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Kimbrel might stink but Evan Phillips has been LIGHTS OUT
If the playoffs started now, Kimbrel legitimately shouldn't even be on the roster.Quote:
Originally Posted by LegalizeMeth
But he's the "closer".....
Maybe his postseason "experience" of....basically being the same pitcher he has been this year makes the difference. Veteran grit and all that
Dr PhilQuote:
Originally Posted by LegalizeMeth
Kimbrel tonight. Want me to nudge you or call you?
Roberts is in a pretty tough spot. Does he go with his closer who has been brutal, or an unproven in the post season journeyman with what could very easily be just a fluky few months? peripherals are all pretty unimpressive according to the pundits (although when I watch Phillips I see him blowing guys away with 97 mph cheese on the corners but wtf do I know)
Feel bad for Druff. This is the Dodgers for the rest of 2022 and all of 2023 likely
6 teams of each league is hardly everybody getting in, and the top teams still get an advantage, as it stands now. Football is 7 in each conf and now only one gets an advantage with the best record with a bye. NHL let’s in 8 of 15 in each conference but the funnier shit is the NBA is now doing the playin thus 10 teams get a shot when in reality of the four major sports it’s usually the one with the lowest odds of anything beyond 2-4 teams with a legit shot to win the title come playoff time.Quote:
Originally Posted by SanlmarIf everyone gets in the playoffs what’s the point of the regular season?Quote:
Originally Posted by BCR
You wanna fix parity create a hard salary cap. This new playoff structure is not the solution and I really don’t think it was meant to be.
Having said that, salaries generally are directed at run production. We know the playoffs are about pitching. Playoff successes like Nationals and Braves should give the Guardians hope.
This regular season has been one of the most boring in memory. Can’t wait for playoffs
Tonight’s Brewers Dodgers is a rare interesting series. Burnes Gonsolin is worthy of your time. Playoff caliber. Good bullpens. Neither team is going for broke over this matchup - regular season is never playoffs.
I do give the Dodgers credit for showing up every night when they positively don’t need to win another game. For that charity I tip my cap.
Regular season is idiotic.
- Barry Goldstein
Barry picture shocked me. Has Isildur gone gray too?
Did the heads up match between Isildur & Hastings mark the nigh water mark in poker. I have a distinct memory of driving in my car and hearing reports from CBS radio or something similarly mainstream talking about the nosebleed games in 2009. God I feel old. None of these guys look remotely similar to HSP days now.
As a lifer orioles fan it’s been a surprise especially after they traded away a couple of their best players but the real heart warming thing is watching the Yankees implode at a record pace.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCRHonestly it’s the only thing MLB has done right in twenty years. Kind of did their best to keep the haves and have nots aligned. I mean Chicago has almost $200m payroll, but are inept.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
I feel bad for the Arizona and Colorado’s and Baltimore’s of the world trying to compete in that arms race. They’re lucky to be in a race once a decade.
Cleveland has $64 million payroll. As well as they’re ran, it’s hard to compete with the coastal teams with billion dollar cable deals. I’d grow disinterested by July most years and focused on the wild card if anything.
Don’t forget also the NFL has had only two fully guaranteed contracts I’m aware of. One for Cousins in MN and the monstrosity in Cleveland that Watson just signed. The contracts in the NFL have always been a joke. Guys sign those contracts and get thrown away like so much trash the moment they get hurt with a shitty injury settlement in the end and that’s the majority of most players. Guys who’s names we really never know or hear of.Quote:
Originally Posted by gut
@BCR
You are spot on with Cleveland. So sad you went on to fouled the water with CWS. I understand Cease but the Orioles are chosen by god.
We move on.
That ChiSox bet was just a bad bet. They outhit them 2/1 and could have won, but that number was too high by the time I got down. I also had missed they squeezed in makeup against KC after the rainout against us. We were off yesterday and assumed they were also as I knew they didn’t play Balt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
I won’t touch them again this year. My thought was Cease had a few extra days rest as he approaches career high in innings and thought whole team had three days off. I noticed after I had bet it that they lost yesterday and had buyers remorse before it even started. They’re just bad at baseball. $200 million .500 team.
Thankfully the Padres are anemic atm and kept me a small loser on the day. What a difference a month makes with Padres. They looked like a real team after trades. Then Tatis, Soto has been poor and back now bad, and they’ll be lucky to even make it in. Can’t hit or field atm.
Your Braves to catch Mets bet looks strong. I remember this article when we traded Lindor to Mets that graded it an A trade for them and D for us. Said they fleeced us. What a pleasant surprise Giminez has been. Lindor hasn’t had a bad year at all, but Andres hitting .310 with a better slugging % than Francisco and Rosario up around .290 all year isn’t leaving me feeling all that fleeced. Particularly considering Lindor makes 34 million to Andres $705k. I giggle at this article now. Mr Tickle told me it wasn’t nearly that bad. Our Euro in Moscow at the time knows Mets baseball a lot better than this writer.
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/f...,traded%20this
I don’t like to mess with the serious business thread, so I took my Cleveland talk here.
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Originally Posted by Sanlmar
Very nice on the Tigers game. I got stuck on the phone and didn’t get across the line to bet it.
I didn’t know what to do with this game. I felt like my bet is hedging against itself with a slightly better chance to scoop both sides than lose both sides. Quantrilll has had one bad inning in last 4 starts. The Tribe generally doesn’t hit lefties well. I think it will be a 3-1 type game. I’m leaving for a concert in Chautauqua, Ny and wanted a sweat to listen to on the drive or I probably lay off it altogether. I took the under down another .5 just to get them both in the + as I think split is most likely outcome. Good luck to all.
I went
Single @
+116
Open
Aug 24 • 2022
Ticket ID: 49008
Total Runs: Under 7
CLE Guardians @ SD Padres
Single @
+145
Open
Aug 24 • 2022
Ticket ID: 4900
Moneyline: CLE Guardians
CLE Guardians @ SD Padres
Parlay (2 Picks)0 of 2 settled
Aug 24 • 2022
Ticket ID: 49008
Moneyline: LA Dodgers @ -240
MIL Brewers @ LA Dodgers
Moneyline: STL Cardinals @ -220
STL Cardinals @ CHI Cubs
Odds: +111
There's going to be a "balanced schedule" in 2023.
For the first time ever, each team will play all 29 other teams during the regular season.
They are changing divisional games from 47% of the schedule to just 32% of the schedule. Here's how the 162 games break down:
13 games against 4 division opponents (52 total)
6-7 games against the 10 non-divisional opponents in the same league (64 total)
4 games (two home, two road) against the lone "natural interleague rival", such as Dodgers vs. Angels or Mets vs. Yankees. (4 total)
A single 3-game series against each of the 14 other interleague teams. (42 total)
I feel fine about this. Once we went interleague in the '90s, it was stupid to keep the schedule so restrictive. It becomes much more interesting to see a wider variety of teams, rather than almost half the games against the same four. This is especially true when multiple divisional opponents are terrible and way out of the race, or when one team is running away with the division (think the NL and AL West this year).
It also provides a fairer situation when evaluating overall team records, which is needed to be done in order to establish the "bye" in the first round of the playoffs. Presently, it's unfair for one team to fatten up on wins against a bad division, and then be evaluated against a team in a tough division to order to establish a bye. Here this will become less of a factor.
I'm often against changes to the game made by MLB (the runner on second in extras remains an abomination), but this is a good change.
@BCR
I’ll indulge you
Trying to guess who would be each team's "natural interleague rival". Some are obvious, but some would not be. I haven't attempted to look this up. I'll go by division in the NL, and list each guessed rival.
Dodgers/Angels
Giants/A's
Padres/???
Rockies/???
Diamondbacks/???
Cardinals/Royals
Cubs/White Sox
Reds/Indians
Brewers/Twins
Pirates/Tigers
Mets/Yankees
Marlins/Rays
Nationals/Orioles
Braves/???
Phillies/???
So on the AL side, we have unmatched the Red Sox, Blue Jays, Rangers, Astros, and Mariners.
I can't really see those 5 teams connected with the unmatched teams above in any kind of "rivalry".
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Originally Posted by Sanlmar
Yesterday, you could have gotten served hamburgers by Tony Gonsolin, Alex Vesia, and Evan Phillips.
https://ktla.com/sports/dodgers-pitc...ck-in-the-box/
This was actually on a game day! From 11am-12pm, the three players were serving burgers and manning the drive through at a Jack in the Box in West Hollywood.
https://ktla.com/wp-content/uploads/...resize=720,720
Imagine Gonsolin wins the Cy Young and you can say that just a few months prior, he served you a burger at a drive through.
Nice hit. Tribe hasn’t given up more than 4 runs in 20+ games outside two spot starts where they brought up minor leaguers. It’s why anytime they’re underdogs and I can get a + on both game and under, I take both and view the game almost as a freeroll. They’re just very likely to win it in the event it goes over and you might scoop both.Quote:
Originally Posted by SanlmarQuote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
I didn’t touch yesterday. Within 90 minutes after I posted the other day, I jumped in my car for few hour drive. Turned off my air about 15 minutes into drive because I was cold. I’m never cold. 15 minutes later I had chills.
I just turned around as I knew I was sick. Hour after I got home I was shaking so badly I was worried about chipping a tooth. Everything. Whole body shaking Was at 102.8-103.2 all night. Thought the Covid got me for sure this time, but my home test says no. Was still 100.4 in morning. Fine today outside head cold. So abrupt. I’ve only had chills like that once in my life. Slept all day yesterday. First virus I’ve had like that in a decade. I wouldn’t have bet Tristan anyway.
Have this tonight.
Single @
+235
Open
Aug 26 • 2022
Ticket ID: 49056
Total RBIs by the Player - Including Extra Innings (Listed player must be in starting lineup for bets to stand): Gimenez, Andres - Over 0.5
CLE Guardians @ SEA Mariners
Single @
-112
Open
Aug 26 • 2022
Ticket ID: 490562
Moneyline: CLE Guardians
CLE Guardians @ SEA Mariners
The math on Giminez I’m sure isn’t there, just a gut play when they move him up against righties. Best risp and 2 outs with risp hitter. Just doesn’t get as many opportunities as he’s had to migrate up lineup over course of year. Obviously I bet those at 30% of game total.
I’ve had the rare winning year this year sticking to Guardians and Dodgers -1.5. Dodgers have gotten so hot those are now —150 when they’re at home and I can’t do that. Should have as they’re going to have a run differential like the 1920s era Yankees teams. I keep sticking some other favorite with them in a parlay and the other team loses while they win by 7.
While I prefer that the wagering stuff goes in the wagering thread, I won't interfere. Already learned the hard way with the Elon Musk thread.
With that said, I am on Cleveland moneyline as well.
That Cleveland kid Freeman responsible for a 2 run swing
With glove and basepaths
Should be 3-0
Bend over
Karinchek warming
What a fail.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
I blame myself. I keep losing super-close ones, as if the universe wants me to lose again after my 10-1 run. That's my third consecutive loss where it was either extra innings or an under losing by 0.5.
Under worked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffWhat a fail.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
I blame myself. I keep losing super-close ones, as if the universe wants me to lose again after my 10-1 run. That's my third consecutive loss where it was either extra innings or an under losing by 0.5.
I never saw an edge for either side, personally. Just randomness
Alcantara vs Dustin May. Can’t wait. Dodgers dismembered that fastball throwing righty recently. His Cy Young dream will be over by Sunday.
Blue Jays celebrate the 30th anniversary of their ‘92 World Series vs the underachieving 90’s Braves today before Ohtani collects another win against them.
Druff must find it hard to believe the Jays have a more recent Championship.
The 90’s Braves were legendary as underachers but their shortcomings don’t hold a candle to the Dodgers.
I had no idea all the controversy that surrounded the Jays and the players from that era. The list of players that are not attending is too long to mention. Prolly cause the Jays are BANNED
As a staunch defender of AGon with the Dodgers it must hurt you to think the Mets are retiring his number instead.
I’m glad you and I can now share some Dodgers nostalgia together.
To be fair, 24 was only his number for 2 years. He's been 23 for most of his career, including during his brief Mets stint.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
Close one, though.
I wish the Dodgers had retired Steve Garvey's number 6. They considered it for many years, but ultimately didn't, and finally used it again for Ron Coomer, of all people.
LaRussa out in Chicago... for now. His doctors told him to stop managing for the time being.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...ource-confirms
I think this is it. Could be a graceful way for him to bow out without being fired.
BCR
Terry Francona tells Guardians players to ‘embrace the moment’ in clubhouse meeting
Updated: Sep. 01, 2022, 6:47 p.m.|Published: Sep. 01, 2022, 5:57 p.m.
Team sleep walks the following game. - dreadful, funny, personally painful.
Completely lifeless.
Knute Rockne he ain’t, apparently
This last series was a preview of why the Dodgers need to worry about the Mets.
Pitching can win the playoffs. Ask the last Dodgers team which won a full season World Series.
The Mets strength is their pitching. The Dodgers can crush them offensively, but when it comes to dominant pitching, the Mets have it. Degrom is back, and looking as good as he was before. Scherzer is somehow still being Scherzer -- though two of his last 3 starts were mediocre. Chris Bassitt is very solid. The back end of the bullpen, with the underrated Adam Ottavino and unhittable Edwin Diaz -- is very hard to crack in the 8th and 9th.
The result? Three close games where Dodgers lost 2 of 3, and they missed Scherzer. To be fair, these were all in New York. But this isn't going to be easy, if these two teams face each other in the NLCS (they can't face each other in the NLDS, given the way the playoff picture will shape up).
The Dodgers have some pretty good starting pitching themselves -- in Urias, the surprising Gonsolin and Anderson, and now Kershaw who's back. And the Mets lack SP depth beyond those top 3, with Carlos Carrasco and David Peterson being their 4/5 guys, but that doesn't matter much in the playoffs. But the Dodgers don't have any shutdown bullpen guys, and somehow they didn't acquire any at the deadline. At the moment they're subsisting with journeyman middle relief guys, which might end up being their undoing.
Dodgers are currently 90-40, 7 games ahead of the Mets for NL's best record, and 6.5 ahead of Houston for MLB's best.
Speaking of pitching, did you see what Braves rookie Spencer Strider did last night? 8IP 2H 0BB 16Ks. That’s filthy even if against the Rockies.
It’s pretty crazy that the Braves will have the top two ROY guys the year after winning the WS. There farm system is now completely depleted though.
They’ve got some pretty good SP depth though this year; and that doesn’t even include Sanlmars guy Jethro Tull who is back down in AAA. It’s a shame they had such a WS hangover at the beginning of the season as that bed-shitting led to a 10.5 game lead for the Mets and that appears to be a insurmountable deficit. Which sucks because you’re right the Mets are finally for real.
Dodgers, Mets, Braves all could win the NL but having to go thru both on the road like the Braves likely will feels impossible.
Can someone explain how Michael Wacha, who sucked for 6 straight seasons, is suddenly really good again?
Roids?
He's not. a .232 BABIP can make anyone look good. His ERA estimators are only slightly better than the last few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
he hasn't changed much with pitch selection or velocity. Literally just batted ball luck. Few more potential home runs caught at the track and etc.
Bump. Braves now have 3rd best record in baseball and tied with Mets although have a +41 run differential compared to Mets. Pretty clear I was right about them being a tier one team. Mets still rightly favored to win the division as their remaining schedule is easier but then again they’ve lost the last three games to the Nats and Pirates by a combined score of 22-4 so not sure they should still be favored. In any event San’s Braves division bet is very live.Quote:
Originally Posted by SheesfacedNot sure I’d classify the Braves as a good team instead of excellent. Defending champs, best record in baseball since June 1st, and starting to get healthy at the right time. Plus somehow every young kid they call up seems to excel and immediately be given a team friendly long-term extension.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Playoff system = joke
Remember last year, when the 106-win Dodgers had to face the Cardinals in a 1-game playoff, then face the 107-win Giants in the NLDS?
This year the Dodgers are almost sure to face either the Mets or Braves in the NLDS (whichever doesn't win the East), unless that team fails to advance in the wildcard series. The winner of the NL East will face the Cardinals or the #3 wildcard. WTF!!!
They really should seed the LDS based upon overall record, and not division titles.
You raise some good points but you also have to consider the winner of the NL East will have just gone through an exhausting end of season race just like the Dodgers and Giants did last season, and furthermore whichever team the Dodgers face will have burned their best pitchers in the WC round while the Dodgers will be able to set their rotation however they choose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Also Scherzer to IL today so the hits keep on coming for the Mets (although it doesn’t sound too serious)
Your objection is rubbish but I understand the playoff scars that you wear. You are frightened and you should be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Remember last year when the wildcard matchup was single game elimination? This year it’s a 3 game series. That’s a heavy handicap for either the Mets or Braves. This of course follows both teams blowing their brains out trying to take the NL East crown.
The NL East regular season race and the NLDS is all that matters in this sport. The rest of the playoffs is kind of a pass. The World Series will be anti-climatic.
Yankees / Blue Jays would be a peculiar kind of fun. The Blue Jays in the playoffs is a perversion but such is baseball under new format.
The Dodgers are like the Harlem Globetrotters or The King and His Court (softball). Barnstorming across America putting on an exhibition in small towns nightly.
I think the King and his Court played with 4 men. (Dodgers play with 3). Eddie Feigner could trick pitch the ball at 100+ mph from 45ft. I have a vague memory of seeing them when I was little on Long Island NY.
Neither the King or the Globetrotters could ever win serious playoff competition. Different game. Fun tho.
Players are repeatedly losing pop ups in the smoke in Seattle (Braves)
They just showed downtown Seattle during a break. Incredible.
New England had some haze this weekend from the west coast. Just the wrong jet stream. Really something
Could Albert have been in the best ever conversation had he never left the Cards? His Angels time was not what it could have been contending every year in the NL Central playing in stadiums like home, Wrigley, Cincy.. This late run is amazing for his age and happy he is passing that dork ARodQuote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
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Originally Posted by Sanlmar
Just when I think you run out of ways to mock Druffs Dodgers, you pull out those gems. Fast Eddie pitching at county fairs to amuse children. That gave me an actual chuckle reducing them to traveling novelty acts
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Originally Posted by BCR:lol3Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
Just when I think you run out of ways to mock Druffs Dodgers, you pull out those gems. Fast Eddie pitching at county fairs to amuse children. That gave me an actual chuckle reducing them to traveling novelty acts
That top 3 they have are a problem for my Padres. To think we had a young Trea Turner makes me want to cry a little. They get cracked in the new and improved playoffs even with their advantage of a 1st round bye. Kershaw and Urias are goingg down this year.