one of the state’s largest right-wing political donors, has sued an arm of Conservative Review over a $20 million loan.
Katz filed the lawsuit April 20 in District Court against CRTV LLC.
According to the complaint, CRTV borrowed more than $20 million from Katz, an owner of the media company, during the past year and a half.
Katz is most widely known for playing in some of the world’s richest poker tournaments.
The suit claims that CRTV, through manager Elizabeth Wood, agreed in July to repay a principal sum of $10 million, along with 5 percent annual interest. It claims Wood executed a second promissory note in January with the same terms.
:lol2