tine thinking Bloomberg is a mortal lock to beat Trump heads up may be the worst take i’ve seen on the internet, PERIOD.
tine thinking Bloomberg is a mortal lock to beat Trump heads up may be the worst take i’ve seen on the internet, PERIOD.
don't think that's the strong suit of the over 75 demo...Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
listen i love berndawg but he's his own worst enemy sometimes. this should have been much easier for him. but he's really not reading the room like he should.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krypt
think theyre more along the lines of 'fuck it, i'm old, experienced and gonna do shit my way...don't have time to compromise with anybody...'
Very possible going into Super Tuesday we have Sanders, Pete, Klobuchar, Biden, Bloomberg, and Warren all still in and picking up their share of delegates. On March 4th, 38% of delegates will have already been awarded. This is a much higher share than previous years when fewer states voted on Super Tuesday, and states like California and Texas were near the bottom. Also, Dems award delegates proportionally, unlike the GOP where it's winner take all for every state. In this scenario I don't see how anybody gets to a majority of delegates. And under this fractured scenario it actually gives candidates even less incentive to drop out, since even if they can't get to a majority, picking up additional delegates will let them wield more power at the convention.
In fact, if the GOP awarded delegates proportionally like the Dems do, Trump would not have gotten to a majority in 2016.
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Originally Posted by Krypt
hes going to line the front row of every debate with billionaires and regardless of whatever the hosts ask him, one at a time he's going to each billionaire in turn and ask if they would ever buy a used car from trump.
roll credits.
and again i cant stress this enough 👏everyone👏loves👏bloomberg👏compared👏to👏these👏burger s
The whole appeal he has to many people is that he doesn't read the room.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatinelisten i love berndawg but he's his own worst enemy sometimes. this should have been much easier for him. but he's really not reading the room like he should.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krypt
He sticks to what he thinks is right, no matter how crazy or unpopular it is. He lucked into the fact that there's a socialist left trend among many in the Democratic Party nowadays (especially young people), so here he improbably is, at age 78 (79 at election time), somehow the frontfrunner.
But what's good about Bernie is also what's bad about Bernie. He lacks the ability to adjust, and is way too much of an idealogue.
He's going to stubbornly stick to his talking points, and will live or die with them. Even the right agrees he's authentic. But being authentic in your support for crazy ideas isn't a good thing.
He's going to get clobbered by Trump once swing voter America fully realizes the radical nature of his plans.
Also, Mayor Pete's lack of authenticity is going to catch up with him soon.
People are increasingly waking up to this, and once his narrative changes from "nice, intelligent folksy gay guy who wants to end politics as usual" to "slick, shifty politician who won't answer any tough question directly", the shine is going to wear off, much like it did for Warren.
Warren had bigger problems, because she also had a consistent trail of lies (new and old) following her around, but I think Pete's going to fade soon enough when it's generally acknowledged that he's a phony.
bernie down to $71 now. thats the lowest ive seen him in a long, long time. i really dont get this.
Can confirm Spit's been saying this for a while.Quote:
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People were expecting him to thwomp everyone in NH, and instead he squeaked by.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Take it with a grain of salt, but Nate updated his model. "No majority" now up to 33%.
BCR was first in with the culinary union issues in NevadaQuote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Mkt seems to have concerns. The timing coincides. Dive into the Flyers handed out
Druff is precisely right about Bernie not giving a fuck about the room. He’s preaching. Very appealing atm.
Can you give cliffs on why the culinary union has concerns about M4A?Quote:
Originally Posted by SanlmarBCR was first in with the culinary union issues in NevadaQuote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Mkt seems to have concerns. The timing coincides
again, this will all be academic when Bernard curb stomps everyone in Nevada and takes SC thereafter.
Since we're obviously living in a game show simulation and not a real world, we'll probably see something like this from the game-show writers this season:
Pete wins Iowa, Bernie wins NH, Klobuchar wins Nevada for shits and giggles, Biden wins SC, and then Bloomberg wins a handful of states on super tuesday. And then come convention time....
the democrats are just so bad that "other" is surging. klobuchar and Bloomberg are scoring massive "everybody is terrible so I guess I will take them" votes or polling responses. and get this, guess who is leading at predictit for VP: Nina Turner. no clue who that is
http://www.msnbc.com/11th-hour/watch...na-78597189556Quote:
Originally Posted by SPIT thisCan you give cliffs on why the culinary union has concerns about M4A?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
The guy’s name is Jon Ralston. The reporter he references I missed her name.
I haven’t dug. It’ll be there is the morning
Wow, what the fuck. I think that's Tina Turner's granddaughter.Quote:
Originally Posted by thesidedish
It's not "other" it's "no one".Quote:
Originally Posted by thesidedish
Meaning nobody will win more than 50% of the delegates, meaning they'll have to go to second or third ballots and super delegates will come into play.
Think he means Klobuchar and Bloomberg are "other" candidates. In other words, I don't know them, but everybody I know I dislike so I'll go with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by duped_samaritanIt's not "other" it's "no one".Quote:
Originally Posted by thesidedish
Meaning nobody will win more than 50% of the delegates.
Democrats have forsaken the unions and now they hear a guy who threatens a pretty good health package
It’s not like you or I. We bop from company to company and each has a different carrier. We don’t pick our carrier. We have no choice.
Unions fight for that shit. Bernie best tread lightly
The people you are talking about may not vote Bernie in the primary, but will all show up to vote Dem in the general, even if it is for a card-carrying, dead-beat, dying Socialist, who didn't pay his child support, and has never worked a day in his entire life.Quote:
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i am saying this from a place of sincerity:
for every person i know who would vote for sanders over bloomberg, i literally know 10 who would vote for bloomberg over sanders. and these are generally progressive leaning friends.
_no one_ wants to see a bunch of fuckups get their hundred thousand plus dollar .edu bills comped, least of all with tax dollars.
its a huge, huge, huge sticking point for a lot of people i know. and bernie seems totally old-person-inflexible on the subject.
beyond which, bloomberg beating trump is a mortal fucking lock. sanders aka the 78 year old who wont release his medical records even tho he just had a heart attack? i mean.... a sure thing sounds better to me.
Bloomberg isn't stealing any votes from Trump. He is the poor man's Trump. Lots more money, but a small percentage of the charisma, sense of humor, and "political outsider" anti-establishment feel that carries Trump.
The chickens are coming home to roost in the Democratic party, they are stuck between a socialist and a billionaire.
if bernard hasn’t worked a day in his life, then would it be fair to say Trump has worked negative days? Also why are you trying (and failing) to make a moralist argument re bernard vs the pussy grabber with two russian mail order brides in his catalogue? terrible post guyQuote:
Originally Posted by v12clThe people you are talking about may not vote Bernie in the primary, but will all show up to vote Dem in the general, even if it is for a card-carrying, dead-beat, dying Socialist, who didn't pay his child support, and has never worked a day in his entire life.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Bloomberg isn't stealing any votes from Trump. He is the poor man's Trump. Lots more money, but a small percentage of the charisma, sense of humor, and "political outsider" anti-establishment feel that carries Trump.
The chickens are coming home to roost in the Democratic party, they are stuck between a socialist and a billionaire.
Always Trump with you fucking simpletons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kryptif bernard hasn’t worked a day in his life, then would it be fair to say Trump has worked negative days? Also why are you trying (and failing) to make a moralist argument re bernard vs the pussy grabber with two russian mail order brides in his catalogue? terrible post guyQuote:
Originally Posted by v12cl
If you are going to come at Trump, come at him harder than some "Trump must have worked negative days" BS, the dude is clearly a workaholic and worked and talked his ass all the way to President.
Klobuchar has no chance, she has shot her load so to speak.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPIT this
If Bernie Sanders is not the Democratic nominee there will be a revolt and outright war in the Democratic party.
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you clearly didn’t pick up on the nuanced inference I was making. There has been a paradigm shift in US politics and people don’t give a fuck about anything you just stated. A reality show billionaire is President; absolutely plausible for a self-identifying socialist to be elected
Yang suspending campaign sucks a bit for NZ since there have been some murmurings of a freedom dividend here.
Him lasting longer to our election campaign or someone else taking it over would have gone a long way to us doing it as an experiment.
Bernie winning and wiping student loans might be enough to sway it happening here as well, and I'm balls deep in that nonsense.
lmfao @ Bernard not having worked a day in his life. Bernard nearly dropped dead of a heart attack in October and hasn’t missed a day on the campaign trail, DUMBASS.Quote:
Originally Posted by v12clAlways Trump with you fucking simpletons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krypt
If you are going to come at Trump, come at him harder than some "Trump must have worked negative days" BS, the dude is clearly a workaholic and worked and talked his ass all the way to President.
This is too easy. Next.
Holding political office is not a real job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kryptlmfao @ Bernard not having worked a day in his life. Bernard nearly dropped dead of a heart attack in October and hasn’t missed a day on the campaign trail, DUMBASS.Quote:
Originally Posted by v12cl
This is too easy. Next.
wtf do you do for a living?
I'm a social media influencer. Laugh if you want, but it's grueling work. Something a politician could never understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krypt
Biden, Bernie, Bloomberg, Klobuchar. There's too many Bs in this race. Hard to keep them all straight.
So in one breath you claim that Trump is/was a workaholic as candidate and now president, and in another breath you’re claiming that holding political office isn't a real job. Logical fail much???Quote:
Originally Posted by v12clHolding political office is not a real job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krypt
First, sosh media is vile. But I recognize game.
Are Bloomberg’s nerds the only worthy opponents for Trump’s Brad Parscale?
Parscale is now Campaign Mgr and he’s enjoying the spotlight and talking a lot. Is he still sharp? Cambridge Analytica and Facebook style shenanigans probably has to be tempered this time around. No one was watching 2016.
You need the electoral college last second? Few surgical strikes via keyboard. Stone killer.
He’s talking today about conversion rates for rally attendees to lever pulling voters and tracking them with an app. Now there you go. Creepy as fuck but well played.
When my kid moved to NYC she stayed with a Bloomberg IT kid in his downtown tower apt. while she looked for her own place. She described him as brilliant but too trusting. Randoms crashed on his couch enjoying the views. He was paid handsomely by Bloomberg and apparently had no regard for money.
Bloomberg has squadrons of these tattoo’d genius kids.
Bernie prolly has a framed Steve Jobs Time magazine cover from 1982.
Something to think about.
bloomberg terminal is outdated trash, but is the only game in town. With regards to “squadrons of genius kids”, really!? Bloomberg LP is not known to be some incubator of talent. An idiot I know from school got hired as a governance analyst there. Not impressed. He will be exposed in the Nevada debate next week.
LOL BOOMERS
You and I know analysts are just kids waiting for grad school. FlunkiesQuote:
Originally Posted by Krypt
I’m just free associating.
I hold low regard for Bloomberg. Boomers that age have baggage. Epstein photos and inappropriate chatter that was the norm back then. He may have been a saint. We will see
A fantastic comment from zeroh (somewhat rare, but spot on nontheless):
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Pete Butigieg is everything the world hates and loathes about America and everything every American voter should hate and loathe about American electoral system: a snarky, slimy, arrogant, opaque, elitist, gender-nebulous, pro-war. pro-1%, pro-corporate, Wall Street booty-licking pig masquerading as some sort of quasi-liberal. He is younger and more marketable edition of Hillary Clinton, only more sinister (if that is even possible), more feminine and less funny.
I have no idea how anyone could find anything appealing, innovative, useful, productive, original, or life-affirming about this character or his message. Everything about him SCREAMS "Status Quo! Status Quo" in your face. He is Aunt Helen's 60-year old yellowed and frayed plastic sofa cover of American politics: an absorbent for the stinky billionaire fart and uncontrollable bowel movement and a useless 1% asswipe.
Wait, I like the status quo
I saw him speaking while the crowd chanted “Wall Street Pete”
Not a hiccup or missed beat. No reaction. Resting pulse rate.
It’s the wrong word but all I thought of was “sociopath”.
He is every gay high school theater kid’s idol as a public speaker.
Lol, Krypt. A young gay Hillary. Only more feminine.
Jesus. That made my night. I’m dying
You have impeccable taste.