Time to get on the TRUMP train

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Originally Posted by BCR

Man, I have never found politics more tiresome than present. You can’t sit down anywhere and not be bombarded by it. My liberal friends expect me to be as incensed every day as they are, and who has the time or energy for that? My ambivalence irritates them.

My Trump friends are always looking for validation that I don’t think they are idiots, when in reality, I’ve thought almost all of them were idiots for as long as I’ve known them. They’re simply idiots I find redeeming qualities in. Many of them voted democrat for the longest time. I still thought they were idiots then. My opinion of whether they are a dumbass or not was never ideological.

This whole Trump thing has brought so much shit better left unsaid bubbling to the surface, and it’s hard to avoid the conversations because it’s so ever present. I’m to the point I long for the end of the Trump presidency not so much for what he may screw up, but just because I’m sick of hearing about it.

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Must be nice to be so much better than your friends at life.

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Originally Posted by BCR

This whole Trump thing has brought so much shit better left unsaid bubbling to the surface

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I cant even begin to :this this enough.

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Originally Posted by sonatine

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Originally Posted by BCR

This whole Trump thing has brought so much shit better left unsaid bubbling to the surface

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I cant even begin to :this this enough.

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WHAT A HERO, lotta things needed to be said

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Originally Posted by thesidedish

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Originally Posted by sonatine

I cant even begin to :this this enough.

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WHAT A HERO, lotta things needed to be said

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….like "ford is a lying manipulative pos, only a fake smart cuck like shitsbadly and shitdonger would believe this"

That bitch crawling out of the woodwork to yell rape 30+ years after the event is a textbook smear campaign.


But if it helps to keep a religious, homophobic freak away from the highest court in the land, then this bitch is a fucking hero in my eyes.

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Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud

That bitch crawling out of the woodwork to yell rape 30+ years after the event is a textbook smear campaign.


But if it helps to keep a religious, homophobic freak away from the highest court in the land, then this bitch is a fucking hero in my eyes.

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see this is a take I can respect. but when fagthonger calls me a retard for saying its fake, hes exposing himself as not even being a real person, just an easily manipulated drone

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Originally Posted by BCR

Man, I have never found politics more tiresome than present. You can’t sit down anywhere and not be bombarded by it. My liberal friends expect me to be as incensed every day as they are, and who has the time or energy for that? My ambivalence irritates them.

My Trump friends are always looking for validation that I don’t think they are idiots, when in reality, I’ve thought almost all of them were idiots for as long as I’ve known them. They’re simply idiots I find redeeming qualities in. Many of them voted democrat for the longest time. I still thought they were idiots then. My opinion of whether they are a dumbass or not was never ideological.

This whole Trump thing has brought so much shit better left unsaid bubbling to the surface, and it’s hard to avoid the conversations because it’s so ever present. I’m to the point I long for the end of the Trump presidency not so much for what he may screw up, but just because I’m sick of hearing about it.

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Right, cause our political process will deliver our best and brightest in the next election.

Like some simple god fearing preacher from the South is gonna get elected in reaction to scandal.

Those days are over. The decline is documented. I’ll find a chart if need be.

The British monarchy has better approval ratings and looks to win the last longer bet.

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Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud

That bitch crawling out of the woodwork to yell rape 30+ years after the event is a textbook smear campaign.


But if it helps to keep a religious, homophobic freak away from the highest court in the land, then this bitch is a fucking hero in my eyes.

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maybe. or maybe it totally happened as she described and she was quietly getting on with her life until she saw him being considered for a post that would allow her rapist to mold the future of this countries judicial infrastructure, and decided that outweighed the scrutiny / scathing negative attention her accusations would bring.

given that he belonged to a frat literally so notorious for sexual assault that even the fucking president of it had charges brought against him and that the republicans literally rushed to find 67 women who have been in the same room as him at some point to do damage control before the charges even went public, im inclined to believe her.

going with the "afraid to fly" excuse now



….and I think its because she doesn't like being enclosed because of kavanough or something


idk bout u but my bday is not 9/20/18

also its weird to see no one considering shes another right wing plant who will conveniently explode at just the right time to cover both the left wing and the media with tar and feathers.

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Originally Posted by sonatine

also its weird to see no one considering shes another right wing plant who will conveniently explode at just the right time to cover both the left wing and the media with tar and feathers.

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This. But not for the reason you believe.

Yeah, everybody would love to see Donald Trump vs Hillary Clinton again...in a steel cage...a fight to the death.


https://pdxpipeline.com/wp-content/u...ry-Clinton.jpg

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Yeah, everybody would love to see Donald Trump vs Hillary Clinton again...in a steel cage...a fight to the death.


https://pdxpipeline.com/wp-content/u...ry-Clinton.jpg

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id prefer if someone quoting from a koran simply lowered it slowly into a lake.

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Originally Posted by sonatine

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Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud

That bitch crawling out of the woodwork to yell rape 30+ years after the event is a textbook smear campaign.


But if it helps to keep a religious, homophobic freak away from the highest court in the land, then this bitch is a fucking hero in my eyes.

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maybe. or maybe it totally happened as she described and she was quietly getting on with her life until she saw him being considered for a post that would allow her rapist to mold the future of this countries judicial infrastructure, and decided that outweighed the scrutiny / scathing negative attention her accusations would bring.

given that he belonged to a frat literally so notorious for sexual assault that even the fucking president of it had charges brought against him and that the republicans literally rushed to find 67 women who have been in the same room as him at some point to do damage control before the charges even went public, im inclined to believe her.

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Nah. This is all political. Which is fine. This is how the game is played and the Republicans are certainly not above such tactics. But let’s not pretend this is something more than it is.

quick reminder that while we ponder the nuances of whether or not a raped woman should stfu and let her rapist get appointed to a life long court appointment in the single judicial machine capable of changing the fabric of this nation, trump is now openly suggesting we invade venezuela.


because it has a brutal dictatorship.


that puts down rebellion and dissent.


from people suffering from our sanctions.






oh also they have the worlds largest untapped oil supply, there's that.

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Originally Posted by sonatine

quick reminder that while we ponder the nuances of whether or not a raped woman should stfu and let her rapist get appointed to a life long court appointment in the single judicial machine capable of changing the fabric of this nation, trump is now openly suggesting we invade venezuela.


because it has a brutal dictatorship.


that puts down rebellion and dissent.


from people suffering from our sanctions.






oh also they have the worlds largest untapped oil supply, there's that.

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I had a waiter from Venezuela last week, guy was definitely GOD and knew his shit, he stuck around and talked politics quite a bit without checking on other tables. I said "what do u think of US invading?" his response was a dramatic "IIIIIIII WISH"

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Originally Posted by BCR

Man, I have never found politics more tiresome than present. You can’t sit down anywhere and not be bombarded by it. My liberal friends expect me to be as incensed every day as they are, and who has the time or energy for that? My ambivalence irritates them.

My Trump friends are always looking for validation that I don’t think they are idiots, when in reality, I’ve thought almost all of them were idiots for as long as I’ve known them. They’re simply idiots I find redeeming qualities in. Many of them voted democrat for the longest time. I still thought they were idiots then. My opinion of whether they are a dumbass or not was never ideological.

This whole Trump thing has brought so much shit better left unsaid bubbling to the surface, and it’s hard to avoid the conversations because it’s so ever present. I’m to the point I long for the end of the Trump presidency not so much for what he may screw up, but just because I’m sick of hearing about it.

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Right, cause our political process will deliver our best and brightest in the next election.

Like some simple god fearing preacher from the South is gonna get elected in reaction to scandal.

Those days are over. The decline is documented. I’ll find a chart if need be.

The British monarchy has better approval ratings and looks to win the last longer bet.

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Man, I don’t even care who wins next. The Dems have not a single person with an ounce of charisma that I see. Maybe it’s because I live in the rust belt, and you have all these people who were never engaged in any real way, but I feel like I am having political conversations with people I’ve known for decades, and never talked politics with, now almost forcing it upon me. I made my post because I saw a buddy earlier this morning. Big Browns fan. For 40 years. I naturally broke into Baker Mayfield talk, and how good he looked, and it turned into kneeling during the anthem shit and how he won’t watch.

Listen, there’s no reason to defend not watching the NFL, it’s garbage. But because Trump tweeted some shit? You could always talk sports. It’s like your dad being pissed at you growing up. If all else failed, and he was pissed at you and anything out of your mouth was going to get your ass in deep shit, you could still talk sports. It was my safe space. Now they took away my safe space and fuck them all for that. BLM, Trump...

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Originally Posted by sonatine

I cant even begin to :this this enough.

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WHAT A HERO, lotta things needed to be said

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:this

Fuuuuuckkkkk

Hahaha


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZuayQFD51w

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Originally Posted by sonatine

quick reminder that while we ponder the nuances of whether or not a raped woman should stfu and let her rapist get appointed to a life long court appointment in the single judicial machine capable of changing the fabric of this nation

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There is no raped woman and certainly no rapist.

Classic ploy of totalitarianists. Spread a lie so outrageous that the intent is no longer to convince or persuade, the goal is to shame and humiliate.

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quick reminder that while we ponder the nuances of whether or not a raped woman should stfu and let her rapist get appointed to a life long court appointment in the single judicial machine capable of changing the fabric of this nation

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There is no raped woman and certainly no rapist.

Classic ploy of totalitarianists. Spread a lie so outrageous that the intent is no longer to convince or persuade, the goal is to shame and humiliate.

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sexual assault pretty serious accusation. has to be investigated even if this guy was a mall cop. Al Frankin is out and he never copped a feel.

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There is no raped woman and certainly no rapist.

Classic ploy of totalitarianists. Spread a lie so outrageous that the intent is no longer to convince or persuade, the goal is to shame and humiliate.

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sexual assault pretty serious accusation. has to be investigated even if this guy was a mall cop. Al Frankin is out and he never copped a feel.

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Per the accuser there was no rape, therefore no rapist.

And Al Franken copped many a feel, do you forget already?

Politics makes for strange memory function.

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Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts

There is no raped woman and certainly no rapist.

Classic ploy of totalitarianists. Spread a lie so outrageous that the intent is no longer to convince or persuade, the goal is to shame and humiliate.

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sexual assault pretty serious accusation. has to be investigated even if this guy was a mall cop. Al Frankin is out and he never copped a feel.

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It isn't double standards. Both cases were political hit jobs. The Democrats sacrificing Franken to the mob was not a virtuous move, it was a cowardly one. I think most non ideologues lost a lot of respect for the Democratic Party when they did that.

Lets keep some things in perspective. Donald Trump is a disaster of a president who is submarining the Republican Party, but the Democrats are so inept and spineless and cowardly they can barely make any political capital from this, and at this point Trump may even be re-elected. The current state of affairs is a referendum on the Democratic Party as much as anything.

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Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts

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Originally Posted by limitles

sexual assault pretty serious accusation. has to be investigated even if this guy was a mall cop. Al Frankin is out and he never copped a feel.

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Per the accuser there was no rape, therefore no rapist.

And Al Franken copped many a feel, do you forget already?

Politics makes for strange memory function.

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To be clear Kavanaugh is not accused of rape. No rape, no raper. He is accused of sexual assault.
Al Frankin resigned, the right thing to do, for posing in a picture. He did not cop a feel.
If you're referring to the allegation where he took liberties while acting, in plain site of a cast, that allegation was
never followed up

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Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts

Per the accuser there was no rape, therefore no rapist.

And Al Franken copped many a feel, do you forget already?

Politics makes for strange memory function.

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To be clear Kavanaugh is not accused of rape. No rape, no raper. He is accused of sexual assault.
Al Frankin resigned, the right thing to do, for posing in a picture. He did not cop a feel.
If you're referring to the allegation where he took liberties while acting, in plain site of a cast, that allegation was
never followed up

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Franken has PhD in copping feels Les.

Leeann Tweeden - The allegations: Tweeden, a radio host, wrote in an essay published on the website for KABC radio in Los Angeles that Franken groped her and kissed her without her consent in 2006 when he was working as a comedian. Tweeden said Franken scripted a kiss into the show. She said that Franken insisted on rehearsing the kiss, and when she refused, he allegedly “put his hand on the back of my head, mashed his lips against mine and aggressively stuck his tongue in my mouth.”

She also alleged that Franken grabbed her breasts while she slept on the flight home. She shared a picture that appears to show the alleged incident.

Lindsay Menz - The allegations: Menz told CNN that Franken grabbed her behind during a photo op at the Minnesota State Fair in 2010. Franken was serving as a U.S. Senator at the time of the alleged incident. She said that she had a cordial conversation with Franken, and then her husband took a photo of the two. Menz alleged that Franken “put his hand full-fledged on my rear… It was wrapped tightly around my butt cheek.”

Stephanie Kemplin - The allegations: Kemplin, an Army veteran, told CNN in a story published on Thursday that Franken allegedly groped her in December 2003. She said she was stationed in Kuwait, and she met Franken when he toured with the USO. She said that Franken groped her right breast while the two took a photo.

Tina Dupuy - The allegations: In an essay for the Atlantic, Dupuy alleged that Franken groped her at a Media Matters party during President Barack Obama’s inauguration in 2009. “He immediately put his hand on my waist, grabbing a handful of flesh. I froze. Then he squeezed. At least twice,” Dupuy wrote. “Al Franken’s familiarity was inappropriate and unwanted. It was also quick; he knew exactly what he was doing.”

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Originally Posted by limitles

To be clear Kavanaugh is not accused of rape. No rape, no raper. He is accused of sexual assault.
Al Frankin resigned, the right thing to do, for posing in a picture. He did not cop a feel.
If you're referring to the allegation where he took liberties while acting, in plain site of a cast, that allegation was
never followed up

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Franken has PhD in copping feels Les.

Leeann Tweeden - The allegations: Tweeden, a radio host, wrote in an essay published on the website for KABC radio in Los Angeles that Franken groped her and kissed her without her consent in 2006 when he was working as a comedian. Tweeden said Franken scripted a kiss into the show. She said that Franken insisted on rehearsing the kiss, and when she refused, he allegedly “put his hand on the back of my head, mashed his lips against mine and aggressively stuck his tongue in my mouth.”

She also alleged that Franken grabbed her breasts while she slept on the flight home. She shared a picture that appears to show the alleged incident.

Lindsay Menz - The allegations: Menz told CNN that Franken grabbed her behind during a photo op at the Minnesota State Fair in 2010. Franken was serving as a U.S. Senator at the time of the alleged incident. She said that she had a cordial conversation with Franken, and then her husband took a photo of the two. Menz alleged that Franken “put his hand full-fledged on my rear… It was wrapped tightly around my butt cheek.”

Stephanie Kemplin - The allegations: Kemplin, an Army veteran, told CNN in a story published on Thursday that Franken allegedly groped her in December 2003. She said she was stationed in Kuwait, and she met Franken when he toured with the USO. She said that Franken groped her right breast while the two took a photo.

Tina Dupuy - The allegations: In an essay for the Atlantic, Dupuy alleged that Franken groped her at a Media Matters party during President Barack Obama’s inauguration in 2009. “He immediately put his hand on my waist, grabbing a handful of flesh. I froze. Then he squeezed. At least twice,” Dupuy wrote. “Al Franken’s familiarity was inappropriate and unwanted. It was also quick; he knew exactly what he was doing.”

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Re: the Tweeden story on the Kuwait flight. That photo was staged and meant to be funny, but obv. not. It was set up. Others were watching. No one said he touched her in that incident.
All the other alleged events were enough for him to resign. I don't think he was pushed out but that's beside the point.

This case against Kavanaugh is no different. A women of some repute has risked the wrath of many by coming out with her story. It must be investigated fully before this man is appointed to the Supreme court
Not saying these women are lying but it's odd that a Senator would risk everything for a squeeze on the butt while a relative of the victim takes the photo.

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Originally Posted by limitles

sexual assault pretty serious accusation. has to be investigated even if this guy was a mall cop. Al Frankin is out and he never copped a feel.

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It isn't double standards. Both cases were political hit jobs. The Democrats sacrificing Franken to the mob was not a virtuous move, it was a cowardly one. I think most non ideologues lost a lot of respect for the Democratic Party when they did that.

Lets keep some things in perspective. Donald Trump is a disaster of a president who is submarining the Republican Party, but the Democrats are so inept and spineless and cowardly they can barely make any political capital from this, and at this point Trump may even be re-elected. The current state of affairs is a referendum on the Democratic Party as much as anything.

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Agree 100%....Trump is a total putz...but my 401k loves him....and that’s who I care most about.

Amazing the economy is humming along with him in the whitehouse....just keeps proving to me that it doesn’t matter who the president is or how unqualified.

I’m not sure there has been a good president I’m lifetime.

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It isn't double standards. Both cases were political hit jobs. The Democrats sacrificing Franken to the mob was not a virtuous move, it was a cowardly one. I think most non ideologues lost a lot of respect for the Democratic Party when they did that.

Lets keep some things in perspective. Donald Trump is a disaster of a president who is submarining the Republican Party, but the Democrats are so inept and spineless and cowardly they can barely make any political capital from this, and at this point Trump may even be re-elected. The current state of affairs is a referendum on the Democratic Party as much as anything.

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Agree 100%....Trump is a total putz...but my 401k loves him....and that’s who I care most about.

Amazing the economy is humming along with him in the whitehouse....just keeps proving to me that it doesn’t matter who the president is or how unqualified.

I’m not sure there has been a good president I’m lifetime.

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the market was absolutely slaying before this as well:

https://www.investopedia.com/article...arket-2008.asp

Does that accuser really do work for a drug company called Corcept that makes an off label abortion pill?

Sounds crazy, but could be a conflict of interest and a reason to embellish what happened.

Politics is a dirty business.

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Agree 100%....Trump is a total putz...but my 401k loves him....and that’s who I care most about.

Amazing the economy is humming along with him in the whitehouse....just keeps proving to me that it doesn’t matter who the president is or how unqualified.

I’m not sure there has been a good president I’m lifetime.

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the market was absolutely slaying before this as well:

https://www.investopedia.com/article...arket-2008.asp

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Indeed....question is when to move to cash, pretty tempting to do now.

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the market was absolutely slaying before this as well:

https://www.investopedia.com/article...arket-2008.asp

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Indeed....question is when to move to cash, pretty tempting to do now.

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gotta wonder... the rest of the 'unemployment is down' iceberg is 'yeah because people now carry 2-3 fast food level jobs to cover their rent', as evidenced by how stale new home sales are.

i dont see the exploitable line there yet but its out there.

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Indeed....question is when to move to cash, pretty tempting to do now.

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gotta wonder... the rest of the 'unemployment is down' iceberg is 'yeah because people now carry 2-3 fast food level jobs to cover their rent', as evidenced by how stale new home sales are.

i dont see the exploitable line there yet but its out there.

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I try and use technical indicators to make my decisions and take the emotions out of it, but that’s easier said than done.

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Originally Posted by Texter

Does that accuser really do work for a drug company called Corcept that makes an off label abortion pill?

Sounds crazy, but could be a conflict of interest and a reason to embellish what happened.

Politics is a dirty business.

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This the website that you may have gotten that info from

As a psychiatrist she had input as to any psychological side effects of a medication.
But yeah you're onto something. Why risk death threats and future employment over
something so trivial?
You mean if Kavanaugh is confirmed abortion would soon be illegal in the U.S.?
The whole political system is corrupt. Too bad

Yee haw, well I'll be fellers

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gotta wonder... the rest of the 'unemployment is down' iceberg is 'yeah because people now carry 2-3 fast food level jobs to cover their rent', as evidenced by how stale new home sales are.

i dont see the exploitable line there yet but its out there.

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well said, Trump braggs about low unemployment stats but as you said this could be a indicator that a lot of folks need more than one job to make ends meet, especially entry level and low skilled labour. has the cost of living in the USA risen compared to average wages?

I guess there is a line were the cost of living is close to middle wages not sure were that is.... I more often will pay some one i want to have work long time a bit more than they are worth so they don't up and leave after i have spent hours getting them up to speed with our operations.

I believe there will be some disruption when trade tarif wars start and will more affect low income earners rather than middle and upper.
at some point US citizens will be hit with a shock when normally inexpensive items have become quite costly and posable lead to a les disposable society. coule be good or very bad, we will see.

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gotta wonder... the rest of the 'unemployment is down' iceberg is 'yeah because people now carry 2-3 fast food level jobs to cover their rent', as evidenced by how stale new home sales are.

i dont see the exploitable line there yet but its out there.

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I try and use technical indicators to make my decisions and take the emotions out of it, but that’s easier said than done.

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i mean, that makes you a professional in my eyes.

i lack those skills but i have quite the imagination so while the concept of grinding out a few percent profit based on hard work and research is totally out of my reach, i believe in the windfalls that come with gut reads on astounding disasters. and something tells me that now would be a good time to nail one of those reads.

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Originally Posted by sonatine

gotta wonder... the rest of the 'unemployment is down' iceberg is 'yeah because people now carry 2-3 fast food level jobs to cover their rent', as evidenced by how stale new home sales are.

i dont see the exploitable line there yet but its out there.

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well said, Trump braggs about low unemployment stats but as you said this could be a indicator that a lot of folks need more than one job to make ends meet, especially entry level and low skilled labour. has the cost of living in the USA risen compared to average wages?

I guess there is a line were the cost of living is close to middle wages not sure were that is.... I more often will pay some one i want to have work long time a bit more than they are worth so they don't up and leave after i have spent hours getting them up to speed with our operations.

I believe there will be some disruption when trade tarif wars start and will more affect low income earners rather than middle and upper.
at some point US citizens will be hit with a shock when normally inexpensive items have become quite costly and posable lead to a les disposable society. coule be good or very bad, we will see.

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much has been said about this far more eloquently than my single post could ever accomplish, but...

yes, one of the hot topics in economics circles is that people are assuming that 'unemployment is down' means that people are not just getting jobs but getting careers, and thats a hugely important distinction because one of those keeps you one check away from homelessness and one of them lands you firmly in middle-class sanctuary, with a home that you can pay off and half a years salary squirreled away to protect against circumstances unforeseen.

the reality is not only are people holding down multiple jobs just to keep a roof over their heads, but those jobs are also the most vulnerable to economic downturns (hollar china sanctions, i see you dawg) and, of course, automation.