Time to get on the TRUMP train

the letter was a draft and accidentally released because there is literally no one competent left in this administration.

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Originally Posted by sonatine

im sure its just a big misunderstanding but days after assassinating the 2nd most powerful man in iran, trump is blowing off intelligence briefings.

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Hasn’t he been doing this the entire presidency?

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the letter was a draft and accidentally released because there is literally no one competent left in this administration.

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The good thing is that Iraq is now stable once again.

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OMG TEHEHEHE ITS A REMOVE TRUMP SIGN AND ITS BY ONE OF TRUMPS PROPERTIES TEHEHEHEHE. OWNED YOUR ASS MAGATARDS TEHEHEHE


FUCKING IDIOT

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Originally Posted by sonatine

h/t to Reza Marashi

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Over the past few days, I've spoken extensively with career U.S. government officials as they've worked around the clock to try and mitigate the damage from Trump's ineptitude on Iran. With their permission, I'm sharing a small taste from our lengthy conversations. Enjoy.
"We have no functional national security decision-making process in place. We have no plan for what comes next. They are woefully unprepared for what's about to pop off, and they're too stupid to realize it. People here are freaking out, and rightfully so."
"We're still trying to dig out from underneath the last war of choice, and now they're trying to start a new one. I finally cracked open the bottle of scotch you gave me that I've been keeping stashed away in my desk drawer."
"I'm gonna call you later tonight to talk through this so I can go into meetings tomorrow armed with some sane talking points to insert into this clusterfuck."
"When did most of us find out about killing Soleimani? After it already happened. Since then, we've been trying to cobble together contingency planning on the fly, but these charlatans ignore most of it, and then Trump does more stupid shit that puts us back at square one."
"All Trump cares about is shitting on Obama's legacy, sucking up to donors, and distracting from impeachment. None of this is about American interests or security. He's surrounded by ideological lunatic sycophants like Pence and Pompeo. But they're far from the only ones."
"So many of Trump's top advisors on Iran are military vets who served multiple tours of duty in our wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere. They believe to their core that Iran is the reason why they lost those wars, and they're dead set on payback - no matter what it takes."
"They've been pushing to kill Soleimani for years, and they finally baited Trump into it. They think war with Iran is long overdue, so for them, this was a means to an end. When Iran responds, they'll tell Trump to hit the Iranians harder. You see where this could go."
"They know the Iraqis are gonna kick them out now, so they're gonna try to kill as many as possible on their way out. Iranians, Iraqis, whoever. Some of them are advising Trump to tell the Iraqi government to fuck off and dare them to make us leave. I shit you not. Insanity."
"When I used your points about Soleimani's murder being a catalyst for Iranians to rally around the flag, they said that was 'Obama apologist bullshit,' and the Soviet Union forced people against their will into public displays of support. So apparently Iran is a superpower now."
"Trump is threatening war crimes against Iran, and none of his top advisors have the courage to publicly oppose it. Instead, they act like cowards and go on background with journalists to express their opposition. They should all resign. They don't deserve to serve this country."
"We have friends that are getting deployed into war zones, but for what? Trump has deployed 14,000 troops over the past 6 months, and it didn't prevent the current crisis. At what point do we start asking whether deploying troops is part of the problem rather than the solution?"
"The scariest part is that they're just making shit up to justify their preferred course of action. When we point out inaccuracies or question logic, we're at best yelled at or at worst cut out of the process. Most of the political appointees are paranoid, unqualified, or both."
"Last year, if you would've asked me whether American institutions are durable enough to prevent a Trump-led war with Iran, I would've said absolutely. Today, I'm not so sure. For as bad as it looks to you all on the outside, it's even worse when you see it from the inside."
"One of Trump's top Iran advisors got suckered into a honey trap, had their laptop/iPhone stolen and hacked before they woke up, and the White House refused to take precautionary measures regarding their security clearance. Ladies and gents, I give you the Trump administration."
In conclusion: Yes, folks. It really is that bad. I am but a humble messenger of truth. The voice of the voiceless. That is all. You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming.

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None of this is surprising.

The part about everyone around Trump being easy to honeypot is the least surprising part.

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Originally Posted by devidee

Every country is pulling Trump’s strings, except (((one))).


LULZZZ

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Trump is just plain easy to manipulate, if you do it right. Israel, Russia, Turkey, China, NK, all of them.

The trick is keeping Trump on course, since he will do a 180 at the drop of a hat.

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I've hung out with at least 30 people from NWP/DD/PFA, maybe 50 if you count the WSOP parties back in the day. Nobody has ever described them as awkward. Well, Marty stealing Chinamaniac's coke was awkward, but that wasn't my fault.

A year ago, I picked Devidee up and we drove way up to the boonies to tour Vegas1369's grow operation. Devidee has always been one of my favorite posters, and I had a fun time hanging out with him. I'm sure we'll have fun again in March, particularly because we can add a significant quantity of beer to the experience.

One interesting thing I've noticed about meeting up with forum people is that we very rarely talk about the forum.

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Yeah, I had a good time taking that tour. Mainly because as a weed novice I learned a ton. Thanks again for the ride.

All of us should meet up at a bar next time and I can try out all my new Mossad/joo jokes on you guys.

(Just kidding. None of them are new.)

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this is weird

i need to get dirty b's opinion on this latest version of devidee.

or does this mean devidee doesn't really hate jews? wait i'm confused

Better be nice!

""If they do ask us to leave, if we don't do it in a very friendly basis, we will charge them sanctions like they've never seen before ever. It'll make Iranian sanctions look somewhat tame," he told reporters.

Plus

"We have a very extraordinarily expensive air base that's there. It cost billions of dollars to build. Long before my time. We're not leaving unless they pay us back for it."

how short the memory is of you all


just in Sept 2019 drone attacks knocked out 1/2 of the Saudi Arabian oil production...source of attacks: Iran; now wouldn't you call that an act of war?

the Saudi's are a friend of ours

The honeypot thing regarding one of Trump's Iran advisor is just a rumor which could very well be fabricated.

But you know what isn't fabricated?

The fact that the Russian "hacking" of the DNC was actually an incredibly unsophisticated phishing operation aimed at John Podesta himself, and he fell for it.

So before you laugh at Republicans and say, "Lol, they're so naive and easy to manipulate", look in your own party's mirror.

Will Donald Trump ever listen to his own advice?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSrC7-ERrE4

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

The honeypot thing regarding one of Trump's Iran advisor is just a rumor which could very well be fabricated.

But you know what isn't fabricated?

The fact that the Russian "hacking" of the DNC was actually an incredibly unsophisticated phishing operation aimed at John Podesta himself, and he fell for it.

So before you laugh at Republicans and say, "Lol, they're so naive and easy to manipulate", look in your own party's mirror.

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just quoting this for posterity because wowwwwwwww.

What’s the over under on people killed at the funeral?

It started off with a few now up to 40+ due to too many people.

And I wonder who they will blame for those deaths too? I think Trump really shook the beehive here.

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What’s the over under on people killed at the funeral?

It started off with a few now up to 40+ due to too many people.

And I wonder who they will blame for those deaths too? I think Trump really shook the beehive here.

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we are not going to win this war.

iran has a virtually limitless spectrum of asymmetrical options. they can manufacture their own surface to air missiles and sail them to any coastal city to down commercial aircraft with exactly zero reliable attribution. trumps own military will refuse his hysterical orders on legal grounds and this country will assume failed nationstate status within hours.

the only upside is that the grand old evangelical party will be finally and utterly revealed as a cult of fools who failed at even their own apocalypse.

UK withdrawing troops/diplomatic staff from middle east and refusing to go down on the team retard ship.

germany, same.

nato halting training in area.

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Originally Posted by simpdog

What’s the over under on people killed at the funeral?

It started off with a few now up to 40+ due to too many people.

And I wonder who they will blame for those deaths too? I think Trump really shook the beehive here.

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we are not going to win this war.

iran has a virtually limitless spectrum of asymmetrical options. they can manufacture their own surface to air missiles and sail them to any coastal city to down commercial aircraft with exactly zero reliable attribution. trumps own military will refuse his hysterical orders on legal grounds and this country will assume failed nationstate status within hours.

the only upside is that the grand old evangelical party will be finally and utterly revealed as a cult of fools who failed at even their own apocalypse.

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if a US commercial aircraft was actually shot down, it would be like 9/11 and the US public would overwhelmingly be behind annihilating iran and it might lead to the end of their regime. i don't care who shot it down. the neocons would blame iran either way and goodbye iran.

this, of course, would likely fuck us in a million ways going forward, including inviting more terror attacks, completely destabilizing the region, the return of ISIS, much greater influence of russia and china in the middle east and the world, and the worldwide economy crashing.

at the risk of going full wine aunt, i believe these things, as well as the trillions of dollars we've now likely wasted in the middle east, have already been set in motion by the drone strike. there's literally no upside to it.

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UK withdrawing troops/diplomatic staff from middle east and refusing to go down on the team retard ship.

germany, same.

nato halting training in area.

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and when the US leaves iraq, everything we've spent there will have been wasted and welcome back ISIS

and there's this

JUST IN: U.S. Forces on High Alert for Possible ‘Imminent Threat’ From Iranian Drone Strikes

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/just-in-...ranian-drones/

i dont think it will be ISIS, i think it will be a hybrid org totally invested in absolute violence with zero interest in orthodox islam, populated by middle class educated arabs radicalized by an evangelical crusader dotard republican.

also jews

slightly off topic, can anyone explain why rubio is arguing for an entirely new impeachment trial in addition to the current one? did he think this out at all?

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im not even going to get into the fact that in the senate trials of both clinton and johnson, new testimony was introduced that wasnt considered during the house impeachment process, so he's not even factually correct.

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slightly off topic, can anyone explain why rubio is arguing for an entirely new impeachment trial in addition to the current one? did he think this out at all?

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im not even going to get into the fact that in the senate trials of both clinton and johnson, new testimony was introduced that wasnt considered during the house impeachment process, so he's not even factually correct.

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Because the thing that Republicans loathe and fear more than anything else is the truth. The truth usually looks bad for them, and it always looks terrible for Trump. This is why they must construct an alternate universe in a bubble with Fox News, OANN, etc.

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slightly off topic, can anyone explain why rubio is arguing for an entirely new impeachment trial in addition to the current one? did he think this out at all?

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im not even going to get into the fact that in the senate trials of both clinton and johnson, new testimony was introduced that wasnt considered during the house impeachment process, so he's not even factually correct.

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Because the thing that Republicans loathe and fear more than anything else is the truth. The truth usually looks bad for them, and it always looks terrible for Trump. This is why they must construct an alternate universe in a bubble with Fox News, OANN, etc.

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interesting, so youre saying the republican party is a cult bound together through a combination of evangelical christian doomsday fetishes and sociopathic gaslighting?

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Because the thing that Republicans loathe and fear more than anything else is the truth. The truth usually looks bad for them, and it always looks terrible for Trump. This is why they must construct an alternate universe in a bubble with Fox News, OANN, etc.

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interesting, so youre saying the republican party is a cult bound together through a combination of evangelical christian doomsday fetishes and sociopathic gaslighting?

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Ok boomer,

That’s about as accurate as saying the Democratic Party is a cult lead by Antifa bound together through a combination of killing babies, socialism, child sex trafficking and cutting their dicks off.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

The honeypot thing regarding one of Trump's Iran advisor is just a rumor which could very well be fabricated.

But you know what isn't fabricated?

The fact that the Russian "hacking" of the DNC was actually an incredibly unsophisticated phishing operation aimed at John Podesta himself, and he fell for it.

So before you laugh at Republicans and say, "Lol, they're so naive and easy to manipulate", look in your own party's mirror.

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Druff lives to win political arguments, and his last two contributions in this thread have been But Obama and But Democrats.

Hate to see it!

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interesting, so youre saying the republican party is a cult bound together through a combination of evangelical christian doomsday fetishes and sociopathic gaslighting?

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Ok boomer,

That’s about as accurate as saying the Democratic Party is a cult lead by Antifa bound together through a combination of killing babies, socialism, child sex trafficking and cutting their dicks off.

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a republican bootlicker managing to fuck up a 'ok boomer' joke is both painful and on-brand.

atine in a nutshell.

https://i.imgur.com/o8ZJqks.jpg

BREAKING: Missiles Reportedly Hit Airbase in Iraq Housing U.S. Troops

https://www.mediaite.com/news/missil...roops-reports/

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our stable genius just got us in another war

So anything happening in the world?

https://i.imgur.com/6J1ehnS.jpg

its not impossible this is a face saving gesture agreed on by both trump and iran. trump looked absolutely cowed in that video from earlier today. flip a coin honestly.

i'm going to need the pro-drone strikers to get back in here and explain why that was smart?

endless wars guys. i'm sure we'll end up spending another $5 trillion here. getting out of the iran deal was a brilliant decision

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Originally Posted by sonatine

its not impossible this is a face saving gesture agreed on by both trump and iran. trump looked absolutely cowed in that video from earlier today. flip a coin honestly.

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you see trump agreeing to that?

ill be sticking with amtrak for a hot minute.

Is Air Force has already entered Iran according to sources.