**OFFICIAL Donald J. Trump vs. Joseph (Joe) R. Biden Thread - 2020 Presidential Election**

Biden leads evaporates in one of the most anti-Trump pollsters out there. The way this is going to play out is nobody, except the extreme left and CNN, is blaming Trump for Coronavirus. This will come down to who the country thinks is best to lead the country out of this mess. It's a complete binary choice. Reports are Biden is going to be in his basement until at least August. That is a disaster because Trump will take the risk and start hitting states throughout the summer. Biden looks frail to say the least, and sitting in his basement does him no favors.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elect...cid=spartandhp

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Biden leads evaporates in one of the most anti-Trump pollsters out there. The way this is going to play out is nobody, except the extreme left and CNN, is blaming Trump for Coronavirus. This will come down to who the country thinks is best to lead the country out of this mess. It's a complete binary choice. Reports are Biden is going to be in his basement until at least August. That is a disaster because Trump will take the risk and start hitting states throughout the summer. Biden looks frail to say the least, and sitting in his basement does him no favors.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elect...cid=spartandhp

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so you think biden would do better out there giving campaign speeches, interesting.

have you heard him speak before?

god willing, the debates get canceled because of this

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Biden leads evaporates in one of the most anti-Trump pollsters out there. The way this is going to play out is nobody, except the extreme left and CNN, is blaming Trump for Coronavirus. This will come down to who the country thinks is best to lead the country out of this mess. It's a complete binary choice. Reports are Biden is going to be in his basement until at least August. That is a disaster because Trump will take the risk and start hitting states throughout the summer. Biden looks frail to say the least, and sitting in his basement does him no favors.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elect...cid=spartandhp

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so you think biden would do better out there giving campaign speeches, interesting.

have you heard him speak before?

god willing, the debates get canceled because of this

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Hey I agree, I am still shocked Biden won this thing. He was a terrible candidate at age 45 and 62, now people think he improved at age 78. He looks like he is 88. It really does not matter. It's all going to come down to what the virus and economy is doing in late October. He really needs a day 1 VP pick read to go in the event he is elected, because I don't even think he would make it a year. Even though she is supremely annoying with that voice and goofy snout, it really needs to be Amy Kloubachar. She really is the only woman in the Democratic party that is remotely electable. I mean Stacey Abrams, are you kidding me?

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Biden leads evaporates in one of the most anti-Trump pollsters out there. The way this is going to play out is nobody, except the extreme left and CNN, is blaming Trump for Coronavirus. This will come down to who the country thinks is best to lead the country out of this mess. It's a complete binary choice. Reports are Biden is going to be in his basement until at least August. That is a disaster because Trump will take the risk and start hitting states throughout the summer. Biden looks frail to say the least, and sitting in his basement does him no favors.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elect...cid=spartandhp

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so you think biden would do better out there giving campaign speeches, interesting.

have you heard him speak before?

god willing, the debates get canceled because of this

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nightmare scenario is they do it over the internet via live streaming. joe.. does not do tech well.

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Biden leads evaporates in one of the most anti-Trump pollsters out there. The way this is going to play out is nobody, except the extreme left and CNN, is blaming Trump for Coronavirus. This will come down to who the country thinks is best to lead the country out of this mess. It's a complete binary choice. Reports are Biden is going to be in his basement until at least August. That is a disaster because Trump will take the risk and start hitting states throughout the summer. Biden looks frail to say the least, and sitting in his basement does him no favors.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elect...cid=spartandhp

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What positions do you have open on PredictIt?

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Stacey Abrams, are you kidding me?

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She will be his death knell.

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Stacey Abrams, are you kidding me?

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She will be his death knell.

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It's got to be Klobuchar, or maybe one of the Latinas from NM/NV.

Then again would it surprise anyone if he were dumb enough to pick Abrams?

"I don't belong to any organized political party. I'm a Democrat." --Will Rogers

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Stacey Abrams, are you kidding me?

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She will be his death knell.

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i get your thinking behind this, but humor me.

what person that would have come out to vote for biden, will instead decide to stay home or vote for trump because he chose abrams? what demographic is he losing? biden was never winning over trump voters. they are the most loyal voting block in american presidential history.

there are a lot of people who think black people staying home cost hillary the election. don't you think this increases turnout in that community?

that being said, i still wouldn't love the pick. biden may not last a first term and we need a more qualified and experienced vp candidate. this is not the ideal time to pander to a demographic.

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She will be his death knell.

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i get your thinking behind this, but humor me.

what person that would have come out to vote for biden, will instead decide to stay home or vote for trump because he chose abrams? what demographic is he losing? biden was never winning over trump voters. they are the most loyal voting block in american presidential history.

there are a lot of people who think black people staying home cost hillary the election. don't you think this increases turnout in that community?

that being said, i still wouldn't love the pick. biden may not last a first term and we need a more qualified and experienced vp candidate. this is not the ideal time to pander to a demographic.

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i keep remembering the woman at the iowa (or was it ohio) primary center who wanted to take back her vote for pete b after she was told he was gay.

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She will be his death knell.

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i get your thinking behind this, but humor me.

what person that would have come out to vote for biden, will instead decide to stay home or vote for trump because he chose abrams? what demographic is he losing? biden was never winning over trump voters. they are the most loyal voting block in american presidential history.

there are a lot of people who think black people staying home cost hillary the election. don't you think this increases turnout in that community?

that being said, i still wouldn't love the pick. biden may not last a first term and we need a more qualified and experienced vp candidate. this is not the ideal time to pander to a demographic.

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White people are not gonna sign up for anything that involves an overweight black women being a heart beat away from being president.

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She will be his death knell.

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i get your thinking behind this, but humor me.

what person that would have come out to vote for biden, will instead decide to stay home or vote for trump because he chose abrams? what demographic is he losing? biden was never winning over trump voters. they are the most loyal voting block in american presidential history.

there are a lot of people who think black people staying home cost hillary the election. don't you think this increases turnout in that community?

that being said, i still wouldn't love the pick. biden may not last a first term and we need a more qualified and experienced vp candidate. this is not the ideal time to pander to a demographic.

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i get your thinking behind this, but humor me.

what person that would have come out to vote for biden, will instead decide to stay home or vote for trump because he chose abrams? what demographic is he losing? biden was never winning over trump voters. they are the most loyal voting block in american presidential history.

there are a lot of people who think black people staying home cost hillary the election. don't you think this increases turnout in that community?

that being said, i still wouldn't love the pick. biden may not last a first term and we need a more qualified and experienced vp candidate. this is not the ideal time to pander to a demographic.

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White people are not gonna sign up for anything that involves an overweight black women being a heart beat away from being president.

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BD is more blunt than I was going to be, but the gist of his comment is the reason. There are whites in the flyover states and ne mid west who are tired of trump. Whether they are tired of him enough to vote dem, idk, but idk that if she’s the one heartbeat away from becoming president they will hold their nose and vote trump. In fact, it might even cause otherwise indifferent voters to come out. Obama was different. He wasn’t elected by the minorities — he was elected by the folks I described above: women who watch Oprah, dr Phil, white guilt folks, etc. trust me, I live in Georgia, abrams is not as polished as you think. As things progress I anticipate Biden’s mental lapses will underscore the importance of his choice.

I’ll offer this: If she is the vp on Election Day w Biden at the head of the ticket I will do another $250 at 2:1 and pay you $500. How’s that sound ?

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i get your thinking behind this, but humor me.

what person that would have come out to vote for biden, will instead decide to stay home or vote for trump because he chose abrams? what demographic is he losing? biden was never winning over trump voters. they are the most loyal voting block in american presidential history.

there are a lot of people who think black people staying home cost hillary the election. don't you think this increases turnout in that community?

that being said, i still wouldn't love the pick. biden may not last a first term and we need a more qualified and experienced vp candidate. this is not the ideal time to pander to a demographic.

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i get your thinking behind this, but humor me.

what person that would have come out to vote for biden, will instead decide to stay home or vote for trump because he chose abrams? what demographic is he losing? biden was never winning over trump voters. they are the most loyal voting block in american presidential history.

there are a lot of people who think black people staying home cost hillary the election. don't you think this increases turnout in that community?

that being said, i still wouldn't love the pick. biden may not last a first term and we need a more qualified and experienced vp candidate. this is not the ideal time to pander to a demographic.

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White people are not gonna sign up for anything that involves an overweight black women being a heart beat away from being president.

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BD is more blunt than I was going to be, but the gist of his comment is the reason. There are whites in the flyover states and ne mid west who are tired of trump. Whether they are tired of him enough to vote dem, idk, but idk that if she’s the one heartbeat away from becoming president they will hold their nose and vote trump. In fact, it might even cause otherwise indifferent voters to come out. Obama was different. He wasn’t elected by the minorities — he was elected by the folks I described above: women who watch Oprah, dr Phil, white guilt folks, etc. trust me, I live in Georgia, abrams is not as polished as you think. As things progress I anticipate Biden’s mental lapses will underscore the importance of his choice.

I’ll offer this: If she is the vp on Election Day w Biden at the head of the ticket I will do another $250 at 2:1 and pay you $500. How’s that sound ?

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lol actually big dick’s comment resonated a little too true. i might have to agree with you guys

also white women are never.


ever.





ever.




voting for a black woman.



they wont even vote for a white woman.

Well he’s pretty fucked then because black people literally dragged Joe Biden off a ventilator after they had already called his time of death. There are no good black male candidates that I can think of.

He can forget his name and address and what city he’s in and they will show for him as long as he doesn’t forget to name a black vp.

Increased black voter turnout is all he needs to win now. Before he needed more. Not now. 10-20% increase and he’s the president even if he is wearing a depends adult diaper on the outside of his pants during the debates

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Well he’s pretty fucked then because black people literally dragged Joe Biden off a ventilator after they had already called his time of death. There are no good black male candidates that I can think of.

He can forget his name and address and what city he’s in and they will show for him as long as he doesn’t forget to name a black vp.

Increased black voter turnout is all he needs to win now. Before he needed more. Not now. 10-20% increase and he’s the president even if he is wearing a depends adult diaper on the outside of his pants during the debates

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Since Covid-19 is disproportionally affecting blacks many more times than whites, why do you think they are going to wait in line for three hours and potentially die three weeks later to vote for some 80 year old white guy? I'm a Trump guy and unless I can get an absentee ballot I sure as shit ain't waiting in line to vote. Fuck that.

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Well he’s pretty fucked then because black people literally dragged Joe Biden off a ventilator after they had already called his time of death. There are no good black male candidates that I can think of.

He can forget his name and address and what city he’s in and they will show for him as long as he doesn’t forget to name a black vp.

Increased black voter turnout is all he needs to win now. Before he needed more. Not now. 10-20% increase and he’s the president even if he is wearing a depends adult diaper on the outside of his pants during the debates

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Since Covid-19 is disproportionally affecting blacks many more times than whites, why do you think they are going to wait in line for three hours and potentially die three weeks later to vote for some 80 year old white guy? I'm a Trump guy and unless I can get an absentee ballot I sure as shit ain't waiting in line to vote. Fuck that.

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I'm guessing you didn't see those pictures of the house party from Chicago. Blacks are not taking this seriously at all.

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Since Covid-19 is disproportionally affecting blacks many more times than whites, why do you think they are going to wait in line for three hours and potentially die three weeks later to vote for some 80 year old white guy? I'm a Trump guy and unless I can get an absentee ballot I sure as shit ain't waiting in line to vote. Fuck that.

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I'm guessing you didn't see those pictures of the house party from Chicago. Blacks are not taking this seriously at all.

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There might have been one person in that party who was registered to vote.

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Since Covid-19 is disproportionally affecting blacks many more times than whites, why do you think they are going to wait in line for three hours and potentially die three weeks later to vote for some 80 year old white guy? I'm a Trump guy and unless I can get an absentee ballot I sure as shit ain't waiting in line to vote. Fuck that.

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I'm guessing you didn't see those pictures of the house party from Chicago. Blacks are not taking this seriously at all.

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That’s not true. It must be a geographical bc down south they are taking it far more serious than the whites.

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Well he’s pretty fucked then because black people literally dragged Joe Biden off a ventilator after they had already called his time of death. There are no good black male candidates that I can think of.

He can forget his name and address and what city he’s in and they will show for him as long as he doesn’t forget to name a black vp.

Increased black voter turnout is all he needs to win now. Before he needed more. Not now. 10-20% increase and he’s the president even if he is wearing a depends adult diaper on the outside of his pants during the debates

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Since Covid-19 is disproportionally affecting blacks many more times than whites, why do you think they are going to wait in line for three hours and potentially die three weeks later to vote for some 80 year old white guy? I'm a Trump guy and unless I can get an absentee ballot I sure as shit ain't waiting in line to vote. Fuck that.

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My polling place could be on fire and I could have a 50/50 chance of catching leprosy and id still wait 10 hours to get in there to cast my vote against trump.


This is why you're less of a man than me. See what I mean bud?

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Since Covid-19 is disproportionally affecting blacks many more times than whites, why do you think they are going to wait in line for three hours and potentially die three weeks later to vote for some 80 year old white guy? I'm a Trump guy and unless I can get an absentee ballot I sure as shit ain't waiting in line to vote. Fuck that.

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My polling place could be on fire and I could have a 50/50 chance of catching leprosy and id still wait 10 hours to get in there to cast my vote against trump.


This is why you're less of a man than me. See what I mean bud?

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I'm guessing you didn't see those pictures of the house party from Chicago. Blacks are not taking this seriously at all.

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That’s not true. It must be a geographical bc down south they are taking it far more serious than the whites.

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they were out celebrating cinco de mayo in atlanta like it was 1999


I'm not gonna drive down to the hood but id say its fair to assume that they are outside doing what they do.

Maybe im wrong but id bet im not

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That’s not true. It must be a geographical bc down south they are taking it far more serious than the whites.

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they were out celebrating cinco de mayo in atlanta like it was 1999


I'm not gonna drive down to the hood but id say its fair to assume that they are outside doing what they do.

Maybe im wrong but id bet im not

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I can only tell you about my experience. Had two black clients come in my office today. One 67yr bf and the other a 19 yr bm. They each wore masks and she had on gloves. It could be more of a rural thing too.

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Since Covid-19 is disproportionally affecting blacks many more times than whites, why do you think they are going to wait in line for three hours and potentially die three weeks later to vote for some 80 year old white guy? I'm a Trump guy and unless I can get an absentee ballot I sure as shit ain't waiting in line to vote. Fuck that.

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My polling place could be on fire and I could have a 50/50 chance of catching leprosy and id still wait 10 hours to get in there to cast my vote against trump.


This is why you're less of a man than me. See what I mean bud?

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You lost your Man card when you became a stay at home Dad and sent your wife our to work.

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That’s not true. It must be a geographical bc down south they are taking it far more serious than the whites.

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they were out celebrating cinco de mayo in atlanta like it was 1999


I'm not gonna drive down to the hood but id say its fair to assume that they are outside doing what they do.

Maybe im wrong but id bet im not

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Don't bother, we all know your track record with bets

These are terrible polls for Biden. Trump, when you think about the environment, DJT should be at GWB levels in 2008 economic crisis, which was around 25%. It's a dead heat in May. Of course the election is not for a few months, a lot can change. I am telling you, come August Biden is going to have to leave his basement because he will be behind. You think Biden is loopy now, wait until he emerges from isolation after a few months pushing 80 years old.

Economist/YouGov
5/3 - 5/5
1209 RV
3.3
46
42
Biden +4
CNBC
5/1 - 5/3
1489 LV
2.5
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Biden +3

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These are terrible polls for Biden. Trump, when you think about the environment, DJT should be at GWB levels in 2008 economic crisis, which was around 25%. It's a dead heat in May. Of course the election is not for a few months, a lot can change. I am telling you, come August Biden is going to have to leave his basement because he will be behind. You think Biden is loopy now, wait until he emerges from isolation after a few months pushing 80 years old.

Economist/YouGov
5/3 - 5/5
1209 RV
3.3
46
42
Biden +4
CNBC
5/1 - 5/3
1489 LV
2.5
47
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Biden +3

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He’s behind while he just pumped out checks for $2500 to every single mother with 3 kids everywhere. He going to keep doing that for the next 6 months? That money will be gone in a month. If so, he’s golden most likely. I’m guessing his party isn’t going to be about that.

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These are terrible polls for Biden. Trump, when you think about the environment, DJT should be at GWB levels in 2008 economic crisis, which was around 25%. It's a dead heat in May. Of course the election is not for a few months, a lot can change. I am telling you, come August Biden is going to have to leave his basement because he will be behind. You think Biden is loopy now, wait until he emerges from isolation after a few months pushing 80 years old.

Economist/YouGov
5/3 - 5/5
1209 RV
3.3
46
42
Biden +4
CNBC
5/1 - 5/3
1489 LV
2.5
47
44
Biden +3

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He’s behind while he just pumped out checks for $2500 to every angle mother with 3 kids everywhere. He going to keep doing that for the next 6 months? That money will be gone in a month. If so, he’s golden most likely. I’m guessing his party isn’t going to be about that.

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Don’t count on that. Cares 2 will be out Friday.

GWB was trying to run a government, not a cult, so Im not sure how those metrics line up honestly.

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He’s behind while he just pumped out checks for $2500 to every angle mother with 3 kids everywhere. He going to keep doing that for the next 6 months? That money will be gone in a month. If so, he’s golden most likely. I’m guessing his party isn’t going to be about that.

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Don’t count on that. Cares 2 will be out Friday.

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Idk what you mean by don’t count on it? If he gets money directly into peoples hands frequently, he wins most likely.

So much of small business shit and unemployment misses really poor people in the rust belt. He keeps sending checks every month directly to people with no strings, he’s solid.

You needed a job and to make x about for unemployment. You needed to have a paper job, which for every waitress and bodyman working on cars and many black people Is a problem .He keeps getting money into people’s hands he will survive this.

The stock market isn’t the economy for many in the states that will decide this thing. Direct cash, yeah he’s good

None of these polls matter right now.

We are in the dead zone between the presumptive nominee being determined and the official general election. Plus we are being distracted by a bigger story than anything else in our lifetime, and it's not going away for a long time.

When Biden is the official nominee and he and Trump face off via debates, tweets, and negative campaigning, that's when we will start to see meaningful polls.

Walter Mondale led Reagan in opinion polls at one point in 1984.
Michael Dukakis led George H.W. Bush at one point in 1988.
George H.W. Bush led Bill Clinton at one point in 1992.
John Kerry led George W. Bush at one point in 2004.
Mitt Romney led Barack Obama at one point in 2012.
Hillary Clinton appeared to be crushing Trump in polls throughout the entire 2016 run-up.

'Nuff said.

People forget. Trump only has to get to 46/47 in the national polls to likely win. These polls are always oversampled with Cali and NY voters given the population. This is why the Trump internal pollsters were giddy election day 2016 while Clinton supporters were blowing up balloons.

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None of these polls matter right now.

We are in the dead zone between the presumptive nominee being determined and the official general election. Plus we are being distracted by a bigger story than anything else in our lifetime, and it's not going away for a long time.

When Biden is the official nominee and he and Trump face off via debates, tweets, and negative campaigning, that's when we will start to see meaningful polls.

Walter Mondale led Reagan in opinion polls at one point in 1984.
Michael Dukakis led George H.W. Bush at one point in 1988.
George H.W. Bush led Bill Clinton at one point in 1992.
John Kerry led George W. Bush at one point in 2004.
Mitt Romney led Barack Obama at one point in 2012.
Hillary Clinton appeared to crushing Trump in polls throughout the entire 2016 run-up.

'Nuff said.

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Somewhat kneejerk. 9-11 response has lasted nearly 20 years. This very well could be a one year event, and people will start forgetting about it once the virus subsides and a vaccine gets in place. There is very little evidence any pandemic created a psychological toll longer than a year or two. In 1918 there were nearly a million people in the US that died from the Spanish flu, it was followed by the roaring 20s. Polio, same thing in the 50s. HIV, same thing in the 80s. People are going to get over this pretty quick. May and June will be tough, then it's going to take a break and likely come back here and there but nobody is really going to give a shit at that point. Precisely why I am going to jump all over Carnival stock when it gets to 7 or 8 bucks.

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None of these polls matter right now.

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Agreed. The only unknown variable at the moment is The Lincoln Project - Republicans actively pointing out how Trump is destroying the country:

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Of course, it's only relevant because Trump is a complete moron and is giving it 100x visibility by reacting predictably.

Not enough for members of Team Retard set to go down with the ship because her emails and SJW's but Trump being way down across the board must have GOPers with remaining brain cells beginning to ask questions and looking for an out.

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None of these polls matter right now.

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Agreed. The only unknown variable at the moment is The Lincoln Project - Republicans actively pointing out how Trump is destroying the country:

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Of course, it's only relevant because Trump is a complete moron and is giving it 100x visibility by reacting predictably.

Not enough for members of Team Retard set to go down with the ship because her emails and SJW's but Trump being way down across the board must have GOPers with remaining brain cells beginning to ask questions and looking for an out.

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The Lincoln project is headed up by Bill Kristol whose company went out of business after Trump's win in 2016. He is a Trump hater who is a Neo-Con who pushed for the Iraq war. It is absolutely hilarious seeing left wingers rally around him know. Keep in mind, his think tank was primarily responsible for pushing GWB into Iraq for the last 15 years. And now, the left rallys around him. Hilarious. You can have him. He was recently fired by CNN so this shit is all he has.

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Don’t count on that. Cares 2 will be out Friday.

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Idk what you mean by don’t count on it? If he gets money directly into peoples hands frequently, he wins most likely.

So much of small business shit and unemployment misses really poor people in the rust belt. He keeps sending checks every month directly to people with no strings, he’s solid.

You needed a job and to make x about for unemployment. You needed to have a paper job, which for every waitress and bodyman working on cars and many black people Is a problem .He keeps getting money into people’s hands he will survive this.

The stock market isn’t the economy for many in the states that will decide this thing. Direct cash, yeah he’s good

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You guessed his party wasn’t going to be about it. I said don’t count on that. Pretty simple.

if anything, i think the democrats might hold up future checks because they want a national vote by mail law passed.

i don't want to see checks held up for anyone cause the next unemployment report will be at or worse than great depression levels, but on the other hand, how do you tell people to wait in line to vote during a pandemic?

how is that even workable? so no older people vote?

actually that would probably fuck over the republicans in florida so never mind.

yeah things are really shaping up for dons campaign.

 

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Idk what you mean by don’t count on it? If he gets money directly into peoples hands frequently, he wins most likely.

So much of small business shit and unemployment misses really poor people in the rust belt. He keeps sending checks every month directly to people with no strings, he’s solid.

You needed a job and to make x about for unemployment. You needed to have a paper job, which for every waitress and bodyman working on cars and many black people Is a problem .He keeps getting money into people’s hands he will survive this.

The stock market isn’t the economy for many in the states that will decide this thing. Direct cash, yeah he’s good

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You guessed his party wasn’t going to be about it. I said don’t count on that. Pretty simple.

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Originally Posted by blake

if anything, i think the democrats might hold up future checks because they want a national vote by mail law passed.

i don't want to see checks held up for anyone cause the next unemployment report will be at or worse than great depression levels, but on the other hand, how do you tell people to wait in line to vote during a pandemic?

how is that even workable? so no older people vote?

actually that would probably fuck over the republicans in florida so never mind.

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i anticipate they will far overshoot any realistic goals and submit it to the Senate who after giving it a bunch of no-way talk, will ultimately succumb to the media and president's pressure and agree to half of it and claim victory which is actually a defeat as the dems only could have hoped for half.

I'm sure that Joe Biden will listen to her and drop out of the race.

Bernie Sanders then becomes the Democratic nominee for President and beats the shit out of Trump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZUJisbXHk4

we need to hear from druff on this to actually find out of she is good looking enough to get raped




druff? what say you? she rapeable?


https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...?term=Rapeable