I have a medical condition which will be tough to treat, and it means the end of radio (for now)

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Xanax is probably the best drug ever created, IF TAKEN PROPERLY. I prefer mine with a 30 oz bloody mary and around 7 beers. This is god's honest truth. I have the .5's and the 1's. Usually I will cut a .5 in half but if I have a big golf tourney I will just take a 1 mg and wash it down with some Crown. Due to the possibility to become addicted to benzo's, there is a fear mongering that drug does not deserve. It isn't a scary drug. Almost impossible to OD on the thing. The problem comes when you start mixing benzo's with sleeping pills or other strong drugs. Alone, not a problem. With alcohol, not a problem. Unless you start taking 3 mg with heavy alcohol you'll be fine.

This whole thing sounds a lot like anxiety. While my father was dying, I had a fairly long period of time where I had a terrible time swallowing. Got to the point where I had issues eating any solid food at all. Still do, at times. It the silent killer that probably won't kill you and it's anxiety. A lot of people better than us have ended up in the ER with heart attack symptoms and the only problem was anxiety. Happened to me twice. I had the problem Druff is having. Again, due to anxiety. Would lay down and have to immediately get up because I couldn't breathe.

All this said, Druff knows what he has and it probably isn't anxiety. Maybe it is. I'd take a Xanax either way. I'd predict it helps more than he'd like to admit. Ativan is purely for faggots though. Take the Xanax.

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Pooh is god.

I have Xanax for flying internationally and MAYBE will take one after a panic attack (have about 3-4 per year), but it's the one drug I've tried that I dont really like. It's better than not being able to sleep on 10+ hour flights though.

The handful of times I took it just for fun, I would find myself almost 'blacking out' while awake and not drinking etc., like I would just snap back to consciousness during a movie or whatever.

Tread lightly with that shit.

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I agree that Xanax should only be taken when needed. ie, during times of stress or anxiety. Believe me I'm not waking up and having these things with coffee in the morning. I never take them just for shits and giggles. From reading what Druff is feeling it appears that he really does have LPR which symptoms may be causing him anxiety attacks. That's just my read. Normally a 46 year old guy wouldn't be suffering from a dibilitating condition that doesn't include a healthy amount of anxiety. Druff's eating, sleeping and exercise habits aren't those of a typical person imo. I mean two dinners a night. Who eats dinner then goes out to the mall and eats fucking hot dogs on a stick on a full stomach. That doesn't compute. Out of habit he says? Craziness.

His blood work numbers have to be something awful. Sodium must be at critical levels not to mention cholesterol. A lot of people who have had really good cholesterol their entire lives naturally have it increase to dangerous levels in mid to late 40's without the hot dogs on a stick and fried dough.

Obviously I wish the guy the best but just because he doesn't drink or smoke doesn't make it open season to just sit around and eat whatever and how much of it he pleases. I remember he used to brag that he can sleep for a couple hours, get up for a few hours then take a couple naps throughout the day and be perfectly fine. My ass. That shit catches up with you. When I was in my 20's I used to deliver pizzas and tend bar at night and go to school during the day so I had similar sleep habits as him and it sucked and took its toll eventually on my body and I was in my 20's. Going to bed at 5 and getting up at noon was not a good existence for me personally.

Just did bloodwork on Monday.

Cholesterol was 147, so Pooh's guess was way off. There was a somewhat low Vitamin D level, but actually higher than it was a year ago.

No other levels were in trouble.

My old sleep patterns are not likely the cause of this.

The overeating and weight gain were very possibly the cause of the LPR.

I took one Xanax a week ago. Felt weird for the first 45 minutes (kind of a dizzy, out-of-it, tired feeling), but then that lifted, and for the next 2 hours 45 minutes after that, I felt great. Then the effects wore off and I felt crappy again, though not as crappy as before I took the pill. I did sleep well that night, despite it being several hours after the Xanax wore off.

However, the next day, I was EXHAUSTED for the first 8 hours I was up. That feeling somewhat dissipated about 22 hours following taking the pill (6 hours into the drowsiness), and was completely gone two hours after that. But it was really unpleasant and made me not want to take Xanax again (which is probably good).

I have acquired some CBD oil. Go read about it. It's from cannabis, and has been anecdotally been claimed to help with a wide variety of health issues. I took the pure form without THC, so I got no high.

At first I felt little, other than some added tiredness (I was also very tired to start, then got a second wind, then got tired again on the CBD). Then I went to sleep about 2 hours later, and fell asleep more quickly than I had since all of this started.

Great success!

But wait... I woke up drowsy despite 9 hours of sleep (I probably needed 12-16 though), and couldn't get back to sleep. Then I took more CBD and it made me even more drowsy, yet I can't sleep.

So now I don't know what to say. I've been reading that I need to experiment with the dose, and perhaps I did too much (though I thought I didn't do all that much).

I told you to get some weed/thc ages ago.
Don't mess with the prescription drugs
exercise and eat better and you will sleep. Heavy duty shit like squats and other compound movements and i assure you that you will sleep. Leg workouts would knock anyone the fuck out if done at correct intensity

Stop drinking pepsi and other drinks that are empty calories and added caffeine

Druff, have you started exercising more, such as walking? Can’t stress enough how helpful that can be. Seriously. And you can even do it when sleepy but can’t sleep. Such as on a treadmill. Get on it, put your airbuds in, crank up an old PFA episode on your iPhone, and get your legs moving. You could even do something like this if you’re too tired to stand.



Just get yourself going at it. Because it’s something our bodies are great at doing. That and sweating were key to our long-ago ancestors being able to chase down to exhaustion large 4-legged prey animals.

if you're gonna walk walk on an incline

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Just did bloodwork on Monday.

Cholesterol was 147, so Pooh's guess was way off. There was a somewhat low Vitamin D level, but actually higher than it was a year ago.

No other levels were in trouble.

My old sleep patterns are not likely the cause of this.

The overeating and weight gain were very possibly the cause of the LPR.

I took one Xanax a week ago. Felt weird for the first 45 minutes (kind of a dizzy, out-of-it, tired feeling), but then that lifted, and for the next 2 hours 45 minutes after that, I felt great. Then the effects wore off and I felt crappy again, though not as crappy as before I took the pill. I did sleep well that night, despite it being several hours after the Xanax wore off.

However, the next day, I was EXHAUSTED for the first 8 hours I was up. That feeling somewhat dissipated about 22 hours following taking the pill (6 hours into the drowsiness), and was completely gone two hours after that. But it was really unpleasant and made me not want to take Xanax again (which is probably good).

I have acquired some CBD oil. Go read about it. It's from cannabis, and has been anecdotally been claimed to help with a wide variety of health issues. I took the pure form without THC, so I got no high.

At first I felt little, other than some added tiredness (I was also very tired to start, then got a second wind, then got tired again on the CBD). Then I went to sleep about 2 hours later, and fell asleep more quickly than I had since all of this started.

Great success!

But wait... I woke up drowsy despite 9 hours of sleep (I probably needed 12-16 though), and couldn't get back to sleep. Then I took more CBD and it made me even more drowsy, yet I can't sleep.

So now I don't know what to say. I've been reading that I need to experiment with the dose, and perhaps I did too much (though I thought I didn't do all that much).

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So you're afraid of drugs, but cbd oil is ok. This is sounding more a between the ears issue than anything.
Watch a Woody Allen film or Mel Brook's High Anxiety.
You need some weight taken off but not body weight.
And believe me do not talk to another Ear Nose and Throat specialist unless you've cut off one of your ears.

TODGE IS A MARIJUANA ADDICT

and you're a cock addict you fag

Just a great showing of homophobia by this guy

There is no known cure for Pepsi Aids

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Later fatty

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Originally Posted by limitles

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Just did bloodwork on Monday.

Cholesterol was 147, so Pooh's guess was way off. There was a somewhat low Vitamin D level, but actually higher than it was a year ago.

No other levels were in trouble.

My old sleep patterns are not likely the cause of this.

The overeating and weight gain were very possibly the cause of the LPR.

I took one Xanax a week ago. Felt weird for the first 45 minutes (kind of a dizzy, out-of-it, tired feeling), but then that lifted, and for the next 2 hours 45 minutes after that, I felt great. Then the effects wore off and I felt crappy again, though not as crappy as before I took the pill. I did sleep well that night, despite it being several hours after the Xanax wore off.

However, the next day, I was EXHAUSTED for the first 8 hours I was up. That feeling somewhat dissipated about 22 hours following taking the pill (6 hours into the drowsiness), and was completely gone two hours after that. But it was really unpleasant and made me not want to take Xanax again (which is probably good).

I have acquired some CBD oil. Go read about it. It's from cannabis, and has been anecdotally been claimed to help with a wide variety of health issues. I took the pure form without THC, so I got no high.

At first I felt little, other than some added tiredness (I was also very tired to start, then got a second wind, then got tired again on the CBD). Then I went to sleep about 2 hours later, and fell asleep more quickly than I had since all of this started.

Great success!

But wait... I woke up drowsy despite 9 hours of sleep (I probably needed 12-16 though), and couldn't get back to sleep. Then I took more CBD and it made me even more drowsy, yet I can't sleep.

So now I don't know what to say. I've been reading that I need to experiment with the dose, and perhaps I did too much (though I thought I didn't do all that much).

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So you're afraid of drugs, but cbd oil is ok. This is sounding more a between the ears issue than anything.
Watch a Woody Allen film or Mel Brook's High Anxiety.
You need some weight taken off but not body weight.
And believe me do not talk to another Ear Nose and Throat specialist unless you've cut off one of your ears.

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I find it both funny and sad how cocky Druff still is about his excellent health. The cholesterol was a guess and I'm also guessing you're on drugs to keep it low. How's the sodium levels?

100% is a between the ears issue. If it wasn't the Xanax would have had zero effect. The guy either has anxiety or is depressed or both.

But self medicating and diagnosing is def the prudent thing when one has a dibilitating illness.

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Originally Posted by limitles

So you're afraid of drugs, but cbd oil is ok. This is sounding more a between the ears issue than anything.
Watch a Woody Allen film or Mel Brook's High Anxiety.
You need some weight taken off but not body weight.
And believe me do not talk to another Ear Nose and Throat specialist unless you've cut off one of your ears.

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I find it both funny and sad how cocky Druff still is about his excellent health. The cholesterol was a guess and I'm also guessing you're on drugs to keep it low. How's the sodium levels?

100% is a between the ears issue. If it wasn't the Xanax would have had zero effect. The guy either has anxiety or is depressed or both.

But self medicating and diagnosing is def the prudent thing when one has a dibilitating illness.

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The problem with benzos are that they are useless for chronic anxiety unless you want to become addicted. Even if at low doses, it doesn't take long to get addicted. He felt like shit hours after he took the meds and foggy the next day because he was going through mild withdrawals. In terms of brain chemistry, it is a bottle of wine in a pill. I am not saying benzos dont have their place. They do. But idiot doctors will sometimes tell patients this is a long term solution . It is not.

Benzos (in the very short term. i mean two weeks max and every other day) combined with behavior therapy is a good way to go. Also, talking an hour long walk on the beach will do wonders.

Druff will never do it but there are definitely edibles that would help as well. It is just about finding the right concentration and strain so you completely avoid the paranoia that will simply make things worse.

And btw, if you are taking normal doses of xanax and not mixing it with stuff, you have more of a chance of dying from choking on the pill than from the pill itself. The only time people die from taking benzos is if they take a ridiculous amount of them or mix them with other drugs (almost always an opiate) .

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Originally Posted by limitles

So you're afraid of drugs, but cbd oil is ok. This is sounding more a between the ears issue than anything.
Watch a Woody Allen film or Mel Brook's High Anxiety.
You need some weight taken off but not body weight.
And believe me do not talk to another Ear Nose and Throat specialist unless you've cut off one of your ears.

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I find it both funny and sad how cocky Druff still is about his excellent health. The cholesterol was a guess and I'm also guessing you're on drugs to keep it low. How's the sodium levels?

100% is a between the ears issue. If it wasn't the Xanax would have had zero effect. The guy either has anxiety or is depressed or both.

But self medicating and diagnosing is def the prudent thing when one has a dibilitating illness.

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I thought the new current stance by the AMA was that there was no correlation between cholesterol levels and heart disease. Lot of obese people love to brag about their blood work yet they are obviously not healthy.

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Originally Posted by Pooh

I find it both funny and sad how cocky Druff still is about his excellent health. The cholesterol was a guess and I'm also guessing you're on drugs to keep it low. How's the sodium levels?

100% is a between the ears issue. If it wasn't the Xanax would have had zero effect. The guy either has anxiety or is depressed or both.

But self medicating and diagnosing is def the prudent thing when one has a dibilitating illness.

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I thought the new current stance by the AMA was that there was no correlation between cholesterol levels and heart disease. Lot of obese people love to brag about their blood work yet they are obviously not healthy.

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I don’t think so. The new thinking is that dietary cholesterol intake is not anywhere as strongly correlated with blood syrum cholesteral as nutritionists had been harping about since the ‘60s (or possibly earlier), and which was applified by the FDA (with behind the scenes encouragement by the other-than-cholesterol-heavy food industry participants).

#TheFoodPyramidIsFraudulent

If you're not worried about being unproductive and just focusing on being comfortable/not in pain why not just put a little THC in your system and see if helps?

I promise you won't turn into Micon.

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Originally Posted by snake_in_the_ass

I thought the new current stance by the AMA was that there was no correlation between cholesterol levels and heart disease. Lot of obese people love to brag about their blood work yet they are obviously not healthy.

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I don’t think so. The new thinking is that dietary cholesterol intake is not anywhere as strongly correlated with blood syrum cholesteral as nutritionists had been harping about since the ‘60s (or possibly earlier), and which was applified by the FDA (with behind the scenes encouragement by the other-than-cholesterol-heavy food industry participants).

#TheFoodPyramidIsFraudulent

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It is pretty easy. Stay away from all added sugar and fruit juice ,go easy on the bread, and take a walk for an hour a day. You will then most likely be thin. Some peoples genetics wont allow it, but this is such a small minority.

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Originally Posted by Pooh

I find it both funny and sad how cocky Druff still is about his excellent health. The cholesterol was a guess and I'm also guessing you're on drugs to keep it low. How's the sodium levels?

100% is a between the ears issue. If it wasn't the Xanax would have had zero effect. The guy either has anxiety or is depressed or both.

But self medicating and diagnosing is def the prudent thing when one has a dibilitating illness.

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The problem with benzos are that they are useless for chronic anxiety unless you want to become addicted. Even if at low doses, it doesn't take long to get addicted. He felt like shit hours after he took the meds and foggy the next day because he was going through mild withdrawals. In terms of brain chemistry, it is a bottle of wine in a pill. I am not saying benzos dont have their place. They do. But idiot doctors will sometimes tell patients this is a long term solution . It is not.

Benzos (in the very short term. i mean two weeks max and every other day) combined with behavior therapy is a good way to go. Also, talking an hour long walk on the beach will do wonders.

Druff will never do it but there are definitely edibles that would help as well. It is just about finding the right concentration and strain so you completely avoid the paranoia that will simply make things worse.

And btw, if you are taking normal doses of xanax and not mixing it with stuff, you have more of a chance of dying from choking on the pill than from the pill itself. The only time people die from taking benzos is if they take a ridiculous amount of them or mix them with other drugs (almost always an opiate) .

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So true about benzos and pretty much everything above. Taking them once in a blue moon for something like flying is fine but daily ongoing use will compound issue.

CBD oil works wonders for some health problems. But pisses me off when people talk about it working for anxiety because there is very little empirical evidence there.

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Originally Posted by limitles

So you're afraid of drugs, but cbd oil is ok. This is sounding more a between the ears issue than anything.
Watch a Woody Allen film or Mel Brook's High Anxiety.
You need some weight taken off but not body weight.
And believe me do not talk to another Ear Nose and Throat specialist unless you've cut off one of your ears.

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I find it both funny and sad how cocky Druff still is about his excellent health. The cholesterol was a guess and I'm also guessing you're on drugs to keep it low. How's the sodium levels?

100% is a between the ears issue. If it wasn't the Xanax would have had zero effect. The guy either has anxiety or is depressed or both.

But self medicating and diagnosing is def the prudent thing when one has a dibilitating illness.

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I have been to several doctors. Idiots on the forum are just assuming I am self diagnosing/medicating. You also need to take charge of your own health situation and not just blindly do what doctors tell you, because they basically see you for 15 minutes, take a guess, and walk out.

It is mostly agreed what I have, but treating it is the hard part.

I have not taken any cholesterol meds in my life. Cholesterol levels are mostly hereditary. Many people refuse to admit that because they like feeling in control of their health. Sodium levels have never been a problem for me, though blood pressure is moderately high (also mostly hereditary, btw).

I am not being cocky about anything. I wish I didn't eat so much this year, which possibly caused the chain reaction of issues I'm having now.

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If you're not worried about being unproductive and just focusing on being comfortable/not in pain why not just put a little THC in your system and see if helps?

I promise you won't turn into Micon.

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THC will make my situation worse.

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The problem with benzos are that they are useless for chronic anxiety unless you want to become addicted. Even if at low doses, it doesn't take long to get addicted. He felt like shit hours after he took the meds and foggy the next day because he was going through mild withdrawals. In terms of brain chemistry, it is a bottle of wine in a pill. I am not saying benzos dont have their place. They do. But idiot doctors will sometimes tell patients this is a long term solution . It is not.

Benzos (in the very short term. i mean two weeks max and every other day) combined with behavior therapy is a good way to go. Also, talking an hour long walk on the beach will do wonders.

Druff will never do it but there are definitely edibles that would help as well. It is just about finding the right concentration and strain so you completely avoid the paranoia that will simply make things worse.

And btw, if you are taking normal doses of xanax and not mixing it with stuff, you have more of a chance of dying from choking on the pill than from the pill itself. The only time people die from taking benzos is if they take a ridiculous amount of them or mix them with other drugs (almost always an opiate) .

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So true about benzos and pretty much everything above. Taking them once in a blue moon for something like flying is fine but daily ongoing use will compound issue.

CBD oil works wonders for some health problems. But pisses me off when people talk about it working for anxiety because there is very little empirical evidence there.

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MumblesBadly: Anecdotes are NOT equivalent to double-blind peer reviewed *and* independently republicated research


Druff - could you please make it such that when we block someone we also don't have to see their awful reps? TIA Pal.