Time to get on the TRUMP train

Those cases involving underage kids who are in their teens, but not pre-pubescent kids, has to be a prosecutorial and law enforcement nightmare.

I mean, if you’re 14 or 15 years old, and from a fucked up home and your life is going sideways, it exponentially increases your odds to even be in that situation to get molested/raped. Then such a large percentage of those kids will end up being fucked up because of their upbringing and the fact that they got singled out by predators like Epstein, which makes them easy to demonize 15 years later when they’re a mess or living in a trailer park somewhere.

So many legal cases in general are well-served by taking the case on an individual basis and common sense rather than some ballpark sentencing guideline or vague statute, but none more than these cases. Trying to parse how old the perpetrator is, how much the victim played into their own victimization, etc, has to be incredibly difficult. A dude like Epstein lives in that grey area.

In a world of common sense you just take him out behind the courtroom and put a bullet in his head. The guy is a straight predator who cultivates troubled teen age girls as playthings and has demonstrated a pattern of that shit for decades. Anything but a bullet is illogical.

Trying to make laws that drop the hammer on these old powerful men while not swooping up some 23 year old incel who lives in his mothers basement and caves to the hotpants 15 year old next door is why sex crimes has to be the nut low to deal with if you’re in law enforcement.

It’s one of those areas of the law where the system would be so much better served if you just empowered a dozen reasonable people to listen to cases and give the perpetrator anything from probation to the death penalty. You legit need that wide of latitude. Some panel of common sense individuals would almost always be better than some solo judge or prosecutor who can be corrupted or politically biased and influenced. Every time I read about these cases it tilts the fuck out of me and I think some dictatorships that can just arbitrarily make up laws as they go are actually preferable to our current system.

Epstein is Mossad.

It's all about videoing these people abusing children. Once that happens the Israelis own them.

Les Wexner is closely tied to Epstein as well.

Clinton Presidential Library is refusing to hand over information on Bill Clinton's ties to Jeffrey Epstein.

LULZ

But why?

This is a SDNY case.

The previous SDNY AG Preet Bharara has a podcast.

https://tunein.com/podcasts/News--Po...reet-p1018528/

I don’t share the same political bent but I respect Preet’s integrity

Astoundingly, the young Russian oligarch, Mr Tickle, is a religious listener. He’s an interesting cat, that MrTickle

Preet offers an important take. Basically, he points out how filthy the original decision & punishment was. That fact is a no brainer but to hear Bharara say it is important

Ahhh, speaking of oligarchary - welcome to politics & justice in ‘Mercia.

I’m actually feeling less enthusiastic about a big take down. There is enormous money and power at play. Yuuge

A person with information to sell has died in prison - at a young age of mysterious cause. Hillary strikes again. Bitch can’t be taken down.

lol barr has mysteriously decided not to recuse himself from the epstein case.

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also "Jeffrey Epstein bill Clinton" does not autocomplete, such a scam

ATTN ATINE

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MAAAGAAAAAAAAAA


https://www.foxcarolina.com/are-part...ba9c22b6a.html


BUILD THE WALL

"some of our faves"

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"some of our faves"

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At least one of “their” faves...

https://youtu.be/JZA9GlABmpw

Have you ever listened to a history of the United States?
The Dollop History Series Podcast
with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds is meant to be funny as they explore
the lives of U.S. Americans from day one. And it is hilarious.

But it's not pretty.....Yeah they make it funny but it only goes so far

Unless you are the whitestest of the white it's pretty ugly.

And if you listen you will discover how flawed the free enterprise
system is. Half of the show displays the absurdity of the open market system
left unto itself. It's unbelievably corrupt and it goes on today like it always has

Anyone who doesn't know the past....will feel it in the ass down the road

That's history...

Now step over to John Oliver.

This guy brings history to the forefront. It's kind of depressing because the horrible infrastructure of
the United States allows for incredible indiscretions. You can call if freedom but you can also name it
insanity unfiltered.

This awfulness is reported for good reason.....People in charge are fucking up and doing their best to cover up.. re: Jeffrey Epstein

Going back to the Dollop, listen to the Riverside Hospital episode, early on their history.
You won't even believe what people will do to protect their rotten souls.

It's not just funny, it's just unbelievable.

So no matter how good people can be the breakdown and corruption of anyone in power is
almost a given . That is sick. And that is the problem of humanity...Doesn't matter if you're Republican, Democrat, Socialist, Communist, Rapist....it just doesn't matter. People are out for themselves and you had better watch out

You watch who you vote for because there is likely a Jeffrey Epstein behind every vote.
It's a sick society
I wish it no well

Honest to god the answer is having no one to represent you. There is no need for one individual to
communicate your interests. It's a corrupt endeavour and it can be stopped in this electronic age
by getting rid of these whores of justice. They are simply a focal point of corruption

Yo, Druff! Your new “I’m-okay-with-him-because-I-like-most-of-his-policies” president seems to have had an exclusive party with the Sex-with-underage-girls King that you have repeated linked to Bill Clinton with much moral outrage.

Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'
https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...o-women-2019-7



Should we expect you to express heaps of moral outrage over this matter?

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Yo, Druff! Your new “I’m-okay-with-him-because-I-like-most-of-his-policies” president seems to have had an exclusive party with the Sex-with-underage-girls King that you have repeated linked to Bill Clinton with much moral outrage.

Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'
https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...o-women-2019-7



Should we expect you to express heaps of moral outrage over this matter?

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This topic deserves it's own thread.

Clinton looks worse then Trump.





I did not have sexual relations with those children. :)

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Yo, Druff! Your new “I’m-okay-with-him-because-I-like-most-of-his-policies” president seems to have had an exclusive party with the Sex-with-underage-girls King that you have repeated linked to Bill Clinton with much moral outrage.

Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'
https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...o-women-2019-7



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How old were the girls at this supposed Epstein+Trump party?

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Yo, Druff! Your new “I’m-okay-with-him-because-I-like-most-of-his-policies” president seems to have had an exclusive party with the Sex-with-underage-girls King that you have repeated linked to Bill Clinton with much moral outrage.

Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'
https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...o-women-2019-7



Should we expect you to express heaps of moral outrage over this matter?

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This topic deserves it's own thread.

Clinton looks worse then Trump.


I did not have sexual relations with those children. :)

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I have never tomatoed Mumbles or piled on. He is, I think, often trying to be intentionally droll. I think that’s the word.

Ascribing politics to this story is just abject stupidity, Mumbles, and that triggers my outrage toward you.

This is a story about the political oligarchy in America. Power, corruption and privilege. Clinton and Trump are two sides of the same coin fool.

For a guy with Perot as an avatar I gotta wonder if you have any clue what Perot represented at the time.

Yeah, this story doesn’t belong here.

Roger Stone is wearing a ball gag and Roy Cohn is unavailable for comment.

Agreed, Salty.

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Clinton looks worse then Trump.


I did not have sexual relations with those children. :)

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I have never tomatoed Mumbles or piled on. He is, I think, often trying to be intentionally droll. I think that’s the word.

Ascribing politics to this story is just abject stupidity, Mumbles, and that triggers my outrage toward you.

This is a story about the political oligarchy in America. Power, corruption and privilege. Clinton and Trump are two sides of the same coin fool.

For a guy with Perot as an avatar I gotta wonder if you have any clue what Perot represented at the time.

Yeah, this story doesn’t belong here.

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It definitely belongs here for the following reason: Abject partisans like Druff who try to hide behind morality and objectivity give Trump all of kinds of passes while crying foul over the apparent misdeeds of the political opposition, in which they automatically assume the worst level of guilt.

For example, Druff has repeatedly railed against the morally and ethically bankrupt Clintons, which I have agreed with where the evidence is overwhelming, but he has continuously given the totally *amoral* and serially fraud-commiting pathologically-lying self-enriching Donald J. Trump mostly silent support, and even recently openly admitted he supports because of his policies. Which prompts this question: What will it take for people like Druff to stop supporting Donald Trump? Does he have to actually shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue, or will they make excuses for that, also?

#WheresTheGenuineMoralOutrage

Somewhere in the ar-chive dumpster you will find a post in which Druff wrote a serious defense of the Bushes and argued the invasion of Iraq/WMD’s was legit. I sorta dismissed his first level approach to politics after that.

Except for his admiration of Rubio. That caught my attention.

I don’t disagree with many of his ideals but he conflates that with politics. It’s like a sport for him. He’s got his touts on the internet like Crowder. He thinks it’s real like the NBA or wrestling.

Look, I thought you were making a general point. It didn’t occur to me you were actually tweaking earnest Druff. I mean I saw it was addressed to him, but ya know....

The Epstein deal initially got me passionate and hopeful but that familiar world weary surrender is creeping back.

Warren or Trump in 2020

Great

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Clinton looks worse then Trump.


I did not have sexual relations with those children. :)

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I have never tomatoed Mumbles or piled on. He is, I think, often trying to be intentionally droll. I think that’s the word.

Ascribing politics to this story is just abject stupidity, Mumbles, and that triggers my outrage toward you.

This is a story about the political oligarchy in America. Power, corruption and privilege. Clinton and Trump are two sides of the same coin fool.

For a guy with Perot as an avatar I gotta wonder if you have any clue what Perot represented at the time.

Yeah, this story doesn’t belong here.

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the fact that a shitton of people don't fucking realize this fact is laughable...

:lol2

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I have never tomatoed Mumbles or piled on. He is, I think, often trying to be intentionally droll. I think that’s the word.

Ascribing politics to this story is just abject stupidity, Mumbles, and that triggers my outrage toward you.

This is a story about the political oligarchy in America. Power, corruption and privilege. Clinton and Trump are two sides of the same coin fool.

For a guy with Perot as an avatar I gotta wonder if you have any clue what Perot represented at the time.

Yeah, this story doesn’t belong here.

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the fact that a shitton of people don't fucking realize this fact is laughable...

:lol2

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it doesnt help that its not true.


trump isnt a politician, he has no political roots, and he has absolutely no real political power beyond the fleeting affection of the evangelicals and anyone stupid enough to believe there is a future there.

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the fact that a shitton of people don't fucking realize this fact is laughable...

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it doesnt help that its not true.


trump isnt a politician, he has no political roots, and he has absolutely no real political power beyond the fleeting affection of the evangelicals and anyone stupid enough to believe there is a future there.

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2 sides of the same coin

For Trump $ was power

For Willie Power was $

Both are corrupt (morally bankrupt)

Just for fun... who has a greater net worth?

Trump had zero political power and became President
Clinton had zero money and became extremely wealthy.

Interesting to ponder. They are both sociopaths. Then again, everyone populating the Epstein story is. That’s the common thread.

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it doesnt help that its not true.


trump isnt a politician, he has no political roots, and he has absolutely no real political power beyond the fleeting affection of the evangelicals and anyone stupid enough to believe there is a future there.

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not talking about them as politicians...san hit the nail on the head with his morally bankrupt comment...think that goes for the vast majority of the gimps in Washington...we don't have civil servants, we have a bunch of people looking to serve themselves...

might as well toss in that they are both mammals if we are casting the net that wide.


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According to Michael Gross, who has covered the real estate developer and former reality TV star since 1985, Trump was once known for throwing cocaine-fueled parties where teenage models were introduced to the real estate developer’s rich, older friends, reported The Daily Beast in October 2016.

Gross, who has also written a book on the modeling industry, spoke nearly three years ago to two men who had attended those parties back in the 1990s, and both men revealed how Trump took over corner suites at the Plaza Hotel to impress his guests.

Girls as young as 15 years old were lured to the parties with the promise that they’d meet well-connected men who might help them enter the modeling industry.

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to the surprise of absolutely no one.

I will be voting for Bernie Sanders



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_UbuX9x0xA

we get it youre so cucked out you let black guys cut in line

nailed it homo

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it doesnt help that its not true.


trump isnt a politician, he has no political roots, and he has absolutely no real political power beyond the fleeting affection of the evangelicals and anyone stupid enough to believe there is a future there.

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Lot of evangelicals and stupid people in Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, Indiana, Missouri, Pennsylvania, Maine, Florida, Arizona and Alaska?

What about the “Smart” people in California, Massachusetts, New York, Illinois etc who force fed Hillary to everyone in the above states? How “Smart” were they in retrospect? Warren, Sanders etc..... general socialist agendas who are unelectable in the eyes of most in these “stupid” states yet supporters from “smart” states (and the DNC 2 years ago) are actively trying to push another unelectable candidate.

If there was a cycle where the central party should step in and fix the deck for a candidate it’s this one, and it’s for the only electable person in the field and that’s Biden.

It’s amazing and astounding to me where the edict is to remove Trump at all costs by the DNC they have subjected everyone to the current clown show that is the nomination. Part of me thinks they can’t be this stupid, but here we are.

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it doesnt help that its not true.


trump isnt a politician, he has no political roots, and he has absolutely no real political power beyond the fleeting affection of the evangelicals and anyone stupid enough to believe there is a future there.

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Lot of evangelicals and stupid people in Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, Indiana, Missouri, Pennsylvania, Maine, Florida, Arizona and Alaska?

What about the “Smart” people in California, Massachusetts, New York, Illinois etc who force fed Hillary to everyone in the above states? How “Smart” were they in retrospect? Warren, Sanders etc..... general socialist agendas who are unelectable in the eyes of most in these “stupid” states yet supporters from “smart” states (and the DNC 2 years ago) are actively trying to push another unelectable candidate.

If there was a cycle where the central party should step in and fix the deck for a candidate it’s this one, and it’s for the only electable person in the field and that’s Biden.

It’s amazing and astounding to me where the edict is to remove Trump at all costs by the DNC they have subjected everyone to the current clown show that is the nomination. Part of me thinks they can’t be this stupid, but here we are.

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Google is attempting to erase any connection between Clinton and Epstein.

Wikipedia is trying to erase the fact that Epstein is a joo.

LULZ

But why?

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I will be voting for Bernie Sanders



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Wow, that has to be a total joke of a video, right?

Power Rangers got paid minimum wage and got paid according to their contracts. What's the big deal? They agreed to it, did they not?

Idk about Greenspan and de-regulating wall street. But he wants to cut minimum wage and get rid of social security? Sign me the fuck up for that. LOL @ Bernie clip...a crazed lunatic he is.

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it doesnt help that its not true.


trump isnt a politician, he has no political roots, and he has absolutely no real political power beyond the fleeting affection of the evangelicals and anyone stupid enough to believe there is a future there.

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Lot of evangelicals and stupid people in Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, Indiana, Missouri, Pennsylvania, Maine, Florida, Arizona and Alaska?

What about the “Smart” people in California, Massachusetts, New York, Illinois etc who force fed Hillary to everyone in the above states? How “Smart” were they in retrospect? Warren, Sanders etc..... general socialist agendas who are unelectable in the eyes of most in these “stupid” states yet supporters from “smart” states (and the DNC 2 years ago)

are actively trying to push another unelectable candidate.


If there was a cycle where the central party should step in and fix the deck for a candidate it’s this one, and it’s for the only electable person in the field and that’s Biden.

It’s amazing and astounding to me where the edict is to remove Trump at all costs by the DNC they have subjected everyone to the current clown show that is the nomination. Part of me thinks they can’t be this stupid, but here we are.

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The fact that you and many others believe Biden is the only electable nominee tells you how much of a charade the American political system is. The status quo is so afraid of losing a step, Biden gets a nod. There is no need for a President in this system when both sides will only elect someone to stay the course.

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Lot of evangelicals and stupid people in Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, Indiana, Missouri, Pennsylvania, Maine, Florida, Arizona and Alaska?

What about the “Smart” people in California, Massachusetts, New York, Illinois etc who force fed Hillary to everyone in the above states? How “Smart” were they in retrospect? Warren, Sanders etc..... general socialist agendas who are unelectable in the eyes of most in these “stupid” states yet supporters from “smart” states (and the DNC 2 years ago)

are actively trying to push another unelectable candidate.


If there was a cycle where the central party should step in and fix the deck for a candidate it’s this one, and it’s for the only electable person in the field and that’s Biden.

It’s amazing and astounding to me where the edict is to remove Trump at all costs by the DNC they have subjected everyone to the current clown show that is the nomination. Part of me thinks they can’t be this stupid, but here we are.

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The fact that you and many others believe Biden is the only electable nominee tells you how much of a charade the American political system is. The status quo is so afraid of losing a step, Biden gets a nod. There is no need for a President in this system when both sides will only elect someone to stay the course.

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Joe Biden. A spry 76

Nobody is getting out of their chair to vote for establishment Biden.

One day I was boating out of Port Royal (filthy filthy rich Florida Gulf Coast community). I randomly anchored and we walked to an island. Forget the name. A few 100 yards off the shore and beyond the scrub brush was a compound. We wander in exploring and were stopped.

The Biden compound. I don’t know if there were cocaine fueled sex parties but mega millions. Good for Ole Joe.

I heard he may have sold it since. Whatever.

I’m leaning Democrat but not Biden.

Gore has a place that has got to be $20 million just outside of Port Royal too.

Lol, public service

I heard a lot of hoi polloi bury their wealth in Florida Gulf Coast real estate because of the confluence of favorable Florida tax rate & favorable homestead laws make that wealth untouchable if shit should go
Sideways.

What you afraid of Joe?

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Sideways.

What you afraid of Joe?

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when the oceans reclaim those investments and the unregulated insurance industry refuse to cover the losses and the housing market implodes from the mortgage defaults.....

https://i.imgur.com/dtCCyzQ.gif

BREAKING: Robert Mueller and his Special Counsel team concluded in August 2018, months before the midterm elections, that there was no proof linking Donald Trump or his campaign to colluding with Russia during the presidential election, according to DOJ insiders.

LULZ

(((shocker)))

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Sideways.

What you afraid of Joe?

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when the oceans reclaim those investments and the unregulated insurance industry refuse to cover the losses and the housing market implodes from the mortgage defaults.....

https://i.imgur.com/dtCCyzQ.gif

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Won’t be massive defaults this time. Everyone needs at least 20% to put down now...... until Harris gets elected and hands out billions of federally backed loans to the under Privileged. Sound familiar? Who makes out in that deal? The current ownership class who nails out at an inflated price or the people holding the bad investment and the Government?

Status Quo.... you mean those who don’t want a socialist in charge? Is that what Staus Quo means now? Count me in and an average of >50% of voters and certinaly more than 270 in the electorial college.

Hey daughter tonight we having steamed fish and Brussel sprouts.

I don’t want that.

Ok I guess you can talk me out of that because it’s really not what I had in mind... what do you have in mind, but be realistic.

I want a McDonalds quarter pounder with a Large Fries a Large Coke and a double ice cream.

Over shot the mark kid - Fish it is.

Trump is Fish. Even the people who can stomach him aren’t really thrilled about him. But when you ask the Democrats to be realistic with an alternative they need to put forward an equaly shitty choice just to “get even”.

We can all have a Biden but the left is insisting on a McSanders or a McWarren or a McHarris.

I say to all my liberal friends don’t be pissed when 45 gets another term - it’s going to happen if you don’t placate the moderates this time. The last election wasn’t a fluke but everyone pretending it was.


I’m not writing this to piss off people. Given the right candidate I’d consider jumping ship.... (Didnt vote for him last time) I just don’t think the left cares about reaching out to the middle. Rather cut their nose off and lose the election.

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Won’t be massive defaults this time. Everyone needs at least 20% to put down now...... until Harris gets elected and hands out billions of federally backed loans to the under Privileged. Sound familiar? Who makes out in that deal? The current ownership class who nails out at an inflated price or the people holding the bad investment and the Government?

Status Quo.... you mean those who don’t want a socialist in charge? Is that what Staus Quo means now? Count me in and an average of >50% of voters and certinaly more than 270 in the electorial college.

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i actually have a meeting with a mortgage broker next week to get some clarity on this. im seeing a lot of interesting threads about lower down payments being offered to exceptional credit holders, obv with pmi attached, but this is outside the obama programs for first time borrowers... will ping back obv.