Time to get on the TRUMP train

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

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Originally Posted by ToasterOven

Don't be surprised if Trump influences future candidates. With so many blue collar white supporters, a candidate without Trump's baggage could run on no entitlement reform, nationalism, big spending on infrastructure etc, and ditch the donor's pet issues.

Things we now know.... "christian conservatives" don't seem to care about religion much, rank and file Republicans don't give a shit about tax cuts for the wealthy, and no party wants to cut social security.

An under reported story this year was the Republicans had 6 contenders (10 non contenders) with essentially the exact same policy plans, and Trump.

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They need to stop worrying about their own base and figure out how to attract the unaffiliated or moderate Democrats.

Trump actually managed to do that, to some degree. That's how guys like Marty got so excited about him. When was the last time you saw Marty crowing about a Republican candidate?

Unfortuantely, what was good about Trump was also what was bad about Trump, and he turned off more people than he turned on. And so here we are.

But yes, if you're trying to say that a Republican candidate with a more populist appeal might do well next time, you might be right. Trump won the primary because the party was out of touch with the desires of its base. But they'll have to get beyond their own base to ever win again.

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But it's not even populism. Rank and file Republicans don't care about the debt, deficits or abortion. It seemed like none of the main stream candidates felt like they could wander at all in the last two cycles, think Romney.

Imagine if Romney hedged on abortion. Imagine if Kasich had a plan that left the top marginal tax rate, cut taxes in the middle and said he was personally pro life but felt the state should stay out of it (like Tim Kaine). Conventional wisdom was that there was no gray area on these issues in the Republican primary, but Trump has shattered that notion.

Hard right might be a crowded lane in 2020 with Cruz, maybe Ryan, maybe Tom Cotton, Rubio etc. Someone could grab the center right.

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http://www.infowars.com/political-sc...-the-election/


https://youtu.be/fK1sc-6fGT8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MubunsD-7g

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Originally Posted by Henry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MubunsD-7g

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Pretty funny.

There are idiots on both sides, idiots that will vote for either candidate no matter what.

You guys have to admit this is hillarious


https://youtu.be/UCyvyyo6dtQ

Im surprised she didn't go for the Brooklyn accent when she was a new york senator

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Originally Posted by Mintjewlips

UH OH

http://www.infowars.com/political-sc...-the-election/

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There's a 99.9% chance that you will believe any ridiculous shit that confirms your existing beliefs. Notice the complete lack of methodology and source data.

In the last two Presidential elections, the only state FiveThiryEight has predicted incorrectly is when Obama won Indiana by less than 1%. They have it over 88% for Hillary, which lines up with every betting site's odds.

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Originally Posted by DirtyB

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Originally Posted by Mintjewlips

UH OH

http://www.infowars.com/political-sc...-the-election/

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There's a 99.9% chance that you will believe any ridiculous shit that confirms your existing beliefs. Notice the complete lack of methodology and source data.

In the last two Presidential elections, the only state FiveThiryEight has predicted incorrectly is when Obama won Indiana by less than 1%. They have it over 88% for Hillary, which lines up with every betting site's odds.

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So you needed methodology and source data to tell you Obama would beat Mc Cain and Romney? How naive are you? Any idiot could have called the last two presidential elections. There's a 99% chance you're a delusional libtard.

Betting lines change every minute, to gauge the outcome of this election by using betting lines when the election is more then a couple of months ahead is just asinine.

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Originally Posted by Mintjewlips

Any idiot could have called the last two presidential elections.

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Based on what?

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Originally Posted by DirtyB

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Originally Posted by Mintjewlips

Any idiot could have called the last two presidential elections.

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Based on what?

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Are you serious?

Obama has more charisma in his half white index finger then Mc Cain and Romney combined. Do i really need to explain this to you? Being that you are a bleeding heart libtard, i don't think i need to spell it out for you.

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Originally Posted by Mintjewlips

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Originally Posted by DirtyB

Based on what?

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Are you serious?

Obama has more charisma in his half white index finger then Mc Cain and Romney combined. Do i really need to explain this to you? Being that you are a bleeding heart libtard, i don't think i need to spell it out for you.

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John McCain is very charismatic. You're basing your analysis entirely on hindsight.

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Originally Posted by Mintjewlips

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Originally Posted by DirtyB

Based on what?

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Are you serious?

Obama has more charisma in his half white index finger then Mc Cain and Romney combined. Do i really need to explain this to you? Being that you are a bleeding heart libtard, i don't think i need to spell it out for you.

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He left you with the the perfect opportunity to say "Professor Norpoth's model". Are you even trying?

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Originally Posted by Mintjewlips

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Originally Posted by DirtyB

There's a 99.9% chance that you will believe any ridiculous shit that confirms your existing beliefs. Notice the complete lack of methodology and source data.

In the last two Presidential elections, the only state FiveThiryEight has predicted incorrectly is when Obama won Indiana by less than 1%. They have it over 88% for Hillary, which lines up with every betting site's odds.

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So you needed methodology and source data to tell you Obama would beat Mc Cain and Romney? How naive are you? Any idiot could have called the last two presidential elections. There's a 99% chance you're a delusional libtard.

Betting lines change every minute, to gauge the outcome of this election by using betting lines when the election is more then a couple of months ahead is just asinine.

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You guys are still saying Trump is going to win and he is farther behind than McCain or Romney at this point.

Plus, most of the right wing nut caucus thought Romney was going to win right up until election night, including Romney.

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Originally Posted by ToasterOven

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Originally Posted by Mintjewlips

So you needed methodology and source data to tell you Obama would beat Mc Cain and Romney? How naive are you? Any idiot could have called the last two presidential elections. There's a 99% chance you're a delusional libtard.

Betting lines change every minute, to gauge the outcome of this election by using betting lines when the election is more then a couple of months ahead is just asinine.

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You guys are still saying Trump is going to win and he is farther behind than McCain or Romney at this point.

Plus, most of the right wing nut caucus thought Romney was going to win right up until election night, including Romney.

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You're discounting the Trump closet vote. The atmosphere for those supporting Trump is so hostile that tons of people are keeping their voting preference to themselves. Just like Brexit which all the libtards said had no chance of winning. That didn't exist for McCain and Romney.

Also, Pollsters themselves have admitted that polling has been harder to do during this election with the proliferation of cell phone use. Much higher than 4 or 8 years ago.

And when we get that October Surprise watch out!

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Originally Posted by BiffCo99

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Originally Posted by ToasterOven

You guys are still saying Trump is going to win and he is farther behind than McCain or Romney at this point.

Plus, most of the right wing nut caucus thought Romney was going to win right up until election night, including Romney.

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You're discounting the Trump closet vote. The atmosphere for those supporting Trump is so hostile that tons of people are keeping their voting preference to themselves. Just like Brexit which all the libtards said had no chance of winning. That didn't exist for McCain and Romney.

Also, Pollsters themselves have admitted that polling has been harder to do during this election with the proliferation of cell phone use. Much higher than 4 or 8 years ago.

And when we get that October Surprise watch out!

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Exhibit a

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Originally Posted by DirtyB

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Originally Posted by Mintjewlips

Any idiot could have called the last two presidential elections.

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Based on what?

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Common sense. Despite my afilliation with Trump now, I voted Obama the first time, and was almost positive he would win. 2nd time I didn't bother voting, but I wanted Obama to win, and the polls had me thinking he was at least 96% to win.

I don't remember much about that time period, but I remember the news said obama was 0.5% favorite, yet betting sites had him as a massive favorite. Thats when I realized the news sites kept their polls close just to keep people interested.

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Originally Posted by BiffCo99

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Originally Posted by ToasterOven

You guys are still saying Trump is going to win and he is farther behind than McCain or Romney at this point.

Plus, most of the right wing nut caucus thought Romney was going to win right up until election night, including Romney.

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You're discounting the Trump closet vote. The atmosphere for those supporting Trump is so hostile that tons of people are keeping their voting preference to themselves. Just like Brexit which all the libtards said had no chance of winning. That didn't exist for McCain and Romney.

Also, Pollsters themselves have admitted that polling has been harder to do during this election with the proliferation of cell phone use. Much higher than 4 or 8 years ago.

And when we get that October Surprise watch out!

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I've been hearing about the "closet vote" for the Republican nominee, and why polling undercounts Tepublican voters, every time the Republican is behind in polling at least since Dole in '96.

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Originally Posted by hongkonger

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Originally Posted by BiffCo99

You're discounting the Trump closet vote. The atmosphere for those supporting Trump is so hostile that tons of people are keeping their voting preference to themselves. Just like Brexit which all the libtards said had no chance of winning. That didn't exist for McCain and Romney.

Also, Pollsters themselves have admitted that polling has been harder to do during this election with the proliferation of cell phone use. Much higher than 4 or 8 years ago.

And when we get that October Surprise watch out!

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I've been hearing about the "closet vote" for the Republican nominee, and why polling undercounts Tepublican voters, every time the Republican is behind in polling at least since Dole in '96.

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There has never been such a high level of open hostility across the board from the left towards the Republican nominee like we're seeing now with Trump.

I mean, look at this epic thread as one tiny example. The libtards like you are out in full force claiming anyone who supports Trump is a racist or an idiot. Sure they used some of the same tactics against McCain and Romney but this election is some next level shit. Which is why the Trump Closet could be such a force come November.

Now just sit back and tremble in fear as you await your October Surprise!

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Originally Posted by hongkonger

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Originally Posted by BiffCo99

You're discounting the Trump closet vote. The atmosphere for those supporting Trump is so hostile that tons of people are keeping their voting preference to themselves. Just like Brexit which all the libtards said had no chance of winning. That didn't exist for McCain and Romney.

Also, Pollsters themselves have admitted that polling has been harder to do during this election with the proliferation of cell phone use. Much higher than 4 or 8 years ago.

And when we get that October Surprise watch out!

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I've been hearing about the "closet vote" for the Republican nominee, and why polling undercounts Tepublican voters, every time the Republican is behind in polling at least since Dole in '96.

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Yep. Last two elections the closet vote was that people didn't want to be branded racist so they told the pollsters they were voting Obama, but they really wouldn't come Election Day.

Where are these closet Trump fans? Trump fans are the loudest and most vocal group I've ever heard. I can't get the fuck away from some old dumbass wanting to talk Trump every day. If there exists Trump closet fans, they live in NYC and SF and don't matter anyway, because here in swing state America they won't shut the fuck up. This is why they are always shocked when they lose. Normal people just keep their shit to themselves and then vote.

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LOL @ LIBERALS NOT KNOWING HOW SMALL 1% IS

Seriously, that's how dumb u are, you don't even know what the first # means. Hopeless much??

We're seeing the exact same response as 2012.

1. Don't you see how many people are at the rallies?

2. There's a ton of people that the polls don't find voting for the Republican

3. Cherry picking one good poll and saying "See?"

The wing nut media is going to convince these poor, ignorant, weak minded bean bags that their guy is going to win. Who breaks down on Fox this time a la Karl Rove?

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Originally Posted by ToasterOven

We're seeing the exact same response as 2012.

1. Don't you see how many people are at the rallies?

2. There's a ton of people that the polls don't find voting for the Republican

3. Cherry picking one good poll and saying "See?"

The wing nut media is going to convince these poor, ignorant, weak minded bean bags that their guy is going to win. Who breaks down on Fox this time a la Karl Rove?

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I grew up in Philadelphia, and you just described the Democrat machine in the inner city. Have you ever seen an inner city precinct on election day? Probably not, you'd be scared to death.

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Originally Posted by BiffCo99

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Originally Posted by hongkonger

I've been hearing about the "closet vote" for the Republican nominee, and why polling undercounts Tepublican voters, every time the Republican is behind in polling at least since Dole in '96.

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There has never been such a high level of open hostility across the board from the left towards the Republican nominee like we're seeing now with Trump.

I mean, look at this epic thread as one tiny example. The libtards like you are out in full force claiming anyone who supports Trump is a racist or an idiot. Sure they used some of the same tactics against McCain and Romney but this election is some next level shit. Which is why the Trump Closet could be such a force come November.

Now just sit back and tremble in fear as you await your October Surprise!

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There also has never been such a high level of open hostility from Republicans toward their own nominee. You think all those Republicans who refuse to back him, say they'll vote Hillary, and even left the party, are closet Trump voters? Forget pulling away angry working class Democrats and middle of the road voters, he can't even consolidate the base of his own party. LMAO

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Originally Posted by hongkonger

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Originally Posted by BiffCo99

There has never been such a high level of open hostility across the board from the left towards the Republican nominee like we're seeing now with Trump.

I mean, look at this epic thread as one tiny example. The libtards like you are out in full force claiming anyone who supports Trump is a racist or an idiot. Sure they used some of the same tactics against McCain and Romney but this election is some next level shit. Which is why the Trump Closet could be such a force come November.

Now just sit back and tremble in fear as you await your October Surprise!

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There also has never been such a high level of open hostility from Republicans toward their own nominee. You think all those Republicans who refuse to back him, say they'll vote Hillary, and even left the party, are closet Trump voters? Forget pulling away angry working class Democrats and middle of the road voters, he can't even consolidate the base of his own party. LMAO

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What LMAO is your obsessiveness in this thread. You already said your candidate was Jill Stein, someone getting 2% of the vote. You really need to go bird watching, you are one hyper liberal and it will calm you down. We get it, you like people getting handouts, electric cars, Al Gore and a vegan diet. What else you trying to prove here day after day after day? Now go listen to some Katie Perry and log off for a while.

Love the PFA Brown Shirts who spend all day making sure to "fix reps". You guys are pathetic and fall right in line with the libtard hive mentality.

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Originally Posted by ToasterOven

We're seeing the exact same response as 2012.

1. Don't you see how many people are at the rallies?

2. There's a ton of people that the polls don't find voting for the Republican

3. Cherry picking one good poll and saying "See?"

The wing nut media is going to convince these poor, ignorant, weak minded bean bags that their guy is going to win. Who breaks down on Fox this time a la Karl Rove?

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I grew up in Philadelphia, and you just described the Democrat machine in the inner city. Have you ever seen an inner city precinct on election day? Probably not, you'd be scared to death.

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lol

You just get dumber and dumber.

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Originally Posted by ToasterOven

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Originally Posted by Draymond

I grew up in Philadelphia, and you just described the Democrat machine in the inner city. Have you ever seen an inner city precinct on election day? Probably not, you'd be scared to death.

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lol

You just get richer and richer.

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Yep, just got great news this week. Like I said before, it does not matter to me who is President, I get mine. And I am getting mine for sure. My biggest challenge presently is finding the best accountant possible. Unlike most fuckers on this board, I do not take my taxes to H&R Block, I can assure you that.

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Originally Posted by ToasterOven

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Originally Posted by Draymond

I grew up in Philadelphia, and you just described the Democrat machine in the inner city. Have you ever seen an inner city precinct on election day? Probably not, you'd be scared to death.

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lol

You just get dumber and dumber.

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the go-to response for this hopeless liberal. if somebody makes a point that might make sense, u just say "u get dumber & dumber" or "this is the dumbest thing ive ever read." Is ur emotional intelligence so low that u don't understand that ppl are different and can think differently than you?

ur brain is completely shut off to everything u havent already trained itself to believe. But if u actually knew what u were doing, u would know there is no reason for YOU (I'm telling u you are a giant loser, if u cant take a hint) to be pushing ur opinion like u know what ur doing. Possibly a narcissistic personality disorder of some sort?

BREAKING NEWS:

THREE WAY RACE NEW POLLS 8-18-2016:

RASMUSSEN: +2 CLINTON
LA TIMES: +1 CLINTON
REUTERS: +4 CLINTON

NEVADA: TIE

Even after $50M in ads versus NO ads by Trump, a horrible two weeks for Trump, HILLARY CANNOT CLOSE THE DEAL.

I honestly think Hillary's failing health is scaring the shit out of people. Like I said, come debate time, this could very well be a 2 point race. And with Hillary's failing health, she very well could collapse on stage when Trump starts overwhelming her.

Bottom line is Clinton peaked too soon. Come October, you will see a tied race, then Wikileaks steps in and its over. Going to be hilarious watching people on CNN having epileptic seizures when Trump takes the lead October 15th.

LOL @ THE REP SCORES OF ALL THE TRUMP SUPPORTERS

can't u liberals see that u are the party of oppression?

i think hillary would be a lot safer than trump, but I wouldn't be that upset if trump won. kind of think the dems get what they deserve for nominating the least popular candidate in history and asking the public to be excited about it.

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Originally Posted by thesidedish

LOL @ THE REP SCORES OF ALL THE TRUMP SUPPORTERS

can't u liberals see that u are the party of oppression?

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Do you guys ever stop whining and take some personal responsibility? You, Biff, Mint and others are terrible fucking posters independent of political affiliation. 4d has great rep.

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Originally Posted by blake

i think hillary would be a lot safer than trump, but I wouldn't be that upset if trump won. kind of think the dems get what they deserve for nominating the least popular candidate in history and asking the public to be excited about it.

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What do u mean.

Hillary will make more skewed trade deals to benefit her contributors..

All she will do is open the borders more then outsource what ever is left then raise taxes.. that is exactly what she will do. A real formula for misery.

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Originally Posted by ToasterOven

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LOL @ THE REP SCORES OF ALL THE TRUMP SUPPORTERS

can't u liberals see that u are the party of oppression?

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Do you guys ever stop whining and take some personal responsibility? You, Biff, Mint and others are terrible fucking posters independent of political affiliation. 4d has great rep.

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Perhaps the greatest misallocation of rep in the system's history

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Originally Posted by blake

i think hillary would be a lot safer than trump, but I wouldn't be that upset if trump won. kind of think the dems get what they deserve for nominating the least popular candidate in history and asking the public to be excited about it.

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safer how? u mean getting in wars with other countries? Cuz world leaders are much smarter than the average liberal, they don't think "OMG TRUMP IS HITLER." I think the irony is Hillary & the establishment machine are 10X as likely to get us involved in something that's not necessary

safer as in the status quo not changing? u mean the status quo where everyone just wants to stay in power and be relevant and pass laws just to make their friends and donors happy? The system that guy us the rise of Donald Trump, a total dumbass? (a very talented dumbass btw)

AMERCIANS AREN'T MEANT TO BE SAFE, WE TAKE RISKS & WIN, BIG LEAGUE. WE ARE GOING TO MAGA, TRUMP IS JUST THE ONLY ONE WITH ENOUGH BALLS & MONEY TO GET US STARTED TO END THE SCAM THAT POLITICS IN AMERICA HAS BECOME


cue toaster oven: "that is the dumbest thing ive ever read" LMAO

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Do you guys ever stop whining and take some personal responsibility? You, Biff, Mint and others are terrible fucking posters independent of political affiliation. 4d has great rep.

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Perhaps the greatest misallocation of rep in the system's history

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common knowledge that 4d's rep is due to his photoshops, not the quality of his shitty posts, as you are all now realizing. he even did the classic "I'm leaving" post only to come crawling back like the bitch he is.

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Originally Posted by thesidedish

LOL @ THE REP SCORES OF ALL THE TRUMP SUPPORTERS

can't u liberals see that u are the party of oppression?

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Do you guys ever stop whining and take some personal responsibility? You, Biff, Mint and others are terrible fucking posters independent of political affiliation. 4d has great rep.

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I know you're the cool kid in the circle jerk, must feel great to be accepted in a group of online friends seeing as how you have no real life. I bet you get excited when your buddies green rep you and tell you you're a "good poster". Lmao eat a dick you libtards

A neg rep by some retard with one word comments says it all

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Originally Posted by Mintjewlips

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Originally Posted by ToasterOven

Do you guys ever stop whining and take some personal responsibility? You, Biff, Mint and others are terrible fucking posters independent of political affiliation. 4d has great rep.

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I know you're the cool kid in the circle jerk, must feel great to be accepted in a group of online friends seeing as how you have no real life. I bet you get excited when your buddies green rep you and tell you you're a "good poster". Lmao eat a dick you libtards

A neg rep by some retard with one word comments says it all

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SHillary feels inferior because he doesn't have a Mar 2012 join date. Green reps help his low self esteem.

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Originally Posted by thesidedish

LOL @ THE REP SCORES OF ALL THE TRUMP SUPPORTERS

can't u liberals see that u are the party of oppression?

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Do you guys ever stop whining and take some personal responsibility? You, Biff, Mint and others are terrible fucking posters independent of political affiliation. 4d has great rep.

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It's easy to get green reps. Just make posts that the 80% want to see and you get lots of green reps. It's called being a follower. I guarantee you a young Steve Jobs would have like a -200 red on these parts.

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Originally Posted by BiffCo99

There has never been such a high level of open hostility across the board from the left towards the Republican nominee like we're seeing now with Trump.

I mean, look at this epic thread as one tiny example. The libtards like you are out in full force claiming anyone who supports Trump is a racist or an idiot. Sure they used some of the same tactics against McCain and Romney but this election is some next level shit. Which is why the Trump Closet could be such a force come November.

Now just sit back and tremble in fear as you await your October Surprise!

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There also has never been such a high level of open hostility from Republicans toward their own nominee. You think all those Republicans who refuse to back him, say they'll vote Hillary, and even left the party, are closet Trump voters? Forget pulling away angry working class Democrats and middle of the road voters, he can't even consolidate the base of his own party. LMAO

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It's going back a ways, but the repubs really, really didn't want Reagan. If they had modern zombie prog rhetoric figured out back then they would have used it.

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BREAKING NEWS:

THREE WAY RACE NEW POLLS 8-18-2016:

RASMUSSEN: +2 CLINTON
LA TIMES: +1 CLINTON
REUTERS: +4 CLINTON

NEVADA: TIE

Even after $50M in ads versus NO ads by Trump, a horrible two weeks for Trump, HILLARY CANNOT CLOSE THE DEAL.

I honestly think Hillary's failing health is scaring the shit out of people. Like I said, come debate time, this could very well be a 2 point race. And with Hillary's failing health, she very well could collapse on stage when Trump starts overwhelming her.

Bottom line is Clinton peaked too soon. Come October, you will see a tied race, then Wikileaks steps in and its over. Going to be hilarious watching people on CNN having epileptic seizures when Trump takes the lead October 15th.

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PEW IS +4 CLINTON as of 8-18-2016. $50M on ads and all you have in August is +4? Hillary's campaign looks an awful like Jeb! in June of last year. When Trump starts running ads you are going to see a severe tightening.