**Official UFC thread**

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Originally Posted by Hockey Guy

Also, this link from TSN in Canada has some of the finishes from the PPV. Didn't know the the UFC allowed them to show PPV finishes so I'll post it:

http://www.tsn.ca/holloway-defeats-p...nship-1.628760

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To view the video, you have to use a VPN service on your browser like Hola.

The UFC allows PPV highlights internationally as countries in Europe, Canada, Asia etc., their cable networks over there have a deal with the UFC to buy the packages in bulk on regular cable TV in those regions to maximize the amount of "eyes" on the UFC in those emerging markets. That's why when you watch a 3rd party stream of UFC PPVs, its quite often a re-aggregate of a TV network over in the UK like BT Sport.

Also, for most of these regions, when the UFC is on - it's literally in the buttfuck of the A.M....PPV isn't even a worthy viable option, and I don't even think some EU rules even allow it.

Of course, the UFC/Zuffa are Nazis when it comes to highlights being accessed in the United States or on social media like Twitter.

Oh, and what:

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UFC returns to Halifax on Feb 19th, headlined by JDS/Struve 2.

Good ole presale tix, got same seats pretty much.

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Originally Posted by Shizzmoney

Oh, and what:

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interesting thing... apparently Dana chased down cyborg on 2 different occasions about inaugurating the FW division and both times, cyborg claimed she couldnt make 145 for medical reasons. apparently the last time she tried, she ended up in the hospital and was told her career is overish.

I think they should just skip featherweight and have a light weight division for someone like Cyborg. 115, 135, and 155 would be a good balance. If a female fighter can't make weight at one of them then gtfo.

honestly? bring on a 155 lb female division _and_ a 145.

because honestly, wmma: we are either doing this or we are not.

its hard to imagine there arent a slew of hefty slav bitches who would make 155 something special.

Stacked on Northcutt, watched line go from +125 to -105 over the last few days. Checked just now, hes back up to +125.

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Not sure how any can bet on Mickey Gall unless they are Punk fans thinking it's good since he beat their hero. He might be decent but we haven't seen shit from him compared to Sage Northcutt.

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Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker

Not sure how any can bet on Mickey Gall unless they are Punk fans thinking it's good since he beat their hero. He might be decent but we haven't seen shit from him compared to Sage Northcutt.

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I mean, Northcutt did not look good on his back and clearly people think that Gall is going to get him there easily and casually harvest his neck. But to see the line move this fast, this soon before the fight, I'm wondering if Northcutt is hurt. Gall is a fucking no one. He has no wrestling background after high school and Northcutt does have a measure of TD to fall back on here. Gall's done great in grappling comps but that shit is notoriously unreliable once someone gets hit in the face. And to make things worse, Northcutt has that open stance karate shit going on so its not like Gall can just duck and nail a double a la Punk.

But watch, these fucking lines never lie lately. Someone knows something and Im going to go broke here and they are not.

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Originally Posted by sonatine

But watch, these fucking lines never lie lately. Someone knows something and Im going to go broke here and they are not.

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Nothing to worry about dude. I have it on good authority that Barberena will be taking out Covington in a big upset so you can safely hedge a bunch & make some $.

http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sho...579#post617579

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Originally Posted by DJ_Chaps

UFC returns to Halifax on Feb 19th, headlined by JDS/Struve 2.

Good ole presale tix, got same seats pretty much.

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Speaking of Based Lloyd, I can't wait to fade his picks while watching live. I already know he's taking JDS, who isn't. But I wonder how lol the odds will be.

a few yawners so far. This one should be good tho. Wineland/Mizugaki.

I could be wrong but it looked like Aldana was out for a split second.

If you bet Gall, take the submission prop. I think Sage wins in a decision, but those are the plays IMO

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Originally Posted by Shizzmoney

If you bet Gall, take the submission prop. I think Sage wins in a decision, but those are the plays IMO

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This was my idea as well, then I imagined Northcutt on this back for two rounds, pulling guard like a boss, and I realized that there wasnt a lot of equity in the +150 range. Honestly the more I consider how fucked up this fight is, the more I wish I'd stayed away completely.

Sage's line opened at +125, slid to -105, and in the last 24 hours shot to +130.

Bad fucking juju.

Uriah sub prop +160 and by decision +135 good values too

is this a 25' ring or 30'

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Originally Posted by sonatine

is this a 25' ring or 30'

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looks like the regular 30' job to me. they wouldn't use the small guy in a huge arena, I don't think.

Faber looking fucking delightful, but of course hes facing someone whose 2-5 in his last 7 sooOoOoOooOoooooo...

Pickett looking like he got sent through a windshield, pretty sure that cheekbone is broken.

Why bother having an interview with Dom and Cody?

Beep beep. Can't hear shit

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Originally Posted by simpdog

Why bother having an interview with Dom and Cody?

Beep beep. Can't hear beep

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FYP

LOVE the way these 2 are talking to each other. fun ass fight.

sage has absolutely atrocious ring discipline.

sage is totally fucking retarded.

Took Gall by sub. Jim Miller style BJJ is just too damn good.

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Originally Posted by sonatine

sage has absolutely atrocious ring discipline.

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I forgot how bad Sage take down defense is but he can't defend himself in any part of fighting and is just out there trying to be karate boy.

And honestly Sage doesn't seem to have any heart.

Oh shit I took a shot. Better shoot and oh shit he has me night as well tap.

Pussy

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Originally Posted by sonatine

sage has absolutely atrocious ring discipline.

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I forgot how bad Sage take down defense is but he can't defend himself in any part of fighting and is just out there trying to be karate boy.

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every stupid decision he could make, he made. im just floored. he doesn't have a killer instinct, he does not give enough of a fuck about winning.

all he had to do was stay on the outside and work against a dogshit opponent with literally no head movement.

and every single chance he had, he ended up getting sucked into a takedown instead of just backing away and doing his fuckin job.

hes like uriah hall without the talent.

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Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker

I forgot how bad Sage take down defense is but he can't defend himself in any part of fighting and is just out there trying to be karate boy.

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every stupid decision he could make, he made. im just floored. he doesn't have a killer instinct, he does not give enough of a fuck about winning.

all he had to do was stay on the outside and work against a dogshit opponent with literally no head movement.

and every single chance he had, he ended up getting sucked into a takedown instead of just backing away and doing his fuckin job.

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yea he looked like he gave two shits just showing up for the paycheck. I stayed away but would have bet him if I was forced to and been on the wrong side of it.

Sage was thinking more about protecting his face instead of winning this fight. If he gets too many bruises he can't do that Abercrombie or whatever spring fashion magazine photo shoot.

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every stupid decision he could make, he made. im just floored. he doesn't have a killer instinct, he does not give enough of a fuck about winning.

all he had to do was stay on the outside and work against a dogshit opponent with literally no head movement.

and every single chance he had, he ended up getting sucked into a takedown instead of just backing away and doing his fuckin job.

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yea he looked like he gave two shits just showing up for the paycheck. I stayed away but would have bet him if I was forced to and been on the wrong side of it.

Sage was thinking more about protecting his face instead of winning this fight. If he gets too many bruises he can't do that Abercrombie or whatever spring fashion magazine photo shoot.

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i mean, im not saying he was there for a paycheck personally, but he acted like a guy who believed his own bullshit. like he watches top ten fighters and says 'oh yeah i can do that, i can protect off my back, i can do reversals, so i dont need to tweak my fucking game to play up my advantages because somehow that isnt within the tao of fighting'.

meanwhile the dudes above him in the rankings arent petroleum engineer majors trying to live out their bruce fucking lee fantasies, they are athletes from various third world backwaters around the world who grind their way to wins with training, guts, and listening to their fucking coaches gameplans.

and they make tonight's sage northcutt look like a fuckup dilettante.

the only good news here is that anyone from matt brown and up on the ladder is going to fuck gall sideways then wipe off on his corpse.

lol woman's mma

Then they go to a commercial with Paige in it lol

At least Paige had more heart than Sage lol

She at least made attempts to get out of the choke.

i will say this much, i dont think sage had anywhere to go in that choke. he was wrapped up completely, it was under his chin, and its the only thing gall is good at so it was time to tap.

Paige did show heart it's just she has a LONG way to go. People were hyping her up way too early without fighting anyone decent.

It obviously would be great for UFC if she would have gone on winning before her loss to Rose and now this one so they have that young cute, sweet girl everyone loves angle that can bring new fans to mma but she wasn't ever ready for the spotlight.

I haven't watched a boxing fight in a while and Bernard Hopkins makes for a borefest mostly but it's his last fight so I'll definitely be watching that in a bit.

when paige is 'on', shes something to be reckoned with. but when shes not firing on all cylinders, she just.. fuckin.. sucks. tonight paige was literally swinging at air.

from Big Dave Meltzer http://www.f4wonline.com/ufc-news/uf...-lesson-226751


UFC ON FOX 22 RATINGS TEACH AN IMPORTANT MARKETING LESSON

BY DAVE MELTZER

Last night's UFC on FOX show told a marketing lesson that can't be ignored.

A show headlined by Paige VanZant vs. Michelle Waterson and Mickey Gall vs. Sage Northcutt did 2.69 million viewers on the fast nationals.

The number is 17 to 20 percent above what the December shows have done the past three years with championship fights headlining in 2013 and 2015 and a top heavyweight fight of Junior Dos Santos vs. Stipe Miocic as the 2014 main event.

Urijah Faber's retirement fight may have also played heavily into the number. In the arena, it was clearly the real main event at the Golden 1 Center in Sacramento.

The fast nationals measure the first two hours of the show everywhere but the West Coast, etc etc

gall is dropping to 155, and since he cant beat anyone on the ladder currently he's called out dan hardy, who hasnt fought for 4 years.

When he said that last night about how he will be the champ at 155 in a few years and wants Dan Hardy I couldn't help but laugh thinking surely he isn't serious but he is lol. That fight does what for his career? Dan Hardy was a liked fighter but never a main draw back then and certainly not now.

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That fight does what for his career?

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How much more obvious can it be?

Mickey's a young guy with some tools and a little skill who, by virtue of calling out each of his opponents, is way more well-known among casual fans than way, WAY more than half the roster, probably 4/5's of the roster, really. He turned his very first fight (Dead Serious MMA, that hotbed of prospects) into a UFC spot that an insane number of people knew about relative to the skill involved. Beat a guy who wasn't even half a guy, then gets a spot (a main card spot, right before the co-main) on a UFC PPV, beats that can, then talks his way into getting Sage to fight him when he had no real reason to and co-headline a fox card with him, which he obv wins. So he calls out yet another guy with a well-known name but with some massive flaws, Dan HArdy, and if that fight ever happens, it will be in the spotlight of a PPV main card or a fight night main or co-main event or some shit like that.

Or, he could do what every other jamook in the UFC does, which is try to fight better guys every time, get starched a bunch of times, take who the UFC gives him, and live out his career as a UFC journeyman who probably ends up getting dropped and re-signed a few times over the years, makes no real money at all, has no fame to speak of, and takes a shitload more damage than a guy who's playing the game the way it's currently best played in the UFC.

If you don't understand what Mickey has already done and what he's currently trying to do, you probably still get angry when the #1 contender gets skipped over for title fights because some other cat grabbed the spotlight and took that shit for himself (Hi, Cody GArbrandt! Dumb as rocks but knows how the game works). But that's how it works, whether we want it to be that way or not. Mickey knows a top 10 guy ends his run in dramatic fashion, but a younger hungry fighter (w solid wrestling) facing an older famous fighter who really wants to stand and has no wrestling to speak of (some bjj sure, but 0 wrestling) who hasn't fought in fuck knows how long? Yeah, Mickey knows what he's doing for sure.

And even if he doesn't get the Dan HArdy fight, ppl are still talking about him and it a few days later. Mickey's on the MMA Hour today I think too, which is probably the best show a fighter can get on, and he's been on a bunch of times already.

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Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker

Dan Hardy was a liked fighter but never a main draw back then and certainly not now.

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Guy was in the main or co-main event over and over, against ppl like GSP, Condit, Swick, Rumble, Amir whatever, Chris Lytle, etc. Either the main or co-main every one of those.

edit: Gall was just on the phone with the mmahour, and they brought on Dan HArdy via skype. Hardy said the fight just wouldn't make sense for him, but he'd love to grapple with Gall, either at Polaris or EBI or one of those. So Gall's call-out will likely result in him getting a paycheck without even having to get punched in the face. Not bad for a fairly low-level fighter who we didn't even know existed a year ago.