I don't think they will be able to extradite him. Judging by what I read (and posted) the government down there most likely won't cooperate with a state run agency, especially one that involves gaming.Quote:
Originally Posted by GrenadaRoger
I think it becomes more of a question of how long will Micon be able to stay in Antigua, and if he can support himself and the family.
Does anyone know what the requirements would be for him to stay in Antigua for a long period of time?
Total Fees:Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369I don't think they will be able to extradite him. Judging by what I read (and posted) the government down there most likely won't cooperate with a state run agency, especially one that involves gaming.Quote:
Originally Posted by GrenadaRoger
I think it becomes more of a question of how long will Micon be able to stay in Antigua, and if he can support himself and the family.
Does anyone know what the requirements would be for him to stay in Antigua for a long period of time?
Minimum Investment (NDF $200,000 or real estate $400,000)+
Due Diligence Fee ($7500) +
Government Fee ($50,000) +
Lawyer Fee (mentioned in quote) +
Passport fee ($350)
The total costs will come around $292,000 (approx under NDF) for 1 person and $490,000 (approx) under real estate for 1 person. Additional dependents cost extra.
New Offer! The Government is offering Limited Time Offer (LTO) early bird applicants . The investment amount is only $200,000 under NDF. The Government fee ($50,000) is waived for additional 2 persons who apply under family of 4.
LOL spending your entire life in that tourist trap.
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Originally Posted by TonyTotal Fees:Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369
Minimum Investment (NDF $200,000 or real estate $400,000)+
Due Diligence Fee ($7500) +
Government Fee ($50,000) +
Lawyer Fee (mentioned in quote) +
Passport fee ($350)
The total costs will come around $292,000 (approx under NDF) for 1 person and $490,000 (approx) under real estate for 1 person. Additional dependents cost extra.
New Offer! The Government is offering Limited Time Offer (LTO) early bird applicants . The investment amount is only $200,000 under NDF. The Government fee ($50,000) is waived for additional 2 persons who apply under family of 4.
LOL spending your entire life in that tourist trap.
Can he not just seek asylum for free instead?
Asylum for what, breaking the law in Nevada? He is not someone escaping ISIS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord of the FraudQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Can he not just seek asylum for free instead?
If he wants to live in Antigua and use their services (i.e. police, fire department, sanitation, etc...) he has to pre-pay. It's not like he is creating jobs.
Going to be interesting when someone in is family needs medical care in Antigua and he has no Obamacare to lean on. What a train wreck in process. If I am Micon I am applying for bartender jobs ASAP, so when SWC fails he can earn a living. He might not know it yet, but he is already serving his prison sentence by living in a 3rd world depot catering to cruise ships and tourists.
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Originally Posted by TonyAsylum for what, breaking the law in Nevada? He is not someone escaping ISIS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud
If he wants to live in Antigua and use their services (i.e. police, fire department, sanitation, etc...) he has to pre-pay. It's not like he is creating jobs.
Going to be interesting when someone in is family needs medical care in Antigua and he has no Obamacare to lean on. What a train wreck in process. If I am Micon I am applying for bartender jobs ASAP, so when SWC fails he can earn a living. He might not know it yet, but he is already serving his prison sentence by living in a 3rd world depot catering to cruise ships and tourists.
Honestly i'm pissing in the wind on the ole asylum in Antigua topic.
But if he's wanted for breaking a law in Nevada that isn't also a criminal offence in Antigua. Then maybe a judge could possibly grant him asylum on grounds of persecution?
I'm sure its something his lawyer over there will be looking into at least.
the asylum/persecution idea seems a stretch to me (i don't see Antigua as a human rights haven)...more important is Micon paying off the right people, bringing money/employment to the country and not being a burden on their legal/criminal/welfare systems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord of the FraudQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Honestly i'm pissing in the wind on the ole asylum in Antigua topic.
But if he's wanted for breaking a law in Nevada that isn't also a criminal offence in Antigua. Then maybe a judge could possibly grant him asylum on grounds of persecution?
I'm sure its something his lawyer over there will be looking into at least.
If it is its extremely unlikely. People don't really get asylum in Barbados. There are a total of zero asylum seekers in Barbados and zero refugees in the entire nation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord of the FraudQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Honestly i'm pissing in the wind on the ole asylum in Antigua topic.
But if he's wanted for breaking a law in Nevada that isn't also a criminal offence in Antigua. Then maybe a judge could possibly grant him asylum on grounds of persecution?
I'm sure its something his lawyer over there will be looking into at least.
http://www.unhcr.org/pages/49e491066.html
it's not in Antigua's best interest to encourage lawless dipshits to come there, so they should ship him back.
he needs his attorney to arrange a club fed situation where he can do easy time and get back to his life.
He likely dreads one thing even more than prison: Not being able to run Seals anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Texter
If he returns to the states, he will have to either shut down swcpoker or completely divorce himself from it.
I don't see him agreeing to that, so he's probably not coming back.
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Originally Posted by GrenadaRoger
Dude are the possibilities really that far off? If Micon were to somehow partner with Antigua gaming authorities, who knows what could happen..
Bitcoin gambling is not something I think the state of Nevada has any chance of stopping or enforcing a ban and Micon will prob try to leverage that hard. I can imagine he'd love nothing more than to give everybody on his case a big blatant fuck you by building some giant, in your face, bitcoin gambling empire from Antigua. I am stoned out of my gourd and acknowledge this could be too optimistic but it's not really that impossible either..
WSOP > SWC or so I think in Micon's life priorities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffHe likely dreads one thing even more than prison: Not being able to run Seals anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Texter
If he returns to the states, he will have to either shut down swcpoker or completely divorce himself from it.
I don't see him agreeing to that, so he's probably not coming back.
Also Martha and child will obviously jump ship if forced to stay on a tiny island for the next 50 years. Of course Micon doesn't realize that part yet.
I assume he will do his time in minimum security prison and move on.
Disclaimer: I'm not reading any other geek site threads regarding this issue.
Moving to Antigua before any trumped up charges laid by a "State Commission" would not be an illegal act IMO. Resigning oneself to a single residence in a particular location would not be a requirement of anyone living abroad unless under some local form of house arrest.
It's a big world(increasingly more attractive than the U.S.) and if I was Micon I'd take advantage of that fact.
The "charges laid" were made by people with money who wish to keep their revenue stream intact regardless of morality issues.
Focusing the Micon Kaleidoscope - the posters here are doing a fascinating job.
Sorry Druff, but the bad boy gets punished story is so simplistic. I have parried a bit with you and have finally understood my annoyance. I think most of us could give a shit about the legal argument regarding unlicensed Nevada gaming. We will quickly concede this point. In fact, this should be a separate thread. I think I speak for all when I say the story that interests us is how Micon will play his hand, what options are available to him and how this will end.
I think we concur with the following so far:
Micon will not be offered bail.
Proven flight risk. Guaranteed room reservation. Chenoff may negotiate something. No bail equals no Micon. You want him brought to justice - bail is the only way you see his freshly sunburned ass in a Nevada court room. Ankle bracelet (useless joke) & house arrest. Where? He has no Nevada friends or family.
Nevada doesn't extradite.
Gamblebot knows. It's a state. Lol, it's Nevada - with total gross tax revenue that just beats out Rhode Island.
Antigua doesn't assist any U.S. online gambling beef
Three letters: WTO - pay up U.S. or get lost. Antigua & U.S. Are not pals.
Tony runs good lately posting the dollars required for residency. Why is Antigua the only option? The world is a big place. In fact, other members of this forum live outside the U.S. and I am guessing they don't spend a lot of time wishing they were here.
Question: What bearing do the pending allegations have on his prospects for relocation somewhere else in the free world?
If I were in his shoes I'd be reaching out to Calvin Ayre or Nagy. Micon knows the business front to back. His dealings with his customers (all 200) have been ethical. Kid is a self starter.
Micon is funny and made a name for himself prior to current events. But is he great at marketing? FFS he is playing on the competition's site. I mean WTF is this about? You guys love mocking his tournament lottery results but isn't the story the fact that he plays there at all?
Let's face it, the window on Bitcoin poker's novelty has come and gone. ACR. Total anonymity has no meaningful market. SWC 2.0 has no future.
Bartender? Micon's greatest talent is not poker, Bitcoin or marketing. Micon's greatest asset is his ability to communication & entertain. If he mated with just the right starving ghost writer there would be a pretty good e-book here. Micon was a participant in more ways than nearly anyone else during the ascent, boom, Black Friday, and post apocalyptic corporate poker. Player, poker media, and site owner. international poker fugitive. If white bread Vicky Coren can crank out a book documenting pre-corporate poker bad boy Micon would crush.
Why do you mock the idea of Micon as king of all media, 'tine?
I could keep riffing for pages... Fucking love this story.
Relocation.....
Micon does not have a valid passport?
couple thoughts in boldQuote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
the real problem for micon is that he's probably broke, he won't (and can't) get an antiguan gaming license, he can't afford citizenship and he won't be paying any taxes. so there is literally no reason antigua will want him. i can see antigua seriously considering an extradition request from the US here
chang you dont dare proffer your two korean cents here when literally dangiel druffs skatz operation came down to getting a vpn for chaps trailer park
god where is muck ficon to neg rep you when i need him
honestly 6 years of dealing with blake people this is what i have to deal with
I agree with some of this.....that being said:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
Micon is not a "self starter". He finds something or someone who is blowing up and quickly inserts himself into it. He does none of the work but takes all the credit for it. He did it with NWP and Seals with Clubs. Kind of ironic that taking all the credit for Seals With Clubs will ultimately be his downfall.
Micon is funny looking, not funny.
Micon's greatest ability is to be selfish and fuck over his friends and family.
A book or e-book is possible, but no one will read it. No one really gives a shit about poker anymore...let alone some skinny little hook nosed jew who broke the law and cried foul.
Using a picture of your daughter on your GoFundMe page to raise money for your fuck ups? Doesn't get any lower than that.
great story you midwestern trash