same point. if they are in uniform at a public gathering they are there for appearance. They are not the actual elite members deployed to deal with a threat.Quote:
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same point. if they are in uniform at a public gathering they are there for appearance. They are not the actual elite members deployed to deal with a threat.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCR
30 seconds in...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=ROrpKx3aIjA
i know dozens of active duty and retired navy SEALS. all the ones i know are great guys (except for two of them). Oh the stories i could tell if it wouldnt be a douche move to do so. speaking of douches, i know several blackwater (i guess it's xi now) and those guys to a T are all arrogant dumbasses. and like the guy you know they all walk around wearing corporate gear plastered with the blackwater logo. now that i think about it theyve kept a low profile since the name change. i actually have a ton of blackwater swag. wonder if i could sell it on ebay and give the proceeds to charity.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Deal
I have met active duty special forces out and about, but only became aware of what they were because someone made me aware that knew them personally. They generally look more average guy, or runner rather than rambo. In 40+ years, I don't think I have seen one advertise it outside possibly a military funeral, or maybe a wedding if they're wearing their dress uniform with some insignia or something. I am sure military guys here might recognize a tattoo or patch, but I don't think they are advertising much as a deterrent. I am far from a military expert, but I don't think you are seeing active duty special forces protecting sporting events. I think it's very likely some private contractor, who is likely comprised of ex-military personnel, but not active duty guys. I have a guy who graduated with me who worked for blackwater and he wore their shit all the time at the gym, but he was retired from the military, and was never a special forces guy either to my knowledge. Like I said, I am no expert, but it seems like some aren't understanding the distinction between private contractors, gov't agencies, and active duty military special forces members. I would be shocked to see the latter used in this capacity. I know we have ex-military guys here who can probably straighten it out, and it's possible I'm wrong, but it would surprise me.
Yeah, so remember these 2 guys? The ones who were the subject of the 4chan/reddit/news station witch hunt?
Well, evidently it is safe to say they had nothing to do with it. They are currently freaking out trying to clear their name.
Evidently someone even plastered their real info on Reddit...which has since been deleted.
News stations allegedly were airing the pictures as well.
Ok, some of you can all go back to labeling 4chan and reddit as being filled with a bunch of idiots and not really smarter than the FBI now.
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/04/1...who-you-think/
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Originally Posted by GordmanYeah, so remember these 2 guys? The ones who were the subject of the 4chan/reddit/news station witch hunt?
Well, evidently it is safe to say they had nothing to do with it. They are currently freaking out trying to clear their name.
Evidently someone even plastered their real info on Reddit...which has since been deleted.
News stations allegedly were airing the pictures as well.
Ok, some of you can all go back to labeling 4chan and reddit as being filled with a bunch of idiots and not really smarter than the FBI now.
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/04/1...who-you-think/
Alex Jones thinks it was a training exercise done by the feds and nobody bothered to go get the devices they set themselves. Sounds crazypants until you think about the first WTC bombing where the FBI gave some shlubs live explosives and they blew up the parking garage. I don't have a clue as to whom or what they have as motive, but when the crazy arabs don't jump up and down and take credit, local cops go to hold 3 different press conferences to tell everyone who did it and get told 'no' by the feds every time.. it all just gets a bit murky as to who's at fault here especially when the Justice Department has already been caught selling assault rifles to mexican gangs.
On another note, if you wear a backpack to an outdoor event after this, you need serious help.
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Originally Posted by GordmanYeah, so remember these 2 guys? The ones who were the subject of the 4chan/reddit/news station witch hunt?
Well, evidently it is safe to say they had nothing to do with it. They are currently freaking out trying to clear their name.
Evidently someone even plastered their real info on Reddit...which has since been deleted.
News stations allegedly were airing the pictures as well.
Ok, some of you can all go back to labeling 4chan and reddit as being filled with a bunch of idiots and not really smarter than the FBI now.
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/04/1...who-you-think/
Alex Jones thinks it was a training exercise done by the feds and nobody bothered to go get the devices they set themselves. Sounds crazypants until you think about the first WTC bombing where the FBI gave some shlubs live explosives and they blew up the parking garage. I don't have a clue as to whom or what they have as motive, but when the crazy arabs don't jump up and down and take credit, local cops go to hold 3 different press conferences to tell everyone who did it and get told 'no' by the feds every time.. it all just gets a bit murky as to who's at fault here especially when the Justice Department has already been caught selling assault rifles to mexican gangs.
On another note, if you wear a backpack to an outdoor event after this, you need serious help.
Alex Jones basically needs to be bitchslapped as a general rule, but who knows, even a blind squirrel does find a nut every now and then.
If nothing else, im sure they will find a way to pin it on some white pro-2nd amendment guy with a couple of guns and some NRA magazines lying around in his house. Who knows.
Since we are on the subject crazy shit that might actually have some merit, whats with this one? :
http://i.imgur.com/paK3lGJh.png
99.99 percent of the time i would laugh and shrug it off, but this day and age, nothing fucking surprises me anymore.
I already posted that - everyone shrugged it off first, but considering all the other suspects are no longer suspects this might be relevant.Quote:
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It's all conspiracy to me, but I try to hear what everyone is saying. The latest one is that the guy they wanted to arrest was a Saudi national from a good family and that the feds put him on a plane so he cannot be 'caught'. This because of an unscheduled visit from some random that went to the white house as an unscheduled visit. So I believe that every single way this could have gone down has been put out there, until tomorrow when another idea will be floated. But seriously, a pressure cooker? It's just so gay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beebs9DizzleI already posted that - everyone shrugged it off first, but considering all the other suspects are no longer suspects this might be relevant.Quote:
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Everyone with an IQ over 38 is still shrugging it off. Lack of answers at this point doesn't give anymore credibility to bullshit like this. Just because they don't have all the answers in the time it takes for you to watch an episode of American Idol, doesn't mean it's some grand conspiracy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beebs9DizzleI already posted that - everyone shrugged it off first, but considering all the other suspects are no longer suspects this might be relevant.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Anal_HershiserEveryone with an IQ over 38 is still shrugging it off. Lack of answers at this point doesn't give anymore credibility to bullshit like this. Just because they don't have all the answers in the time it takes for you to watch an episode of American Idol, doesn't mean it's some grand conspiracy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beebs9Dizzle
First guy appears to be wearing a Bridgestone golf cap. That means absolutely nothing for identification purposes, but all I have to offer. First guy *could be middle eastern* Second guy looks more traditionally white, but who fucking knows? Sometimes it's hard to tell, and those pics aren't exactly clear. Unless the dude was wearing a turban or a shirt with a rebel flag, it appears to be too early to put these guys in a specific category. I could believe anything from Persians, to Christian whackos, to occupy wall streeter, to eco terrorist from those pics. The Barry/anal bet is still inconclusive imo.
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Originally Posted by Anal_HershiserEveryone with an IQ over 38 is still shrugging it off. Lack of answers at this point doesn't give anymore credibility to bullshit like this. Just because they don't have all the answers in the time it takes for you to watch an episode of American Idol, doesn't mean it's some grand conspiracy.Quote:
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I like my chances.
I'd be willing to bet the odds are more likely their names are Ahmed and Mohammed than Dave and Bill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordman
yah those 4chan guys sure got it right..
Wait a minute...what happened to all of that high tech "enhancing" the fbi can do, lol. I always thought that rotating a 2 dimensional picture was completely legit!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxq9yj2pVWk
Find out where they sell this close by and you might get lucky. Good chance they just bought it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uHBFiAnpZs
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Originally Posted by Anal_HershiserI'd be willing to bet the odds are more likely their names are Ahmed and Mohammed than Dave and Bill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordman
That guy in the white hat looks Caucasian to me. Looks close enough to hypothetically be Timothy McVeigh's brother or something...
....which is kind of funny, because the anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing is tomorrow...
Couple things that stand out right away to me. They are obviously very aware of how to dress to blend in. They have most likely been here for some period of time, if not raised here with dual citizenship. The other hat on t.v looked to me like it was a "3" Dale Earnhardt hat (worn by a middle eastern), which is possible but not probable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anal_HershiserI'd be willing to bet the odds are more likely their names are Ahmed and Mohammed than Dave and Bill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordman
They seem very in tune with exactly how to blend right in. Also one guy is very tall, noticeably taller than the rest in that close up pic. Terrorists, well funded, very sophisticated group. Did not just get off a plane within past week or so. They actually fit the "student" profile quite well, possibly having been a student here for a couple of years from elsewhere is another thought.
Definitely terrorists, scary how well they know how to blend in here.
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That guy in the white hat looks Caucasian to me. Looks close enough to hypothetically be Timothy McVeigh's brother or something...
....which is kind of funny, because the anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing is tomorrow...
Honestly, from the pics, they could be almost anything. I thought he was white also, but the more I look at that profile pic, the more I see something else. Either way, shouldn't be too long and someone will have better pics. That second guy has a distinctive gait, someone will remember him.
Also this, that second guy has definitely got a noticeable swagger about the way he walks, agree that someones going to remember him, if not know him after these pics are now being circulated. Just hope they did not board a damn plane already.Quote:
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Honestly, from the pics, they could be almost anything. I thought he was white also, but the more I look at that profile pic, the more I see something else. Either way, shouldn't be too long and someone will have better pics. That second guy has a distinctive gait, someone will remember him.
I would stop with the domestic b.s at this point. It is very clear this is terrorism, although possible they have ties here, based on the fact, they knew how to blend in so well.
*Golf hat looks right more I see the released pics, first thought was a 3 hat.
Just stop. The last thing we need is another down syndrome detective fagging up the thread.Quote:
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Trust me, I know a lot more about this than you do. Mark my words!Quote:
Originally Posted by DealJust stop. The last thing we need is another down syndrome detective fagging up the thread.Quote:
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I got a middle eastern vibe from the guy on the left. The other one I can't tell, but if one is middle eastern, the other one is very likely as well.
Right, the other giveaway is the beard(chinstrap/white hat). Muslim adhering to practice.Quote:
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yep they look like a couple of sand n-words too meQuote:
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I like my chances.
I'm more interested in the motives behind said attack.
Blowing up shrapnel bombs is a little too Mickey Mouse for an international terrorist organization.
I recently returned from Nepal with a pressure cooker that I had purchased. That probably won't be happening for anyone again anytime soon.
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Silly me.
But isn't this sort of thing FBI/CIA territory rather than some of the most elite soldiers on the planet?
Unless maybe they're there due to a specific threat?
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Originally Posted by 4DragonsWhy do you insist on inferring that you have a clue? Go google Department of Homeland Security and come back when you at least have the most basic of knowledge of what you are talking about.Quote:
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Wait a minute. I asked if the Navy Seals would be on duty at an event like that without there being a specific threat.
Then you said this to meHow the fuck am I suppose to get that you meant "ex special forces" now working within the DHS from what you said.Quote:
Lol at you thinking that people like that aren't at every large event.
You obviously meant a unit such as the Navy Seals and not individual ex soldiers. Because it was clear as day that I asked if they would be there "as a unit"
You seen a page of posts rubbishing your comment and tried to row back from it.
And now you're saying that whole thing is one big conspiracy anyway?
Tuck yourself in, Mr dragon.
Prior to his death, bin Laden was encouraging radicals not directly affiliated with al Qaeda to do their own attacks. This could have been one of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe
That American traitor/scumbag Adam Gadahn also made a video in 2011 urging the same, though he was more referring to buying automatic weapons at gun shows and attacking Americans in public places with them.
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Originally Posted by 4DragonsWhy do you insist on inferring that you have a clue? Go google Department of Homeland Security and come back when you at least have the most basic of knowledge of what you are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud
Wait a minute. I asked if the Navy Seals would be on duty at an event like that without there being a specific threat.
Then you said this to meHow the fuck am I suppose to get that you meant "ex special forces" now working within the DHS from what you said.Quote:
Lol at you thinking that people like that aren't at every large event.
You obviously meant a unit such as the Navy Seals and not individual ex soldiers. Because it was clear as day that I asked if they would be there "as a unit"
You seen a page of posts rubbishing your comment and tried to row back from it.
And now you're saying that whole thing is one big conspiracy anyway?
Tuck yourself in, Mr dragon.
Someone glass this poof.
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I had a weird dream last night (well, i guess all dreams are weird) but basically it was about this bombing and that the terrorists were testing the situation/reactions/etc with their low quality bomb and then adding radioactive material for a dirty bomb for future use. I know, it was just a dream...but still.
Set aside the dreaming and shit and when I bounce back to reality, the sad fact is, the more and more I think about it, a dirty bomb is not difficult to make - i mean, obviously the hardest part is finding radioactive material...the rest is childs play. Anyone who is capable of making a regular bomb and setting it off, is capable of making a dirty bomb - with the right connections to radioactive material of course.
It is actually not, it is more indicative of a sophisticated group. They would know these materials were easy to purchase, and leave very little if any suspicion when purchasing them. The explosive used, will be interesting to hear. That would be the one ingredient they would most likely be concerned with purchasing. Again, this is not a group who landed a week prior and pulled this off like 9/11 imo.Quote:
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More reason why I think they functioned here for quite some time.
saw this in comments section, right after blast
http://i.imgur.com/I1dF69f.jpg link is better, can zoom
The guy in the white hat looks Middle Eastern to me. Maybe it's the nose, I dunno. Every time I look at him, I think Sayid from LOST. Other guy looks dark to me too. But it's obv too difficult to tell. But I'm liking my bet with Barry more and more each day. Of course it will probably end up being some Deliverance "purty mouth, squeal like a pig" Christian crackers, and I'll have to give $50 to the United Negro College Fund or some other nonsense.Quote:
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That guy in the white hat looks Caucasian to me. Looks close enough to hypothetically be Timothy McVeigh's brother or something...
....which is kind of funny, because the anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing is tomorrow...
I don't know what to focus on, the obv guy with the white hat, or the old fart who instead of worrying about an explosion killing people , is glaring at the chicks running and he is grinning from ear to earQuote:
Originally Posted by BCRsaw this in comments section, right after blast
http://i.imgur.com/I1dF69f.jpg link is better, can zoom