You're right, but the chance of your child being killed at school in a civilized country is zero.Quote:
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You're right, but the chance of your child being killed at school in a civilized country is zero.Quote:
Originally Posted by BetCheckBet
You're right. Americans, collectively, deserve the situation they are in. They can do something about it, yet refuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max PowerHongkonger, Max Power finds this statement to be disgusting. You basically just said children deserved to die. A child of God never deserves to be murdered, liberal.Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkonger
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Originally Posted by hongkongerYou're right. Americans, collectively, deserve the situation they are in. They can do something about it, yet refuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Power
Enlighten us.
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Originally Posted by blake
As you say, there really isn't a good, viable solution. With regard to confiscating all of the guns, the horse is already out of the barn and not returning, so there is that. As for a tax increase, ok, I guess, but most schools already have armed security in them, or at least ours do. So adding more might help a little with deterrence, but truth be told if you want to hurt a bunch of people you will find another way, say for instance at a shopping mall at lunch, etc. If you want to close the gun show loop holes, go ahead, fine by me and most folks but I'm here to tell you that it isn't the folks at those shows who you should be afraid of. Finally, blaming Trump is just silly; recall that Obama had both houses of Congress for a couple of years and he didn't' attempt to do anything about guns. Again, the problem is much deeper than what is being discussed.
Lots of people are pushing for more of these surprise attack drills run at schools to prepare students and teachers. Apparently some schools don't even notify the teachers beforehand. Everyone should be notified before one of these drills is run. The surprise element is terrifying and unnecessary I think eventually a student or teacher will try to be a hero and hit the fake shooter with a baseball bat or whatever blunt object is near and the rest of kids will dog pile and beat him. Maybe even some kid whose sick of mass school shootings will start sneaking a knife into his book bag and actually murder one of the fake shooters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7axdOBFmdK4
There is no way in hell I'd send my kid to a school that ran these terrifying drills. New home-school enrollment has to be through the roof these days. Hongkonger is right. If you have school age kids it's heartless of you to not leave the country if you aren't going to home-school.
He is 100% brainwashed.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_LurkerQuote:
Originally Posted by Max Power
Don't be mad at Druff, it's not his fault. Fox news told him to say those things.
why is it that other countries around the world don't have regular mass killings in their schools by bombing or vehicles?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
It's super easy to build a bomb and plant them all over a school, way way easier than grabbing a gun and spraying everyone.
to answer your question, because they "other countries" don't effectively hand out weapons of mass destruction along side the coca-cola.Quote:
Originally Posted by phantomwhy is it that other countries around the world don't have regular mass killings in their schools by bombing or vehicles?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Only elaborating for the ignorant masses afflicted by this disease
further to your point/my point.
America has become the land of the intellectual retard.
"we rule the seas" so why bother
It's so apparent to onlookers that the U.S. is full of fat lazy
pigs who slop up whatever is slopped to them.
literally a laughing stock
enlighten u.s. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by TellafriendQuote:
Originally Posted by hongkonger
Enlighten us.
max power rep
Lol the pos was a 130 lb pos cock sucking nerd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
he took a uber to the fcking school so no i don't think this pussy would of blew up the school with a car bomb cuz the spic didnt even have a car
Some great American should kill his half brother with a good old fashion Louisville Slugger cuz word on the street is hes a pos spic to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZIzD0ZfTFg
Fuck yea we do deserve it, we disrespected and ignored our ancestors and now look who owns the media and big pharma. We shouldn't be surprised our media ignores the 115 people who OD on opioids daily because Jewish billionaire Sackler and his company Purdue pharma knowingly lied about their product, lobbied aka bribed our lawmakers and media via the purchase of advertising. That's six school shooting every single day, ignored! It's also no surprise that their solution the media offers doesn't mention their role in the two leading causes One is massive immigration that alienates the youth the other is this big pharma.Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkongerYou're right. Americans, collectively, deserve the situation they are in. They can do something about it, yet refuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Power
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyI9wbL0WT0
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I look at the shooter I just know that dude has a cabinet filled with psych meds or as the media says " he was being treated for depression, schizophrenia or whatever". It's also no surprise that the stem cell treatment Mel Gibson was talking about is illegal. It's really hard wrap your head around the totality of corruption.Quote:
I was on prozac from ages 12 to 19. My first year in university I stopped cold turkey because I was still as miserable as when I started. I was a loner, I didn't socialize, I was messed up at the time. I kid you not, for three weeks, I had fantasies of grabbing a gun and shooting up my cafeteria. I was terrified and stayed in doors outside of class until it passed which it finally did. That was almost ten years ago. I'm convinced in retrospect that the prozac had been suppressing my anger and when I went off it that anger, which had been building up all along my teenage years, exploded all at once and caused those fantasies, which included tourettes like outburst, wanting to point my finger at people like a gun out of nowhere etc... I've since completely recovered from my depression using ayahuasca, so everything is fine now.
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Originally Posted by blakei don't get what you're saying here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordman
a person absolutely CAN walk into a gun store and buy an assault rifle. are you contending that they're illegal in the US cause they're not. you then go on to say that you own zero assault rifles but own several AR's... which are assault rifles.
did you mean you can't legally get fully automatic machine guns? i don't think any of the mass shootings lately have been with fully automatic weapons
I just checked in now. I just hot home a little bit ago and i am frickin tired. I have much to address maybe later on or tomorrow, but ill touch on your comment because its easy.
Blake - Pretty much literally everything you just said IS WRONG. Im not trying to be a dick here and frankly i think you are one of the more level headed people when it comes to debating etc, but you are wrong. The media is wrong as well, which is pretty likely where you got your info from.
Once again, you CANNOT legally purchase an assault rifle in this country ( there are certain very rare instances, but they are VERY RARE)
AN AR-15 is NOT an assault rifle. I dont give a shit who tells you otherwise. The government has already addressed this decades ago and even made laws about it. I dont care what media outlet or whoever it is claims the weapons are assault rifles, but they do not know what the hell they are talking about.
Some may think im arguing semantics, but there is a big reason why i drive this point home which i will touch on more probably tomorrow. Even police and some "government" officials still incorrectly coin the term. There have already been laws before the 80s and 90s that ban assault rifles.
An assault rifle has been clearly defined as a weapon which has selective fire - semi auto and full auto. There are some big reasons why i touch on this topic and drive this misleading term home as best i can. I will touch on this more tomorrow.
The "assault weapons ban" of the 90's was a load of horseshit. It more or less banned certain rifles of having certain ergonomic/cosmetic parts. I could still legally buy an AR 15 during tjis supposed ban. I know because when i was young and a couple years out of high school, there was a nice shing black one sitting on the shelf of my local sporting goods store which was around 99 -00. I was almost ready to buy it but i had other things i chose to spend my money on. The only thing that rifle lacked was certain ergonomic parts (example: an adjustable stock). Its laughable.
Look, do some searching. Dont get your info from the media
For being non assault riffles they sure are doing a lot of assaulting.
lol I didn't even read this post but replied to replies of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
This op is considered an educated American. This educated American cannot see through his indoctrinated blindness.
Almost too much to comprehend. You'd swear these were the words of a back water hillbilly. But no.
And he is allowed to vote.
Let's add another factor to site owner's opinion. OK, no guns available, guy or gal goes nuts and is out for blood.
Does the perpetrator Google "How to blow up everything"?
Chances are they use whatever is at hand to carry out their desire.
Crime of passion, right or wrong, dictates it's carried out spontaneously.
Post crime, how many mass murderers in the U.S. are not shoot em up losers?
I've been asking this repeatedly. The gun nuts have no answer. Because they're wrong. It's the guns.Quote:
Originally Posted by phantomwhy is it that other countries around the world don't have regular mass killings in their schools by bombing or vehicles?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Hopefully before he pleads guilty and we never ever hear from him ever again, Nikolas says he got the idea from watching the Biathlon. The Olympics are a tad stale this year and that is exactly the shot in the arm they need.
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Originally Posted by badguy23Lol the pos was a 130 lb pos cock sucking nerd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
he took a uber to the fcking school so no i don't think this pussy would of blew up the school with a car bomb cuz the spic didnt even have a car
Some great American should kill his half brother with a good old fashion Louisville Slugger cuz word on the street is hes a pos spic to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZIzD0ZfTFg
I wish they would have killed him too. People like me and you don't need 5150's becoming more common.
And his biological parents haven't been revealed yet but it's pretty certain that they are white. With that said the non whites are still responsibly for plenty of killing in the U.S. over the years. I'm gonna put together a list of some of the mass killings carried out by non-whites for you to reference in case any of your non-white friends step to you and tell you its always us that are the psychos.
Mass Killings carried out by non-whites in the USA (All fairly recent besides 9/11)
9/11* - 2,753 dead
San Bernardino - 14 dead
Orlando Pulse Nightclub - 49 dead
Fort Lauderdale Airport Shooting - 5 dead
Virginia Tech - 32 people
Virginia News - 2 people (Low victim count but Chris Hurst is my third favorite gay behind Andrew Cunanan and PLOP)
NYC Halloween attack - 8 dead
Fort Hood Shooting - 13 dead
Boston Marathon bombing - 3 dead (Low death count but had to include because of all the lost limbs)
Binghamton New York shooting - 14 dead
Washington Navy Yard Killing - 12 dead
Isla Vista California Killing** - 7 dead
Krypt's Poker Fraud Alert Freeroll Incident- UNKNOWN
Oregon Community College Shooting - 9 Dead
Red Lake Minnesota Massacre - 9 dead
Hartford CT Beer shooting - 9 dead
Beltway Sniper Attacks - 10 dead
Nevada IHOP shooting - 5 dead
*some sources say Bush (white) did 9/11
**Elliot Rodger carried out his killings because of his hatred of being half Chinese so some people could interpret that as his white side being the psycho side.
You nerds pushing identity politics as the issue or even a contributing factor have missed the mark when using race as the identifier. I think you will find that the majority of these mass shootings are done by males with micro-penis syndrome. You may find that 95% of them are under 6 ft tall so perhaps your stupid authoritarian solution should be to ban all incoming travel for short people with small dicks. Maybe tattoo a red star on the head of all Americans with penises under 3 inches so they will be easier to keep an eye on.
So since all of this is true, there is no reason not to sell AR-15's?............No reason, AT ALL, to make it harder on the guy.
This same reasoning, just proves my theory that Sandy Hook is 100 % on the NRA.
Yeah, ok Druff, he could've bought a bomb and killed 26 students, or drove a truck through their kindergarten class room???
Even high school students see through BS like druff just wrote. And they are voting in 2020.
Florida student Emma Gonzalez to lawmakers and gun advocates: 'We call BS'
Republican Senator Chuck Grassley ...... 'Well, it's a shame the FBI isn't doing background checks on these mentally ill people.' Well, duh. You took that opportunity away last year.
The people in the government who were voted into power are lying to us.
Politicians who sit in their gilded House and Senate seats funded by the NRA telling us nothing could have been done to prevent this, we call BS
They say tougher guns laws do not decrease gun violence. We call BS.
They say a good guy with a gun stops a bad guy with a gun. We call BS.
They say guns are just tools like knives and are as dangerous as cars. We call BS.
They say no laws could have prevented the hundreds of senseless tragedies that have occurred. We call BS. That us kids don't know what we're talking about, that we're too young to understand how the government works. We call BS.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/17/us/fl...ech/index.html
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Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Id love it if someone can bottom line what common sense changes need to be made to gun laws in the US.
I read about gun stocks. Not sure how that would/would not help.
Magazine capacity. Seems that would make a difference in one of these events.
Ban "assault rifles". What is the line between a regular rifle and an assault one. What is allowed what isn't and why.
Should guns perhaps be regulated at a state level? I have no issues with someone waking around with a fully automatic 100 mag war weapon in Wyoming. Downtown Chicago probably a different story.
Seems like a logical reaction is to say let's have a second amendment repeal but it's very logical to say that isn't going to happen in this country, at least not in the current makeup of the country. What's achievable?
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Originally Posted by GordmanQuote:
Originally Posted by blake
I just checked in now. I just hot home a little bit ago and i am frickin tired. I have much to address maybe later on or tomorrow, but ill touch on your comment because its easy.
Blake - Pretty much literally everything you just said IS WRONG. Im not trying to be a dick here and frankly i think you are one of the more level headed people when it comes to debating etc, but you are wrong. The media is wrong as well, which is pretty likely where you got your info from.
Once again, you CANNOT legally purchase an assault rifle in this country ( there are certain very rare instances, but they are VERY RARE)
AN AR-15 is NOT an assault rifle. I dont give a shit who tells you otherwise. The government has already addressed this decades ago and even made laws about it. I dont care what media outlet or whoever it is claims the weapons are assault rifles, but they do not know what the hell they are talking about.
Some may think im arguing semantics, but there is a big reason why i drive this point home which i will touch on more probably tomorrow. Even police and some "government" officials still incorrectly coin the term. There have already been laws before the 80s and 90s that ban assault rifles.
An assault rifle has been clearly defined as a weapon which has selective fire - semi auto and full auto. There are some big reasons why i touch on this topic and drive this misleading term home as best i can. I will touch on this more tomorrow.
The "assault weapons ban" of the 90's was a load of horseshit. It more or less banned certain rifles of having certain ergonomic/cosmetic parts. I could still legally buy an AR 15 during tjis supposed ban. I know because when i was young and a couple years out of high school, there was a nice shing black one sitting on the shelf of my local sporting goods store which was around 99 -00. I was almost ready to buy it but i had other things i chose to spend my money on. The only thing that rifle lacked was certain ergonomic parts (example: an adjustable stock). Its laughable.
Look, do some searching. Dont get your info from the media
your point seems to be that a technical definition of an assault rifle -- which, from my experience, even gun dealers don't realize -- is that assault rifles MUST be able to be made fully automatic or they are not "assault rifles."
i don't know who gets to define this, but even if we use your definition, i'm not sure what point you were trying to make. you say you'll get to it later, so i guess we'll see.
the classic "assault rifle" per 99% of the world's definition is the AR-15. we're talking about semi-automatic rifles with large clip capacities for which you can mow down a large group of people quickly. those are the weapons that should be made illegal
But everyone and their grandmother owning some sort of high cap 9mm is ok?Quote:
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Originally Posted by Gordman
your point seems to be that a technical definition of an assault rifle -- which, from my experience, even gun dealers don't realize -- is that assault rifles MUST be able to be made fully automatic or they are not "assault rifles."
i don't know who gets to define this, but even if we use your definition, i'm not sure what point you were trying to make. you say you'll get to it later, so i guess we'll see.
the classic "assault rifle" per 99% of the world's definition is the AR-15. we're talking about semi-automatic rifles with large clip capacities for which you can mow down a large group of people quickly. those are the weapons that should be made illegal
Wow! It finally just clicked for as to why most schools don't tell the students when they are gonna run shooting drills. Apparently this gay boy was told they would be firing blanks as part of a drill and as a result he didn't take the actual shooting seriously. So my guess is that most schools don't tell the students beforehand because if a kid wants to shoot up the school the best time would be after the students are told a drill would be happening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp0g2ZFE6Ns
I was just about to give up watching these videos because the smiling is just maddening to me but then it makes it all worth it when something clicks.
Edit: And yo Jimmy G those Emma Gonzales videos are disgusting to me. It's one level of nasty if the parent wants to make a political statement but a classmate at a funeral where she doesn't know the politics of the parents while standing on the fresh dirt that buried them is just plain gross. Show some fucking respect.
I don't care if you hate guns or hate Trump or whatever the fuck you hate. This sorta shit should be unacceptable to all humans. I refuse to believe that all of the left supports disrespecting parents and the deceased before even all of their funerals have happened. Have you no heart?
Stocks are about the ability to conceal same as restricting barrel length. I wouldn't know if pistol grips make enough of a difference in the ease of use department, but i would assume so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daly
Just ban everything that's mostly just good at killing people by the dozens while having plenty of reasonable substitutes for sport, hunting and self-defense. It's regrettable that some people are born with below average size penis, but they are just going to have to find another way to express it.
You don't necessarily have to make it against the law to own weapons that are referred to as assault rifles, but it would make sense to make it illegal to make and sell new ones. Because currently they are becoming deadlier and easier to use on each new generation. Just limiting the weapons that kids can legally buy should have a positive effect.
Someone just turning 18 with no hunting or sport history should have no legitimate use for anything besides .22s and shotguns. Let them get accustomed to those and generally avoid mass shootings for a year or two. If he passes that single rule, then we can talk about proper hunting rifles.
Yes let's make an exception for people that hunt for fucking sport. How big of a god damned psycho do you have to be to watch them scrape children of the slab damn near monthly and not feel like the biggest fucking douchebag of all time when you push to keep guns legal so you can keep going sport hunting. People that need to kill animals for the thrill should all have the guns turned on them. I'm sure there are people that I don't know about that are more deserving of getting shot but of the things I can see, hear, and touch no one deserves to get shot more than these thrill killers that circle where I live 2-3 months a year. It's no joke I bet I hear more gun shots than gang bangers do during hunting season.
A real man hunts with a bow anyway, like Ted Nugent does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brittney Griner's Clit
its funny, i _love_ guns to the point where i considered getting a gunsmith license so i could trick out 1911 race-frames for IPSC back in the early 90s.
but id never touch a gun again, gladly, if it meant that one (1) random asshole could live his life instead of being murdered.
its strange to me that people not only dont feel that way, but are somehow tolerated in society.
Hunting and sport as separate activities. Sport ranging from plinking at Obama shaped targets to actual Olympic sports like the one where you ski a while and then stop to shoot at five non living targets. Mildly retarded but do whatever if no one is getting hurt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brittney Griner's Clit
I do love the fantasy world the anti-gun people live in and wish I could live there too.
90 million gun owners, 300 million guns and a few trillion rounds of ammunition floating around.
In what world do you ban guns does it have any effect on anything?
Also, who are you going to get to enforce said law? The police and armed forces that have near 100% gun ownership rates?
How about we start with practical laws like firearm insurance, required firearm training and better background checks?
Start grinding with regulations. Make it expensive and time consuming.Quote:
Originally Posted by abrown83
two words:
death tax.
all assault weapons require a massive death tax on purchase and trade.
additionally all assault weapons will require yearly registration fees.
possession of an untaxed or unregistered assault weapon = mandatory prison time.
and its that last part, btw, thats going to get the republicans on board with their private prison investments.
brisk business, knaves.
but the current makeup in the country is changing. i posted this already but a total gun ban is inevitable. all you have to do is look at demographics and look at polls showing how those groups vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daly
gun rights advocates are more strongly concentrated in white rural uneducated groups, but that group is disappearing
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Polls show that whites tend to favor gun rights over gun control by a significant margin (57 percent to 40 percent).
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An overwhelming majority of African Americans say that gun control is more important than gun rights (72 percent to 24 percent).
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Gun control is extremely popular among Hispanics, with 75 percent favoring gun safety over gun rights.
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A recent poll of Asian American registered voters found that 80 percent supported stricter gun laws.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...=.fe6e77b53dd9Quote:
Support for gun control is correlated, too, with levels of education. Gun rights are favored by a slim majority of those who attended only high school (50 percent to 47 percent). Among those with a college degree, however, 58 percent favor gun control, compared with 38 percent for gun rights. This demographic is also trending in a favorable direction for gun control advocates. Between 2002 and 2012, enrollment in degree-granting institutions increased by 24 percent.
there's also other factors that affect thinking on gun ownership like pop culture and the decline of religion which are trending in the wrong direction for gun enthusiasts.
chang you fucking nerd youre out here posting on pfa and not responding to my nascar dfs invites and you ducked hockey last night whats really going on here
i better see you tonight for the all star game
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Originally Posted by abrown83
Exactly. The same fantasy world lives on the Right in regards to deporting ALL illegal immigrants (many that have been here forever). Both sides have their own delusional thinking.
Canada fucking allows people to own the AR 15. Banning that is going to zero. Our issue is major lack of mental health resources and kids with fucked up families.
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Originally Posted by hongkongerA real man hunts with a bow anyway, like Ted Nugent does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brittney Griner's Clit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETgmlcIED6E
Btw, that looks fun.
I'm not going to argue the trend. But now is not 10 years from now and a constitutional amendment just isn't on the table.Quote:
Originally Posted by blake
So with that in mind - what can be done now.