I don't want to kick OSA while he's down, but it's a legit horrific fold. I would open jam. As played I would call. Basically:Quote:
Originally Posted by RealTalk
Can anyone who plays tournaments tell me if this is a standard fold with 13bb?Quote:
Originally Posted by OSA
Open jam > raise/call >>>>>>>>>> open fold >>> raise/fold
Dude you don't need a 95/95 vpip/pfr in the cutoff with under 50 bigs.Quote:
Originally Posted by OSAStealing blinds obv. Wasnt going to play, unless I flopped monster, which I did and got coolered. That's how I see itmQuote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Im shocked that OSA is a big fish
agree with all this and if you are EVER folding to a shove you should open much smallerQuote:
Originally Posted by PLOLI don't want to kick OSA while he's down, but it's a legit horrific fold. I would open jam. As played I would call. Basically:Quote:
Originally Posted by RealTalk
Open jam > raise/call >>>>>>>>>> open fold >>> raise/fold
2-2.2bb
I thought everyone is opening with 2-2.2x these days, especially when short.
But that aside, yeah, terrible fold unless you know the BB is a huge nit who is only doing that with a super premium hand.
I'm probably not open jamming that, though, because you're only being called by better, and simply taking down 1650 worth of blinds/antes isn't really what you're going for here.
By opening, you're looking like you're stealing, and it's much more likely someone will shove over you with worse or a racing hand.
Not saying open-shoving is horrible, but I'm not doing it here with 7800. If I have 6k, then yeah, I'm open shoving.
I'd rather not play AJo postflop with 10 or so blindsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
and if you're getting called a lot of hands you're flipping with, and some hands you crush and I want to double up so I can win the tournament
Yeah, Druff your age is showing a bit on this one. Jamming is unexploitable. Just put the whole thing in and see how it feelsQuote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFMLI'd rather not play AJo postflop with 10 or so blindsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
and you're getting called but a lot of hands you're flipping with, and I want to double up so I can win the tournament
As I said, the shoving isn't horrible, but I wouldn't do it in this spot. I would rather invite dominated hands in, and double-up that way (either pre or post). Yes, you open yourself up to a tough decision if you get called pre and then miss the flop, but you can either give up at that point and concede 1300 or whatever you raised pre, or go for a smallish c-bet, or even a shove, depending upon the board makeup.Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFMLI'd rather not play AJo postflop with 10 or so blindsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
and if you're getting called a lot of hands you're flipping with, and some hands you crush and I want to double up so I can win the tournament
I just feel you're getting folds a fair amount of time from everyone remaining anyway, and if a double-up is what you're going for, you're probably better off with a raise/call line.
I feel the shove is going to run into either racing-or-dominated if called, or just taking the blinds if not called. AJ in late position here is the type of hand which is too good to be thrilled with just taking the blinds, and not good enough to be ahead when a shove is called.
But what do I know, as I seem to miss cashing by 0-3% of the field in everything I play these days.
I can see how folding is bad. However, this guy was a nit and him shoving with a weaker ace was not a possibility in my head and I didnt want to best case flip for all the chips, at that point. I already did so with 7s and figured I had at least another orbit
OSA can you summarize who had a piece of You?
First postQuote:
Originally Posted by simpdog
Really surprised with Borgata's customer service and overall appeal. For a casino thats supposedly the best in AC and charges at least 50% more on hotel rates, I shouldn't be waiting 10-15 everytime I go to a sandwich shop, imo.
Im at Harrah's now, where there's hair in the sinks and loud housekeepers talking to each other in the hallway, but at least im not paying up the nose for it.
AJO 13bb in late position is a standard get it in spot. No wonder you couldn't even sell half your package
And if your gonna open, bitch please you CAN NOT be folding. With a stack that shallow you can't exactly be handing out free chips
How did a thread about OSA turn into an expose about how bad Druff is at poker?
He's not bad at poker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deal
Maybe NL tournaments but not poker.
Hands that have an advantage over you:
JJ
KK
AA
AQ
AK
Hands that a LP nit is going to put you all in with, giving you 46% against a pot where you stand to lose 6300 or gain 6300+9375:
Any pair from TT to 22 realistically, any suited ace, and probably a ragged ace as well given that you just stacked off with 23s an hour ago.
I get that no one is staking you because they expect you to cash but this is not advanced theory here, this is just common sense.
BAHAHAHAHAHA...fucking typical caesars fucking fail...why the fuck am I not shocked...Quote:
Originally Posted by OSAReally surprised with Borgata's customer service and overall appeal. For a casino thats supposedly the best in AC and charges at least 50% more on hotel rates, I shouldn't be waiting 10-15 everytime I go to a sandwich shop, imo.
Im at Harrah's now, where there's hair in the sinks and loud housekeepers talking to each other in the hallway, but at least im not paying up the nose for it.
Okay. I get it. It was a bad play. However, there is something to be said about risking your tournament life with AJ off. I didnt want to face hands like 10K KQ any pairs and risk it all pre with that. Based on the table I thought I would find a better spotQuote:
Originally Posted by sonatine