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Yikes, she um doesn't look too good without that makeup imo.
I would love to see Todd interview them though, I would pay to listen or watch that. Victor has ruined the channel but yet they are both in complete denial of that.
This is what it really boils down to for me. Hiding Victor all that time and having Sarah be ambiguous (refuse) to answer relationship status questions to milk the Simps is not a great thing to do but it’s acceptable. Especially in today’s culture where it’s a scam a second, what they did was really small potatoes and a very lucrative decision.
When for whatever reason Sarah no longer wanted to gamble nearly as much….well she still wanted her cake and to eat it too. People may tune into a channel initially to see the gambling but if they don’t connect with the creator/presenter (Even a Sarah/Simp connection), they are not going to keep tuning in. This is when they started to come off like a couple of entitled snobs and it’s been a steady downhill descent ever since.
So now Sarah does her cameo once and a while but is largely absent. She clearly doesn’t even like to gamble. EZ’s videos, as he points put, actually gives her dying channel traffic. Fake break-up with Victor, bring back “Slot Lady” and start churning out that content and everything will be fine.
Or maybe, I dunno, just be honest. People will appreciate the authenticity. I won’t hold my breath.
One thing is for certain, Victor needs to change his attitude during these livestreams or the channel will be on fumes within a year. There are most & more channels coming into the space constantly.
I agree, they need to find not just a pretty but a hot girl with a great personality and make her a partner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Here's the thing if LudyLuck can make over 60k per MONTH with less than half the number of subs as slot lady there is absolutely no reason for them to not figure this out and make it work.
Im feeling generous so I will give them an idea. Bring in a new girl and present her as Victors new girlfriend and that Sarah and Vic are fighting over the channel because they separated and Vic has a new girl. People love drama for what ever reason.
If there not going to bring in another girl they need to sell it. This could be a huge opportunity for someone to take over a channel and put the right female as the face of the channel and it will be wildly successful.
I think they are having financial issues and need to take time off in order to get the revenue to play with. If they are spending 30k per month gambling, they shouldn't have much living expenses as the casinos will take care of Room/food/beverage. There already in Vegas, why not play? Because they are likely out of cash. I'm wondering if Victor is a massive degenerate off camera.
The thing that is currently keeping them "afloat" is the past videos. They are getting YouTube revenue from 2200 videos. Victors recent videos may not be getting that many views but the channel is still averaging 85,000 views PER DAY, 2.5 million views per month. This is still excellent money. There is no reason that Slotladys CPM is going to be that far off from Ladylucks CPM. Even when Sarah took the break during the pandemic and stayed in Canada she let it be known that she had YouTube income from over 2000 videos. LudyLucks income should now easily be over 100k per month as she has grew alot in the past year. Spend just half of your YouTube income on -EV games to get YouTube content and the rest is yours. This is assuming no special sponsorships from the casinos.
From what I understand if you stop uploading, YouTube slowly stops recommending your videos. If they blow this opportunity, they are retards.
Lots of comments on social media absolve Sarah of any responsibility by implying she is under Victor’s control or influence and that she has little, or no, agency in the situation.
The truth is she is not passive in any of this. Sarah is a horrible, horrible person.
They are obviously a couple and Victor has been a part of her channel from the very beginning. It is also obvious that Victor has a gambling problem. Sarah must know this. This is now the second time since Victor started doing most of the gambling that they have had to make a public announcement about reducing content due to cash constraints. This didn’t happened before Victor got his hands on the chips. Coincidence?
At best, Sarah is an enabler.
At worst, she is a piece of trash who would rather her own partner get further into the grip of his addiction than actually step up and do some work on her “business”. If you watch any of their joint livestreams, you'll notice that she loves to condescendingly make fun of how mad Victor gets when they're losing or to try to control him and tell him when to stop on a particular machine, etc. Both just embarrass Victor publicly. But she doesn't care what it makes him look like and doesn't care that he is back in an addicted state.
Even though she rarely appears on camera any more, Sarah certainly didn’t just want to step away from the channel and will never give up control to anyone, especially not to an attractive female. She believes the channel is still her actual work product and that she is the queen bee in charge. Whenever she behaves all indignant, it’s not because she is being controlled, but because she has been rightfully called out on something and doesn’t have any real response. She obviously cares a lot about maintaining some bullshit image, which is why she leaned into the “hot YouTuber” hashtag, deletes any comment she doesn’t like and has a sassy reaction to anything anyone says to her. She cares a great deal, just not about anything of substance.
Sarah, I hope that you are reading this and that Victor gets the help that he needs. Hope that helps.
PS. Does anyone actually believe they’re on “vacation” for the exact amount of time until YouTube and Facebook money comes in? Not only was Sarah active on social media all of yesterday after posting her thirsty photo, but they’re still posting old content on Facebook under the guise of “it’s a different audience than YouTube”. That’s clearly a lie. They are just monetizing old videos on a new platform because it is a new source of money, which the channel desperately needs now that Victor has gambled their money away. It’s almost as if the pair are allergic to telling the truth.
PPS. If anyone still doubts how nasty Sarah actually is, watch any of Victor’s livestreams when she is in the chat. Her and her group of mean girls gang up and go after anyone who dares say anything she doesn’t like. The simps love it, but Sarah behaves like a thin-skinned, immature child. There’s a reason views and memberships are down and it’s not all because of Victor.
Anyone familiar with the American Casino Guide guys?
It seems that they were heavy on video poker and all a sudden the son is playing slots…he needs to worry about getting some Rogaine or shaving his head instead.
So Brian Christopher has his own non-smoking section at the Plaza, named after him?
Wow.
https://twitter.com/VitalVegas/statu...79320045166592
Is All Casino Action tour guides now? They seem awfully cozy together.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CcT6TibJ...d=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Really great video from EZ. Check it out. I’ll expound on my thoughts in a later post. No spoilers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6kvHMNGPjw
Online casinos ruin lives. When EZ shows BC winning these obviously prosperous jackpots he is providing a great service to anyone who watches gambling content on YouTube. For BC to present videos to his followers of how easily he is winning 10s of thousands of “dollars” is fucking revolting.
It is one thing if you want to play slots at a casino and make content. I am even okay with negotiating rebates with the casinos on losses. Big players are able to negotiate such deals and I feel it is pretty analogous to someone posting videos that promote the casino.
But fake online jackpots crosses a major line. Now people won’t get the room, the comps, the experience, etc. They will simply load their money on this shady unregulated website and lose their fucking asses. No room, no food, just mountains & mountains of debt because they trusted this fuckstick BC that he was winning life changing money.
Promoting unregulated online casinos is scummy enough. What BC is doing is going to ruin lives. Fuck him.
you have to wonder at 2 "influencers" going to a steakhouse and posting 0 pics of steaks. It's on brand with the cubic necklace, pleather jacket, fake and disgustingly grown out dirty nails, and the cherry on the sundae, that joyless expression. Also, i remember she said she doesn't really eat and stopped drinking. Too bad she and squirrely victor can't cash in on all their lies and afford a proper non-comped day or night out worthy of the gram
I’ve been following American Casino Guide for many years and have always found their content to be very informative. I even bought the book a few times to keep up with the latest on what casinos were offering what games. I don’t understand however why they are now going down the “slot community” rabbit hole. This is not who they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElmoAnyone familiar with the American Casino Guide guys?
It seems that they were heavy on video poker and all a sudden the son is playing slots…he needs to worry about getting some Rogaine or shaving his head instead.
So much for "taking a break". All casino action just posted a blackjack video. We all know he's a degenerate and degens can't take a break unless 13 days is considered a "break"
Some people can be just plain nasty. They never said that they were taking a long break. Sure they have their problems, but if you don't like their style, don't watch them.Quote:
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I was curious how their Patreon was doing... ouch. I remember it was over 100 patreons in the glory days, was 80ish once Victor came around I want to say... 47 now. Even more cringy they still have the "Wishing Well - a girl can dream can't she?" level. Victor can dream... and be disappointed. PS: I'm in Canada is why it shows in CAD I'd assume.
Come on Victor, you gotta do better than this explanation. There's a such thing as researching and seeing the thumbnails without watching the video. Anyways, nice to see you on here Victor. Tell Sarah we said hi 🙋*♂️Quote:
Originally Posted by PDenSome people can be just plain nasty. They never said that they were taking a long break. Sure they have their problems, but if you don't like their style, don't watch them.Quote:
Originally Posted by K_Nguyen
I can assure you I am not Victor. Nor am I Canadian. I have watched their three gambling clips since their little vacation at Luxor, and I think it did them some good. Victor has mellowed somewhat, and I think he has taken the advice of many who told him to tone down the whinging and modify his attitude a bit. I met both Sarah and Victor at the El Cortez a couple of years ago, and both were friendly and easy to chat with.Quote:
Originally Posted by K_NguyenCome on Victor, you gotta do better than this explanation. There's a such thing as researching and seeing the thumbnails without watching the video. Anyways, nice to see you on here Victor. Tell Sarah we said hi ��*♂️Quote:
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Originally Posted by PDenI can assure you I am not Victor. Nor am I Canadian. I have watched their three gambling clips since their little vacation at Luxor, and I think it did them some good. Victor has mellowed somewhat, and I think he has taken the advice of many who told him to tone down the whinging and modify his attitude a bit. I met both Sarah and Victor at the El Cortez a couple of years ago, and both were friendly and easy to chat with.Quote:
Originally Posted by K_Nguyen
Ok then, you must be Sara...or one of the SIMPs that follow her mindlessly.
I can't be Sara, I already told you I am not Canadian. Please pay attention, and I have no idea what a SIMPs is. I have not heard that expression in my Country, please explain what it means.Quote:
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Originally Posted by PDen
Ok then, you must be Sara...or one of the SIMPs that follow her mindlessly.
Sucker Idolizing Mediocre Pussy.Quote:
Originally Posted by PDenI can't be Sara, I already told you I am not Canadian. Please pay attention, and I have no idea what a SIMPs is. I have not heard that expression in my Country, please explain what it means.Quote:
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That is an interesting acronym, however I can assure you that does not apply in my case. Their channel is just one of many I watch when I need my Las Vegas fix. I have not been able to leave my Country for over two years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cerveza FriaSucker Idolizing Mediocre Pussy.Quote:
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Originally Posted by PDenSome people can be just plain nasty. They never said that they were taking a long break. Sure they have their problems, but if you don't like their style, don't watch them.Quote:
Originally Posted by K_Nguyen
Dude you are a sick degen and you ruined Sarah's channel.
Victor you live in Vegas now, GA is your friend. There are meetings every hour. Go find some.
Another great video by EZ. All I will say is that taking 20% off for taxes on group pulls is just straight up stealing. These stolen funds should be returned to the participants immediately. Anyone who has dealt with gambling and taxes knows basically how it works. This is great stuff by EZ…
Ohh and one more thing…DONT EVER PARTICIPATE IN A GROUP PULL!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ozjoZXOUFU
I agree, this guy taking 20% off the top of the group pull winnings for taxes is bullshit.
Hold on, I know some of you are thinking "well someone has to pay the taxes". Out of the thousands of dollars he took for "taxes" from these group pull members, zero dollars will get paid out of that amount to the government in taxes.
There are so many issues with this. Obviously if you are running a slot channel filming high limit almost daily slot play, you will lose 6 figures yearly. The only way this guy or any other high limit slot channel nets a single dollar in a calendar year for slot play is if they hit a jackpot well into 6 figures. Slot play alone, not counting YouTube revenue.
Playing a slot machine with an 8% house edge daily, there is virtually no chance in hell you will show a net win for the year off hitting 4 or even the occasional 5 figure W2G slot win.
Hes going to try to justify it by saying there is a possibility he may have a net win for the year so he must collect it. If he doesn't pay it to the IRS, he will return it? Big fat LOL to that.
Putting all the above aside. He is a business. Entertainment business. When he collects money for a "Group Pull" (No, Chrissy Mitchell, not that kind of group pull) that money is documented on his books. Then when he pays out the money, in this case it happens to be a higher amount paid out than originally paid in. In this situation from an accounting and tax viewpoint, he is just the "middleman". This is no different than an agent in sports wagering. you are the "middleman" responsible for collecting and paying winnings. If someone bets $1,000 to win $900, as the middleman you pay them the $900, you don't take an additional 20% for taxes on top.
Bottom line, as a business he has a paper trail for what was collected as well as what is paid out.
He knows exactly what he is doing, and that is to siphon an extra 5 figures from these people.
Also, if he wanted to be upfront, he could of had them tax his winnings and pay the federal withholding right then. It would still be bad but not as bad.
I hope YouTube pulls his channel for this.
And LOL at the general idea of a "Group Pull". What retarded broke Moron came up with this nonsense? So 100 people put In $100 each. 1 person can play a $1 machine, then you don't have to split it between 99 other people when half want to stop and half want to keep playing. The retardedness in these people is incredible.
Another reason this jackass didn't lay down the rules of his group pull ahead of time is so he can freeroll the. If he is robbing them for 20% hes going to want to keep playing. Why stop when even or slightly up?
This infuriates me just thinking about it...
Some people just cannot accept the truth. What part of I am not Canadian, I do not live in the USA, I am not Victor, I am not Sarah, don't you understand. I just watch their channel, and other Las Vegas related channels that I enjoy.Quote:
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Originally Posted by PDen
Dude you are a sick degen and you ruined Sarah's channel.
Victor you live in Vegas now, GA is your friend. There are meetings every hour. Go find some.
Great post PV as usual really breaking down the stuff so well. This is so cut and dry. The group pull is a way for the creator to raise funds. I am sure some channels try and do it the right way, but I agree with EZ they shouldn’t be allowed to do them at all.
The general rules of the group pull also need to be stated upfront. It looks like this guy Filthy is going to make a response video. If that video is some kind of rationalization & discussion about taxes he will only further dig himself into the hole.
The only thing I can think he may say he is up so much money he “may” not be an overall loser come December 2022. Then what? He will give people the stolen money at that point? Bullshit. Unless he hits something huge this guy will offset any winnings with losses on his 2022 return and pay $0 in tax.
Return the funds ASAP. If not, I would say to the people who had funds stolen to start to report this wherever you can.
Hypothetically if this Filthy Scam Artist Slot Guy is up money gambling for the year at the point of time he is doing a “group pull”…
A) It is irrelevant to whether he will have tax liability at year’s end.
B) To conflate his possible, yet unlikely, personal tax liability as a reason to skim 20% of the participants money is morally & ethically bankrupt.
C) How about have the woman he’s with play if you are up so much money? Why even have Group Pulls if you are going to skim money if people win?
It is really amazing what is going on in this space.
This is like attacking a witness to a crime for reporting the crime. There is no defense for this guy’s actions. Better get that money to the people very very fast. EZ is showing the truth to the naive people you have duped. Return the money and apologize…don’t let this fester.
This would be my recommendation to dirty slot guy to 100% eliminate the chance of him "getting stuck with the group pulls taxes".
He needs to have 2 separate businesses on paper:
1st business is his "Dirty Slot Guy LLC". This is his slot play and his play only.
What ever money he wins or loses in the calendar year is delt with on its own.
2nd business "Group Pulls LLC" would be separate for accounting purposes. This accounting is what ever is paid In by members for group pulls, then documents what ever is paid out to members for winnings. In theory there is zero dollars "profited" by Group Pulls LLC. At the end of the year. You issue 1099 forms to each member and let them pay their own taxes. So this way If Group pulls LLC won a million dollars it would be paid out to members with 1099 forms to cover themself, so the members would then be responsible for the taxes on the million dollar win not Mr. Dirty guy.
By separating the businesses there is no comingling of funds and paying someone else's tax as well as double taxation.
If he or any slot channel is going to continuously do these pulls they need to set it up properly and as JD said lay out all the rules upfront. Members don't want surprises or shadiness.
Under the tax code, the people he paid out are supposed to pay taxes on their winnings. So under his theory taxes get paid twice (if he were to actually pay, which he won't). Now, will these winners claim this money on their tax return? Probably not, but that is another issue.
He is already getting a huge benefit for doing group pulls. He is getting free content for YouTube without spending his own money. So in theory a high limit slot channel can easily spend $1,000 per video playing -EV slot machines. This cock sucker doesn't need to get them for another 20% on top of that.
Another thing, if he keeps doing these group pulls, obviously for the calendar year these group pulls are losing much more than they are winning. I guarantee he is going to use these losses to his advantage on his taxes even though it wasn't his money.
For example let's say he lost 200k on slots, lost another 50k on group pulls and makes 250k from YouTube ad revenue. For the year without the 50k group pull loss he would be up 50k as a business (200k slot loss plus 250k YouTube revenue). But since he will without a doubt use that 50k group pull loss it will put him breakeven for the year, when that extra 50k loss was not his to use.
He needs to pay the money back and change his business structure going forward and separate everything for accounting and tax purposes.
Look at an investment broker that manages people's investment. If he doubles someone's investment he doesn't take 20% to pay taxes because his own personal investments may be doing well and somehow the 2 get comingled. He has a mess on his hands.
These people would have a good case in small claims court. Pretty cut and dry.
EDIT: I just realized it's "Filthy" not "Dirty" lol I don't want to change each time I used the word.
An oldie but goodie is back. Mr cool himself, Jason Sample
https://youtu.be/eaXXHoLrxfA
Looks like the conditions of his post release prison bid are up, and he is now free to be involved in gambling related money making ventures again, as previously he was in violation.Quote:
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For anyone wondering, PDen is not Victor. He's not even in the US (or Canada).
Thank you Dan Druff for not revealing my identity or where I live. That will happen in its own time if necessary. All I have really been doing is conducting a little experiment on how easy it is for people to get sucked in to believing what they want to believe, whether it is the truth or not. I have been following Slotlady's page, and other Las Vegas related pages for a long time, and had the opportunity to meet her in the lobby of the El Cortez a few years ago. She took the time to talk to an elderly man (me) and was very pleasant. She also introduced me to a man who I thought was her assistant as he had all her photography gear. She had mentioned several times on her channel that she was single, and I had thought nothing of it. They were just waiting for transport to go to another casino to record some gaming. It was none of my business who he was, or what his relationship with her was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Having had the opportunity to meet her I was just a little taken back by some of the nasty comments about her and Victor, and their channel and how they run it, that I have read on here and on another channel, where that particular person seems to take great delight in slamming any channel which doesn't fall into his way of thinking. So please just let me say that it is my belief that in order to survive in this world, people need money. How they get it or what they do is their business. As long as it causes no physical or psycological hurt to others, what business is it to their detractors how they earn it? How someone markets their product is their business. If you don't like it, don't get involved. I would dare to say that just about ever person reading this, at some time in their life has done, something by way of opportunity, and with a bit of clever thinking, has been able to secure a benefit or remuneration for their effort. It doesn't necessarily make it a scam.
As for their personal life, again it is none of our business. What they do, and who they do it with should have nothing to do with us, unless they choose to invite us into that part of their life. Then we should respect their privacy. She has said in the past there were a few shady people annoying/stalking her. She also made it quite clear she did not welcome these people into her life. So why can't we just be decent enough to leave her alone if you don't appreciate what she or Victor do? Its not really that hard. You don't have to make nasty comments and assume what they are doing is wrong. if you don't like it, simply delete their page from your computer.
Since this is the Scams forum, that's what's being discussed. It's becoming apparent more & more that most (if not all) of these slots/gambling streamers/youtubers are being PAID by the casinos which is DISHONEST since their audiences are not being told this fact. Informing people who might be potential viewers and supporters who might eventually debate donating to these people need to be informed before they give their hard-earned money away to people who aren't being 100% honest about their incomes. That is, of course, unless you enjoy watching people give their hard-earned money to youtubers/streamers who give them the façade that they are friends?Quote:
Originally Posted by PDenThank you Dan Druff for not revealing my identity or where I live. That will happen in its own time if necessary. All I have really been doing is conducting a little experiment on how easy it is for people to get sucked in to believing what they want to believe, whether it is the truth or not. I have been following Slotlady's page, and other Las Vegas related pages for a long time, and had the opportunity to meet her in the lobby of the El Cortez a few years ago. She took the time to talk to an elderly man (me) and was very pleasant. She also introduced me to a man who I thought was her assistant as he had all her photography gear. She had mentioned several times on her channel that she was single, and I had thought nothing of it. They were just waiting for transport to go to another casino to record some gaming. It was none of my business who he was, or what his relationship with her was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Having had the opportunity to meet her I was just a little taken back by some of the nasty comments about her and Victor, and their channel and how they run it, that I have read on here and on another channel, where that particular person seems to take great delight in slamming any channel which doesn't fall into his way of thinking. So please just let me say that it is my belief that in order to survive in this world, people need money. How they get it or what they do is their business. As long as it causes no physical or psycological hurt to others, what business is it to their detractors how they earn it? How someone markets their product is their business. If you don't like it, don't get involved. I would dare to say that just about ever person reading this, at some time in their life has done, something by way of opportunity, and with a bit of clever thinking, has been able to secure a benefit or remuneration for their effort. It doesn't necessarily make it a scam.
As for their personal life, again it is none of our business. What they do, and who they do it with should have nothing to do with us, unless they choose to invite us into that part of their life. Then we should respect their privacy. She has said in the past there were a few shady people annoying/stalking her. She also made it quite clear she did not welcome these people into her life. So why can't we just be decent enough to leave her alone if you don't appreciate what she or Victor do? Its not really that hard. You don't have to make nasty comments and assume what they are doing is wrong. if you don't like it, simply delete their page from your computer.
Their personal lives are being brought into question because in many cases these youtubers are being revealed to be LIARS and SCAMMERS. All I see is people starting to put the puzzle together. If these youtubers/streamers are gambling with funds the casino paid them then their audience deserves to know that instead of being shady & pretending like they're just trust fund babies wasting away their own money. It's disingenuous & DECEITFUL to hide the fact that the casino is paying you to gamble at their establishment. It's predatory marketing practices and it should be called out to protect people from giving away their money or falsely believing "well this streamer won at this casino so maybe I can too!". Then when they start having problems getting along or one person is trying to screw over another person and they decide to make posts LYING about why they're not "active" right now, its going to raise suspicions.
That's the price you pay for exposing yourself to the online world as a youtuber/streamer and want to make $100k+ annually. People want to know when they're being lied to, preyed upon or screwed over.
El Cortez is 100% paying ACA's channel to be a promoter for them. Doesn't take a genius to see that's literally the ONLY casino they ever gamble in on stream or video.
Sarah may have been cordial to you, sir. I don't know her so I can't say one way or the other how she is. But I can tell you this from my experience with streamers.
As long as the money's flowing, they're fantastic actors/actresses. Once the money stops, you see them for who they truly are as a person.
The slot streaming is fine, as long as it accurately represents the win/loss pattern of the streamer, or if the streamer admits that he/she is intentionally showing more wins than losses.
If you're being paid by a casino to stream/record from there, it's especially bad if you misrepresent your results, as you're basically misleading people into chunking off their bankrolls in exchange for being paid by the casino to do so.
I haven't watched many of SlotLady/ACA's videos. I have seen some losing ones, so I'll give them credit for showing at least some bad sessions. My biggest issue with them was the dishonesty regarding Victor's involvement. If you want to put your pretty girlfriend front-and-center so you get more clicks, that's fine. If you want to hide in the background, fine. However, if she's going to directly solicit donations to the channel, and you're hiding specifically so the simps donate with the belief that they might have a chance with her, then it gets into unethical territory. It's additionally unethical to refuse to address your relationship status once the truth is discovered.
Had Victor and Sarah simply come out and said, "Yes, we presented just Sarah for marketing reasons, and in hindsight, she probably should have been clearer about the fact that she was in a relationship the entire time. But yes, we have been together the entire time the channel has been running, and going forward we are going to do the content together", then I would have had a lot more respect for them.
As far as I am aware Sarah and Victor have both always said in the past that it is their money they use to gamble with. If they are being paid by the casino to promote their casino, and are paid for it, then it is money earned. I have no idea if they are actually handed a fist full of money by the casino as a pretense, and told to go gamble with it. That I imagine would be pretty hard to prove. If they are being comped accommodation and other benefits and living expenses by the casino for promoting the place, then that is part of the deal they have in place with that establishment. We all like to get comps and other freebies when we can. No doubt that you probably receive some kind of benefits some how from running this site, as it would probably be almost a full time job for you. And, good for you. You have found your niche. That is what they have done.Quote:
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I have no idea what their personal relationship is, and it is none of my business. All I know is that Sarah tends to keep her private life, exactly that. From some of the comments I have seen on her channels, she has always indicted that she was not married. That is not the same thing as having a boyfriend, or being in a relationship with one. I have noticed that she tends to ignore personal questions, and that it her right to do so. If people are gullible enough to think that flicking her a couple of bucks in a chat line is going to win her heart, then more fool them. They found a way to market themselves, in a way that worked for them. Time will tell if they continue to be successful now that people are actually saying that Victor and Sarah are a couple. Maybe even some of her stalkers and weirdos might leave her alone. As I said in a previous post, every one has some kind of hustle going at some time in their life.
I think people underestimate the power of monetization. There is a slot youtuber named Lady luck, she seems to be legit and the more respected ones but she is pretty transparent about everything and even revealed her earnings from youtube the past year. I believe she made somehwere around $350k if I remember but I could be a little off. Her videos normally get around 75-100k views. Pretty good return if ya ask me, but she does gamble super high stakes for slots.
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Originally Posted by PDenAs far as I am aware Sarah and Victor have both always said in the past that it is their money they use to gamble with. If they are being paid by the casino to promote their casino, and are paid for it, then it is money earned. I have no idea if they are actually handed a fist full of money by the casino as a pretense, and told to go gamble with it. That I imagine would be pretty hard to prove. If they are being comped accommodation and other benefits and living expenses by the casino for promoting the place, then that is part of the deal they have in place with that establishment. We all like to get comps and other freebies when we can. No doubt that you probably receive some kind of benefits some how from running this site, as it would probably be almost a full time job for you. And, good for you. You have found your niche. That is what they have done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
I have no idea what their personal relationship is, and it is none of my business. All I know is that Sarah tends to keep her private life, exactly that. From some of the comments I have seen on her channels, she has always indicted that she was not married. That is not the same thing as having a boyfriend, or being in a relationship with one. I have noticed that she tends to ignore personal questions, and that it her right to do so. If people are gullible enough to think that flicking her a couple of bucks in a chat line is going to win her heart, then more fool them. They found a way to market themselves, in a way that worked for them. Time will tell if they continue to be successful now that people are actually saying that Victor and Sarah are a couple. Maybe even some of her stalkers and weirdos might leave her alone. As I said in a previous post, every one has some kind of hustle going at some time in their life.
You might not be Victor, but you come across as someone who knows Victor and Sarah very well and have been asked by them to come into this thread to try and make them both seem like good honest people. This whole thing you about how you met her once and how wonderful she is? C'mon pal.
Look you can call me a conspiracy theorist but as others have mentioned, this is a scams and shadiness forum and those 2 fit right in here.
So please dude, your constant fawning over both of them at least to me doesn't add up and is nauseating.
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Originally Posted by PDen
You might not be Victor, but you come across as someone who knows Victor and Sarah very well and have been asked by them to come into this thread to try and make them both seem like good honest people. This whole thing you about how you met her once and how wonderful she is? C'mon pal.
Look you can call me a conspiracy theorist but as others have mentioned, this is a scams and shadiness forum and those 2 fit right in here.
So please dude, your constant fawning over both of them at least to me doesn't add up and is nauseating.
It is amazing how some people just cannot accept the truth of what I have said. Please show me where I said how wonderful she is. I wrote this before. "She took the time to talk to an elderly man (me) and was very pleasant." That is the only time I have spoken to either of them, and the conversation lasted between 5 and 10 minutes. Before Covid, I used to travel to the USA once a year, staying between 4 to 6 weeks and base myself in Downtown Las Vegas, because I like playing poker and blackjack. I find accommodation costs are cheaper Downtown, and I don't need fancy high class and expensive establishments when I travel alone. I was staying at El Cortez, and as I walked through the lobby area, I noticed a couple with photographic equipment. The female looked like Sarah from the Slotlady, a Las Vegas channel I often watch, so I walked up to her and asked her if she was Sarah. She said she was, I introduced myself and she introduced the male person she was with. As he was holding the photographic equipment, I assumed he was her assistant. That is it, my entire interaction with either of them. I still watch their channel, along with several other channels. I have never donated any money to any channel. I am not fawning over them. I am simply playing "Devils Advocate" that they have a right to do as they please. If you don't like it, don't get involved. Sex sells, just look at any advertisement in magazines or on TV. Some people may find her attractive and that is their right to give her a donation if they wish. Just don't be nasty about it.
Now that my Country has opened its International Borders and I am free to travel, I will be arriving in Las Vegas on May 29 for just under a 5 week stay, including staying at the El Cortez for a week. Hopefully I will have the chance to talk to them or other channel operators during my stay in Las Vegas. Have a nice day.
You're actually correct about that last part. Had they been honest from the start about being in a long-term relationship, that one creepy stalker of hers might not have developed his obsession. I assume that dude was one of the main reasons Sarah quit being the sole face of the channel, and brought Victor in. Prior to that, it looked like she was about done with the whole thing. (By the way, I'm not defending the stalker in any way. The dude comes off like an unhinged psycho.)Quote:
Originally Posted by PDenAs far as I am aware Sarah and Victor have both always said in the past that it is their money they use to gamble with. If they are being paid by the casino to promote their casino, and are paid for it, then it is money earned. I have no idea if they are actually handed a fist full of money by the casino as a pretense, and told to go gamble with it. That I imagine would be pretty hard to prove. If they are being comped accommodation and other benefits and living expenses by the casino for promoting the place, then that is part of the deal they have in place with that establishment. We all like to get comps and other freebies when we can. No doubt that you probably receive some kind of benefits some how from running this site, as it would probably be almost a full time job for you. And, good for you. You have found your niche. That is what they have done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
I have no idea what their personal relationship is, and it is none of my business. All I know is that Sarah tends to keep her private life, exactly that. From some of the comments I have seen on her channels, she has always indicted that she was not married. That is not the same thing as having a boyfriend, or being in a relationship with one. I have noticed that she tends to ignore personal questions, and that it her right to do so. If people are gullible enough to think that flicking her a couple of bucks in a chat line is going to win her heart, then more fool them. They found a way to market themselves, in a way that worked for them. Time will tell if they continue to be successful now that people are actually saying that Victor and Sarah are a couple. Maybe even some of her stalkers and weirdos might leave her alone. As I said in a previous post, every one has some kind of hustle going at some time in their life.
However, I can't agree with you about anything else. Whether she's married is/was immaterial. She is in a long term relationship which somewhat resembles a marriage. She's as unavailable as a married woman. It is very clear that Victor was hidden away because they figured that implying she was single was a way to better tips (and they were probably right!)
This isn't the worst transgression. Nobody was directly cheated in any way. Nobody forced these simps to donate, and Sarah never directly claimed she was single, nor did she ever imply that any of those simp viewers had a chance with her. However, it was still intentionally misleading.
The biggest problem was the dumb coverup. Once the truth got out, she should have just stepped forward, been honest about everything, and moved on. Instead, we got a lot of indignant attitude that nobody had a right to ask these questions in the first place.
I'm not really worried about the (likely) possibility of the El Cortez paying them, because that's pretty standard for all of these streamers, and Sarah/Victor indeed show losing sessions.
@PDEN. I don’t have much to add from what Druff has said. Easy money comes with a cost. What Victor & Sarah set-up was inevitably going to bring these creeps out. Even the name “Slot Lady” is a double entendre. You don’t need to be Colombo to know that all this was premeditated ( probably mostly by Victor).
This doesn’t make them bad people. I don’t think they even really talk about how this was all set-up in the first place. Sarah wants to be this serious business woman who knows about “corporate structure”. They just can’t embrace the reality of the situation. They signed up for this.
I am sure there are worse things she has dealt with that the public is not privy to. But again, they signed up for this. You want the easy money, you will have to pay the cost in other ways. It’s just the way it is. It’s the times we live in that allow them to do what they do. With that comes all the negative stuff as well.
I’m glad you find enjoyment in their content and have every right to defend them. But it won’t stop people from taking shots. They are public figures and that is just how it goes.