Active Shooter, Parkland, FL High School

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Originally Posted by sonatine

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Originally Posted by devidee

Good thing the FBI didn't investigate him.

I mean, you know, what could they do!

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I dont get this joke but I'm pretty sure you're trying too hard.

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Welp, if anyone would know...

Honestly every time I hear AR in one of these shootings I'm just like, that motherfucker lacks initiative.

ARs are pure garbage. They were trash in Vietnam and they are still trash now.

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Originally Posted by verminaard

Your time is coming. Give it a couple decades.

Anyways, back to the point of Canada. Canada seems to be on a similar trajectory as the US, albeit a generation or two behind, as far as the people representing the dominant monoculture (Caucasian Christians of mainly English heritage) being demographically phased out. If Canada simultaneously pushes the PC narrative that this monoculture is oppressive and racists and needs to be destroyed, I expect the same fissions and divides to pop up in Canada as here.

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This is true, however we have the advantage of being able to see how it is fucking up the country next door. Canadians by nature are a bit more reserved and thoughtful versus arrogant and tribal. I can't see us going full on tribal politics like it is in the States. Various candidates have tried and to date none have been successful. Doug Ford is running for the Ontario Conservatives and he is the closest we have of the tear it all down, only I can fix it style comedian.

Trudeau slipped into power after our conservative government had power too long. Always good to switch it up after a few terms. He is going full hog on identity politics, equality of outcome bullshit, along with white privilege, native right tears, etc. The backlash is already starting. Our Universities are out of control just like your colleges. Guys like Jordan Peterson are having an amazing impact on voicing the displeasure of the majority. I think we will nip in the bud.

We have the additional advantage that the older white boomer racists are dying off fast enough and our youth are very multicultural.

We are a kinder, gentler nation and most here are proudly Canadian and more importantly non-American so when we see Americans acting like idiots (any vacation property world wide, we are proud not to be associated)

We won't be following along.

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Originally Posted by hongkonger

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Originally Posted by devidee

And when 85-90% of AR owners don't turn in their guns or pay the fine?

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The police go in to confiscate the gun and possibly arrest the (former) owner.

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That would probably triple the amount of gun violence in their country, a lot of it with police involved. I thought you were against police shooting people?

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Originally Posted by sonatine

The US leader of a white nationalist militia says Florida school shooting suspect Nikolas Cruz is a member of his group and participated in paramilitary drills.

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All the LULZ...

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Originally Posted by Deal

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Originally Posted by verminaard

Your time is coming. Give it a couple decades.

Anyways, back to the point of Canada. Canada seems to be on a similar trajectory as the US, albeit a generation or two behind, as far as the people representing the dominant monoculture (Caucasian Christians of mainly English heritage) being demographically phased out. If Canada simultaneously pushes the PC narrative that this monoculture is oppressive and racists and needs to be destroyed, I expect the same fissions and divides to pop up in Canada as here.

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This is true, however we have the advantage of being able to see how it is fucking up the country next door. Canadians by nature are a bit more reserved and thoughtful versus arrogant and tribal. I can't see us going full on tribal politics like it is in the States. Various candidates have tried and to date none have been successful. Doug Ford is running for the Ontario Conservatives and he is the closest we have of the tear it all down, only I can fix it style comedian.

Trudeau slipped into power after our conservative government had power too long. Always good to switch it up after a few terms. He is going full hog on identity politics, equality of outcome bullshit, along with white privilege, native right tears, etc. The backlash is already starting. Our Universities are out of control just like your colleges. Guys like Jordan Peterson are having an amazing impact on voicing the displeasure of the majority. I think we will nip in the bud.

We have the additional advantage that the older white boomer racists are dying off fast enough and our youth are very multicultural.

We are a kinder, gentler nation and most here are proudly Canadian and more importantly non-American so when we see Americans acting like idiots (any vacation property world wide, we are proud not to be associated)

We won't be following along.

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You're also fundamentally better educated, have a strong and defined national identity, and have exactly zero effective incursions into your political infrastructure from organized ultra-conservative Christian power blocks.

Didn’t the White House take white supremacist groups off terror watch groups?

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Originally Posted by devidee

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Can you remember when objective reality mattered to you, or is that a symptom of your psychotic break?

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Originally Posted by duped_samaritan

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That's not the shooter, you fucking idiot.

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Originally Posted by DirtyB

Can you remember when objective reality mattered to you, or is that a symptom of your psychotic break?

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Bro, I read every issue of Newsweek.

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Originally Posted by sonatine

Honestly every time I hear AR in one of these shootings I'm just like, that motherfucker lacks initiative.

ARs are pure garbage. They were trash in Vietnam and they are still trash now.

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Except in Vietnam they were ASSAULT RIFLES.

The AR we have in the states is not a assault rifle and not much different than the zillions of other semi auto rifles out , or at close range, not much different in destructive power as semi auto hand guns.

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Originally Posted by Suicide King

Didn’t the White House take white supremacist groups off terror watch groups?

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not exactly a response to your question but...

politicizing the terrorist designation is not in anyones best interests, unless you want to see BLM and Antifa on that list as well because thats exactly how Sessions will roll if hes forced to blur the lines for his Nazi pals.

just being a white supremacist and shooting guns in the woods isnt terrorism.

it should get you on an FBI list or three but terrorism it is not.

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Originally Posted by sonatine

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Originally Posted by Deal

This is true, however we have the advantage of being able to see how it is fucking up the country next door. Canadians by nature are a bit more reserved and thoughtful versus arrogant and tribal. I can't see us going full on tribal politics like it is in the States. Various candidates have tried and to date none have been successful. Doug Ford is running for the Ontario Conservatives and he is the closest we have of the tear it all down, only I can fix it style comedian.

Trudeau slipped into power after our conservative government had power too long. Always good to switch it up after a few terms. He is going full hog on identity politics, equality of outcome bullshit, along with white privilege, native right tears, etc. The backlash is already starting. Our Universities are out of control just like your colleges. Guys like Jordan Peterson are having an amazing impact on voicing the displeasure of the majority. I think we will nip in the bud.

We have the additional advantage that the older white boomer racists are dying off fast enough and our youth are very multicultural.

We are a kinder, gentler nation and most here are proudly Canadian and more importantly non-American so when we see Americans acting like idiots (any vacation property world wide, we are proud not to be associated)

We won't be following along.

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You're also fundamentally better educated, have a strong and defined national identity, and have exactly zero effective incursions into your political infrastructure from organized ultra-conservative Christian power blocks.

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In fairness, ultra-conservative Christianity didn't really incur into the political infrastructure, it kind of has always been here. I mean, the first pilgrims were basically Christian fundamentalists who left England because their fringe ideas weren't being tolerated there. Our biggest homegrown religion is Mormonism.

I am not even saying none of the criticisms of the US and the right wing Christian base are invalid. I am just saying, regardless once it became so cool to hate on America and so much effort has been put into destroying our monoculture, then it really isn't surprising things have gotten so divisive. There is literally nothing to bring us together anymore. It is all about how we are all different and should celebrate our differences, and whatever made up the monoculture before was evil and racist. Even if another 9-11 happened here, I feel like half the people in this country would be secretly cheering and trying to spin it to blame the other side.

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Originally Posted by verminaard

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Originally Posted by sonatine

You're also fundamentally better educated, have a strong and defined national identity, and have exactly zero effective incursions into your political infrastructure from organized ultra-conservative Christian power blocks.

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In fairness, ultra-conservative Christianity didn't really incur into the political infrastructure, it kind of has always been here. I mean, the first pilgrims were basically Christian fundamentalists who left England because their fringe ideas weren't being tolerated there. Our biggest homegrown religion is Mormonism.

I am not even saying none of the criticisms of the US and the right wing Christian base are invalid. I am just saying, regardless once it became so cool to hate on America and so much effort has been put into destroying our monoculture, then it really isn't surprising things have gotten so divisive. There is literally nothing to bring us together anymore. It is all about how we are all different and should celebrate our differences, and whatever made up the monoculture before was evil and racist. Even if another 9-11 happened here, I feel like half the people in this country would be secretly cheering and trying to spin it to blame the other side.

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I mean I wasnt there so I cant say, but at some point 'family values' became 'fuck yeah the apocolypse will solve all of you heathens so lets get this show on the road', and that strain of Christianity is what has been most effective in politicizing its agenda, to the point where it's not politically viable for a Christian to be left of Michele Bachmann.

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Originally Posted by sonatine

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Originally Posted by Suicide King

Didn’t the White House take white supremacist groups off terror watch groups?

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not exactly a response to your question but...

politicizing the terrorist designation is not in anyones best interests, unless you want to see BLM and Antifa on that list as well because thats exactly how Sessions will roll if hes forced to blur the lines for his Nazi pals.

just being a white supremacist and shooting guns in the woods isnt terrorism.

it should get you on an FBI list or three but terrorism it is not.

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I think groups like the SPLC and ADL are given way too much influence to control the dialogue and being WAY too liberal with their accusations of alt-right and white supremacy, to no ones benefit.

Listen I got no toe

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Originally Posted by igotnotoe

Listen I got no toe

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Thoughts and prayers for this mans missing toe.

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Originally Posted by devidee

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Originally Posted by hongkonger

The police go in to confiscate the gun and possibly arrest the (former) owner.

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10 million guns.

You think the police have the resources to do this? What happens when the gun owners don't simply hand them over?

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It would be a long slow process. No time like the present to get started.